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Another older song revamped.

The lyric was me thinking about tectonic plates in California. Anthropomorphizing them, as it were. Trying to imagine their thoughts.

This time I use LALALS as well as Synth V.

This song is an example of how NOT to use LALALS.

I'll explain. I sounded a little like Elton John when I made the original vocal recording back decades ago. I used LALALS to enhance that. Now, unless I try to "pitch" this to Elton John, I have a potential deep fake here, but upon closer listening, you can hear that when I sing "joined" (and other high notes) it was so unlike how Elton John would sing it that the illusion breaks right there, for me and most people.

The best way to use LALALS is to create unique voices by blending your voice with anyone other than who you sound like. Not only to avoid "deep-fakery" but to come up with something unique. Something I haven't done here. This is just for a little bit of "wow" factor in how it does sound like Elton when I'm not singing the tag. That's all LALALS.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy it. smile



Joined At the Fault

We live in a golden state
And agitate against our call
An inch of trust, a pinch of salt
A coupled crust
joined at the fault

Some people say there'll come a quake
To break us in its grand assault
It's true we move in our own way
Swayed by our love and
joined at the fault

Joined in our humanity
Our genius and insanity
In our imperfect passion
In our selfless compassion

We might be two tectonic plates
That days or centuries will reason
We'll relocate to our new fate
When comes the quaking season

But for now we're coupled thus
Within our treason and our trust
The movement of our love is all
Homed in our hearts and
joined at the fault

Joined in our humanity
Our genius and insanity
In our imperfect passion
In our selfless compassion

We live in a golden state
And agitate against our call
An inch of trust, a pinch of salt
A coupled crust
joined at the fault

*************************************************

(C) 1993, 2006, 2023 Michael Zaneski

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There's a tremor in Cali every other day lol... Folks just nervously laugh it off and say, "One day..."

Very "Elton John'ish" indeed.

I read the lyric first and was hoping the music would be more aggressive... unnerving.

Perhaps that's just me projecting my fond adolescent recollections of Orange Co. onto your song lol wink

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Now, unless I try to "pitch" this to Elton John... really interesting concept, Mike, he'd already have an idea how his voice might sound...I like that thought


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Joined at the fault is brilliant


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
There's a tremor in Cali every other day lol... Folks just nervously laugh it off and say, "One day..."

Very "Elton John'ish" indeed.

I read the lyric first and was hoping the music would be more aggressive... unnerving.

Perhaps that's just me projecting my fond adolescent recollections of Orange Co. onto your song lol wink

Ha!

No...these tectonic plates are mellow, mannnnn...... cool

Thanks, Tony.


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Joined at the fault is brilliant

Thanks, Steve.

I love how the metaphor can extend into what it means to be human.

It makes me very happy to know you like the song!


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Hi Mike,
what a beautiful song. Thank you for explaining in detail how you used LALALS. You really sound like Elton. Cool! Are those female backing vocals AI or for real?
You have some awesome talents.

All the best - Robert

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I think you beat Elton man , Really cool song
You get away with Compound-complex sentences.

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Hi Mike,
what a beautiful song. Thank you for explaining in detail how you used LALALS. You really sound like Elton. Cool! Are those female backing vocals AI or for real?
You have some awesome talents.

All the best - Robert

Hi Rob,

Essentially what LALALS does is completely change the vocal cords while retaining the performance. So much of what we consider "style" though, is in the singer's performance which means the vocal range, intonation, phrasing, vocal tics and word pronunciation. I imagine many kids go to LALALS singing garbage and expecting a miracle. For a good "deep fake" one needs to copy that singer's range, phrasing, tics and pronunciations and feed that performance into LALALS...THEN one will get something sounding just like that singer.

But for artists and producers (like us) who just want something unique, none of the above applies. Hybrid voices are more easily achieved: simply mismatch source and target and a hybrid "unique" voice will be achieved. Not always what you might expect or want, but different, for sure.

For example, the background singer was Solaria modified with LALALS Celine Dion. You can hear bits of both in that performance.

I'm glad you like the song! I think I am realizing I've buried part of my soul by abandoning some of these older songs that I just know are good ones. I am having so much fun reviving them while in this sandbox of new toys which may or may not end up being part of my ever-changing process.

Thanks,

Mike

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Originally Posted by bennash
I think you beat Elton man , Really cool song
You get away with Compound-complex sentences.

Haha thanks, Ben.

If I wrote the way my brain works it would be completely indecipherable. Lucky for me, I have a good enough "inner editor" to work the lines enough to get something resembling a sensical lyric.

Well, I have bedroom voice on a lot of my older recordings, and so when I should be "belting" on the chorus notes, I'm not. And so the faux Elton sounds a little lame to me on those title line notes.

LALALS kind of blew my mind yesterday when I fed it "falsetto" from a different song and got a clear loud, angry James Hetfield (Metallica) voice, LOL. I wasn't expecting a falsetto to sound like anything other than a different falsetto.

