Who's Online Now
6 members (bennash, couchgrouch, Gavin Sinclair, Guy E. Trepanier, Gary E. Andrews, Everett Adams), 4,513 guests, and 364 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
What's Going On
Remo Drive
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/07/23 08:38 AM
Lions Shadow
by bennash - 12/06/23 10:39 PM
Inspirational Videos Post Them Here
by Sunset Poet - 12/06/23 08:18 PM
Life will correct you
by bennash - 12/06/23 06:54 PM
Landing
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/06/23 04:48 PM
Keeping it Cool
by bennash - 12/06/23 04:14 PM
Rumba Cafe
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/06/23 12:21 PM
Leafs
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/06/23 11:20 AM
"Dwell"
by bennash - 12/06/23 09:55 AM
Grove of Pike County
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/05/23 10:33 PM
Railbird Festival, 2024
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/05/23 05:37 PM
Could this be what love is like
by ckiphen - 12/05/23 03:00 PM
Why Should I Care
by bennash - 12/05/23 12:58 PM
Carla Olson, McCabe's Guitar Shop, Santa Monica
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/05/23 11:41 AM
Don't Call Me
by bennash - 12/05/23 11:10 AM
InCollusion - Ain't it Sad
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/05/23 07:25 AM
Don't Dwell on that
by Bill Draper - 12/04/23 03:41 PM
Lisa Lynn and the Broken Hallelujahs
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/03/23 10:24 PM
4 Artists
by Guy E. Trepanier - 12/03/23 07:19 PM
Overflowing (2023 Version)
by Gavin Sinclair - 12/03/23 01:42 PM
Vegas Valley Drive
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/03/23 05:36 AM
Bluegrass Barrel House, Richmond, KY
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/03/23 05:31 AM
Hot Club of CDA, Coeur d'Alene
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/03/23 05:13 AM
Snuts
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/03/23 05:01 AM
Boise Blues Society
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/03/23 04:55 AM
Matt Warfield, Ventura, CA
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/03/23 04:45 AM
Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival, Manchester, TN
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/02/23 07:17 PM
A Graveside Flower
by Rob B. - 12/02/23 04:42 AM
Bluebird Music Festival, Boulder
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/01/23 10:24 PM
Musica Mexilachian, Cantina Ixtaccihuatl
by Gary E. Andrews - 12/01/23 05:31 PM
Top Posters
Calvin 19,857
Travis david 12,264
Kevin Emmrich 10,938
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Two Singers 9,649
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 9,003
glynda 8,683
Mike Dunbar 8,574
Tricia Baker 8,318
couchgrouch 8,137
Colin Ward 7,911
Corey 7,357
Vicarn 6,913
Mark Kaufman 6,589
ben willis 6,114
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,725
Linda Sings 5,608
KimberlyinNC 5,210
Neil Cotton 4,909
Derek Hines 4,893
Fdemetrio 4,817
DonnaMarilyn 4,670
Blake Hill 4,528
Bob Cushing 4,389
Roy Cooper 4,271
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Tom Shea 4,195
Cindy Miller 4,178
TamsNumber4 4,171
MFB III 4,143
nightengale 4,096
Sunset Poet 4,094
E Swartz 3,982
beechnut79 3,878
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,845
Dan Sullivan 3,710
JAPOV 3,626
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
Bill Cooper 3,279
John Hoffman 3,199
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
Nigel Quin 2,891
PopTodd 2,890
Harriet Ames 2,870
MidniteBob 2,761
Nelson 2,616
Tom Tracy 2,558
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,246
Wendy D 2,235
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
maccharles 2,134
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,041
DukeWill 2,002
floyd jane 1,985
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
David Wright 1,866
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Iggy 1,652
Noel Downs 1,633
Rick Heenan 1,608
Cal 1,574
GocartMoz 1,559
Jack Swain 1,554
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
RogerS 1,481
Tom Franz 1,473
Chuck Crowe 1,441
Ralph Blight 1,440
Rick Norton 1,429
Kenneth Cade 1,429
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,409
in2piano 1,404
Stan Simons 1,402
Deej56 1,385
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,373
Charlie Wong 1,347
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Tom W. 1,313
Jan Petter 1,301
scottandrew 1,294
lane1777 1,280
Gerry 1,280
DakLander 1,265
IronKnee 1,262
PeteG 1,242
Ian Ferrin 1,235
Glen King 1,214
IdeaGuy 1,209
VNORTH2 1,187
AaronAuthier 1,177
summeoyo 1,174
Diane Ewing 1,162
ckiphen 1,102
joro 1,082
BobbyJoe 1,075
S.DEE 1,040
yann 1,037
9ne 1,035
Tony A 1,016
argo 986
peaden 984
90 dB 964
Wolvman 960
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
Drifter 886
Petra 883
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Nadia 829
ant 798
Juan 797
TKO 784
Dayson 781
frahmes 781
teletwang 762
Andy K 750
Andy Kemp 746
tbryson 737
Jackie444 731
Irwin 715
3daveyO3 704
Dixie 701
Joy Boy 695
Pat Hardy 690
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
Moosesong 668
Katziis 652
R.T.MOORE 638
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
R&M 614
Mel 614
NaomiSue 601
Shandy 590
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
bennash 574
qbaum 570
nitepiano 566
pRISCILLA 556
Tink2 553
musica 539
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
BonzaiWag 523
Roderic 522
BB Wilbur 513
goodfolks 499
Zeek 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
fanito 448
trush48 448
dmk 442
Rob L 439
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
VNORTH 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 399
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Alek 386
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
Ann_F 379
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
java 374
ddreuter 371
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Jim Ryan 360
papaG 353
Z - man 350
Rob B. 349
JamesDF5 348
John K 348
Jaden 344
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
ONOFFON 312
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 294
markus-ky 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
Char 286
ktunes 285
Top Likes Received
JAPOV 69
VNORTH2 43
bennash 24
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#613353 05/07/08 12:22 AM
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,413
A
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
A
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,413
Hey does anyone have anything to say about Nashville Song Services, I googled them
and it wasn't clear if they were a song shark or legit, they said my "Beautys in the eyes"
lyric scored high enough for a "co write", it says everything will be 50/50 yet I have to pay for the whole
demo cost and that it would probably take 10 weeks, and that they'd pitch it.. sounds like a good deal
I'm not sure if they use recyled melodies or what, but If we were collaborating I wouldn't have to pay right,
I thought that's what a work for hire was, I know I should find a collaborator on forums but I haven't been able to
Any advice or knowledge? Thank you very much

Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 7,037
Likes: 14
Top 40 Poster
Online Content
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 7,037
Likes: 14
I think if you do a search on this site you will find unfavourable remarks on this company. A demo shop that charges you for doing the demo and takes a cut of your song is frowned upon to say the least.


The more you taste the bitterness of defeat, the sweeter final victory will be

May the flowers of love forever bloom in your garden of life

http://www.soundclick.com/newsflashsounds

http://www.soundclick.com/newsflashgospel

www.cdbaby.com/all/eca333

www.showcaseyourmusic.com/newsflashsounds
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,831
Top 30 Poster
Offline
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,831
Hi Airun:

Head for the exits.

Dave

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,412
R
Top 30 Poster
Offline
Top 30 Poster
R
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,412
Those "Song Services" that tell you your lyrics are good enough to demo but want a part of the song are what is referred to as a Scam. They may send you a "Contract" to sign but it isn't worth the paper it is written on and they will never bother to demand anything if the song hits it big. The contract is just to suck you in to use their service. Yesterday I looked at an issue of Country Weekly. There are a few ads in there of people seeking songs. All fit the description of Shady. They are all legal but are like "Song Mills" that will demo anything you send if it is barely good enough.

There are a lot of good demo services in Nashville, albit some are expensive. Look on the Source List on the General Board here at JP Folks for a few. You may find others by Googleing Demo Services.

