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You can afford chicken Japov? Wow, you're living the American Dream".

John

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Ha!
I was feeling a little lazy a few nights ago... So, I decided to hit the KFC drive through. I hadn't been there in many years...

$35.00 for the 8piece meal!

A whole hen is $10.00 at Walmart...

The cheap chuck roast is $7.50/lb!

I have no doubt that "SOMEBODY" is living the dream... but it sure'asfuk ain't ME!

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Food in the US has always been cheap compared to Canada, but it seems to be rising. But don't forget the bible says it will take a day's wages to buy a day's food, we are getting there. A lot of this increase in prices, especially in food, is by design by people in high places.

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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
Food in the US has always been cheap compared to Canada, but it seems to be rising. But don't forget the bible says it will take a day's wages to buy a day's food, we are getting there. A lot of this increase in prices, especially in food, is by design by people in high places.

"And don't harm the oil or the wine..."
Keep your eyes open for that wink

Lol... There's a thread for this, Everett laugh
The Bible tends to put an end to my ranting...

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Sorry, I know it is a touchy subject these days, truth being revealed usually is.

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Lol... I know THAT'S right!
I tell people all the time, "If you want religion to make you feel good about yourself and humanity, don't read the Bible."

Page one of the Bible teaches "You're Not God"... Then it's all downhill from there lol.

The ONLY good news is "You're Forgiven".

However, the Bible does have a lot to say about humility with a glad heart wink

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Wow Tony, those food prices are shocking. Did a quick survey here just to compare, as I walked out of Costco yesterday with a fully cooked chicken for $7.99 Cdn....@ U$5.90
Admittely it is a loss leader for Costco, it gets people into Costco, but it did spur me to find Walmart here is selling fresh whole chicken for $8.99 or @ U$6.65
And the closest thing I could find on our local KFC menu for $47.30 Cdn = U$35 was a meal that supposedly feeds 9 people

Chicken producers have greater marketing power in the US???? Dunno. But lobby power and pliant politicians must carry most of the blame IMO. Not good if you are on a fixed income. So rant on there my friend.

Do know that milk and cheese and such is far more expensive here...due to government dairy industry support, and alcohol, gasoline, cigarettes etc prices are more expensive here due to taxes...don't smoke, but I do drive and do enjoy the occasional glass\botttle of wine....I have taken to non alcoholic beer in a big way and that is not taxed, but gets priced as if it does. .

And thank your lumber lobby for your lumber prices. They effectively keep Canadian lumber out of your market, except for amounts allowed in under significant tarriffs...because Canada can produce things like framing lumber far more cheaply than US producers can. Our "softwood lumber dispute" goes back decades, and despite US treatment being found illegal under NAFTA and WTO tribunals, it seems the US is bowing down to lumber interests in the US and not caring they are ruled to be in the wrong.

Using a similar "dumping" argument, Boeing went up against our Bombardier because it was about to eat its lunch on narrow body fuel efficient jets....Boeing was working on its own version (the infamous Boeing 737 Max) but was not ready for market......so the US protected its own by imposing a 220% tariff on 70 some planes ordered by Delta. Led to Bombardier selling its jet program to Europe's Airbus as its A220 which has been highly successful....while the 737 Max has been grounded now for the second time...two software related fatal crashes in 2019 (grounded the plane for 2 years) and recent blown out doors (grounded the jet once again) suggest it still is not....

Meanwhile, everyone has their hands in our pockets for as much money as they can extract...just the way things are...


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Meanwhile, everyone has their hands in our pockets for as much money as they can extract...just the way things are...

That's definitely what I'm seeing...
The Bidens/Obamas/Clintons/Pelosis and any company towing their political line/agenda are getting filthy rich! (including big pharma)
Meanwhile, we're being invaded by every other country on the planet to pad the socialist voting bass...

It doesn't matter if Trump gets re-elected, America is finished!

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Well said Japov, but depressing.

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Yeah', maybe you're right JLS...
I don't get depressed enough.
I read my Bible, watch the news...
Then I just get PI$$ED!

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Reading your bible is a good thing, sure, it tells the truth of what is coming and what is coming can be depressing for those not ready, but for those that are ready, it is exciting. Even those that are non-bible readers and non-church goers are wondering what is going on in the world, it is all in the bible. I better shut up or I'll get us in trouble again.

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Everett, you will not get into trouble for quoting The Bible and acting in a kind way towards others. Only when you say that people will go to hell if they do not believe exactly what you believe do you get any flack.

Using threats tends to turn people away.

Use Couch as an example. He has a deep knowledge of The Bible, works hard to share it, but will stay out of people's way and lets it speak for itself.

And I am happy for you that you are ready and excited about "The End Times" you believe are imminent. It must give you great comfort.


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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
Reading your bible is a good thing, sure, it tells the truth of what is coming and what is coming can be depressing for those not ready, but for those that are ready, it is exciting. Even those that are non-bible readers and non-church goers are wondering what is going on in the world, it is all in the bible. I better shut up or I'll get us in trouble again.

"but for those that are ready, it is exciting..."
Right!
But, what am I supposed to do with all that excitement if the majority of the world thinks I'm NUTZ, and blames people like me for hindering "social progress"? From my perspective, 90% of the planet has rejected common sense!


Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Everett, you will not get into trouble for quoting The Bible and acting in a kind way towards others. Only when you say that people will go to hell if they do not believe exactly what you believe do you get any flack.

Using threats tends to turn people away.

Biblical prophecy is always 100% correct. The Bible isn't a threat... it's a promise.

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Biblical prophesy maybe, but people not so much. And I agree the Bible does not threaten...but people do.

The "End is Near" has been prophesied ad naseum over the past 2000 years....starting with Simon Bar Gorea in 66AD...who saw the Jewish uprising against Rome as the start of end times.

Since then, people have regularly predicted it. Took this from Wikipedia...Hal Lindsay BTW said it would happen in 1988

At the very end of the list you will find that the Jewish Torah (First 5 Books of The Bible) predicts it to come in 2239 and be complate in 3239..but no one can be certain



