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congrats Craig/Mike the JPF name that tune team champions....I had a blast with this

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I wasn't sure if the collaboration thing was going to work, but it seemed to...I'll take a breather now...gotta think up another one...LOL

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Thanks, Steve. As I told Craig, I read "I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt" several times last night, in that list I posted of six-word-song-titles, but was tired and looking for a song that was obviously about a crime.

Next time I post a mystery song (in a few days or maybe a week or so) it's gonna be in this format. Very challenging!

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quote=Michael Zaneski]Thanks, Steve. As I told Craig, I read "I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt" several times last night, in that list I posted of six-word-song-titles, but was tired and looking for a song that was obviously about a crime.

Next time I post a mystery song (in a few days or maybe a week or so) it's gonna be in this format. Very challenging![/quote]

Wait Mike ....I haven't quite learned how to operate my new quantum computer...OMG have I unleashed a monster...LOLOLOL

Back to you John

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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Thanks, Steve. As I told Craig, I read "I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt" several times last night, in that list I posted of six-word-song-titles, but was tired and looking for a song that was obviously about a crime.

Next time I post a mystery song (in a few days or maybe a week or so) it's gonna be in this format. Very challenging!

Wait Mike ....I haven't quite learned how to operate my new quantum computer...OMG have I unleashed a monster...LOLOLOL

Back to you John

Steve[/quote]

LMAO...thanks for that...and thanks for the great puzzle!

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
Thanks, Steve. As I told Craig, I read "I Can't Make You Love Me by Bonnie Raitt" several times last night, in that list I posted of six-word-song-titles, but was tired and looking for a song that was obviously about a crime.

Next time I post a mystery song (in a few days or maybe a week or so) it's gonna be in this format. Very challenging!

Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Wait Mike ....I haven't quite learned how to operate my new quantum computer...OMG have I unleashed a monster...LOLOLOL

Back to you John

Steve

LMAO...thanks for that...and thanks for the great puzzle!

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You know, Mike...you could ask AI to create one for you ...I'm just saying....


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
You know, Mike...you could ask AI to create one for you ...I'm just saying....

What would be the fun in that?

I have to admit, I got a tad verbally abusive...with ChatGPT last night...I asked it to give me Names of artists with first initial "R" and second initial "M" and it would give me one, then any ol' last name beginning with any letter. And ChatGPT was apologizing, but still not able to follow this simple instruction for more than a few names in a row, and I began to feel guilty cuz I was saying "NO!!! THE LAST NAME MUST BEGIN WITH AN "M"!!!", and it kept apologizing, ...then I apologized to it...LOL...man that was weird!

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
Originally Posted by VNORTH2
You know, Mike...you could ask AI to create one for you ...I'm just saying....

What would be the fun in that?

I have to admit, I got a tad verbally abusive...with ChatGPT last night...I asked it to give me Names of artists with first initial "R" and second initial "M" and it would give me one, then any ol' last name beginning with any letter. And ChatGPT was apologizing, but still not able to follow this simple instruction for more than a few names in a row, and I began to feel guilty, cuz it was apologizing, ...then I apologized to it...LOL...man that was weird!

Now that's funny.....


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Originally Posted by Craig Allen

This is my favorite kind of feeling for this game--in that sweet spot, for me, where I can hum the ENTIRE song, but cannot name it for the life of me! I am not hearing any words (in my mind)...could this be an instrumental? (thinking to myself...)

And I keep seeing a covered wagon...that is probably going down a blind alley in the wild west, haha...

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Better than me Michael.! I can't take it any further than what Craig provided. Well, I could if I turned it in to an original.

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Sounds a lot like Washington Square


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That's it...

honestly...wasn't hearing the banjo playing tremolo like a mandolin, but was hearing a trumpet, so was thinking Al Hirt.

But other than that, was hearing the ENTIRE melody, including the modulation. Ha!

Would NEVER have guessed it, though. Must've been burnt into my memory as a 5 year old, cuz that's how old I was in '63.

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Washington Square is correct! Congrats Steve! Written by Bob Goldsteinn and David Shire. An instrumental released in 1963 by the Village Stompers, reaching No. 2 I think. Mike almost had it!