Before you have a song demoed you may want to get some opinions on one of the lyric boards here at JP Folks.

There are some legimite demo services that will co-write on promising lyrics if you agree but it is better if you work up your own melody and don't split a song.


Ray E. Strode
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,413
A
Top 200 Poster
OP Offline
Top 200 Poster
A
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,413
Hey thanks Everett, Dave and Ray, yeah I looked them up, it doesn't look that good for them, I emailed them asking a lot of questions, I'll post the gist of what they said if they email me back
Thank you

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,401
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,401
It's a "co-write" but YOU pay for the cost of the demo. There's the red flag right there.


Vikki Flawith: Songwriter/Composer, Singer/Voice Teacher

12Feb10- *NEW BLOG: "BE YOUR OWN GURU ;)"

MY STORY & MY MUSIC: http://www.vikkiflawith.com
Be a FAN: http://www.reverbnation.com/vikkiflawith
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
S
Serious Contributor
Offline
Serious Contributor
S
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
"your lyric scored high enough for a co write" Thats so funny. Whats the scale for the scoring exactly? Did you ask what score you got? Anyway...Normally I would say, stay away it's a terrible scam...But you obviously just write lyrics, right. You do the lyrics, They write the music, and split it evenly down the middle. For some reason I can't wrap my brain around why that sounds bad. All my co-writes are 50/50 unless there is a third person. But they want to pay for the demo alone. That's not right. Tell you what This Is What You Do...tell them if they believe in the song, you will pay for your half of the demo. So whatever amount they shoot you, you can pay half of it. That way you get a good deal, and you make those shady people know you don't play like that.

""but If we were collaborating I wouldn't have to pay right""

Well sort of, but not exactly....you wouldn't have to pay for them to write the music...you would obviously have to pay for half of the demo.

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,827
Top 50 Poster
Offline
Top 50 Poster
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,827
Hey airun,

Run ! It's a demo service. You bear the total cost and give away 50% in the process. It's a scam.

cheers, niteshift

Joined: May 2008
Posts: 69
Serious Contributor
Offline
Serious Contributor
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 69
I would suggest trying the demo company I use, for a little over $300.00 they will not only compose music for your lyrics on a "work for hire" basis which gives you 100% of the copyrights on the music, they also cut the demo, send you a Multi-track Master, a CD of your song and the soundtrack, chord sheet and MP3downloadable version of the song and soundtrack... when they give you the demo its YOUR SONG! No splitting royalties.
If you wish to learn more go to: www.EASTCRAFTDEMOS.COM
Hope this helps.


If I write from my heart, the song will have life. If heart felt music is added, it allows my words to touch hearts, then it has hope. And if it sung by a voice that the music and words truely touch, it will have a soul, and if it has a soul it will touch thousands!
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
S
Serious Contributor
Offline
Serious Contributor
S
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
That's a good price. Getting the files from the session is a major plus. That way you can keep the drums from the session and use it for other demos. I have all the drums I track, or have from any sessions. I can also put the instruments into Melodyne, and I can change the key, pitch, tempo, or just about anything imaginable. Hey Michael, if you don't mind me asking...why do you send your demos all the way out to NC when you live in Nashville?

Edit : "Base price includes male lead vocal, background vocals, full instrumentation
mastered for radio to your choice of CD, MD, Cassette or MP3 Down Load: $140.00US "

So if you write your music too, it is $140 for a full mastered studio demo. Thats pretty cheap man.

Last edited by stevens119; 06/09/08 04:58 AM.
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 3
K
Casual Observer
Offline
Casual Observer
K
Joined: May 2021
Posts: 3
It is a demo service, avoid that!


Link Copied to Clipboard
Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.


Newest Members
yasir252, cathennashira, Samwise, HappySousa, Jasmine_Kurb
21,469 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums117
Topics125,441
Posts1,159,624
Members21,469
Most Online37,523
Jan 25th, 2020
Just Plain Quotes
"Talent + Drive + Knowledge = Success" –Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
Paul Mascott (56)
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5