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I use to use guitar rigs interface right into PC, pick the sound, and record. I was told by salesman at guitar
Center, that's all I needed. It is if you want a software sounding guitar.

I assume the best bet is playing through amp, and mikng the amp
This can create problems with neighbors.

But I'm curious what interfaces you guys use,

And I assume straight into focusrite is weak too.

But I wanna hear what you do, those home recording forums, you gotta be a member for a year before they talk to you. Can't just go and ask a question.

Plus I'll usually get in a fight cause they talk to y as if you know nothing, yet you hear their songs...

It's like yeah dude ok you have some gear, and know how to use it, your not Pete Townshend...

Anyway, discuss

I think I'm gonna get this too , one of the best virtual guitars I've seen. Mix them both up...

The idea behind the whole line of "Session Guitarist" from Native Instruments (there's at least a few in this series) is twofold--it can be used like any other virtual guitar, iow play a note on a midi keyboard (or write a note into your DAWs piano scroll) and hear that note played by the virtual guitar. My guess is that at around $90-100, you are not getting a deeply sampled instrument.

But mainly people buy into this series cuz of the rhythm guitar phrases programed into the software. Rhythm guitar phrases that you can tweak in various ways such as shifting the articulation pattern forward and backwards in terms of beats, but all told it's rather limited in terms of creative freedom. Put more simply: you can't create your own rhythm guitar patterns from scratch, not that I know of, and not from what I've read.

But there are many dozens of rhythm guitar phrases and the average user will probably not ever run out of ideas, using this.

Be aware that the rhythm guitar phrases use of Session Guitarist "ChooseYourPoison" is similar to BIAB, in terms of these are pre-recorded rhythm guitar phrases that are being tweaked by your choices within the program. In BIAB you enter chords, in Session Guitarist, you play a chord from a midi keyboard or write one into your DAWs piano scroll. BIAB uses top session players in various styles of music such as Brent Mason in Nashville. Session Guitarist probably does too; the rhythm guitar phrases all sound pretty good and there's a wide variety of them. And obviously, Session Guitarist is aimed specifically at various virtual guitars, while BIAB is more generalized.

Oh good I know somebody who knows about it!
Yeah I would never use one of their riffs for my songs, you know how I feel about that

But I would maybe use some rhythm stuff, perhaps stuff o would t have thought of myself

I think the acoustic will be fine, always nice to fill in with a strummed acoustic

Another appealing thing is who is to say I can't play my own riffs in the keys, it's sometimes easier to play cleanly on keys.

But I'd still play guitar as well. I have to see how it all blends.

Are the patterns really useful? I would think finding one that fits your song, would be tough, which is my main beef with all virtual stuff

But the sound of this is awesome, use it in somewhere

The more specific a thing you're looking for, the harder it is to find.

You can always just get in the sandbox and have fun with it and let a rhythm guitar phrase strike you as something you want to use, then write music around that.

Oft times with Session Guitarist and BIAB too, I have a very specific idea that neither program can embody, can get exactly right. Then I either compromise or tweak the audio in Melodyne. Usually I compromise or try again, or use a deeply sampled virtual instrument and write the specific notes in the DAW's piano scroll.

If you're a player, forget the software.

POD Go has replaced my interface. You can plug anything into it with 1/4 mono/stereo jacks. The only thing it lacks is an XLR input for mics, but it does have a preset amp for mics. So, if you currently have an interface, you can still use it as a stand alone pre-amp.

Another great option is a Catalyst amp from Line6. (they're running a sale right now, I just wish I needed another amp lol) It will also interface directly with your computer and comes with a lot of the same CabSims as the POD.

And, yes, you can run the line-out/headphone from your current amp into the POD and just use the Cab/Mic sims and squash boxes.

I can't say enough good things about POD Go

Thanks, it's been awhile since I looked at pod stuff, I was never really a fan of sims to begin with, but fid convenience they are great.

Hard to get a good clean sound with sims, they sound good dirty.

What do you think of Yamahas th line?

I think clean guitar that is bright is hard to find without tubes

FD,

I was up too early when I posted on here, and I apologize. Just so you don't think you're going crazy, I changed "riffs and phrases" to read "rhythm guitar phrases" which is a far more accurate description of what the Session Guitarist series does. It creates rhythm guitar parts from simple input, like holding down a chord on your midi keyboard or writing notes into your DAW's piano scroll. I should know because I've had the acoustic one for several years but barely use it.

Everything else I can stand by.

Sorry to create a false impression with my mental confusion. I know the difference between a riff and a rhythm guitar phrase, I swear!!! LOL

Mike

Nah you're good. I know a little about it. what you can never really know is how much use you will get as a songwriter.

I have never written around a pattern, my songs start a capella, which then requires an arrangement that compliments it.