66–70 Simon bar Giora, Jewish Essenes The Jewish Essene sect of ascetics saw the Jewish uprising against the Romans in 66–70 in Judea as the final end-time battle which would bring about the arrival of the Messiah. By the authority of Simon, coins were minted declaring the redemption of Israel. [14]
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365 Hilary of Poitiers This early French bishop announced the end of the world would happen during this year. [16]
375–400 Martin of Tours This French bishop stated that the world would end before 400 AD, writing, "There is no doubt that the Antichrist has already been born. Firmly established already in his early years, he will, after reaching maturity, achieve supreme power." [17]
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27 May 482 Hydatius This bishop of Aquae Flaviae (modern Chaves, Portugal) wrote his chronicle (c. 469, i.e. after the violent collapse of civil order in Hispania) his firm belief that humanity was living in the end times, marching towards its certain doom on this day, when Jesus would come back and the world would end. [19]
500 Hippolytus of Rome, Sextus Julius Africanus, Irenaeus All three predicted Jesus would return in this year, with one of the predictions being based on the dimensions of Noah's Ark. Another prediction was based on the dimensions of the tabernacle built by the Israelites under Moses. [20]
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6 Apr 793 Beatus of Liébana This Spanish monk prophesied the Second Coming of Christ and the end of the world on that day in front of a large crowd of people. [20]
800 Sextus Julius Africanus This Christian historian revised his prediction from the year 500 to 800. [22]
799–806 Gregory of Tours This French bishop calculated the end would occur between 799 and 806. [23]
847 Thiota This Christian declared in 847 that the world would end that year, though later confessed the prediction was fraudulent and was publicly flogged. [24]
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992–995 Various Christians Good Friday coincided with the Feast of the Annunciation; this had long been believed to be the event that would bring forth the Antichrist, and thus the end-times, within three years. [26]
1000 Pope Sylvester II and others According to several sources, various Christian clerics predicted this date as the Millennium, including Pope Sylvester II. As a result, riots are said to have occurred in Europe and pilgrims headed east to Jerusalem. Other historians, however, have disputed that any of these events ever took place. [27]
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1033 Various Christians Following the failure of the prediction for 1 January 1000, some theorists proposed that the end would occur 1000 years after Jesus' death, instead of his birth. [20]
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1200–1260 Joachim of Fiore This Italian mystic determined that the Millennium would begin between 1200 and 1260. [31]
1284 Pope Innocent III Pope Innocent III (died 1216) predicted that the world would end 666 years after the rise of Islam in 618. [17]
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1335 Joachimites After his 1260 prediction failed, the followers of Joachim of Fiore rescheduled the end of the world to 1290 and then again to 1335. [32]
1346–1351 Various Europeans The Black Death spreading across Europe was interpreted by many as the sign of the end of times. [33]
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1368–1370 Jean de Roquetaillade This French alchemist predicted the Antichrist was to come in 1366 and the Millennium would begin either in 1368 or 1370. [35]
1378 Arnaldus de Villa Nova This Joachite wrote that the Antichrist was to come during this year. [36]
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1504 Sandro Botticelli This painter believed he was living during the Tribulation, and that the Millennium would begin in three and a half years from 1500. He wrote into his painting The Mystical Nativity that the Devil was loose and would soon be chained. [37][38]
1 Feb 1524 London astrologers A group of astrologers in London predicted the world would end by a flood starting in London, based on calculations made the previous June. Twenty thousand Londoners left their homes and headed for higher ground in anticipation. [39][40]
20 Feb 1524 Johannes Stöffler A planetary alignment in Pisces was seen by this astrologer as a sign of the Millennium. [39]
1525 Thomas Müntzer 1525 would mark the beginning of the Millennium, according to this Anabaptist. His followers were killed by cannon fire in an uneven battle with government troops. He died under torture and was beheaded. [30][41]
27 May 1528 Hans Hut This German Anabaptist predicted the end would occur on this date. [42]
1528 Johannes Stöffler A revised date from Stöffler after his 1524 prediction failed to come true. [43]
19 Oct 1533 Michael Stifel This mathematician calculated that Judgement Day would begin at 8:00 am on this date. [44]
1533 Melchior Hoffman This Anabaptist prophet predicted Christ's Second Coming to take place this year in Strasbourg. He claimed that 144,000 people would be saved, while the rest of the world would be consumed by fire. [45]
5 Apr 1534 Jan Matthys During the Münster rebellion, this Anabaptist leader declared that the apocalypse would take place on this date. When the day came he led a failed attack against Franz von Waldeck and was decapitated. [46]
1555 Pierre d'Ailly Around 1400, this French theologian wrote that 6845 years of human history had already passed, and the end of the world would be in the 7000th year. [47]
1585 Michael Servetus In his book The Restoration of Christianity, the Spanish born reformer claimed that the Devil's reign in this world had started in 325 AD, at the Council of Nicea, and would last for 1260 years, thus ending in 1585. [48]
1588 Regiomontanus This mathematician and astronomer predicted the end of the world during this year. [49]
1600 Martin Luther Luther, a German priest and professor of theology known for starting the Protestant Reformation, predicted the end of the world would occur no later than 1600. [50]
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1 Feb 1624 London astrologers The same astrologers who predicted the deluge of 1 February 1524 recalculated the date to 100 years later after their first prophecy failed. [39]
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1648 Sabbatai Zevi Using the kabbalah proclaimed that the Messiah would come during that year. Later claimed to be the Messiah in 1666-7 [49]
1651 Unknown author from Lübeck, Germany The apocalypse maps tell of an Antichrist, the rise of Islam and other events following Judgement Day that was predicted to occur in 1651. [51]
1654 Helisaeus Roeslin This physician made a prediction that the world would end this year based on a nova that occurred in 1572. [52]
1656 Christopher Columbus In his Book of Prophecies (1501), Columbus predicted that the world would end during this year. [53]
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1655–1657 Fifth Monarchists This group of radical Christians predicted that the final apocalyptic battle and the destruction of the Antichrist were to take place between 1655 and 1657. [55]
1658 Christopher Columbus Columbus claimed that the world was created in 5343 BCE, and would last 7000 years. Assuming no year zero, that means the end would come in 1658. [56]
1660 Joseph Mede Mede claimed that the Antichrist had appeared in 456, and the end would come in 1660. [57]
1666 Sabbatai Zevi Following his failed prediction of 1648, Zevi recalculated the end of the Earth for this year. [49]
Fifth Monarchists The presence of 666 in the date, the death of 100,000 Londoners to bubonic plague, and the Great Fire of London led to superstitious fears of the end of the world from some Christians. [58]
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1673 William Aspinwall This Fifth Monarchist claimed the Millennium would begin by this year. [60]
1688 John Napier This mathematician calculated the end of the world would be this year based on calculations from the Book of Revelation. [61]
1689 Pierre Jurieu This prophet predicted that Judgement Day would occur this year. [62]
1694 John Mason This Anglican priest predicted the Millennium would begin by this year. [63]
Johann Heinrich Alsted This Calvinist minister predicted the Millennium would begin by this year. [64]
Johann Jacob Zimmermann Believed that Jesus would return and the world would end this year. [65]
1697 Cotton Mather This Puritan minister predicted the world would end this year. After the prediction failed, he revised the date of the end two more times. [46]
1700 John Napier Following his 1688 prediction, Napier recalculated his end of the world prediction to 1700 in A Plaine Discovery, a book published in 1593. [66]
Henry Archer In his 1642 work, The Personall Reigne of Christ Upon Earth, Archer predicted the Second Coming of Jesus would occur in approximately this year. [67]
18th century
Date Claimant(s) Description Ref.
1705–1708 Camisards Camisard prophets predicted the end of the world would occur in either 1705, 1706 or 1708. [62]
1716 Cotton Mather Revised prediction from Mather after his 1697 prediction failed to come true. [46]
5 Apr 1719 Jacob Bernoulli This mathematician predicted a comet would destroy the Earth on this date. [52]
1700–1734 Nicholas of Cusa This cardinal predicted the end would occur between 1700 and 1734. [68]
16 Oct 1736 William Whiston This theologian predicted a comet colliding with the Earth this year. [69]
1736 Cotton Mather Mather's third and final prediction for the end of the world. [46]
1757 Emanuel Swedenborg Swedenborg, a former Lutheran, claimed that the Last Judgement occurred in the spiritual world this year. [70][71]
20 May 1773 Various Parisians Based on a misunderstanding of a talk given by astronomer Jérôme Lalande Parisians were convinced that a comet would destroy the world on this date. [72]
19 May 1780 Connecticut General Assembly members, New Englanders The sky turning dark during the day was interpreted as a sign of the end times. The primary cause of the event is believed to have been a combination of smoke from forest fires, a thick fog, and cloud cover. [73]
1789 Pierre d'Ailly The year 1789 would bring the coming of the Antichrist, according to this 14th-century cardinal. [74]
1792, 1794 Shakers The Shakers, a Christian sect founded in 18th century England, predicted the world would end in 1792 and then in 1794. [46]
19 Nov 1795 Nathaniel Brassey Halhed While campaigning for Richard Brothers' release, Halhed proclaimed that the world would end on this date. [75]
1793–1795 Richard Brothers This retired sailor stated the Millennium would begin between 1793 and 1795. He was eventually committed to an insane asylum. [68]
19th century
Date Claimant(s) Description Ref.
1805 Christopher Love This Presbyterian minister predicted the destruction of the world by earthquake in 1805, followed by an age of everlasting peace when God would be known by all. [76]
1806 Mary Bateman In Leeds, England, in 1806 a hen began laying eggs on which the phrase "Christ is coming" was written. Eventually it was discovered to be a hoax. The owner, Mary Bateman, had written on the eggs in a corrosive ink so as to etch the eggs, and reinserted the eggs back into the hen's oviduct. [77][78]
19 Oct 1814 Joanna Southcott This 64-year-old self-described prophet claimed she was pregnant with the Christ child, and that he would be born on October 19, 1814. She died later that year having not delivered a child, and an autopsy proved she had not been pregnant. [79]
1836 Johann Albrecht Bengel In the 1730s this Lutheran clergyman proclaimed that Judgment Day would come in 1836, with the pope as the anti-Christ and the Freemasons representing the "false prophet" of Revelations. [80]
1836 John Wesley Wesley, the founder of the Methodist Church, foresaw the Millennium beginning this year. He wrote that Revelation 12:14 referred to 1058 to 1836, "when Christ should come". [77][81]
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31 Dec 1843 Millerites Although it was not officially endorsed by their leadership, many Millerites expected the Second Coming to occur on April 28 or at the end of 1843. [82]
1843 Harriet Livermore The first of two years this preacher predicted the world would end. [83]
21 Mar 1844 William Miller Miller, a Baptist preacher, predicted Christ would return on this date. [84]
22 Oct 1844 Millerites After Christ did not return on 21 March 1844, the Millerites then revised William Miller's prediction to 22 October that year, claiming to have miscalculated Scripture. The realization that the predictions were incorrect resulted in the Great Disappointment. [84]
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7 Aug 1847 George Rapp Rapp, the founder of the Harmony Society, preached that Jesus would return in his lifetime, even as he lay dying on August 7, 1847. [86]
1847 Harriet Livermore The second prediction of the end of the world from this preacher. [83]
1862 John Cumming This Scottish clergyman stated it was 6000 years since creation in 1862, and that the world would end. [87]
Joseph Morris Originally an English convert to Mormonism, Morris had revelations to gather his followers and wait for the Second Coming, through successive prophesied days. [88]
1863 John Wroe The founder of the Christian Israelite Church calculated that the Millennium would begin this year. [79]
1873–1874 Jonas Wendell Wendell, along with other Adventist preachers, predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur in 1873 or 1874. In 1870, Wendell published his views in the booklet entitled The Present Truth, or Meat in Due Season concluding that the Second Advent was sure to occur in 1873. After the prediction did not bear out, Nelson H. Bardour reinterpreted the prediction holding that Jesus had in fact returned in 1874 but in an invisible form. [89]
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1881 Mother Shipton (attrib.) This 15th-century prophet was quoted as saying "The world to an end shall come, In eighteen hundred and eighty one" in a book published in 1862. In 1873 it was revealed to be a forgery; however, this did not stop some people from expecting the end. [92]
1890 Wovoka The founder of the Ghost Dance movement predicted in 1889 that the Millennium would occur in 1890. [93]
20th century
Date Claimant(s) Description Ref.
1901 Catholic Apostolic Church This church, founded in 1831, claimed that Jesus would return by the time the last of its 12 founding members died. The last member died in 1901. [94]
1901 Annie Keeler Dr. Keeler, a prominent doctor in Danbury, CT, predicted that, due to the alignment of the planets, the world would come to an end and "complete the planetary cycle as it was in the days of Noah"
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1910 Camille Flammarion Flammarion predicted that the 1910 appearance of Halley's Comet "would impregnate that atmosphere and possibly snuff out all life on the planet", but not the planet itself. "Comet pills" were sold to protect against toxic gases. [85]
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1892–1911 Charles Piazzi Smyth This pyramidologist concluded from his research on the dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Giza that the Second Coming would occur somewhere between 1892 and 1911. [98]
1914 Charles Taze Russell Russell, who founded the Bible Student movement, said "...the battle of the great day of God Almighty... The date of the close of that 'battle' is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874." [99]
1915 John Chilembwe This Baptist educator and leader of a rebellion in the British protectorate of Nyasaland predicted the Millennium would begin this year. [93]
1918 International Bible Students Association "Christendom shall be cut off and glorification of the Little Flock (The Church) in the Spring of 1918 A.D." [100]
1920 International Bible Students Association In 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would "destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions." Church members would "perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy." The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing. [101]
13 Feb 1925 Margaret Rowen According to this Seventh-Day Adventist, the angel Gabriel appeared before her in a vision and told her that the world would end at midnight on this date. [102]
1926 Spencer Perceval This British MP, who was one of the 12 apostles of the Catholic Apostolic Church, believed that the world was growing nearer to the Apocalypse due to what he viewed as the rampant immorality of the times in Europe. [103]
1934 Walter Marks Marks, an Australian MP, told the House of Representatives that Armageddon would occur in 1934 and culminate with the Royal Navy bringing Christ's chosen people to Jerusalem. [104]
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Sep 1935 Wilbur Glenn Voliva This evangelist announced that "the world is going to go 'puff' and disappear" in September 1935. [106]
1936 Herbert W. Armstrong The founder of the Worldwide Church of God told members of his church that the rapture was to take place in 1936, and that only they would be saved. After the prophecy failed, he changed the date three more times. [107]
1941 Jehovah's Witnesses A prediction of the end from the Jehovah's Witnesses, a group which branched from the Bible Student movement. [108]
1943 Herbert W. Armstrong The first of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 prediction failed to come true. [107]
1947 John Ballou Newbrough The author of Oahspe: A New Bible predicted the destruction of all nations and the beginning of post-apocalyptic anarchy in this year. [92]
21 Dec 1954 Dorothy Martin The world was to be destroyed by terrible flooding on this date, claimed this leader of a UFO cult called Brotherhood of the Seven Rays. The fallout of the group after the prediction failed was the basis for the 1956 book When Prophecy Fails. [109]
22 Apr 1959 Florence Houteff The leader of the Branch Davidians predicted the apocalypse foretold in the Book of Revelation would proceed on this date. The failure of the prophecy led to the split of the sect into several subsects, the most prominent led by Benjamin and Lois Roden. [110]
1951–1960 Johann Gottfried Bischoff On December 25, 1951, Bischoff stated the Second Coming would occur before he died. He died on July 6, 1960. [111]
4 Feb 1962 Jeane Dixon, various Indian astrologers Dixon predicted a planetary alignment on this date was to bring destruction to the world. Mass prayer meetings were held in India. [112]
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20 Aug 1967 George Van Tassel This day would mark the beginning of the third woe of the Apocalypse, during which the southeastern US would be destroyed by a Soviet nuclear attack, according to this UFO prophet, who claimed to have channeled an alien named Ashtar. [114]
1967 Jim Jones The founder of the People's Temple stated he had visions that a nuclear holocaust was to take place in 1967. [115]
9 Aug 1969 George Williams The founder of the Church of the Firstborn predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this date. [116]
1969 Charles Manson Manson predicted that Helter skelter, an apocalyptic race war, would occur in 1969. [117]
1972 Herbert W. Armstrong The second of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 and 1943 predictions failed to come true. [107]
Jan 1974 David Berg Berg, the leader of Children of God, predicted that there would be a colossal doomsday event heralded by Comet Kohoutek. [118]
1975 Herbert W. Armstrong Armstrong's fourth and final prediction. [107]
Jehovah's Witnesses From 1966 on, Jehovah's Witnesses published articles which stated that the fall of 1975 would be 6000 years since man's creation, and suggested that Armageddon could be finished by then. [119]
1976 Brahma Kumaris The Brahma Kumaris founder, Lekhraj Kirpalani, has made a number of predictions of a global Armageddon which the religion believes it will inspire, internally calling it "Destruction". During Destruction, Brahma Kumari leaders teach the world will be purified, all of the rest of humanity killed by nuclear or civil wars and natural disasters which will include the sinking of all other continents except India. [120]
1977 John Wroe The founder of the Christian Israelite Church predicted this year for Armageddon to occur. [92]
William M. Branham This Christian minister predicted the rapture would occur no later than 1977. [121]
17 Feb 1979 Roch Thériault Thériault, who called himself Moïse (Moses), led a commune in the wilderness of eastern Quebec in the late seventies. Formerly a Seventh-Day Adventist, he told his group they would form the center of a new society during God's 1000-year reign following Armageddon. [122]
1980 Leland Jensen In 1978 Jensen predicted that there would be a nuclear holocaust in 1980, followed by two decades of conflict, culminating in God's Kingdom being established on Earth. [123]
1981 Chuck Smith The founder of Calvary Chapel predicted the generation of 1948 would be the last generation and that the world would end by 1981 at the latest. Smith identified that he "could be wrong" but continued to say in the same sentence that his prediction was "a deep conviction in my heart, and all my plans are predicated upon that belief." [124]
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10 Mar 1982 John Gribbin, Stephen Plagemann Gribbin, an astrophysicist, co-authored the 1974 book The Jupiter Effect which predicted that combined gravitational forces of aligned planets would create a number of catastrophes, including a great earthquake on the San Andreas Fault. [97]
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21 Jun 1982 Benjamin Creme Creme took out an ad in the Los Angeles Times stating that the Second Coming would occur in June 1982 with the Maitreya announcing it on worldwide television. [127]
1982 Pat Robertson In late 1976 on his 700 Club TV programme, Robertson predicted that the end of the world would come in this year. [128]
1985 Lester Sumrall This minister predicted the end in this year, even writing a book about it entitled I Predict 1985. [129]
29 Apr 1986 Leland Jensen Jensen predicted that Halley's Comet would be pulled into Earth's orbit on this date, causing widespread destruction. [130]
17 Aug 1987 José Argüelles Argüelles claimed that Armageddon would take place unless 144,000 people gathered in certain places across the world in order to "resonate in harmony" on this date. [131]
1988 Hal Lindsey Lindsey believed that Jesus would return within 40 years, a "biblical generation", of the founding of Israel in 1948. [132]
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3 Oct 1988 Edgar C. Whisenant Whisenant predicted in his book 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Could Be in 1988 that the rapture of the Christian Church would occur between September 11 and 13, 1988. After his September predictions failed to come true, Whisenant revised his prediction date to October 3. [133]
30 Sep 1989 Edgar C. Whisenant After all his 1988 predictions failed to come true, Whisenant revised his prediction date to this day. [133]
23 Apr 1990 Elizabeth Clare Prophet Prophet predicted a nuclear war would start on this date, with the world ending 12 years later, leading her followers to stockpile a shelter with supplies and weapons. Later, after Prophet's prediction did not come to pass, she was diagnosed with epilepsy and Alzheimer's disease. [134]
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9 Sep 1991 Menachem Mendel Schneerson This Russian-born rabbi called for the Messiah to come by the start of the Jewish New Year. [136]
1991 Louis Farrakhan The leader of the Nation of Islam declared that the Gulf War would be the "War of Armageddon which is the final war." [137]
28 Sep 1992 Rollen Stewart This born-again Christian predicted the rapture would take place on this date. [138]
28 Oct 1992 Lee Jang Rim Lee, the leader of the Dami Mission church, predicted the rapture would occur on this date. [139]
1993 David Berg Berg predicted the tribulation would start in 1989 and that the Second Coming would take place in 1993. [140]
2 May 1994 Neal Chase This Bahá'í sect leader predicted that New York City would be destroyed by a nuclear bomb on March 23, 1994, and the Battle of Armageddon would take place 40 days later. [141]
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2 Oct 1994 Harold Camping Camping predicted the rapture would occur on 6 September 1994. When it failed to occur he revised the date to the 29th of September and then to the 2nd October. [142]
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31 Mar 1995 Harold Camping Camping's fourth predicted date for the end. This would be Camping's last prediction until 2011. [142]
26 Mar 1997 Marshall Applewhite Applewhite, leader of the Heaven's Gate cult, claimed that a spacecraft was trailing the Comet Hale-Bopp and argued that suicide was "the only way to evacuate this Earth" so that the cult members' souls could board the supposed craft and be taken to another "level of existence above human". Applewhite and 38 of his followers committed mass suicide. [144]
23 Oct 1997 James Ussher This 17th-century Irish archbishop predicted this date to be 6000 years since creation, and therefore the end of the world. [145]
31 Mar 1998 Hon-Ming Chen Chen, leader of the Taiwanese cult Chen Tao – "The True Way" – claimed that God would come to Earth in a flying saucer at 10:00 am on this date. [146]
Jul 1999 Nostradamus A quatrain by Nostradamus which stated the "King of Terror" would come from the sky in "1999 and seven months" was frequently interpreted as a prediction of doomsday in July 1999. [147]
18 Aug 1999 The Amazing Criswell The predicted date of the end of the world, according to this psychic well known for predictions. [148]
11 Sep 1999 Philip Berg Berg, dean of the worldwide Kabbalah Centre, stated that on this date "a ball of fire will descend, destroying almost all of mankind, all vegetation, all forms of life." [149]
1999 Charles Berlitz This linguist predicted the end would occur in this year. He did not predict how it would occur, stating that it might involve nuclear devastation, asteroid impact, pole shift or other Earth changes. [150]
Hon-Ming Chen The leader of the cult Chen Tao preached that a nuclear holocaust would destroy Europe and Asia in 1999. [151]
James Gordon Lindsay This preacher predicted the great tribulation would begin before 2000. [152]
Timothy Dwight IV This 19th century president of Yale University predicted Christ's Millennium would start by 2000. [153]
Nazim Al-Haqqani This Sufi Muslim sheikh predicted that the Last Judgment would occur before 2000. [154]
1 Jan 2000 Movement for the Restoration of the Ten Commandments of God An estimated 778 followers of this Ugandan religious movement perished in a fire and a series of poisonings and killings that were either a group suicide or an orchestrated mass murder by group leaders after their predictions of the apocalypse failed to come about. [155]
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Jerry Falwell Falwell predicted God making judgement on the world on this date. [157]
Tim LaHaye, Jerry B. Jenkins These Christian authors stated that the Y2K bug would trigger global economic chaos, which the Antichrist would use to rise to power. As the date approached, however, they changed their minds. [158]
Various During and before 1999 there was widespread predictions of a Y2K computer bug that would crash many computers on midnight of January 1, 2000 and cause malfunctions leading to major catastrophes worldwide, and that society would cease to function. [97]
6 Apr 2000 James Harmston The leader of the True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this date. [159]
5 May 2000 Nuwaubian Nation This movement claimed that the planetary lineup would cause a "star holocaust", pulling the planets toward the Sun on this date. [160]
2000 Peter Olivi This 13th-century theologian wrote that the Antichrist would come to power between 1300 and 1340, and the Last Judgement would take place around 2000. [161]
Ruth Montgomery This self-described Christian psychic predicted the Earth's axis would shift and the Antichrist would reveal himself in this year. [162]
Edgar Cayce This psychic predicted the Second Coming would occur this year. [163]
Sun Myung Moon The founder of the Unification Church predicted the Kingdom of Heaven would be established in this year. [164]
Ed Dobson This pastor predicted the end would occur in his book The End: Why Jesus Could Return by A.D. 2000. [165]
Lester Sumrall This minister predicted the end in his book I Predict 2000. [166]
Jonathan Edwards This 18th-century preacher predicted that Christ's thousand-year reign would begin in this year. [167]
21st century
Date Claimant(s) Description Ref.
2001 Tynnetta Muhammad This columnist for the Nation of Islam predicted the end would occur in this year. [168]
27 May 2003 Nancy Lieder Lieder proposed the Nibiru cataclysm, which was predicted to occur on this date. She claimed aliens in the Zeta Reticuli star system told her a planet would enter the solar system and cause a pole shift on Earth that would destroy most of humanity. [169]
30 Oct–Nov 29 2003 Aum Shinrikyo This Japanese cult, which carried out the Tokyo subway sarin attack in 1995, predicted the world would be destroyed by a nuclear war between 30 October and 29 November 2003. [170]
12 Sep 2006 House of Yahweh Yisrayl Hawkins, pastor and overseer of The House of Yahweh, predicted in his February 2006 newsletter that a nuclear war would begin on September 12, 2006. [171]
29 Apr 2007 Pat Robertson In his 1990 book The New Millennium, Robertson suggests this date as the day of Earth's destruction. [172]
May 2008 Pyotr Kuznetsov Followers of Kuznetsov, 31 adults and 4 children (one 18 months old), went into a cave in Russia in November 2007 thinking they would be safe from an apocalypse occurring in the spring. Kuzentsov did not join them, was later committed and attempted suicide when some had left the cave in the spring. By the time all the followers had left the cave in the spring, two adults had died. [173]
2010 Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn This magical organization, which existed from 1887 to 1903, predicted the world would end during this year. [174]
21 May 2011 Harold Camping After several unsuccessful predictions in 1994 and 1995, Camping predicted that the rapture and devastating earthquakes would occur on 21 May 2011, with God taking approximately 3% of the world's population into Heaven, and that the end of the world would occur five months later on October 21. [175]
29 Sep 2011 Ronald Weinland Weinland, the founder of the Church of God Preparing for the Kingdom of God, stated Jesus would return on this date. After his prophecy failed to come true he changed the date to 27 May 2012. [176]
21 Oct 2011 Harold Camping When his original prediction failed to come about, Camping revised his prediction and said that on May 21, a "Spiritual Judgment" took place and that both the physical rapture and the end of the world would occur on 21 October 2011. [175]
Aug–Oct 2011 Various There were fears amongst the public that Comet Elenin travelling almost directly between Earth and the Sun would cause disturbances to the Earth's crust, causing massive earthquakes and tidal waves. Others predicted that Elenin would collide with Earth on October 16. Scientists tried to calm fears by stating that none of these events were possible. [177]
27 May 2012 Ronald Weinland Weinland's revised date for the return of Jesus following the failure of his 2011 prediction. [178]
30 Jun 2012 José Luis de Jesús This cult leader predicted that the world's governments and economies would fail on this date, and that he and his followers would undergo a transformation that would allow them to fly and walk through walls. [179]
21 Dec 2012 Various The 2012 phenomenon predicted the world would end at the end of the 13th b'ak'tun. The Earth would be destroyed by an asteroid, Nibiru, or some other interplanetary object; an alien invasion; or a supernova. Mayanist scholars stated that no extant classic Maya accounts forecasted impending doom, and that the idea that the Long Count calendar ends in 2012 misrepresented Maya history and culture. Scientists from NASA, along with expert archaeologists, stated that none of those events were possible. [180]
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23 Aug 2013 Grigori Rasputin Rasputin, a Russian mystic who died in 1916, prophesied a storm would take place on this date where fire would destroy most life on land and Jesus would come back to Earth to comfort those in distress. [182]
Apr 2014 – Sep 2015 John Hagee, Mark Biltz The so-called blood moon prophecy, first predicted by Mark Biltz in 2008 and then by John Hagee in 2014. These Christian ministers claim that the tetrad in 2014 and 2015 may represent the beginning of the Messianic end times. Some Mormons in Utah combined the September 2015 blood moon with other signs, causing a large increase in sales of preppers survival supplies. [183]
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7 October 2015 eBible Fellowship This online religious group predicted that world would be destroyed 1600 days after “Judgment Day”, which they believed had happened on May 21, 2011, per Harold Camping's prediction. [185]
23 Sep–15 Oct 2017 David Meade Conspiracy theorist David Meade predicted that Nibiru would become visible in the sky and would "soon" destroy the Earth. [186]
23 Apr 2018 David Meade After his 2017 prediction failed, Meade predicted the rapture would take place and that the world would end on this date. [187]
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9 Jun 2019 Ronald Weinland Weinland, who previously predicted the world would end in 2011, 2012, and then 2013, predicted in 2018 that Jesus would return on June 9, 2019. Prior to the date occurring he began to express some doubts regarding his own prediction. [189]
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2020 Jeane Dixon Dixon predicted that Armageddon would take place in 2020. She previously predicted the world would end on February 4, 1962. [191]
2021 F. Kenton Beshore In 2012 this American pastor said the rapture would occur during 2021 at the latest.