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LOL ...When I heard the clip...the banjo at the start came to mind immediately..I googled what I thought the name might be and then heard the guitar opening the song...I'm always amazed how our minds dig deep into our past...who needs AI LOLOL

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honestly...wasn't hearing the banjo playing tremolo

I was looking for “Banjo” on our granddaughter’s practice piano and it didn’t have one. I think the banjo would have given it away for sure!

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I didn't remember the tail end when it goes into ragtime. Just the first 2/3rds sounding all "wagon wheels" LOL...

Steve, you must be a few years older than me to have pulled that one out, song title and all. Congrats! Not on being older, haha...on naming it! I just played through a list of Sixties intrumentals on youtube, I was on the right track, but it was NOT on that list. Damn!!

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'63 ...let me see ..yes I was a veteran of 16 at the time....Washington Square was a pretty big song back then


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I didn't remember the tail end when it goes into ragtime. Just the first 2/3rds sounding all "wagon wheels" LOL...

The Village Stompers, according to wiki, was a Dixieland band who ended up in Greenwich Village. I guess I should post the song.

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By the way, Wikipedia spells his name Bobb Goldsteinn, two B’s two n’s. (Goldstein being one of the writers of the song). And has this strange paragraph about him:

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In the fall of 1968, Goldsteinn returned to songwriting and crafted the lyrics for "Canterbury Road" to a melody by Curt Boettcher and friends. The song was written for pop singer Lou Christie and while it was not formally released, Roy Hallee made a copy of the mix and took it to Paul Simon; a few months later, "Bridge over Troubled Water" appeared. All master tape copies of "Canterbury Road" disappeared until 1990–1991, when an in-flight audiotape was found in a Dutch flea market. The song was finally released on a Lou Christie import album called Glory River in 1992.

This doesn’t even have a ‘citation needed’. The next paragraph scoots off into talking about Andy Warhol. Anyone ever heard of ‘Bridge’ being a derivation of another song? (Actually, there is an indirect allegation of some song stealing here.)

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By the way, Wikipedia spells his name Bobb Goldsteinn, two B’s two n’s. (Goldstein being one of the writers of the song). And has this strange paragraph about him:

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In the fall of 1968, Goldsteinn returned to songwriting and crafted the lyrics for "Canterbury Road" to a melody by Curt Boettcher and friends. The song was written for pop singer Lou Christie and while it was not formally released, Roy Hallee made a copy of the mix and took it to Paul Simon; a few months later, "Bridge over Troubled Water" appeared. All master tape copies of "Canterbury Road" disappeared until 1990–1991, when an in-flight audiotape was found in a Dutch flea market. The song was finally released on a Lou Christie import album called Glory River in 1992.

This doesn’t even have a ‘citation needed’. The next paragraph scoots off into talking about Andy Warhol. Anyone ever heard of ‘Bridge’ being a derivation of another song? (Actually, there is an indirect allegation of some song stealing here.)

Listened to "Canterbury Road" --absolutely no musical connection to "Bridge Over Troubled Water." Christie's voice on this, in its upper register, does remind me of a slightly pitchy Art Garfunkel, though.

I've never seen or heard anything about any part of BOTW being lifted from any other work.



But Simon has had some shady dealings. It's well known he "lifted" Martin Carthy's guitar arrangement of "Scarborough Fair." Simon happened to be in England when Carthy was performing his well known version (of the traditional tune) off his debut album. Never even mentioned Carthy in the "Parsley, Sage, Rosemary and Thyme" liner notes.



Los Lobos got paid "scale" and were not credited for composing most the music on the song "All Around the World or the Myth of Fingerprints" off of Simon's "Graceland." "Sue me," Simon said, when they asked him about it:

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/los...aul-simon-a-jerk-alleges-graceland-snub/

So it wouldn't have surpised me if Simon had ripped off Lou Christie. Good to hear some later year LC from the "Lighning Strikes" guy, even if we're just talkin' '68.

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Listened to about a minute of “Canterbury…” and it’s nothing like Bridge. Pretty cheesy song. Los Lobos expressed some regret they didn’t sue Simon. Didn’t have any recordings to proved ownership. I guess the whole band as witnesses wasn’t enuf? Mystery Tune #37 is next!

