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It's good to see Eddie again!!!


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Congrats Mike....I had nothing...nice game Craig!!

Thanks, Steve.

Yeah, good game, Craig.

I knew I knew it and started to remember the words "sugar and spice" and then it was easy.

I'll have a brain twister later tonight for y'all... confused exclamation cool


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Congratulations again Mike! Looking forward to your next game! Tho what probably will happen is Steve or Eddie will beat me to the answer(s).

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JPF Mystery Tune #98:

An individual who was in the band (a) that made the traditional folk song "Tom Dooley" a hit wrote a song (song x) that another band (b) had a Top 10 hit with, and that band (b) had a member who wrote a song (song y) that became a Top 20 hit for yet another band (c) who had a member who went solo and recorded a song (song z). This (solo) artist had several top ten hits, but this particular song (z) just barely made the Billboard Top 40, and it was written by a songwriter who also had a Top 40 hit, HIMSELF, but just one, and a different song than song z.

Name songs x, y, and z.

2/3 correct guesses will be declared winner!

Three incorrect guesses, you're out!

If you come up with different answers that also work, you still win, AND with the added bonus of humiliating the puzzle maker who is pretty sure there is only one true path to song z. grin

--Start with the obvious stuff; they might all fall like dominoes!

--I DO know you all know AT LEAST two of these songs really well.

--First clues will be tomorrow around noon East Coast time.

Have fun!!!!


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Song x “Daydream Believer,” by John Stewart of the Kingston Trio.
Song y “Different Drum,” by Michael Nesmith of the Monkees
Song z “”Poor Poor Pitiful Me” by Warren Zevon, performed by Linda Ronstadt
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Originally Posted by Craig Allen
Congratulations again Mike! Looking forward to your next game! Tho what probably will happen is Steve or Eddie will beat me to the answer(s).

Ha!

BINGO!

The dominoes have fallen...

Craig, without a clue, has solved the puzzle, and is our winner!

Who doesn't love the song "Daydream Believer" ...? Peter Tork's shining moment, coming up with the easy going piano intro. Canadian Anne Murray also had a hit with the song.



--and Different Drum?



--Different Drum, personally, is on my top ten favorite songs of all time. Linda Ronstandt's performance slays me every time it comes around to "so...goodbye.."

but I thought there might be some trouble getting to Warren Zevon's wonderful song:



The alliteration! The self-deprecation! Ha! Zevon's STILL not in the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame, despite the public outcry...well...he didn't really have the hits, but don't go round Letterman talking like that!

For a great read, you could do a lot worse than his ex-wife, Crystal Zevon's biography, "I'll Sleep When I'm Dead" btw. It will put you at the scene of the crime of West Hollywood/Hollywood Hills/Laurel Canyon in the Seventies.

Congrats, Craig!!!! Very nicely done. Very very very nicely done, for sure. smile

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Ok Craig had an unfair advantage...he had the brand new ZANESKI DECODER RING... lol

Congrats Craig...way above my pay grade

Steve


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Craig is more "back" than Sedaka ever was!

--the hardest thing about this puzzle was, I think, the Escher-like maze that can be created with long sentences with multiple clauses lol. I must've re-read that sucker fifty times, making sure I said everything correctly!


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BTW...

Warren Zevon's only hit:

Proof that songs can start as memes and gather a weight, as time goes by, all on their own. It started as a kind of joke by Phil Everly, having seen a movie of the same name--he thought that title would make a great "dance craze."

So Zevon and (then) wife Crystal, along with friend LeRoy Marinell and frequent Zevon bandmate and friend Waddy Wachtel were partying and the three men improvised lyrics and Crystal transcribed. Zevon would play the song most tour nights, adding new improvised lines here and there, until the song lands in this form:


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The KT is one of my all-time favorite folk groups, so followed them for some time. Great game!! Even greater with that Michael Z.’s Decoder Ring!

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
Craig is more "back" than Sedaka ever was!

--the hardest thing about this puzzle was, I think, the Escher-like maze that can be created with long sentences with multiple clauses lol. I must've re-read that sucker fifty times, making sure I said everything correctly!

