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Has anybody noticed many youtube comments are disabled from commenting now? Not all but many are going that way.

Is it the comments are hurting the user?? I kind of doubt that, negative comments made rebecca black a star for her disasterous HIT song, lol. Poor gal, didnt deserve the treatment, but im sure she made a mint on views from youtube. All fueled by negative comments

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it is a user or provider discretion.

The user can disable comments generally. I believe that they can also target a commenter.
YouTube retains all rights regarding content.

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I know that, the point being its being done more now, or seems to be. Even instructional videos

Just saw my boy James Maddocks new album, his comments are disabled too. WHat a shame this guy is so freakin talented as a singer songwriter, and hell never be a star. better 90% of stuff on radio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO5Fs8G0smQ

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It doesnt seem very prevalent to me at the sites that I visit.
Seems the same as it always has.

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Yesterday was Thursday
Today it is Friday
We, we, we. we so excited
We gonna have a ball today
Tomorrow is Saturday
And Sunday comes afterwards....

Genius.

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lol, 151 MILLION views

dont try that at home. if not for the negative comments shed have a few hundred

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There is the old phrase that opinions are like a-holes, everyone has them. The big tech company heads look to be determine over speech and dissent.
It is not too surprising that who attempts performing arts would get thrown in to that mix..

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I just watched that Rebecca Black video. I don't get it. Why is that video so hated? Just looks like a typical teenager making music to me. It's not really my style but it seems like fairly typical pop music.

YouTube automatically closes comments now for any videos that are marked viewable for anyone (children included). You have to mark videos for adults to even allow comments on YouTube now. Basically because people can't be trusted to act like decent human beings on the internet, so they can't let kids see just anything that gets typed.

There is really no value to having comments on videos, in my opinion. Other than giving people a place to engage each other on the topic. Generally speaking, no matter what the content is, there is always someone who will hate something, especially if someone else loves it.


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It's people making fun of it because the girl's daddy paid for it so that his daughter could be a pop star. All the mockery just took off because of that. It is pretty excruciating, but I don't think it would have received so much unfortunate attention and gone viral but for that.

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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
It's people making fun of it because the girl's daddy paid for it so that his daughter could be a pop star. All the mockery just took off because of that. It is pretty excruciating, but I don't think it would have received so much unfortunate attention and gone viral but for that.


Funny how it is...that we live in a society where people have a melt down neurotic fit if someone tells them that they are fat or anything else that they dont want to hear. As if to promote the hoax that they are in the throes of achieving a perfected bliss where everyone is happy all the time.

Yet...it seems to be the same population of people who are the snarkiest, most backbiting, most scheming and insidious and most condemning of any population during my lifetime.

This has been a public service announcement brought you by the "MUSINGS OF A FOOL SOCIETY." wink

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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
It's people making fun of it because the girl's daddy paid for it so that his daughter could be a pop star. All the mockery just took off because of that. It is pretty excruciating, but I don't think it would have received so much unfortunate attention and gone viral but for that.


That just doesn't compute with me. I can't think of a reason to hate something, just because another person's family spent money and had the opportunity to make something. That reeks of envy for people to be that way. Almost everything on the planet takes money spent to make. That includes studio time to record and paying a film crew to professionally make a video. Someone investing to promote something they love is no reason for other people to feel insecure about what they are doing, which in my opinion is exactly what happened in this situation.

I just looked her up. Her father is a veterinarian. Hardly filthy rich. They only paid $4,000 to record the song and make the video. That's not that much money, really. There are plenty of parents who buy their kids new cars, hand them credit cards to spend easily that much or more every year on worthless crap. At least she used the money to make music/art. This girl had to leave her school as a kid and change schools because of bullying. It kind of bums me out that anyone could be so negative toward a kid like this, over something like a song. She seems to be doing just fine now. I looked at her YouTube page. She has 1.5 million subs and routinely is releasing music with positive feedback.

I just had an interesting thought. If she removed the ability for people to see how many likes or dislikes, I wonder if as many people would have disliked the video? Misery loves company, especially on public display. Do people show as much outrage if no one else can notice?


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Originally Posted by DonnieWitt
Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
It's people making fun of it because the girl's daddy paid for it so that his daughter could be a pop star. All the mockery just took off because of that. It is pretty excruciating, but I don't think it would have received so much unfortunate attention and gone viral but for that.