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Here's Mystery Tune #37: Mystery Tune #37

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Very familiar. Feels like another instrumental...maybe the theme to a TV series...like a second cousin to Mr. Ed, haha...thinking out loud...

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Leave It To Beaver (Theme Song)

I honestly should NOT have had "Leave It To Beaver" just pop into my head...I must've seen the show in syndication as a toddler...lucky guess...

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Wow, that was quick! Michael wins. BTW, the actual title of this tune is "The Toy Parade".

Best, John smile

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Thanks, John...I'll post one in a few minutes...


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When I was a kid, KHJ radio in Los Angeles would occasionally have a contest where they would mix several songs together and the person that named the most would be declared the winner.

This is a variation on that, let's call it "Wall-Of-Sound Contest."

You will hear about 7 seconds of audio. There are seven five songs (left), all starting at the very beginning. I mix them in a way that each song has a "giveaway" moment. Points can only be scored by being the first person to name any of the songs. Each player should name as many as they can as soon as they can!

3 wrong song titles will result in disqualification!

The scoring goes like this:

First song named, 1 point
Second song named: 2 points
Third song named: 3 points
Fourth song named 5 points
Fifth song named: 8 points
Sixth song named: 13 points
Seventh Song named 21 points

Person with the most points wins!

FIRST CLUE: every song title has the name of a place in its title.

Additional clues will come when there's just a few songs left, and everyone seems stumped to go further...

As songs are named, I will remove them from the cacaphony, until the audio is thin enough that all songs are perceptible.

Best of luck to everyone!

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Well I listened about ten times..........I recognize a couple melodies but can't put a title to them. My ears don't "discern" as well as they used to I'm afraid. I'm still pondering a couple of the melodies and will get back ASAP if one comes to me.

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Originally Posted by E Swartz
Well I listened about ten times..........I recognize a couple melodies but can't put a title to them. My ears don't "discern" as well as they used to I'm afraid. I'm still pondering a couple of the melodies and will get back ASAP if one comes to me.

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Thanks, Eddie. I'm sure you can name at least a few. Listen with headphones if at all possible.


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One came to me......."It never rains in southern California" at the end.

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I can name two: “Seattle” sung by Perry Como and others, and “It Never Rains in Southern California” by Albert Hammond. That’s only 3 points. No clue on the rest, so I’m heading for the clubhouse with, I think, 3 points!

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Correct!

Eddie has struck first blood!

I will remove it from "the mix"

Score: Eddie 1
everyone else: 0


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Craig, you JUST MISSED with "It Never Rains In Southern California"

but take the lead with guessing "Seattle" by Perry Como!

Score:

Craig:2
Eddie:1

Back with an "updated file" in less than an hour. Those songs will be gone from the mix, making it easier to hear the rest!

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New link:

https://soundcloud.com/michael-zane...ium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

5 songs left...

File will remain unchanged, at least until tomorrow sometime. smile


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I'm guessing on the strong snare sound.......Let'm in? by: Wings I recognize one other, but can't think of it yet.

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Originally Posted by E Swartz
I'm guessing on the strong snare sound.......Let'm in? by: Wings I recognize one other, but can't think of it yet.

eddie

No Eddie. Remember: All songs have a "place" in the title, like "Southern California" in the Albert Hammond Song. Be careful: 3 wrong guesses results in a disqualification. I hope you are using the "updated" links with just 5 songs left, easier, as I have deleted the original that had 7 songs, since 2 songs were guessed correctly:

https://soundcloud.com/michael-zaneski/untitled4/s-Bmq3jP7TaQs?si=9962dd41948842e2b0f1faf09d28e8a3

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Will await more clues…can’t place anything.

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When I was a kid, KHJ radio in Los Angeles would occasionally have a contest where they would mix several songs together and the person that named the most would be declared the winner.

This is a variation on that, let's call it "Wall-Of-Sound Contest."

You will hear about 7 seconds of audio. There are seven five songs (left), all starting at the very beginning. I mix them in a way that each song has a "giveaway" moment. Points can only be scored by being the first person to name any of the songs. Each player should name as many as they can as soon as they can!

3 wrong song titles will result in disqualification!