Hey, Mike, your clue wasn't the problem...it's CLUE...less Steve


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JPF Mystery Tune #99. … is ready to solve. And is too easy.

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It's like The Eagles play The Ventures lol...so familiar...


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It's like The Eagles play The Ventures lol...so familiar...

Yes, Mike, lol

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Craig, just to make sure...these are the first sung notes, right?


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Craig, just to make sure...these are the first sung notes, right

This song starts with a two bar strummed guitar intro. Followed by the notes on the SoundCloud link. Sung? No.

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Ha!

Well that melody is a first-cousin to "Ghost Riders In The Sky" but it veers off...so maybe I need to look at more Duane Eddy and maybe Ventures stuff...thinking out loud, don't mind me, haha...


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Thinking out loud is good!

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Clues: The writer of this song was inducted into the Alabama Jazz Hall of Fame, but the group who had a hit song with it later (no. 2 Billboard) was known for its ‘surf-rock’ style.

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From my first thoughts, everything led to The Ventures. I must've listened to "Walk Don't Run" a half a dozen times yesterday. Johnny Smith seals the deal, I think.


The Ventures

Walk Don't Run (1960 version)

Johnny Smith songwriter

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Correct! Walk Don’t Run, the Ventures!



Johnny Smith.



Chet Atkinson version.


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Congrats Mike!! Nice game Craig!!

Steve


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The Ventures were so good, they didn't even need amps...lol


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I kept passing on "Walk Don't Run" cuz my memory kept overriding what I was hearing in the actual recording! In my erroneous memory of the song, the second and third notes are 8th notes, when in fact the second note is a (syncopated) quarter note, like you play it. It's made tricky by the fact that when you play that 2nd note on your 12-string, I was not thinking syncopated, before the down beat, melody, but I was imagining that 2nd note fell on the down beat. Hence my passing on "Walk Don't Run" initially. Now, if you played that while tapping your foot to the beat, different story lol...playing a syncopated melody without the bearings of a beat with it can make for the perfect clue, like yours, Craig!

Great game!!!

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The Ventures were so good, they didn't even need amps...lol

That’s too funny! I just noticed that..the Ventures were on the Dick Clark show which aired from 1958-60. According to IMDB, all but a few acts were lip synced. Clark’s very first guest performed live: Jerry Lee Lewis. Also live were Fats Domino and Bill Doggett, who performed the instrumental “Honky Tonk,” but that was it.

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It's made tricky by the fact that when you play that 2nd note on your 12-string…

Hey Mike, those are some old strings, real old. Hope that didn’t skew things!

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Walk don't run was one of the 1st songs I learned on my guitar back in the day. I remember it sounding "thin" until I learned how to play some bar chords! Those bass notes were a big deal at that moment!

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Walk don't run was one of the 1st songs I learned on my guitar back in the day. I remember it sounding "thin" until I learned how to play some bar chords! Those bass notes were a big deal at that moment!

Same here. Gloria was another one. And seems every kid in Jr. High knew how to play the drum solo on Wipeout on the gym floor.

John L.S. mentioned he’d be away until October. Number 100 is yours John! If you’re there. Otherwise, anyone can play!

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Challenge # 100!!!

JNMSGBDJDWJB

Everything is already in the following order.... songwriter, act 1, song, act 2....sort of....example,,,here is my name....steven paul mcdonald already in order SPMTCADEOUNVALLEDN

Name the song...the 2 acts best known for recording it and the songwriter....one of the acts reached #9 and was a signature performance for the other act although it really didn’t chart for that act....the song was covered by many well known artists


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Hi Steve, clarifying your choice of the word "act" is to cover ALL configurations of solo artists, bands, and everything in-between. Thanks. Looks like a good one!

Also, you use your middle name in your example. Does this mean the songwriter's middle name is the second letter in your jumble whether or not we know that songwriter by that (first, middle, and last name) configuration or not? IOW, if Joni Mitchell's middle name was "Nancy." --it's not, but just as an example...

