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I used the Slow Jamz/house is not a home in my thinking

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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Mike...just make sure you don't go 7 deep....I'm 76 and I don't t think I'll have enough time....LOLOLOL

Steve


Haha...no, all this will help create a MUCH better gaming experience next time.

If I keep the game to just ONE connecting artist (and two songwriters) there can never be a simpler answer, and it will be more intuitively played, and therefore fun, I would hope.

If I do TWO, again, I will make "challenging" the puzzle a condition!


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Been lurking and totally appreciating your creativity here Michael...

I cannot pretend to know enough to play ....

Fun to see when the answer comes.

And Karen & Richard made amazing music that is instantly recognizable by someone my age.

They dominated their time with pop like Abba or Fleetwood Mac or....what a voice!

Thanks for putting them into the chain



John,

Come and join in and have some fun...you're a thinker and this game makes you think...and I've learned a ton of things I never knew before

Steve

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
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Mike...just make sure you don't go 7 deep....I'm 76 and I don't t think I'll have enough time....LOLOLOL

Steve


Haha...no, all this will help create a MUCH better gaming experience next time.

If I keep the game to just ONE connecting artist (and two songwriters) there can never be a simpler answer, and it will be more intuitively played, and therefore fun, I would hope.

If I do TWO, again, I will make "challenging" the puzzle a condition!


I liked this one a lot...it took a little bit of time to get my head around the flow, but after that I was OK

Steve


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Been lurking and totally appreciating your creativity here Michael...

I cannot pretend to know enough to play ....

Fun to see when the answer comes.

And Karen & Richard made amazing music that is instantly recognizable by someone my age.

They dominated their time with pop like Abba or Fleetwood Mac or....what a voice!

Thanks for putting them into the chain

Thanks for posting, John!


As to "knowing enough to play" --do you mean the "6 Degrees" concept alludes you, or your music history is lacking?

Neither should keep you away next time. If it's the latter, think of this as a way of getting really sharp with using wikipedia and other online tools, AND you get to learn some little bit of music history in the process.

If it's the former (which I don't think it is) I would be happy to explain the "6 degress" concept which is what drives the game play, clues, etc...

Thanks for lurking, I could sense you out there wink

Mike

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Mike wrote....

Neither should keep you away next time. If it's the latter, think of this as a way of getting really sharp with using wikipedia and other online tools, AND you get to learn some little bit of music history in the process

Boy is that true....I barely knew Laura Nyro but when I found out she wrote a song recorded by Blood Sweat And Tears (one of my all time favourite bands) I was really impressed and then to see the other stuff she wrote....impressive...that's what I love about this game

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And Karen & Richard made amazing music that is instantly recognizable by someone my age.

They dominated their time with pop like Abba or Fleetwood Mac or....what a voice!

I was stuck on Leon Russell and the Carpenters, so listened to A Song For You. Not close to the clues though but she did have a great voice. I read she recorded it in one take.

Mike, I didn’t know what that mileage clue and the moon was, but Peter Allen came up with the line when he was stuck on a plane at JFK. One story was that he was waiting to take off and the moon was between JFK and NYC. Another story says he was in a holding pattern. The clue didn’t throw me though because I was stuck listening to a Carpenter’s song that wasn’t in the mix…great game!

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And Karen & Richard made amazing music that is instantly recognizable by someone my age.

They dominated their time with pop like Abba or Fleetwood Mac or....what a voice!

I was stuck on Leon Russell and the Carpenters, so listened to A Song For You. Not close to the clues though but she did have a great voice. I read she recorded it in one take.

Mike, I didn’t know what that mileage clue and the moon was, but Peter Allen came up with the line when he was stuck on a plane at JFK. One story was that he was waiting to take off and the moon was between JFK and NYC. Another story says he was in a holding pattern. The clue didn’t throw me though because I was stuck listening to a Carpenter’s song that wasn’t in the mix…great game!

Craig, I'm glad you enjoyed the game, and next iteration will be streamlined and all kinks gone.