The scoring goes like this:

First song named, 1 point
Second song named: 2 points
Third song named: 3 points
Fourth song named 5 points
Fifth song named: 8 points
Sixth song named: 13 points
Seventh Song named 21 points

Person with the most points wins!

FIRST CLUE: every song title has the name of a place, such as a city, state, or country in its title.

Additional clues will come when there's just a few songs left, and everyone seems stumped to go further...

As songs are named, I will remove them from the cacaphony, until the audio is thin enough that all songs are perceptible.

Best of luck to everyone![/quote]

Okay, here's a clue to the most obscure song in the 5 song cacaphony.

It starts us off on our trip, halfway across the Northern Hemisphere.

We start where our last "guessed" song left us off: in Southern California.

The next song title has the name of a city in it that is about 140 miles southeast of Southern California. Mostly south, a tad east.

The bandleader/band was prolific, scoring numerous #1 albums and Top 40 INSTRUMENTAL hits, mostly in THE SIXTIES. The bandleader had a #1 hit as a solo artist where he sings.

Because I am restricting the audio to the very beginnings/intros of these songs, this particular song is hard to hear in this mix as it's a simple drum pattern punctuated by a couple honking sounds.

Guess this song and I'll take it out-of-the cacaphony, making the remaining 4 easier to hear.

https://soundcloud.com/michael-zane...ium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

The score so far:

Craig 2
Eddie 1

Two songs named, 5 to go...

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See above post for most relevant information.

NEW CLUES:

Song 1) about 150 miles southeast of Southern California. Mostly south, slightly east.
Song 2) about 1500 miles northeast of last location. Mostly east, slighlty north.
Song 3) about 1400 miles northeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly north.
Song 4) about 3400 miles northeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly north.
Song 5) about 5000 miles southeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly south.*

*This city, state, or country goes by a different name now. Similar, but instead of beginning with a "C" as it does in song 5, it begins with a "K" now...


Remember: all songs have the name of a city, state, or country in their title. The audio is the first several seconds of the five songs played all-at-the-same-time.


https://soundcloud.com/michael-zane...ium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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VNORTH2/Steve...where are you? I think you'd enjoy this game. smile

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I'm thinking the bandleader is Herb Alpert


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
I'm thinking the bandleader is Herb Alpert

Good to see you!

If that were true, what would be a Top 40 hit they had that names (as PART of the songs title) a city, state, or country 150 miles southeast (mostly south, slighly east) of Southern California, and where, in the songs introduction, 2 honking sounds are heard?

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Oh...I'm suppose to get all of that as well... if, in fact, it is HA...LOL

I am definitely hearing the honking...hahaha


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Tijuana Taxi


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Steve:

All 5 songs are hidden in plain sight, in this audio clip you will hear 7 seconds of intro of ALL 5 playing at the same time. They ALL name a city, state, or county as part of their title, and can be geographically located following this guide:

Song 1) about 150 miles southeast of Southern California. Mostly south, slightly east.
Song 2) about 1450 miles northeast of last location.
Song 3) about 1400 miles northeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly north.
Song 4) about 3400 miles northeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly north.
Song 5) about 5000 miles southeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly south.*

*This city, state, or country goes by a different name now. Similar, but instead of beginning with a "C" as it does in song 5, it begins with a "K" now...

here's the 5 song clip:

https://soundcloud.com/michael-zane...ium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing

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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
Tijuana Taxi

Tijuana Taxi is correct!

Steve forges into the lead. The score:

Steve 3
Craig 2
Eddie 1

********************************************************************************************************************************************
I will now swap out the audio so that there are only 4 intros playing simultaneously...

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It's best to play the game using the audio. Just 4 remaining songs; the cacaphony is thinning substantially!

There's the name of a city, state, or country that makes up (at least) part of the title of each of the remaining 4 songs:

Song 2) about 1450 miles northeast of Tijuana.
Song 3) about 1400 miles northeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly north.
Song 4) about 3400 miles northeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly north.
Song 5) about 5000 miles southeast of last location. Mostly east, slightly south.*
*This city, state, or country goes by a different name now. Similar, but instead of beginning with a "C" as it does in song 5, it begins with a "K" now...

I will add a written hint for song 2 if there's no further progress in a few hours or so...

But anyone feel free to name ALL 4 remaining songs, if you can!

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