Future predictions
21st century
Date (CE) Claimant(s) Description Ref.
13 Nov 2026 Heinz von Foerster In a 1960 Science article, this scientist predicted a date for the end of humanity due to overpopulation. [192]
2026 Messiah Foundation International This spiritual organization predicts that the world will end in 2026, when an asteroid collides with Earth in accordance with Riaz Ahmed Gohar Shahi's predictions in his book The Religion of God. [193]
2028 Kent Hovind While clarifying there is no way to be certain, this Christian fundamentalist evangelist speculated in 2015 that 2028 was the "most likely" year for the rapture. [194]
22nd–23rd centuries
Date (CE) Claimant(s) Description Ref.
31 Dec 2129 Said Nursî This Sunni Muslim theologian, author of the Risale-i Nur and founder of the Nur movement, wrote in a letter to one of his students (the 21st in the so-called Kastamonu Appendix) that by applying numerology to a hadith he had arrived at a date of 1545 for the arrival of doomsday. 1545 in the Hijri calendar would be 2122; in the Rumi calendar it would be 2129. Nursî added that this was not a definite prediction, as "nobody knows the time of doom in a strict manner". [195]
30 Sep 2239 Talmud, Orthodox Judaism According to the Talmud in mainstream Orthodox Judaism, the Messiah will come within 6000 years of the creation of Adam, and the world may be destroyed 1000 years later. This would put the beginning of the period of desolation in 2239 and the end of the period of desolation in 3239. [3]
2280 Rashad Khalifa According to this Egyptian-American biochemist's research on the Qu'ran, the world will end during that year.