I didn't know that was Peter Allen's line! A much better one than the filler, "I know it's crazy/but it's true." And the thing is, no one can ever make an analogy/metaphor, like that, again, it can only be done once, and so Peter Allen got their first and OWNS that bit of songwriting real estate.

--I mean, between "Pluto and Poughkeepsie" won't cut it, especially after Peter Allen's. So okay, that line was never gonna cut it, but you get my drift. wink

Mike

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True about that line! Peter Allen has a “name that tune” connection I just read about. He hosted a pilot for CBS in 1990 that was not scheduled for the regular season.

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That's just too "full circle" for my brain to fathom...like...all roads lead to "Name That Tune", LOL...

I watched it and found Allen to be a fine host--he toned down the flamboyance enough to be mainstream, so am curious why this particular incarnation of NTT didn't get past the pilot stage--why no one picked it up. He would be dead from an AIDS related throat cancer less than two years after that pilot.

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…so am curious why this particular incarnation of NTT didn't get past the pilot stage--why no one picked it up.

Same here. Looking at it, the 1990-91 season had three CBS game shows during daytime TV: The Price is Right, Wheel of Fortune, and Family Feud. No prime time game shows. Seems like TV execs. try and use new shows to get ratings and to knock off competing shows in a particular time slot. The show moved to New Zealand I think?

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I think this is #95

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song was # 1 in a few countries, by different groups/singers...looking for the group that made it a bit of a North American hit....


Name the song, the songwriter, the band’s original and better known names

This song has an interesting backstory........


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I'm stumped. Researching this has been a scattershot affair, so far.


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Clue #1

Another band, that never made the song a hit, played it to keep the crowd happy....very confusing??

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Clue # 2

The song made the band famous, but the band never made the song famous....well sort of....even more confusing???


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Clue # 3

In one country the song peaked at #27 before it peaked at #1...huh???


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Clue # 4 (last before bedtime)

You might want to enlist the help of John Voorpostel...he might know something about it


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Are you having fun, Steve?


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Clue #1

Another band, that never made the song a hit, played it to keep the crowd happy....very confusing??

Did people go to their show expecting a different band? Note to self: look up bands named after (or similarly) to other recording artists, such as a band named "Isaac Haze."

Clue # 2

The song made the band famous, but the band never made the song famous....well sort of....even more confusing???

That could be the case if the song came from a show? The song would be famous, already, coming from a famous show (thinking out loud)

The first two clues also point to the possibility of a song co-opted by sports, such as "You'll Never Walk Alone" but one that actually has the right letters.

Clue # 3

In one country the song peaked at #27 before it peaked at #1...huh???

Well a song can't peak at two different numbers in the same country!

So your ellipses must mean "before it peaked at #1 in a different country" --or Belguim, France, ChooseYourPoison...

I'm guessing USA is #27 which matches "bit of a hit".

Clue # 4 (last before bedtime)

You might want to enlist the help of John Voorpostel...he might know something about it

Note to self: check song lists where taxes, accounting/accountants, and lurkers/lurking are themes... laugh (love you, John)

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I just checked off one of my bucket list items ... confuse Mike Zaneski...lol

Did people go to their show expecting a different band? Note to self: look up bands named after (or similarly) to other
recording artists, such as a band named "Isaac Hayes."

On the right track


Well a song can't peak at two different numbers in the same country! Yes it can HaHa

it peaked at #22 in the US

nothing to do with John's work/lurking....however...he may be a little prejudiced

Nothing to do with sports and "You'll Never Walk Alone" is not it....


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Clue # 5

One of the coolest promotions ever was about this song....


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Clue # 6

The song was the biggest single for the decade in which it was released in one of the countries


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So I am guessing you can't solve the riddle of how a song can peak, in the same country, at two different numbers, without revealing more than you want about the song?

Certainly, a song can re-enter the charts and climb higher, the second time around, but technically, isn't there still one "peak" --in this case the latter re-entry?

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I just checked off one of my bucket list items ... confuse Mike Zaneski...lol

Shame on you. wink

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Clue # 7

The lead singer of the band is considered one of the best voices ever in all of Rock, but he wasn't the lead on the song....