That just doesn't compute with me. I can't think of a reason to hate something, just because another person's family spent money and had the opportunity to make something. That reeks of envy for people to be that way. Almost everything on the planet takes money spent to make. That includes studio time to record and paying a film crew to professionally make a video. Someone investing to promote something they love is no reason for other people to feel insecure about what they are doing, which in my opinion is exactly what happened in this situation.

I just looked her up. Her father is a veterinarian. Hardly filthy rich. They only paid $4,000 to record the song and make the video. That's not that much money, really. There are plenty of parents who buy their kids new cars, hand them credit cards to spend easily that much or more every year on worthless crap. At least she used the money to make music/art. This girl had to leave her school as a kid and change schools because of bullying. It kind of bums me out that anyone could be so negative toward a kid like this, over something like a song. She seems to be doing just fine now. I looked at her YouTube page. She has 1.5 million subs and routinely is releasing music with positive feedback.

I just had an interesting thought. If she removed the ability for people to see how many likes or dislikes, I wonder if as many people would have disliked the video? Misery loves company, especially on public display. Do people show as much outrage if no one else can notice?

No argument from me. I'm not defending hateful comments. You said you didn't get it, so I tried to explain, not justify the reaction to the video. I do think the lyrics are excruciating in places, though and the video is extremely cheesy, so people were bound to make fun of it, I'm afraid. Next thing you know, you have a viral meme on your hands. They do say that there's no such thing as bad publicity, so maybe she has had the last laugh as she has made a career out of the notoriety she derived from having "the worst song ever."

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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
I'm not defending hateful comments


I know. I didn't say you were. I was reacting to the thought that people hated that her "daddy paid for the song"... and I don't know about the song going viral for that reason. It's just a random song that kids loved to make fun of. The most viewed videos on YouTube are generally driven by children. That's who spends the most time sitting around playing on their phones.

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she has made a career out of the notoriety she derived from having "the worst song ever."


She has a career because she continues to write and release music and some people react positively to it. I wouldn't give all the credit to that one song. It makes no sense that she has a career just for one song that's not good, unless you're suggesting people feel sorry for her and that's the only reason she has any views or upvotes. I doubt that. I do not agree that song is the worst song ever. Nowhere near close. It's definitely a cheesy teenage pop song. It might not be great, but downvotes on YouTube do not dictate any sort of universal truth, especially when kids are likely who mass downvoted it. There is such a thing as herd mentality, especially with young people. One influential kid walks into a school and talks [naughty word removed] and by the end of the day everyone is talking about it. That's why I mentioned that it would be interesting to see how many downvotes it would get with that option not showing as public. It's downvoted currently at 3.9 million. I bet it doesn't even hit the 1 million mark for downvotes if people can't vote publicly. If kids perceive it as being cool to downvote it, they will in mass.


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Jealousy in teenagers can be a motive to vote against another teenager. Just as they can lift one up they can put another down. Children can be very cruel when they choose to be, just as they can be very loving and supportive when they choose to be. They also like to follow the herd so they are not the odd man out. Hopefully they learn to think for themselves as they grow to be adults.

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The thing is... Rebecca Black didn't really have anyone helping her, either. She didn't even write the song "Friday"... was only 13 years old when she did the song. Her parents were not involved in music. It's not like she had the same connections that people like Miley Cyrus had around her age (who had plenty of professionals and writers surrounding her). Rebecca had an opportunity and took it, and was likely not ready for the moment... but I want to meet a 13 year old kid who's ready that doesn't already have their life handed to them through some sort of high status privilege hook up, like Cyrus, for example. It's one thing for parents to believe in their kid and try to pay for them to do a song. It's another when your father is a well established Nashville musician who has written top of the chart songs and knows piles of Nashville songwriters and industry professionals.

I assume it's mostly kids crapping on the song. I can't see a grown, mature adult watching it and getting mad enough to downvote it. I guess it probably happens... but it's a 13 year old kid doing a bubble gum pop teeny bop song. How can anyone get mad about that? It's clearly not a very serious thing. There's nothing offensive about it.


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Donnie, I think you overestimate grown-ups. Probably a lot of the comments came from people past their teen years.