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Biblical prophesy maybe, but people not so much. And I agree the Bible does not threaten...but people do.

The "End is Near" has been prophesied ad naseum over the past 2000 years....starting with Simon Bar Gorea in 66AD...who saw the Jewish uprising against Rome as the start of end times.

Since then, people have regularly predicted it. Took this from Wikipedia...Hal Lindsay BTW said it would happen in 1988

At the very end of the list you will find that the Jewish Torah (First 5 Books of The Bible) predicts it to come in 2239 and be complate in 3239..but no one can be certain

God is the Alpha and Omega. He knew how His creation was going to end even before He created it... but, did it anyway. A more impressive speculation would be, "Why?"

If you can't show me the quote from Hal Lindsey, then you're just a member of a 40y/o rumor mill... Give it up.

"Orthodox Judaism" denies that Jesus is the Messiah and deletes any reference to Him from the Pentateuch... Nuff'said.

The very first point the Bible makes is that we are God's creation.
The rest of the Bible is about men creating lesser gods for themselves despite God's promise. Yep', people are idiots...

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So the Pentateuch is not part of the Bible, or wrong?...not sure of your point. All of Judaism does not recognize Jesus....unlike Muslims who see him as an important Prophet who will return before the Day of Judgement to defeat the Antichrist...exactly as you believe.....and they also revere Mary.....

Lots of references to Hal Lindsey's 1988 prediction ...was supposed to happen 40 years after the founding of the State of Israel....so the sum of all those references is good enough for me...but the more interesting part of my post is the sheer number of predicitons that turned out wrong.


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The "Orthodox Jews" have edited their "Torah"... it's incomplete.

Islam rejects the trinity. So, Jesus is basically equal to muhammad.

Hal Lindsey has been falsely accused, read his book for yourself.

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1) Still, it sets a date....and how was the Torah edited? Seems to me that if any editing was done, it would be by those who came after Moses.

2) Actually, Muslims believe Mohammed is God's FINAL prophet before the end of times...while Jesus was one of a long line of prophets ...but very important to them.

3) I yield on your Hal Lindsey assertion...simply unimportant. The real point is the sheer number of those who had predicted the end of the world incorrectly...


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
1) Still, it sets a date....and how was the Torah edited? Seems to me that if any editing was done, it would be by those who came after Moses.

2) Actually, Muslims believe Mohammed is God's FINAL prophet before the end of times...while Jesus was one of a long line of prophets ...but very important to them.

3) I yield on your Hal Lindsey assertion...simply unimportant. The real point is the sheer number of those who had predicted the end of the world incorrectly...
A lot of wishful thinking over the years I guess, it may be wishful thinking now but I don't think so. I'm just going by what the bible says it will be like in the end time and everything is in place, there is nothing left to happen before God takes His church out of harm's way while He pours out His wrath. I'm not putting a date on it, only God knows when it will happen but we are told to be ready for when it does happen.

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Reading your bible is a good thing, sure, it tells the truth of what is coming and what is coming can be depressing for those not ready, but for those that are ready, it is exciting. Even those that are non-bible readers and non-church goers are wondering what is going on in the world, it is all in the bible. I better shut up or I'll get us in trouble again.

"but for those that are ready, it is exciting..."
Right!
But, what am I supposed to do with all that excitement if the majority of the world thinks I'm NUTZ, and blames people like me for hindering "social progress"? From my perspective, 90% of the planet has rejected common sense!


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Everett, you will not get into trouble for quoting The Bible and acting in a kind way towards others. Only when you say that people will go to hell if they do not believe exactly what you believe do you get any flack.

Using threats tends to turn people away.

Biblical prophecy is always 100% correct. The Bible isn't a threat... it's a promise.

JAPOV, Jesus said that we will be hated for His namesake, that is happening world wide and it is starting to happen even in North America, just another sign of the times.

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Reading your bible is a good thing, sure, it tells the truth of what is coming and what is coming can be depressing for those not ready, but for those that are ready, it is exciting. Even those that are non-bible readers and non-church goers are wondering what is going on in the world, it is all in the bible. I better shut up or I'll get us in trouble again.

"but for those that are ready, it is exciting..."
Right!
But, what am I supposed to do with all that excitement if the majority of the world thinks I'm NUTZ, and blames people like me for hindering "social progress"? From my perspective, 90% of the planet has rejected common sense!


Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Everett, you will not get into trouble for quoting The Bible and acting in a kind way towards others. Only when you say that people will go to hell if they do not believe exactly what you believe do you get any flack.

Using threats tends to turn people away.

Biblical prophecy is always 100% correct. The Bible isn't a threat... it's a promise.

JAPOV, Jesus said that we will be hated for His namesake, that is happening world wide and it is starting to happen even in North America, just another sign of the times.

Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit
John 14 NIV

15)“If you love me, keep my commands. 16)And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17)the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18)I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19)Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20)On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21)Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”
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I know my Spirit is in the right place... but my flesh isn't happy about it, not happy at all!

It's no wonder why the world hates prophecy, especially TV personalities who focus on "Biblical" prophecy. The Spirit of Truth tends to shame Hollywood's "post-apocalyptic" creative license wink

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Japov,

The Republican's alone could fix the border over night if they chose to simply hold off ANY vote until it was done. But they will not because they are nothing more than controlled opposition. Even those who seem to be holding them "hostage" (The small Trump coalition) are simply playing a role as a steam valve to let off pressure to keep an ACTUAL rise up from happening. They carefully use these players in this theatrical production to keep any real accounting for the Establishment Elites from happening. They push things right up to the brink, then let off a little steam by giving just enough "victory" to those they fear most (regular people) from saying once and for all "enough!" It is genius, but still evil. If these vultures simply took their % off the top but allowed society to otherwise thrive, they would be seen as benevolent heroes, even though they may be getting even more money than now. But these evil people desire fear and misery in equal parts as some large portion of their existence seems to depend on it.

They just lost one of their "sith lords" when Rothschilde died. He was the person "Mr. Burns \" was modeled after on the Simpsons, probably with his blessings. He acknowledged how incest was required in their family to keep them money there. It was as creepy as it sounds. He took glee in it.


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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Japov,

The Republican's alone could fix the border over night if they chose to simply hold off ANY vote until it was done. But they will not because they are nothing more than controlled opposition.

I'm not with you on that... The globalist "green energy" bill that the Dems keep trying to push disguised as border security is a joke
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Even those who seem to be holding them "hostage" (The small Trump coalition) are simply playing a role as a steam valve to let off pressure to keep an ACTUAL rise up from happening. They carefully use these players in this theatrical production to keep any real accounting for the Establishment Elites from happening. They push things right up to the brink, then let off a little steam by giving just enough "victory" to those they fear most (regular people) from saying once and for all "enough!" It is genius, but still evil. If these vultures simply took their % off the top but allowed society to otherwise thrive, they would be seen as benevolent heroes, even though they may be getting even more money than now. But these evil people desire fear and misery in equal parts as some large portion of their existence seems to depend on it.

I've never truly been a "MAGA Republican" lol... I just like Trump because the "establishment" hates and fears him for being anti-globalist. You're right, the "system" is so corrupt you can't really tell who the enemy is anymore. However, the difference between Biden / Trump policies are obvious now. I've always said, "Trump is a businessman... not a politician." But, that certainly doesn't make him a saint Lol

Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
They just lost one of their "sith lords" when Rothschilde died. He was the person "Mr. Burns \" was modeled after on the Simpsons, probably with his blessings. He acknowledged how incest was required in their family to keep them money there. It was as creepy as it sounds. He took glee in it.

I've always hated that stupid "Deliverance" cliché, it's just WRONG!
To this day, you can still trace the incestuous, "blue blooded", aristocratic genealogy of the Northern ruling class back to the 1700s... Probably another reason why they hate Trump. He's the "New Blood" with no family ties lol.

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Why isn't there a "White History Month"?
Mexican?
German?
Chinese?
Indian....?

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There is no white history month because Republicans and right wing nut jobs and fascists banned all the books that showed them in a bad light.

After that, there was nothing left to talk about wink


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
There is no white history month because Republicans and right wing nut jobs and fascists banned all the books that showed them in a bad light.

After that, there was nothing left to talk about wink

I was going to follow your lead and compile a list of everything the Nazi Socialist Libtards have tried to cancel or sensor...
What a fukn' rabbit hole! laugh

You're just mad because, no matter how hard they try, God won't let them cancel the Bible grin

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Here is someone quoting the Bible, supporting the idea Trump is the Antichrist....



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LOL... At the end he asks people to "kindly be respectful" if they leave him any comments laugh

I hope Trump IS the antichrist! That would mean the rapture will happen Jan 20 LMBFAO

If you would just watch the Hal Lindsey series...
Oh, never'mind...

You can lead a horse to water...

https://www.hallindsey.com/videos/hal-lindsey-presents-5262019/640/

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The Club of Rome is a group of diverse people...in a position to know...who on a scientific basis....warn that based on dwindling resources, climate change and population growth, the Earth will cease to exist as we know it 2050.

They had their first meeting in 1968.

So even if one does not believe in Biblical Prophesy, there are others predicitng the same kind of turmoil based on science.

And just as there are those who would disagree with HL, or Revelations, or prophesy, there are those who would deny climate change, who would not care about dwindling resources as long as they get their share, or see population growth as desirable....as long as that growth is the way they want it.

In the meantime, no one really "knows" until it happens....and in my experience, nothing ever happens like you think it will.

And I do not believe for a second DT is the Antichrist....just that you can take Bible verses and interpret them as you see fit.


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"In the meantime, no one really "knows" until it happens...."
Or if it will happen. I won't be around in 2050.

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"you can take Bible verses and interpret them as you see fit"
Yes, I see different interpretations all the time. Some that stretches the imagination.

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1Acre = 4840 square yards
Total acreage of USA = 2.27 Billion
Current world population 7.8 Billion (individual men, women, children)
2.27/7.8 = 0.291 acres or 1613 sq yards (4839 sq ft)
Average area of a "*F A M I L Y*" dwelling in USA = 2000 sq ft.

1 sq mile = 640 acres
Land mass of planet Earth = 57,506,000 sq miles
Land mass of USA = 3,546,875 sq miles (6% of total land)
Planet Earth is 70% water
The total surface area of Earth is about 197 million square miles
The USA = 1.8% of the total surface area of planet Earth

The atmosphere of planet Earth is 300 miles thick

The current global debt is 307 Trillion. Most people can't wrap their heads around such a ridiculous figure...
If you could spend 1 dollar per second, that's 86,400 dollars per day, it would take you 9,734,906 years to spend 307 Trillion. It would take you 1,046,423 years to spend 33 Trillion.