Anyway, thanks for kind words, it's great when another decent songwriter likes your work. smile


Mike

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Well I bought a grammar book , so I'm showing off on Compound-complex sentences.
I'll have to google that word Mike . Anthropomorphizing, It'll take me a year to figure it out lol
You got alot of talent man
Mike if I was that smart , You might have a chance beating Biden in 2024
Now I might vote if you run
Well Elton will be doing another I retired tour again I bet , like all of them

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Hey Michael,

I definitely found this entertaining. Loved your vocals within this really cool music arrangement that is enveloping yet your vocals still win out. I could see this as a Bowie/E.John collab! But you beat them to it, as IMO you have your own sound here--bravo!

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Originally Posted by bennash
Well I bought a grammar book , so I'm showing off on Compound-complex sentences.
I'll have to google that word Mike . Anthropomorphizing, It'll take me a year to figure it out lol
You got alot of talent man
Mike if I was that smart , You might have a chance beating Biden in 2024
Now I might vote if you run
Well Elton will be doing another I retired tour again I bet , like all of them

I don't think I've listened to a whole album by EJ since 'Yellow Brick Road a long time ago. Taupin is touring his new book. I never knew he's been living in California--a cowboy's lifestyle on a ranch for awhile now, shaking and quaking along with the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by E Swartz
Hey Michael,

I definitely found this entertaining. Loved your vocals within this really cool music arrangement that is enveloping yet your vocals still win out. I could see this as a Bowie/E.John collab! But you beat them to it, as IMO you have your own sound here--bravo!

steady-eddie

Thanks, Eddie.

I have been moving forward without stopping to re-assess my past work for well over 25 years.

Thanks to some new toys I've given myself permission to just have fun with some older material I haven't thought about in decades.

Fun and productivity...hmmmm...I'm seeing a pattern here wink

I'm glad you're enjoying this and I appreciate your kind words.

Thanks again,

Mike

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Yeah he raises RCA rodeo bulls . Not sure how he got from that to sensitive songs.
Or did , Its been awhile since I read about him.

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
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Another older song revamped.

The lyric was me thinking about tectonic plates in California. Anthropomorphizing them, as it were. Trying to imagine their thoughts.

This time I use LALALS as well as Synth V.

This song is an example of how NOT to use LALALS.

I'll explain. I sounded a little like Elton John when I made the original vocal recording back decades ago. I used LALALS to enhance that. Now, unless I try to "pitch" this to Elton John, I have a potential deep fake here, but upon closer listening, you can hear that when I sing "joined" (and other high notes) it was so unlike how Elton John would sing it that the illusion breaks right there, for me and most people.

The best way to use LALALS is to create unique voices by blending your voice with anyone other than who you sound like. Not only to avoid "deep-fakery" but to come up with something unique. Something I haven't done here. This is just for a little bit of "wow" factor in how it does sound like Elton when I'm not singing the tag. That's all LALALS.

Anyway, I hope you enjoy it. smile



Joined At the Fault

We live in a golden state
And agitate against our call
An inch of trust, a pinch of salt
A coupled crust
joined at the fault

Some people say there'll come a quake
To break us in its grand assault
It's true we move in our own way
Swayed by our love and
joined at the fault

Joined in our humanity
Our genius and insanity
In our imperfect passion
In our selfless compassion

We might be two tectonic plates
That days or centuries will reason
We'll relocate to our new fate
When comes the quaking season

But for now we're coupled thus
Within our treason and our trust
The movement of our love is all
Homed in our hearts and
joined at the fault

Joined in our humanity
Our genius and insanity
In our imperfect passion
In our selfless compassion

We live in a golden state
And agitate against our call
An inch of trust, a pinch of salt
A coupled crust
joined at the fault

*************************************************

(C) 1993, 2006, 2023 Michael Zaneski


I was remided of Triumphs, Magic Power by this. Wrong Ink



I like the mood it creates, even the software singers background vocals sound complimentary.

Prolly how it should be used, good work!

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Hey Dom,

I like the Triumph song and can see how my song reminded you of the beginning of their song.

The Synth V singers are definitely more convincing in the background, or at least demand far less tweaking to sound convincing.

Thanks (re:good work), I appreciate that! smile

Mike

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Another great song, Mike. How many more treasures do you have in that dusty old chest in your creative attic?

As for the Elton thing, there were moments when you seemed to don the platform shoes and big glasses and then others when you slipped them off. I'll have to read up on LALALS.

I really don't have anything to say except how much I enjoyed it.

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Id say it do well in any platform you put it in Mike . Spotify all them guys .

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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
Another great song, Mike. How many more treasures do you have in that dusty old chest in your creative attic?

As for the Elton thing, there were moments when you seemed to don the platform shoes and big glasses and then others when you slipped them off. I'll have to read up on LALALS.

I really don't have anything to say except how much I enjoyed it.


I have quite a few songs that were recorded back in the 4-track and 8-track era (1987-2004). Of them, maybe a third are worth a revisit. So stay tuned, lol.

Thanks Gavin. Zuckerberg got one thing right: sometimes "to like" is all that wants or needs to be expressed. I just think he missed out by not also including a "thanks" button, and perhaps a "feck off" button as well, haha...

But here's a good ol' pre-digital

thanks, smile

Mike

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"thanks" button, and perhaps a "feck off" button as well
That's funny

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Wonderful song and arrangement, Mike.

Vic


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Thanks, Vic!

I appreciate you stopping by and listening. smile

Mike


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Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

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from the song "Songs of Love"
from the album "Casanova" (1996)

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