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So I am guessing you can't solve the riddle of how a song can peak, in the same country, at two different numbers, without revealing more than you want about the song?

Certainly, a song can re-enter the charts and climb higher, the second time around, but technically, isn't there still one "peak" --in this case the latter re-entry?

Assuming it's the same band/singer you'd be correct


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Mike ....follow up on clue #1 and it will lead you to it

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I just checked off one of my bucket list items ... confuse Mike Zaneski...lol

Shame on you.

I never said I had any morals...lolol


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Clue # 8

You'll know the song in about 1 -2 seconds


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To recap


Clue #1

Another band, that never made the song a hit, played it to keep the crowd happy....very confusing??

Clue # 2

The song made the band famous, but the band never made the song famous....well sort of....even more confusing???

Clue # 3

In one country the song peaked at #27 before it peaked at #1...huh???

Clue # 4 (last before bedtime)

You might want to enlist the help of John Voorpostel...he might know something about it

Clue # 5

One of the coolest promotions ever was about this song....

Clue # 6

The song was the biggest single for the decade in which it was released in one of the countries

Clue # 7

The lead singer of the band is considered one of the best voices ever in all of Rock, but he wasn't the lead on the song....

Clue # 8

You'll know the song in about 1 -2 seconds

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Clue #9

Van Morrison even covered the song...


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Clue # 10

An improvised song by this band became a monster #1 hit in the US...

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Clue #11

One of the band members left to form another great rock band


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Clue #12

The member who left the band had his guitar stolen in 1976....he got it back 45 years later...this should give it away


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Stymied, overwhelmed, humbled, humiliated, and [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed], [naughty word removed],

I am deeply, deeply empuzzled confused

-and highly irritated by the CONSTANT red underlining of actual words like "empuzzled." JPF needs a better internal dictionary, LOL.

Best puzzle yet, Steve. I just feel bad that Craig is missing out.

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You'll start to find the answer if you look north my friend


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I know you're having trouble guessing who it might be but I know you'll get it


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"Shakin' All Over" by "The Guess Who", original band name "Chad Allan and the Expressions" --and Johnny Kidd songwriter

note--Guy Robinson is listed as a songwriter, too, but maybe you forgot and left (GR) him out, I'm thinking. Too big a coincidence for this to not be the answer.

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Clue #1

Another band, that never made the song a hit, played it to keep the crowd happy....very confusing??

Fans thought The Who had recorded the song and kept asking for it

Clue # 2

The song made the band famous, but the band never made the song famous....well sort of....even more confusing???

The song was promoted by the Label as “Guess Who” is singing it to make people believe it was part of the English Invasion in the ‘60’s..the band then changed their name to “The Guess Who” The Guess Who never did sing the song as a recoring.

Clue # 3

In one country the song peaked at #27 before it peaked at #1...huh???

Australia...Chad Allen And The Expressions reached # 27 in early 1965 and Normie Rowe took it to #1 later with a cover of Johnny Chester’s version

Clue # 4 (last before bedtime)

You might want to enlist the help of John Voorpostel...he might know something about it...

John, being a Canadian should know a little bit about The Guess Who

Clue # 5

One of the coolest promotions ever was about this song....

The Label promoted the song all over N/A

Clue # 6

The song was the biggest single for the decade in which it was released in one of the countries....

Normie Rowe in Australia

Clue # 7

The lead singer of the band is considered one of the best voices ever in all of Rock, but he wasn't the lead on the song...

.Burton Cummings

Clue # 8

You'll know the song in about 1 -2 seconds...

great opening

Clue #9

Van Morrison even covered the song...

Clue # 10

An improvised song by this band became a monster #1 hit in the US...American Woman


Clue #11

One of the band members left to form another great rock band...Randy Bachman BTO

Clue #12

The member who left the band had his guitar stolen in 1976....he got it back 45 years later...this should give it away ....found by facial recognition on the internet (Youtube)

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You got it Mike!!

I apologize when I looked up the song on Wiki I saw Johnny Kidd..I guess I missed Guy


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Clue #1

Another band, that never made the song a hit, played it to keep the crowd happy....very confusing??