If the entire population of the Earth can comfortably occupy only 1.8% of the planet... then where are all the planet's resources going? If 5% of the population owns 100% of the planet's resources... then how does "supply and demand" factor into our current debt?

Figures lie... Liars figure.

The only reason "global capitalists" want you to believe that overpopulation is wasting global resources is because... it boosts their profits, they can inflate their costs.
Meanwhile, they're the ones "trashing" the Earth and "TAXING" the population with the responsibility of cleaning it up. They set the stage for how everyone should live with multibillion dollar advertising and pretty plastic packaging, then blame the consumer for all the trash and poor air quality in our filthy cities... which they own.

As the "consumer"... you're being held responsible for living precisely the way corporate government engineered modern life to be lived. Then, you're penalized with the taxes they deem necessary to fix their profit motivated engineering. Ironically, they justify this business standard by calling it "freedom".

It occurs to me that mankind has reached a strange time in its "evolution"... when the concept of "money" has outgrown the worth of the planet we occupy.

Greed is the root of all evil.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Figures lie... Liars figure.

The only reason "global capitalists" want you to believe that overpopulation is wasting global resources is because... it boosts their profits, they can inflate their costs.
Meanwhile, they're the ones "trashing" the Earth and "TAXING" the population with the responsibility of cleaning it up. They set the stage for how everyone should live with multibillion dollar advertising and pretty plastic packaging, then blame the consumer for all the trash and poor air quality in our filthy cities... which they own.

As the "consumer"... you're being held responsible for living precisely the way corporate government engineered modern life to be lived. Then, you're penalized with the taxes they deem necessary to fix their profit motivated engineering. Ironically, they justify this business standard by calling it "freedom".

It occurs to me that mankind has reached a strange time in its "evolution"... when the concept of "money" has outgrown the worth of the planet we occupy.

Greed is the root of all evil.

Tony

I promised myself to avoid this thread as radioactive. But I read it now and then and something remarkable happened that astonished me.
You wrote something realistic, credible, tangible and somewhat verifiable, for maybe the first time ever. Quoted above.

Correction: for the first time ever.

For my money, the gist of the quote is correct.
If over-population and the various wastes resulting from over-consumption are going to ultimately choke the planet off...then why is an ever expanding population for the sake of expanding profits (or anything) a paradigm?

All of your prefacing facts and figgers about this and that looks like 2+2 = 37.3
But the gist of your wrap-up puts you and me sharing a viewpoint.
I was so stunned that I set aside my better judgement and said so.

Stunned in Madasgascar,

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
All of your prefacing facts and figgers about this and that looks like 2+2 = 37.3

Then use a calculator... Duhh! laugh

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Mass is measured in grams, not square miles ....that is like the famous Star Wars gaffs when Han Solo said the Millenial Falcon set the record for The Kessel Run in 12 parsecs....a unit of distance, not speed.

But I love your point where big corporations are trashing the Earth for their own profits....and that our lives and economies are essentially dictated by their products and behaviour.

And even if consumers balk, sometimes the response is disingenious. (Some) fast food companies for example, let their patrons sort their garbage into recycling and garbage, only to put everything together curbside.
Their consumers think they are doing good but for the company it means extra handling costs so they simply negate the good their patrons try to do.

Sugar is one of my beefs. Big Sugar vs Fat was a big debate in the 1950's or so. Big Sugar won and sugar was deemed ...by politicians no less....to be less harmful than fat.
We now have a huge Type2 Diabetes issue around the world as sugar is added to almost eveything.

Here one use plastic is being banned. So no more plastic shopping bags for example. Problem is everyone re-used them as garbage bags. Now with no more "free" garbage bags, they have to buy them from Glad or another supplier or find some other way to neatly dispose of waste

Still, how we as individuals and as a group respond is strictly on us.

If you\enough people boycot a company, they will change their behaviour because it hurts their bottom line.

If you elect politicians who will promote your agenda, you may change things.

In the end, it is entirely up to you and the decisions you make for yourself. That is true for faith and all other areas of life


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Mass is measured in grams, not square miles

Figures...
I'm obviously just one of the 8Billion misled "masses" wink

Damn public schools...

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I'm actually being a little unfair to you Tony as Land Mass does reference area.....so don't blame your schooling...blame my twisted humour


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Did you get the correlation between "sugar" and "misled masses"? laugh

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Some years ago my doctor told me I was borderline Type2 and had to change my eating habits.

Read a book by Dr Jason Fung who traced the history of sugar and its effect round the world. Simple dietary habit change that involved no more added sugar and periodic\intermittent fasting (so no food, only broth for a day here and there......and all daily meals compressed into 8 hours...so daily brunch and dinner only...... worked for me)

Totally worked to both lose weight and lower my threshold so that Type 2 is under control...AND weight loss has been maintained easily. So no yoyo. Seems the body "resets" under that regimen...and no hunger or sweet cravings.


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They put me on medication and my fasting blood sugar dropped to 40!

I quit the meds and started checking my blood sugar 2hrs after dinner. I discovered that when I'm maintaining weight, I usually hover around 140; Which is normal. When I'm strictly dieting and slowly losing weight that number drops.

I believe the new "A1C" standard is just a Big Pharma scam to push prescription drugs. That's not to mention, I haven't seen a long term study of the effects associated with these meds. It occurs to me that if your body becomes acclimated to the meds instead of relying upon your own insulin production... that could probably do some long term harm.

Complicating the issue even more is "insulin resistance".
That just seems like sedentary living to me...

Don't get me wrong, I know that insulin dependent diabetes is real.
However, if you can control your blood sugar with diet and exercise, I question the validity of this new "epidemic".

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Totally agree....amazon has The Diabetes Code by Dr Jason Fung

If you can, get it, read it and follow his advice....

Letting Big Pharma dictate your reponse simply allows bad habits and sugar consumption to continue as is.


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Being a type 2 diabetic, I am reading with great interest the above posts...I was diagnosed on Sept 18, 2020 by my neurologist....he had me go, immediately, to the local hospital where I was told I was lucky to be alive..my health had deteriorated to the point where I had to pause walking up 1 flight of stairs to catch my breath..I met a doctor and an expert in diabetes..who gave me tons of info on the disease...I took it home and went on the internet and googled and googled....a couple of hours later I threw out every bit of food I had in my apartment...the next day I went to the supermarket and bought the food I should be eating...for the last 3 1/2 years I have not changed, not even once, what I eat from that first day....

there are, I believe 2 different reading results... mine is mmol/L with a range of 4 to 7 being where the test results should land....in 2020 it was 26.7 and my A1C was 17.....meant nothing to me at the time...one month later it was below 7.0

By sticking to my new food regimen, I lost 50 lbs and have not moved from that # by a couple of pounds for 3 years...my blood sugar level has averaged 5.5 for 3 years with no number going above 6.0 after hundreds of tests...I started testing 3 times a day and now test 3 times a month, with the same results...the 50 lb loss I attribute to cutting my food consumption in half and the type of food I eat...my food bill was cut in half as well

Diabetes is a major health problem...10% of Canadians have it..and getting worse

Diabetes can be controlled but not cured at present

Type 2 is more than likely about what and how much you eat

To fight diabetes is a lifestyle change not a “go on a diet”

Carbs are the killer

Because I have not had a number above 7 for 3 years does not mean it has been reversed, I still have diabetes and it will progress but very slowly as long as I keep dong what I’m doing

My main concern is not diabetes...it’s the impact it has on the rest of my body...I now have peripheral neuropathy which is a destruction of the nerve endings in my feet caused by...diabetes...they cut off your limbs if it gets too bad....my doctor said as long as my blood sugar levels stay where they are I should be OK...now that’s an incentive to keep doing the same thing every day

I comment here only because I encourage people to make that life change....it is a killing disease that can attack you everywhere in your body....

at age 76 I have a simple thought each day "what do I need to do today to give a a chance to wake up tomorrow morning" I'm not sure that's where my thinking was 40, 50 years ago

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Adjusting my diet was a real eye-opener lol.
You simply can't buy processed food...
Cutting salt and sugar is impossible if you buy canned goods.
Corn, soybeans, and rice will kill you!

It's no wonder everybody's so sick and fat!
Government subsidized farms and grocers don't give you many affordable healthy options... frown

AND I REFUSE TO BUY $7.50/lb CHUCK ROAST!

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"Let them eat cereal..."
STUPID A$$HOLES!!

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
"Let them eat cereal..."
STUPID A$$HOLES!!

Yes, you can feed a family of four with one box of cereal. And have enough left over for breakfast. Very economical! So, stop complaining about high prices. laugh

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Right stop complaining. Eat Tony the Tiger cereal with water.
Do you expect to live forever Tony ? , stop bitching. what would Jesus do ?

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Groceries and homeowners insurance/maintenance are cutting way too deeply into my guitar habit, Damn'it!

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Yeah its ruff , at least your not in Calif , Sleepy Joe economy
Well always solutions , Shoot a doe at 2am , your freezer will be filled for 2 months.
Real Estate is blown way out of context , Its a roof . Your dying and in debt for the American nightmare , Brain -washing at its finest .
Keeping up with the Jones and green lawns ,Don't miss that payment , that bank will rob you blind . Biggest bull [naughty word removed] story in history , besides religion .

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State of the union address... Anybody watching?

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SOTU transcript 2024... with commentary...

It's as if he wrote this speech just for me wink

"""Good evening....

Mr. Speaker. Madam Vice President. Members of Congress. My Fellow Americans.

(gag)

In January 1941, President Franklin Roosevelt came to this chamber to speak to the nation.

He said, "I address you at a moment unprecedented in the history of the Union."

Hitler was on the march. War was raging in Europe.

President Roosevelt's purpose was to wake up the Congress and alert the American people that this was no ordinary moment.

Freedom and democracy were under assault in the world.

Tonight I come to the same chamber to address the nation.

Now it is we who face an unprecedented moment in the history of the Union.

And yes, my purpose tonight is to both wake up this Congress, and alert the American people that this is no ordinary moment either.

Not since President Lincoln and the Civil War have freedom and democracy been under assault here at home as they are today.

(Hitler, Lincoln, Civil War, Democracy... WTF! Way to set the tone, $hithead...)

What makes our moment rare is that freedom and democracy are under attack, both at home and overseas, at the very same time.

(Freedom has been under attack since Cain killed Abel, moron!)

Overseas, Putin of Russia is on the march, invading Ukraine and sowing chaos throughout Europe and beyond.

If anybody in this room thinks Putin will stop at Ukraine, I assure you, he will not.

But Ukraine can stop Putin if we stand with Ukraine and provide the weapons it needs to defend itself. That is all Ukraine is asking. They are not asking for American soldiers.

In fact, there are no American soldiers at war in Ukraine. And I am determined to keep it that way.

But now assistance for Ukraine is being blocked by those who want us to walk away from our leadership in the world.

(An AMERICAN leader would never encourage China to fund Russia in the first place! TRAITOR!)

It wasn't that long ago when a Republican President, Ronald Reagan, thundered, "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall."

Now, my predecessor, a former Republican President, tells Putin, "Do whatever the hell you want."

(The Berlin Wall was built to keep people from ESCAPING communism, idiot!)

A former American President actually said that, bowing down to a Russian leader.

It's outrageous. It's dangerous. It's unacceptable.

America is a founding member of NATO the military alliance of democratic nations created after World War II to prevent war and keep the peace.

Today, we've made NATO stronger than ever.

We welcomed Finland to the Alliance last year, and just this morning, Sweden officially joined NATO, and their Prime Minister is here tonight.

Mr. Prime Minister, welcome to NATO, the strongest military alliance the world has ever known.

I say this to Congress: we must stand up to Putin. Send me the Bipartisan National Security Bill.

History is watching.

If the United States walks away now, it will put Ukraine at risk. Europe at risk. The free world at risk, emboldening others who wish to do us harm. My message to President Putin is simple.