The video is a bit like an Ed Wood movie like Plan 9 from Outer Space. It's so bad that it's good and people form a community around it based on comments that range from amusing and gently teasing to cruel and spiteful. It's complicated by the fact that there is a child involved and that her parents were just trying to do something nice for her (as far as I understand it).

I would have to disagree with you about not giving the credit to that one song. There are thousands of people releasing music, some of them very talented, who will never be noticed. Nobody would ever have noticed her either if her video had not gone viral through people making fun of it. I think that's great. If she can turn that to her advantage, preferably with a sense of humor, and build a career, good luck to her.

I have to admit I'm a bit jealous. I've been creating terrible music for ages and I'm still not famous smile

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It apparently started locally at her school. Who else would know about it in the beginning? And then nothing attracts a crowd, like a crowd "hey whats all this fuss"? let me click. Probably one school told another, and then all the local schools were viewing it, then it went statewide, then country wide and world wide.

The early kids felt she came from a rich family, and werent going to let her get away with it. But every time somebody watched, or commented, she made money. She's probably a millionaire just from this video. It was parodied and talked about on talk shows, all backed by this kids wanting to hate.

Not a bad strategy, people saying you're the worst, is better than saying you're the best. People today are still clicking it for the first time, this might last forever, until she gets tired of it.

There was a sequel too.... only 38 million views, slippin...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVCzdpagXOQ

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These girls, have gone viral and are now signed to a label because of it. They sound great lol, punk rock

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Originally Posted by DonnieWitt
I just watched that Rebecca Black video. I don't get it. Why is that video so hated? Just looks like a typical teenager making music to me. It's not really my style but it seems like fairly typical pop music.

YouTube automatically closes comments now for any videos that are marked viewable for anyone (children included). You have to mark videos for adults to even allow comments on YouTube now. Basically because people can't be trusted to act like decent human beings on the internet, so they can't let kids see just anything that gets typed.

There is really no value to having comments on videos, in my opinion. Other than giving people a place to engage each other on the topic. Generally speaking, no matter what the content is, there is always someone who will hate something, especially if someone else loves it.


+1 There is no value in the comments, unless itís an educational channel or sales demo of something. Comments has just become a trash can for people, so I certainly can understand why its avoided. They can throw mental garbage in their own back yard, I certainly wonít miss it.



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On Amazon, reviews can make a or break a business. It's sad in a way. But if your product is not good, negative reviews can steer people away. That's why they show if a purchased was verified, and not just somebody commenting who never bought it. The difference with music, is that it's subjective. No one size fits all and im sure many people think this song is great, they werent all negative comments.

There's a market for just about anything. And in music, many people saying something sucks is enough to make you click it to hear for yourself.

But sometimes the comments go too far, "Oh I know Lady Gaga, she used to live 9 blocks away, and she used to be a prostitute" "Her family disowned her"...that kind of chit doesnt belong anywhere.

And some people cant help but write something crude or unrelated, thats how they get noticed

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Originally Posted by Kolstad
Originally Posted by DonnieWitt
I just watched that Rebecca Black video. I don't get it. Why is that video so hated? Just looks like a typical teenager making music to me. It's not really my style but it seems like fairly typical pop music.

YouTube automatically closes comments now for any videos that are marked viewable for anyone (children included). You have to mark videos for adults to even allow comments on YouTube now. Basically because people can't be trusted to act like decent human beings on the internet, so they can't let kids see just anything that gets typed.

There is really no value to having comments on videos, in my opinion. Other than giving people a place to engage each other on the topic. Generally speaking, no matter what the content is, there is always someone who will hate something, especially if someone else loves it.


+1 There is no value in the comments, unless itís an educational channel or sales demo of something. Comments has just become a trash can for people, so I certainly can understand why its avoided. They can throw mental garbage in their own back yard, I certainly wonít miss it.


Actually engagement via comments dramatically expands viewership and algorithm boosts. They are critical for videos to go viral. Like as well. Sharing is the biggest booster. I use all sorts of comment fields to interact with regular fans and the channel operators as well. Sure trolls are a nuisance, but they boost the content nonethless. So trolls trashing someone actually helps them and most viewers don't look at them. On Xbox and Playstation comments can't be read or made by anyone which is likely due to child use. It is hooked into our TV so we watch youtube through it and have to comment via phone.


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