Or is it that if that middle name is indeed the second letter of the jumble, it's because that's the way people know that songwriter's name, such as "Jerry Jeff Walker."

I guess I just want to disallow the possibility of that second letter being a middle name if it's not normally how we know that songwriter, as having that middle name as part of his/her "professional name."

Thanks again, if clarifying gives something away, I understand!

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Hi Mike

Act covers all as you have stated

I was just showing you how it was unscrambled and yet scrambled ie...steven is in order and not say vtsene and the songwriter may or may not have a second name


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The "SPM" in my example is a clue to how the scramble is configured


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Hi Mike

Act covers all as you have stated

I was just showing you how it was unscrambled and yet scrambled ie...steven is in order and not say vtsene and the songwriter may or may not have a second name

Thanks. "May or may not" makes sense. It also clarifies that there won't be a middle name IF the songwriter isn't "known" that way.

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Mike just to clarify I said everything was already in order...."sort of" in other words, the J and N at the beginning are not connected


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Mike just to clarify I said everything was already in order...."sort of" in other words, the J and N at the beginning are not connected

Now I'm totally confused, sorry.

The only way those two letters could not be connected is if the songwriter went by one name? From your example (SPM) I took you to mean that the first one, two, or possibly three letters (in your clue) were sequential initials in a songwriter's name. Now I'm not sure what to think LOLOL.

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Let say the scramble was about suite judy blue eyes performed by csn written by steven stills

the scramble in order would be scsjssbne the s is for suite the c is for crosby the s is for steven

you can also see that sjbe is already in order within the scramble...


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Let say the scramble was about suite judy blue eyes performed by csn written by steven stills

the scramble in order would be scsjssbne the s is for suite the c is for crosby the s is for steven

you can also see that sjbe is already in order within the scramble...

Oh, I get it...I think...

1) the categories are as you stated, in order of "songwriter, act 1, song, act 2"

2) the initials for each category are SEQUENTIAL but not necessarily one-after-the-other or connected. IOW, "CAT" might be hidden as such: "ChjhAbbT"


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my name example was a bad one...lolol


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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Let say the scramble was about suite judy blue eyes performed by csn written by steven stills

the scramble in order would be scsjssbne the s is for suite the c is for crosby the s is for steven

you can also see that sjbe is already in order within the scramble...

Oh, I get it...I think...

1) the categories are as you stated, in order of "songwriter, act 1, song, act 2"

2) the initials for each category are SEQUENTIAL but not necessarily one-after-the-other or connected. IOW, "CAT" might be hidden as such: "ChjhAbbT"

Bingo!!!


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
my name example was a bad one...lolol

Not your name so much, but putting the three initials that comprise your name together in a connected way, that had me thinking incorrectly about your puzzle's rules.

Thanks for your patience with me LOL. smile

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Holy crap...

This was the first thing I thought of when I first looked at the scramble, but decided it couldn't be right...but now I'm pretty sure it is!

I think...

Songwriter: Jerry Jeff Walker
Act One: Nitty Gritty Dirt Band
Song: Mr. Bojangles
Act Two: Sammy Davis Jr.


I loved SDJ's Mr. Bojangles. He turned the song into a one act play!
I grew up loving NGDB's hit, too...

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You got it!!


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Good game, Steve!


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SDJ was an exceptional performer...singer, dancer, musician and actor....


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You guys are too fast! Great game, great songs! I saw the clues, Mike’s questions about middle name clarification, and then, boom, it’s solved!

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Okay, I just thought of one...totally different than anything we've done...more like a riddle...

Sorry Craig, hope you see this!

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Mystery Song(s) #101:

Two Billboard USA Top Ten Hits...

Both have NUMBERS written (as numbers, not words) in the title...

And the difference between the two numbers is " 0.4 "

Name the two songs and two artists..

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Should be easy, I think?

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98.6 Keith 99 TOTO


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That is incorrect, Steve. Toto's song only reached #26.


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And note how I say the number is IN the title, and that means the number is not necessarily the whole, entire title.


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