We will not walk away. We will not bow down. I will not bow down.

History is watching, just like history watched three years ago on January 6th.

(Without American money, NATO doesn't exist! The USA can't police the entire world... In fact, the USA can't even police its own borders or cities!)

Insurrectionists stormed this very Capitol and placed a dagger at the throat of American democracy.

(Yeah', the most well protected piece of real estate on this planet! I wonder who dropped THAT ball, you fukn' liar!)

Many of you were here on that darkest of days.

We all saw with our own eyes these insurrectionists were not patriots. They had come to stop the peaceful transfer of power and to overturn the will of the people.

January 6th and the lies about the 2020 election, and the plots to steal the election, posed the gravest threat to our democracy since the Civil War.

But they failed. America stood strong and democracy prevailed.

(No law enforcement, No borders, No conservatism, Welcome China... YAY for democracy!)

But we must be honest the threat remains and democracy must be defended.

My predecessor and some of you here seek to bury the truth of January 6th.

I will not do that.

(You're not fooling anybody, a$shole!)

This is a moment to speak the truth and bury the lies.

And here's the simplest truth. You can't love your country only when you win.

(But you can hate lying senile $hithead politicians 24/7/365!)

As I've done ever since being elected to office, I ask you all, without regard to party, to join together and defend our democracy!

(Oh, I'm feeling the love...)

Remember your oath of office to defend against all threats foreign and domestic.

(Old soldiers think of little else, fool!)

Respect free and fair elections! Restore trust in our institutions! And make clear -political violence has absolutely no place in America!

(Granting 10million illegal aliens amnesty and allowing them to vote shouldn't piss anybody off...)

History is watching.

(And the future is saying "FUUK YOOU"!)

And history is watching another assault on freedom.

Joining us tonight is Latorya Beasley, a social worker from Birmingham, Alabama. 14 months ago tonight, she and her husband welcomed a baby girl thanks to the miracle of IVF.

She scheduled treatments to have a second child, but the Alabama Supreme Court shut down IVF treatments across the state, unleashed by the Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade.

She was told her dream would have to wait.

(Try a turkey baster...)

What her family has gone through should never have happened. And unless Congress acts, it could happen again.

So tonight, let's stand up for families like hers!

To my friends across the aisle, don't keep families waiting any longer. Guarantee the right to IVF nationwide!

Like most Americans, I believe Roe v. Wade got it right. And I thank Vice President Harris for being an incredible leader, defending reproductive freedom and so much more.

But my predecessor came to office determined to see Roe v. Wade overturned.

He's the reason it was overturned. In fact, he brags about it.

Look at the chaos that has resulted.

Joining us tonight is Kate Cox, a wife and mother from Dallas.

When she became pregnant again, the fetus had a fatal condition.

Her doctors told Kate that her own life and her ability to have children in the future were at risk if she didn't act.

Because Texas law banned abortion, Kate and her husband had to leave the state to get the care she needed.

What her family has gone through should never have happened as well. But it is happening to so many others.

There are state laws banning the right to choose, criminalizing doctors, and forcing survivors of rape and incest to leave their states as well to get the care they need.

Many of you in this Chamber and my predecessor are promising to pass a national ban on reproductive freedom.

My God, what freedoms will you take away next?

(Gasoline? Beef? Free speech? Guns?)

In its decision to overturn Roe v. Wade the Supreme Court majority wrote, "Women are not without electoral or political power."

No kidding.

Clearly, those bragging about overturning Roe v. Wade have no clue about the power of women in America.

They found out though when reproductive freedom was on the ballot and won in 2022, 2023, and they will find out again, in 2024.

If Americans send me a Congress that supports the right to choose, I promise you, I will restore Roe v. Wade as the law of the land again!

(Women have been making and aborting babies for thousands of years, and will continue to do so without the government's permission... Quit making a federal issue out of sex and procreation, dumbass! Spend my tax dollars on something more important!)

America cannot go back. I am here tonight to show the way forward. Because I know how far we've come.

Four years ago next week, before I came to office, our country was hit by the worst pandemic and the worst economic crisis in a century.

Remember the fear. Record job losses. Remember the spike in crime. And the murder rate.

A raging virus that would take more than 1 million American lives and leave millions of loved ones behind.

A mental health crisis of isolation and loneliness.

A president, my predecessor, who failed the most basic duty. Any President owes the American people the duty to care.

That is unforgivable.

(Trump began the research into Covid vaccines and approved them for "emergency" use. You shut down the entire planet, mass produced unproven vaccines, and turned the whole world into a science experiment while helping China hide the source of the virus!)

I came to office determined to get us through one of the toughest periods in our nation's history.

(You engineered the problem so you could appear to have a solution, LIAR!)

And we have. It doesn't make the news but in thousands of cities and towns the American people are writing the greatest comeback story never told.

(Record inflation, record crime, record drug use, record suicide...)

So let's tell that story here and now.

America's comeback is building a future of American possibilities, building an economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not the top down, investing in all of America, in all Americans to make sure everyone has a fair shot and we leave no one behind!

(Unless you label them as insurrectionists and MAGA extremists... Divisive much, A$SHOLE!?)

The pandemic no longer controls our lives. The vaccines that saved us from COVID are now being used to help beat cancer.

(If your brain doesn't liquify and your heart doesn't explode! "Follow the science", moron...)

Turning setback into comeback.

That's America!

(Yeah', that's why half your own party fukn' hates you...)

I inherited an economy that was on the brink. Now our economy is the envy of the world!

(Seriously dude... Pull your head out of Xi Jinping's ass!)

15 million new jobs in just three years — that's a record!

Unemployment at 50-year lows.

A record 16 million Americans are starting small businesses and each one is an act of hope.

(Government mandated "global green energy" initiatives don't count, fuktard!)

With historic job growth and small business growth for Black, Hispanic, and Asian-Americans.

(First BLM, then the alphabetasexuals, now Hispanics and Asians...? Minority interest politics and labels labels labels...)

800,000 new manufacturing jobs in America and counting.

(BULL$HIT! EVERYTHING BUT MY HOUSE SAYS "MADE IN CHINA"!)

More people have health insurance today than ever before.

The racial wealth gap is the smallest it's been in 20 years.

Wages keep going up and inflation keeps coming down!

Inflation has dropped from 9% to 3% — the lowest in the world!

And trending lower.

And now instead of importing foreign products and exporting American jobs, we're exporting American products and creating American jobs — right here in America where they belong!

(That was Trump, you crazy senile old ba$terd! Remember? "Anti-Trump executive orders" ringing any bells? Real Americans aren't half as dumb as you think, a$$hole!)

And the American people are beginning to feel it.

(Oh, we're feeling SOMETHING, that's for sure...)

Consumer studies show consumer confidence is soaring.

Buy American has been the law of the land since the 1930s.

(Well, you sure fukd' that up!)

Past administrations including my predecessor failed to Buy American.

Not any more.

(Buying votes doesn't count, a$$hole!)

On my watch, federal projects like helping to build American roads bridges and highways will be made with American products built by American workers creating good-paying American jobs!

(Right, the "ILLEGAL American Immigrant" dream...)

Thanks to my Chips and Science Act the United States is investing more in research and development than ever before.

During the pandemic a shortage of semiconductor chips drove up prices for everything from cell phones to automobiles.

Well instead of having to import semiconductor chips, which America invented I might add, private companies are now investing billions of dollars to build new chip factories here in America!

(Yeah', implanted RFID will certainly be the next trend I'm sure...)

Creating tens of thousands of jobs many of them paying over $100,000 a year and don't require a college degree.

(You can't fix your fukd'up education system by lowering standards, IDIOT!)

In fact my policies have attracted $650 Billion of private sector investments in clean energy and advanced manufacturing creating tens of thousands of jobs here in America!

(Star Trek is FICTION! Antimatter doesn't exist! Tanks and fighter jets will never run on fukin' batteries!)

Thanks to our Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, 46,000 new projects have been announced across your communities — modernizing our roads and bridges, ports and airports, and public transit systems.

(Must be why airplanes are falling apart...)

Removing poisonous lead pipes so every child can drink clean water without risk of getting brain damage.

Providing affordable high speed internet for every American no matter where you live. Urban, suburban, and rural communities — in red states and blue.

(Now you want credit for common sense? Credit for what you should have already done...?)

Record investments in tribal communities.

(Show me a happy "Tribal American"...)

Because of my investments, family farms are better be able to stay in the family and children and grandchildren won't have to leave home to make a living.

It's transformative.

(Only if they grow GMO corn, soybeans, pigs and chickens)

A great comeback story is Belvidere, Illinois. Home to an auto plant for nearly 60 years. Before I came to office the plant was on its way to shutting down. Thousands of workers feared for their livelihoods. Hope was fading.

Then I was elected to office and we raised Belvidere repeatedly with the auto company knowing unions make all the difference.

The UAW worked like hell to keep the plant open and get those jobs back. And together, we succeeded!

Instead of an auto factory shutting down an auto factory is re-opening and a new state-of-the art battery factory is being built to power those cars.

Instead of a town being left behind it's a community moving forward again!

Because instead of watching auto jobs of the future go overseas 4,000 union workers with higher wages will be building that future, in Belvidere, here in America!

Here tonight is UAW President, Shawn Fain, a great friend, and a great labor leader.

And Dawn Simms, a third generation UAW worker in Belvidere.

Shawn, I was proud to be the first President in American history to walk a picket line.

And today Dawn has a job in her hometown providing stability for her family and pride and dignity.

Showing once again, Wall Street didn't build this country!

The middle class built this country! And unions built the middle class!

(And gross federal overreach supports the unions... Does "free market" mean anything to you?)

When Americans get knocked down, we get back up!

We keep going!

That's America! That's you, the American people!

It's because of you America is coming back!

It's because of you, our future is brighter!

And it's because of you that tonight we can proudly say the State of our Union is strong and getting stronger!

(Too little too late, fool... You're Outta'There!)

Tonight I want to talk about the future of possibilities that we can build together.

(Dream a little dream...)

A future where the days of trickle-down economics are over and the wealthy and biggest corporations no longer get all the breaks.

(But, you will still claim to control the economy...)

I grew up in a home where not a lot trickled down on my Dad's kitchen table.

That's why I'm determined to turn things around so the middle class does well the poor have a way up and the wealthy still does well.

We all do well.

(Just arrest all the conservative constitutionalists...)

And there's more to do to make sure you're feeling the benefits of all we're doing.

(What if I don't like feeling "Big Brother" over my shoulder all the damn time?!?)

Americans pay more for prescription drugs than anywhere else.

It's wrong and I'm ending it.

(Bull$hit!)

With a law I proposed and signed and not one Republican voted for we finally beat Big Pharma!

Instead of paying $400 a month for insulin seniors with diabetes only have to pay $35 a month!

And now I want to cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month for every American who needs it!

For years people have talked about it but I finally got it done and gave Medicare the power to negotiate lower prices for prescription drugs just like the VA does for our veterans.

That's not just saving seniors money.

It's saving taxpayers money cutting the federal deficit by $160 Billion because Medicare will no longer have to pay exorbitant prices to Big Pharma.

This year Medicare is negotiating lower prices for some of the costliest drugs on the market that treat everything from heart disease to arthritis.

Now it's time to go further and give Medicare the power to negotiate lower prices for 500 drugs over the next decade.

That will not only save lives it will save taxpayers another $200 Billion!

Starting next year that same law caps total prescription drug costs for seniors on Medicare at $2,000 a year even for expensive cancer drugs that can cost $10,000, $12,000, $15,000 a year.

Now I want to cap prescription drug costs at $2,000 a year for everyone!

(And that $2000 a year will become mandatory for everyone with insurance while China will be making all the drugs...)

Folks Obamacare, known as the Affordable Care Act is still a very big deal.

Over one hundred million of you can no longer be denied health insurance because of pre-existing conditions.