"You ain't the bloody Who! Get off the stage!!!" Then Burton turns to the band and goes, okay, boys, 1,2,3,4 "PEOPLE TRY TO PUT US D D D D DOWN..."

Clue # 2

The song made the band famous, but the band never made the song famous....well sort of....even more confusing???

Who actually made the song more famous? The Who? The original artist, Johnny Kidd?

Clue # 3

In one country the song peaked at #27 before it peaked at #1...huh???

Australia #27

Clue # 4 (last before bedtime)

You might want to enlist the help of John Voorpostel...he might know something about it

--cuz he's Canadian

Clue # 5

One of the coolest promotions ever was about this song....

???

Clue # 6

The song was the biggest single for the decade in which it was released in one of the countries

Maybe Canada?

Clue # 7

The lead singer of the band is considered one of the best voices ever in all of Rock, but he wasn't the lead on the song....

Burton Cummings Jr. He was THEE best, IMHO.

Clue # 10

An improvised song by this band became a monster #1 hit in the US...

American Woman

Clue #11

One of the band members left to form another great rock band

Randy Bachman (Bachman-Turner Overdrive)

Clue #12

The member who left the band had his guitar stolen in 1976....he got it back 45 years later...this should give it away

Randy Bachman

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I actually bought the CAATE album to learn the song but left it in the back widow of my car and it warped badly...threw it out...might be worth a couple of bucks today

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I had never heard of CAATE 'til your puzzle. In fact, if you had asked me yesterday who did "Shakin' All Over" --I would have said, "great song, but holy crap...who DID do that song?"

--my guess might've been "The Who" --and only because I bought "Live At Leeds" (crackling noises okay, LOL) album when I was 12 or something.

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Who actually made the song more famous? The Who? The original artist, Johnny Kidd?

Chad Allen And The Expressions made it famous in N/A, Johnny Rowe in Australia., Johnny Kidd in UK..I think The Who played it out of necessity...
I was looking for the band in N/A in my opening statement


Also here are a few other songs by The Guess Who

Stand Tall
These Eyes
No Sugar Tonight
American Woman
Clap For The Wolfman
Share The Land
No Time
Undun


Why aren't these guys in The RRHOF????


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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
I had never heard of CAATE 'til your puzzle. In fact, if you had asked me yesterday who did "Shakin' All Over" --I would have said, "great song, but holy crap...who DID do that song?"

--my guess might've been "The Who" --and only because I bought "Live At Leeds" (crackling noises okay, LOL) album when I was 12 or something.


That's why I thought the song had a great backstory....who knows what would have happened without the promo...which I remember when it was going on


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"Laughing" is great, too. Bachman and Cummings Jr. had a European sensibility to their melodies and compositions. Listen to "Undun," "Laughing" (at least the verses), and "These Eyes" --NO ONE wrote like that, outside of Europe. Those are the ones I consider their best, with "No Time" being a close fourth.

They most definitely deserve to be in The RRHOF.

Steve, best puzzle yet, but sorry Craig wasn't around. Maybe I'll PM him next time, if his PM's are hooked up to his email, he might want to be alerted...

Oh, and I had never seen this (the ad I think you were referring to):



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Oh, and I had never seen this (the ad I think you were referring to):

Actually the promo was interesting...the song was being played by DJ's everywhere and they were told to ask the listeners to figure out who was singing it by saying..."guess who is singing it"...trying to hype it as a British band...when it was revealed as CAATE, the DJ"s kept on saying Guess Who...eventually the band gave in and changed their name....Chad Allen left and the rest is history

Don't forget Mike we're talking 1965....Canada had maybe 5 TV stations...lol radio was king

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Although not with The Guess Who I love this song by Cummings



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Beautiful song. "Stand Tall" is my solo favorite of his.


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Forgot all about laughing




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Listen to that verse melody! The augmented 5th...that's advanced stuff for rock. They were listening to Bacharach and Webb and European writers like Brel, to come up with that verse melody.

Love this song.

In a boxing ring with The Bee Gee's "I Started A Joke" I might be in a minority to like "Laughing" better. ISAJ is a bit too melodramatic for me.

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