I'm good enough on guitar to play my songs,...after I learn them lollll

If I need more can ask online for overdubs

With multi tracking u can do alot with less chops too

I used to be really fluid on guitar

Way too much to explain here lol...

https://line6.com/support/manuals/podgo

POD Go is just Helix's little brother. They're ALL tube amps, with jumps and bias controls. Not to mention all the effects. Trust me, you'll spend weeks going through all the mics, cabs, effects, and pages of controls... But it's got a big screen and it's all laid out logically and easy to use. Clean amp is the default user setting lol

So one person records guitar, lol

What are there maybe ten regulars ?

And none record electric guitar,

I do wonder what all those people reading ten years old posts are actually doing?

People should be made to sign in to read threads.

Each one of them deserves an elbow

Fd, you’re probably right, there are only 5 frequent posters to the mp3 forum since January 1, 2023...


Here is an unscientific look at who the posters are

Unfortunately if people have to sign in to read a post, the site probably shuts down fairly soon

Frequent posters

JAPOV
Bennash
Rob. B.
Mike Zaneski
Gavin Sinclair

Occaisional Posters

Sunset Poet
Ironknee
Guy Trepanier

Infrequent Posters

Travis David
Stve Altonian
MFB lll
Vnorth2
E. Swartz
John Voorpostel
ckiphen
Vicarn
Other one-offs

Steve

My new Catalyst 200 arrives Friday lol...

Anybody wanna' buy an old 4/10 blues Deville?

Yeah but the idea is to force them out of hiding. Maybe they are so addicted to reading posts from yester year, that taking it away if they dint sign in would at least let us see who they are, then we can harass them into posting and contributing.

I mean it's really sad and borderline psychotic going through threads that represent perhaps a time when they frequened this site, but as an outsider like wtf.....

Some of the inane threads they are reading too. It's not songs it's topics sometimes music related sometimes not.

I just dint get it, your here say something.

It's almost like a cult religion, only the chosen people of yesterday do we follow.

Very bizarre

Those fender blues amps I found to be muddy. I've been looking at the line6 stuff, I don't know they were all tubes.

Have you tried Yamaha th, I'm looking for sound but simplicity too

And you didn't really say how you recorded guitar, just the gear...

It's very bazaar... When you check "Who's Online" all the current posts are there... but that's only about 10 out of 1000 anonymous viewers pulling up 20y/o threads.

Perhaps someone or "something" is indexing the site?

The Deville sounds great when you run stomp boxes into it with just a smidge of gain, very punchy and warm. But, on its own, you're right, it's a one trick pony. It also weighs a ton and is loud as hell lol.

Think of POD Go as an interface amp/amps that you can plug anything into. Electric/Acoustic Guitars, Bass, Keys, Vox... Anything

I thought you had something like this for me ..

I had never heard of this guy before Rick Beatos videos. Evidently he's one of rocks, at least metal s greatest guitarists.

Love when he says if the song is not good, it's chocolate covered [naughty word removed].

Dude, Nuno is a Monster!

Extreme is a great band. But, lyrically...

Why software falls Short

https://www.guitarworld.com/features/nuno-bettencourt-guitar-tone-tips

Nice price, Sweetwater is a great company. They managed to get customers being online, hard to do when people wanna try stuff out first.

Hard to believe but guitar is maybe the last thing ill put down, just going with what i have right now. Getting overwhelmed too cause i have years worth of stuff to record.

Im gonna try out some smallish amps this weekend, ive been reading about yamahas stuff, and those small tube amps by bugera, vox too

FDE,

I've used both micing into amps directly or plugging in directly to a Presonus Studion 192 -1/4" which has a decent pre-amp in it's interface. Different amps can give you different tones for sure, but you can still embellish the direct recordings later if desired within your DAW's stock plug-ins and a plug-in such as Ampire which gives you hundreds of tones & different amps or use Ampire as stand alone. I use an Aston Spirit condenser for direct micing with amps. For acoustic, mostly just micing natural, but sometimes direct into interface for scratch tracks or wanting to just emulate an electric sound. I don't think I'm telling you anything you don't already know--just how I do it.

steady-eddie

No Eddie, all comments are appreciated, its a discussion.

You get a good sound. Yeah whats interesting is if we had this conversion 25 years ago maybe? Or before music was recorded on computers
the conversation would be alot different. "I put my amp in a hallway, and run a line out as well as two mics, one on the corner of the speaker cone, the other above it by 5 feet.

lol, tech, has made it so thats neccessary, and helps us do what we do which is make music.

Yeah, im not sure what answers I was expecting, just maybe starting a conversation.

Seems theres not alot of mystery to it, just plug and play these days. There is a risk of everybody sounding the same, which seems to be the case in modern music,

Yamaha makes this series TH which is intriguing. Nice and small, and comes with an software, that functions basicly as a cabinet sim and amp sim. Wish I knew somebody who had one.