But my predecessor and many in this chamber want to take that protection away by repealing the Affordable Care Act I won't let that happen!

We stopped you 50 times before and we will stop you again!

In fact I am protecting it and expanding it.

I enacted tax credits that save $800 per person per year reducing health care premiums for millions of working families.

Those tax credits expire next year.

I want to make those savings permanent!

($800 vs $2000? Yep', certainly sounds like equitable redistribution to me... Affordable healthcare is only a right as long as you can force taxpayers to fund it. Fukn' Crook!)

Women are more than half of our population but research on women's health has always been underfunded.

That's why we're launching the first-ever White House Initiative on Women's Health Research, led by Jill who is doing an incredible job as First Lady.

Pass my plan for $12 Billion to transform women's health research and benefit millions of lives across America!

(WooHoo, more taxes! On the average, women live 10yrs longer than men. So, what's so important about womenfolk other than their vote?)

I know the cost of housing is so important to you.

If inflation keeps coming down mortgage rates will come down as well.

But I'm not waiting.

I want to provide an annual tax credit that will give Americans $400 a month for the next two years as mortgage rates come down to put toward their mortgage when they buy a first home or trade up for a little more space.

(Good Lord, you must think people are stupid! Seriously, Dude!? You're willing to comp anyone who will commit to a high interest 30yr mortgage? On "YOUR PROMISE" that the rates will come down? Then refinance? A$$HOLE!)

My Administration is also eliminating title insurance fees for federally backed mortgages.

When you refinance your home this can save you $1,000 or more.

(Has it ever occurred to you that the federal government shouldn't be in the insurance biz?)

For millions of renters, we're cracking down on big landlords who break antitrust laws by price-fixing and driving up rents.

I've cut red tape so more builders can get federal financing, which is already helping build a record 1.7 million housing units nationwide.

Now pass my plan to build and renovate 2 million affordable homes and bring those rents down!

(But, the program only targets a specific demographic...)

To remain the strongest economy in the world we need the best education system in the world.

I want to give every child a good start by providing access to pre-school for 3- and 4-year-olds.

(And here we go... "Federal Childcare". Ladies, your rights do not afford you any options. MAKE YOUR BABIES AND GET BACK TO WORK!)

Studies show that children who go to pre-school are nearly 50% more likely to finish high school and go on to earn a 2- or 4-year degree no matter their background.

(And still wind up working at McDonald's...)

I want to expand high-quality tutoring and summer learning time and see to it that every child learns to read by third grade.

(Children can learn to read and speak at almost the same time. Any "Housewife" can tell you that!)

I'm also connecting businesses and high schools so students get hands-on experience and a path to a good-paying job whether or not they go to college.

(Yep', "Get'em while they're young"!)

And I want to make college more affordable.

(Why don't you focus on eliminating the incestuous aristocracy of the "Ivy League". And, END FOREIGN "FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTIONS" FROM COMMUNIST GOVERNMENTS!)

Let's continue increasing Pell Grants for working- and middle-class families and increase our record investments in HBCUs and Hispanic and Minority-serving Institutions

(Or, screw the illegal migrants and minorities! Focus on academics "Nation Wide"! It sure would have been nice if I qualified for financial aid when I came back from Desert Storm! The GI Bill is fukn' worthless unless you're anything but WHITE!)

I fixed student loan programs to reduce the burden of student debt for nearly 4 Million Americans including nurses firefighters and others in public service like Keenan Jones a public-school educator in Minnesota who's here with us tonight.

He's educated hundreds of students so they can go to college now he can help his own daughter pay for college.

Such relief is good for the economy because folks are now able to buy a home start a business even start a family.

(When are you idiots on Capitol Hill gonna' start talking about anything real!? Like, how a family man should actually be able to take a more active role in raising his kids while enjoying the fruits of his own labor! Instead, you keep trying to justify student debt for the sake of teachers unions!)

While we're at it I want to give public school teachers a raise!

(I just want every teacher from South Carolina to California to know precisely what they're supposed to be TEACHING!)

Now let me speak to a question of fundamental fairness for all Americans.

I've been delivering real results in a fiscally responsible way.

I've already cut the federal deficit by over one trillion dollars.

I signed a bipartisan budget deal that will cut another trillion dollars over the next decade.

And now it's my goal to cut the federal deficit $3 trillion more by making big corporations and the very wealthy finally pay their fair share.

(The average man enters the workforce independently at age 20. Has established himself and can afford a down payment on a 30yr mortgage by age 30. That's 60yrs of indoctrination and servitude so the federal government can blow tax dollars **half a man's income** on God only knows what! I think it's time for an in depth federal audit! You're the ones blowing the money... YOU'RE THE FUKN' PROBLEM!)

Look, I'm a capitalist.

(Correction; You're a PROFITEER!)

If you want to make a million bucks — great!

Just pay your fair share in taxes.

A fair tax code is how we invest in the things that make a country great, health care, education, defense, and more.

But here's the deal.

The last administration enacted a $2 Trillion tax cut that overwhelmingly benefits the very wealthy and the biggest corporations and exploded the federal deficit.

They added more to the national debt than in any presidential term in American history.

For folks at home does anybody really think the tax code is fair?

Do you really think the wealthy and big corporations need another $2 trillion in tax breaks?

I sure don't. I'm going to keep fighting like hell to make it fair!

Under my plan nobody earning less than $400,000 will pay an additional penny in federal taxes.

Nobody. Not one penny.

In fact the Child Tax Credit I passed during the pandemic cut taxes for millions of working families and cut child poverty in HALF.

Restore the Child Tax Credit because no child should go hungry in this country!

The way to make the tax code fair is to make big corporations and the very wealthy finally pay their share.

In 2020 55 of the biggest companies in America made $40 Billion in profits and paid zero in federal income taxes.

Not any more!

Thanks to the law I wrote and signed big companies now have to pay a minimum of 15%.

But that's still less than working people pay in federal taxes.

It's time to raise the corporate minimum tax to at least 21% so every big corporation finally begins to pay their fair share.

I also want to end the tax breaks for Big Pharma, Big Oil, private jets, and massive executive pay!

End it now!

There are 1,000 billionaires in America.

You know what the average federal tax rate for these billionaires is? 8.2 percent!

That's far less than the vast majority of Americans pay.

No billionaire should pay a lower tax rate than a teacher, a sanitation worker, a nurse!

That's why I've proposed a minimum tax of 25% for billionaires. Just 25%.

That would raise $500 Billion over the next 10 years.

Imagine what that could do for America. Imagine a future with affordable child care so millions of families can get the care they need and still go to work and help grow the economy.

Imagine a future with paid leave because no one should have to choose between working and taking care of yourself or a sick family member.

Imagine a future with home care and elder care so seniors and people living with disabilities can stay in their homes and family caregivers get paid what they deserve!

(Fact; Figures lie, liars figure, and the US Federal Government is obviously in business for its damn self! Any idiot can see that the rich just keep getting richer, only the rich run the government, and the cheap chuck roast at Walmart is $7.50 A FUKN' POUND!)

Tonight, let's all agree once again to stand up for seniors!

Many of my Republican friends want to put Social Security on the chopping block.

If anyone here tries to cut Social Security or Medicare or raise the retirement age I will stop them!

Working people who built this country pay more into Social Security than millionaires and billionaires do. It's not fair.

We have two ways to go on Social Security.

Republicans will cut Social Security and give more tax cuts to the wealthy.

I will protect and strengthen Social Security and make the wealthy pay their fair share!

Too many corporations raise their prices to pad their profits charging you more and more for less and less.

That's why we're cracking down on corporations that engage in price gouging or deceptive pricing from food to health care to housing.

In fact, snack companies think you won't notice when they charge you just as much for the same size bag but with fewer chips in it.

Pass Senator Bob Casey's bill to put a stop to shrinkflation!

(STOP WAGING WAR ON GAS AND COW FARTS YOU FUK'N MORON!)

I'm also getting rid of junk fees those hidden fees added at the end of your bills without your knowledge. My administration just announced we're cutting credit card late fees from $32 to just $8.

The banks and credit card companies don't like it.

Why?

I'm saving American families $20 billion a year with all of the junk fees I'm eliminating.

(PEOPLE ARE LIVING ON THEIR CREDIT CARDS BECAUSE OF YOU, A$$HOLE!)

And I'm not stopping there.

(Surprise, surprise...)

My Administration has proposed rules to make cable travel utilities and online ticket sellers tell you the total price upfront so there are no surprises.

(You set that standard, moron!)

It matters.

(NO $HIT! You're DONE!)

And so does this.

In November, my team began serious negotiations with a bipartisan group of Senators.

The result was a bipartisan bill with the toughest set of border security reforms we've ever seen in this country.

That bipartisan deal would hire 1,500 more border security agents and officers.

100 more immigration judges to help tackle a backload of 2 million cases.

4,300 more asylum officers and new policies so they can resolve cases in 6 months instead of 6 years.

100 more high-tech drug detection machines to significantly increase the ability to screen and stop vehicles from smuggling fentanyl into America.

This bill would save lives and bring order to the border.

(JUST FINISH THE FUKN' WALL, RETARD!)

It would also give me as President new emergency authority to temporarily shut down the border when the number of migrants at the border is overwhelming.

(Protecting this nation's sovereign borders and Constitution is the president's FIRST priority, DUMBA$$! You've had that authority since you stole the election!)

The Border Patrol Union endorsed the bill.

The Chamber of Commerce endorsed the bill.

I believe that given the opportunity a majority of the House and Senate would endorse it as well.

But unfortunately, politics have derailed it so far.

(BULL$HIT! You, Obama, Clinton, and Pelosi made a point of derailing America the day of your inauguration!)

I'm told my predecessor called Republicans in Congress and demanded they block the bill. He feels it would be a political win for me and a political loser for him.

It's not about him or me.

(YOU'RE a loser!)

It'd be a winner for America!

(BULL$HIT! You don't do anything with America in mind... You're just preaching to congress!)

My Republican friends you owe it to the American people to get this bill done.

We need to act.

And if my predecessor is watching instead of playing politics and pressuring members of Congress to block this bill, join me in telling Congress to pass it!

We can do it together. But here's what I will not do.

I will not demonize immigrants saying they "poison the blood of our country" as he said in his own words.

I will not separate families.

I will not ban people from America because of their faith.

Unlike my predecessor, on my first day in office I introduced a comprehensive plan to fix our immigration system, secure the border, and provide a pathway to citizenship for Dreamers and so much more.

Because unlike my predecessor, I know who we are as Americans.

(Really? That's why you're inviting criminals to invade America? You honestly believe you know ME?!
FUUK YOOU!)


We are the only nation in the world with a heart and soul that draws from old and new.

Home to Native Americans whose ancestors have been here for thousands of years. Home to people from every place on Earth.

Some came freely.

Some chained by force.

Some when famine struck, like my ancestral family in Ireland.

Some to flee persecution.

Some to chase dreams that are impossible anywhere but here in America.

That's America, where we all come from somewhere, but we are all Americans.

(Correction; We are law abiding citizens.)

We can fight about the border, or we can fix it. I'm ready to fix it.

Send me the border bill now!

(Screw your bill, fuk'tard!)

A transformational moment in our history happened 59 years ago today in Selma, Alabama.

(Oh, here we go... More BLM Bull$hit!)

Hundreds of foot soldiers for justice marched across the Edmund Pettus Bridge, named after a Grand Dragon of the KKK, to claim their fundamental right to vote.

They were beaten bloodied and left for dead.

Our late friend and former colleague John Lewis was at the march.

We miss him.

Joining us tonight are other marchers who were there including Betty May Fikes, known as the "Voice of Selma".

A daughter of gospel singers and preachers, she sang songs of prayer and protest on that Bloody Sunday, to help shake the nation's conscience. Five months later, the Voting Rights Act was signed into law.

(By Lyndon B Johnson in 1965! The same racist As$hole democrat who said, "I'll have these niggers voting democrat for the next 200yrs!" Apparently, HE WAS RIGHT!)

But 59 years later, there are forces taking us back in time.

Voter suppression. Election subversion. Unlimited dark money. Extreme gerrymandering.

John Lewis was a great friend to many of us here. But if you truly want to honor him and all the heroes who marched with him, then it's time for more than just talk.

Pass and send me the Freedom to Vote Act and the John Lewis Voting Rights Act!

(Letting criminals and illegal aliens vote? Isn't that a bit obvious? Let's just let Russia, China, and Iran mail their votes in as well... Somebody needs to check your damn meds!)

And stop denying another core value of America our diversity across American life.

Banning books.

It's wrong!

Instead of erasing history, let's make history!

(Burning flags and books, and destroying landmarks is a traditional democrat passtime, fool!)

I want to protect other fundamental rights!

Pass the Equality Act, and my message to transgender Americans: I have your back!

Pass the PRO Act for workers rights! And raise the federal minimum wage because every worker has the right to earn a decent living!

(Raising the minimum wage is like printing more money, moron... IT DOESN'T WORK! All you get is uncontrolled INFLATION!)

We are also making history by confronting the climate crisis, not denying it.

I'm taking the most significant action on climate ever in the history of the world.

(Well, I guess that's reasonable... considering this is the first time in history mankind has claimed control of the weather.)

I am cutting our carbon emissions in half by 2030.

Creating tens of thousands of clean-energy jobs, like the IBEW workers building and installing 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations.

(How much is it going to cost to recycle all the dead batteries, moron?)

Conserving 30% of America's lands and waters by 2030.

(Speaking of shrinkflation...)

Taking historic action on environmental justice for fence-line communities smothered by the legacy of pollution.

(Pollution that profit motivated industry is responsible for, but the general public is taxed to clean up.)

And patterned after the Peace Corps and Ameri Corps, I've launched a Climate Corps to put 20,000 young people to work at the forefront of our clean energy future.

I'll triple that number this decade.

(Again, WOOHOO, more taxes to pay their wages...)

All Americans deserve the freedom to be safe, and America is safer today than when I took office.

The year before I took office, murders went up 30% nationwide the biggest increase in history.

That was then.

(Georg Floyd OD'd... Derik Chauvin is innocent! The democrats fund BLM!)

Now, through my American Rescue Plan, which every Republican voted against, I've made the largest investment in public safety ever.

(Social engineering at its best... but, looks like it's backfiring.)

Last year, the murder rate saw the sharpest decrease in history, and violent crime fell to one of the lowest levels in more than 50 years.

(Only in Alabama...)

But we have more to do.

Help cities and towns invest in more community police officers, more mental health workers, and more community violence intervention.

Give communities the tools to crack down on gun crime, retail crime, and carjacking.

(Too little too late, fool! Should have been doing your job all along.)

Keep building public trust, as I've been doing by taking executive action on police reform, and calling for it to be the law of the land, directing my Cabinet to review the federal classification of marijuana, and expunging thousands of convictions for mere possession, because no one should be jailed for using or possessing marijuana!

(Marijuana and Fentanyl are coming from the same direction, A$$hole!)

To take on crimes of domestic violence, I am ramping up federal enforcement of the Violence Against Women Act, that I proudly wrote, so we can finally end the scourge of violence against women in America!

(Come on, maaan... What about men playing women's sports?)

And there's another kind of violence I want to stop.

With us tonight is Jasmine, whose 9-year-old sister Jackie was murdered with 21 classmates and teachers at her elementary school in Uvalde, Texas.

Soon after it happened, Jill and I went to Uvalde and spent hours with the families.

We heard their message, and so should everyone in this chamber do something.

I did do something by establishing the first-ever Office of Gun Violence Prevention in the White House that Vice President Harris is leading.

Meanwhile, my predecessor told the NRA he's proud he did nothing on guns when he was President.

After another school shooting in Iowa he said we should just "get over it."

I say we must stop it.

I'm proud we beat the NRA when I signed the most significant gun safety law in nearly 30 years!

Now we must beat the NRA again!

I'm demanding a ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines!

Pass universal background checks!

None of this violates the Second Amendment or vilifies responsible gun owners.

(What about the mental health of all these "woke" children you're brainwashing? They don't even know if they're male or female anymore! Cancel culture has taught them to disregard the value of life and individuality. When are you going to take responsibility for THAT, A$$hole?!)

As we manage challenges at home, we're also managing crises abroad including in the Middle East.

I know the last five months have been gut-wrenching for so many people, for the Israeli people, the Palestinian people, and so many here in America.

This crisis began on October 7th with a massacre by the terrorist group Hamas.

1,200 innocent people women and girls men and boys slaughtered, many enduring sexual violence.

The deadliest day for the Jewish people since the Holocaust.

250 hostages taken.

Here in the chamber tonight are American families whose loved ones are still being held by Hamas.

I pledge to all the families that we will not rest until we bring their loved ones home.

We will also work around the clock to bring home Evan and Paul, Americans being unjustly detained all around the world.

Israel has a right to go after Hamas.

(You really should have just stopped right here...)

Hamas could end this conflict today by releasing the hostages, laying down arms, and surrendering those responsible for October 7th.

Israel has an added burden because Hamas hides and operates among the civilian population. But Israel also has a fundamental responsibility to protect innocent civilians in Gaza.

This war has taken a greater toll on innocent civilians than all previous wars in Gaza combined.

More than 30,000 Palestinians have been killed.

Most of whom are not Hamas.

(Show me one anti-hamas protester in Gaza...)

Thousands and thousands are innocent women and children.

Girls and boys also orphaned.

Nearly 2 million more Palestinians under bombardment or displaced.

Homes destroyed, neighborhoods in rubble, cities in ruin.

Families without food, water, medicine.

It's heartbreaking.

We've been working non-stop to establish an immediate ceasefire that would last for at least six weeks.

(These people are commanded by their god to destroy Israel and kill Jews...)

It would get the hostages home, ease the intolerable humanitarian crisis, and build toward something more enduring.

The United States has been leading international efforts to get more humanitarian assistance into Gaza.

Tonight, I'm directing the U.S. military to lead an emergency mission to establish a temporary pier in the Mediterranean on the Gaza coast that can receive large ships carrying food, water, medicine and temporary shelters.

No U.S. boots will be on the ground.

This temporary pier would enable a massive increase in the amount of humanitarian assistance getting into Gaza every day.

But Israel must also do its part.

Israel must allow more aid into Gaza and ensure that humanitarian workers aren't caught in the cross fire.

To the leadership of Israel I say this.

Humanitarian assistance cannot be a secondary consideration or a bargaining chip.

(Nobody is more aware of that than an Israeli soldier...)

Protecting and saving innocent lives has to be a priority.

(No one is innocent in Gaza.)

As we look to the future, the only real solution is a two-state solution.

I say this as a lifelong supporter of Israel and the only American president to visit Israel in wartime.

There is no other path that guarantees Israel's security and democracy.

There is no other path that guarantees Palestinians can live with peace and dignity.

There is no other path that guarantees peace between Israel and all of its Arab neighbors, including Saudi Arabia.

(Hamas will never agree to peace... You know that, $hithead!)

Creating stability in the Middle East also means containing the threat posed by Iran.

That's why I built a coalition of more than a dozen countries to defend international shipping and freedom of navigation in the Red Sea.

I've ordered strikes to degrade Houthi capabilities and defend U.S. Forces in the region.

As Commander in Chief, I will not hesitate to direct further measures to protect our people and military personnel.

(Protect trade routes with the enemies, but don't eliminate the enemies... STUPID!)

For years, all I've heard from my Republican friends and so many others is China's on the rise and America is falling behind.

They've got it backward.

America is rising.

We have the best economy in the world.

Since I've come to office, our GDP is up.

And our trade deficit with China is down to the lowest point in over a decade.

(There shouldn't be ANY deficit with China...)

We're standing up against China's unfair economic practices.

And standing up for peace and stability across the Taiwan Strait.

I've revitalized our partnerships and alliances in the Pacific.

I've made sure that the most advanced American technologies can't be used in China's weapons.

(Seriously... why is that even an issue?)

Frankly for all his tough talk on China, it never occurred to my predecessor to do that.

We want competition with China, but not conflict.

(Xi Jinping doesn't see a difference...)

And we're in a stronger position to win the competition for the 21st Century against China or anyone else for that matter.

Here at home I've signed over 400 bipartisan bills.

But there's more to do to pass my Unity Agenda.

Strengthen penalties on fentanyl trafficking.

Pass bipartisan privacy legislation to protect our children online.

Harness the promise of A.I. and protect us from its peril.

Ban A.I. voice impersonation and more!

And keep our one truly sacred obligation, to train and equip those we send into harm's way and care for them and their families when they come home, and when they don't.

(SACRED BORDERS, IDIOT! SOLDIERS ARE A LAST RESORT! Defending American interests IS YOUR JOB!)

That's why I signed the PACT Act, one of the most significant laws ever, helping millions of veterans who were exposed to toxins and who now are battling more than 100 cancers.

(Soldiers come home with more than just cancer... A lot more!)

Many of them didn't come home.

We owe them and their families.

And we owe it to ourselves to keep supporting our new health research agency called ARPA-H and remind us that we can do big things like end cancer as we know it!

(Clean energy, control the weather, and end cancer... Your arrogant self delusion has its own zip code.)

Let me close with this.

I know I may not look like it, but I've been around a while.

And when you get to my age certain things become clearer than ever before.

I know the American story.

Again and again I've seen the contest between competing forces in the battle for the soul of our nation.

Between those who want to pull America back to the past and those who want to move America into the future.

My lifetime has taught me to embrace freedom and democracy.

A future based on the core values that have defined America.

Honesty. Decency. Dignity. Equality.

(TRUTH! JUSTICE! FREEDOM FOR ALL!)

To respect everyone. To give everyone a fair shot. To give hate no safe harbor.

Now some other people my age see a different story.

An American story of resentment, revenge, and retribution.

That's not me.

(Release Derik Chauvin and the so called insurrectionists!)

I was born amid World War II when America stood for freedom in the world.

I grew up in Scranton, Pennsylvania and Claymont, Delaware among working people who built this country.

I watched in horror as two of my heroes, Dr. King and Bobby Kennedy, were assassinated and their legacies inspired me to pursue a career in service.

(You know, in this racially charged political atmosphere, I find that statement oddly peculiar...)

A public defender, county councilman, elected United States Senator at 29, then Vice President, to our first Black President, now President, with our first woman Vice President.

In my career I've been told I'm too young and I'm too old.

Whether young or old, I've always known what endures.

Our North Star.

The very idea of America, that we are all created equal and deserve to be treated equally throughout our lives.

We've never fully lived up to that idea, but we've never walked away from it either.

(AFGANISTAN!!!)

And I won't walk away from it now.

My fellow Americans the issue facing our nation isn't how old we are it's how old our ideas are?

Hate, anger, revenge, retribution are among the oldest of ideas.

But you can't lead America with ancient ideas that only take us back.

To lead America, the land of possibilities, you need a vision for the future of what America can and should be.

Tonight you've heard mine.

(All I've heard is lies and fairytales... FOOL!)

I see a future where we defend democracy not diminish it.

I see a future where we restore the right to choose and protect other freedoms not take them away.

I see a future where the middle class finally has a fair shot and the wealthy finally have to pay their fair share in taxes.

I see a future where we save the planet from the climate crisis and our country from gun violence.

Above all, I see a future for all Americans!

I see a country for all Americans!

(DEFINE AMERICAN! DEFINE CONSTITUTIONAL REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC!)

And I will always be a president for all Americans!

Because I believe in America!

I believe in you the American people.

You're the reason I've never been more optimistic about our future!

So let's build that future together!

Let's remember who we are!

We are the United States of America.

There is nothing beyond our capacity when we act together!

May God bless you all.

May God protect our troops."""

(May God give you everything you've ever wanted...)

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