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Hi Folks,

This may be the most rational expose on the massive hypocrisy going on around ALL the sex scandals right now. No matter what side (if there's a "side" to any of this with consistency) you are on, this should be a wake up call. I challenge you to watch all 20 minutes and not re-evaluate your position not just on the people in question, but about all the sickness going on today across the world and how oblivious we are to the totality of it. Before you explode in the next outrage of the day, watch this, take a deep breath and think deeply about your own actions or inactions in the face of atrocities to the human race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk6ci1xzxuQ

I welcome any discussion from any side. Agree or disagree, you will have your eyes opened after seeing this. It's harsh and brutally honest.

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You welcome any discussion from any side? I'm not comfortable going down that rabbit hole but, here goes. This video has not changed my opinion at all.

We live in an increasingly violent culture and men (in sexual misconduct cases, 99.9% are men) should be held accountable for their actions. Do some get away with it? Yes! Are some falsely accused? Yes! Do I give a rat's ass about Clinton, Kennedy or any other liberal (or conservative) when the discussion is about Moore? Not one bit and neither should Molyneux. He's a pissed off conservative who thinks the press doesn't care about the victims and it's all politically motivated. Bull! I don't care if he's on the left or the right and neither does the press. Sex sells and that's what the press cares about. But because a liberal is guilty and not convicted doesn't mean Moore should get a pass just because someone else did. He's a creepy old white guy that has gotten away with this bullshit for too long. Or isn't there enough evidence yet to convince Molyneux of his guilt? Even Moore's supporters aren't necessarily saying he's innocent, only that they'd rather have him in office than a liberal. How sick is that?

At no point in time in our culture has it ever been OK for any man to wave around his junk in front of anyone underage or anyone of age who didn't ask to see it first. Nor has it ever been OK to touch anyone who is underage or anyone of age who didn't ask to be touched first. That's not a politically motivated opinion. That's a fact. If it's only getting reported on because it's salacious, at least it's out in the open now. It's a shame these incidents didn't come out sooner but they are coming out now and maybe the culture will change. I'm sure there will be more heads rolling in the future. Hopefully it won't turn into a witch hunt, or warlock hunt as the case may be. Men in the public eye, and probably many of those not so well known, are now frantically scouring their memories, trying to remember if they ever did anything they'd be ashamed to tell their mother. Good! They should be worried. Those on the left and the right.

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Ricki,

I don't think we disagree. I think the wider point is that this accusation, whether true or false exposes the priorities of the media. Comparing (if the worst accusation is true, that this 31 year old tried to date a 14 year old 40 years ago, to which no supporting evidence has been put forth) the outrage they have and the airtime minutes dedicated to this (when this woman allowed the same judge to adjudicate her divorce in 1999 which seems quite odd) and make it a more critical sexual crime than the massive child peodophile rings going on in the USA and around the world, the ongoing genocides going on all over the world, the ongoing female circumcisions going on in the USA as well as across the middle east and Europe, the ongoing slave trade of all races and ages of women around the world, not to mention the actual and factual court case of a standing Senator Bob Menedez who hired underage prostitutes among a myriad of other crimes and to which in all cases the MSM is silent and disinterested, but this unresolved accusation is front and center with no charges filed, no evidence outside of a claim (remember, the other claims were from women of legal age and none claimed any sexual contact ever occurred) and no opportunity for a day in court, meanwhile all these other heinous acts have happened, have been proven, are ongoing and the MSM could not care less. Their ONLY concern is politics. Full stop. They do not care about women. They aren't protecting women currently in danger or contemporaneously being raped, enslaved, mutilated and murdered. It's like a rumor of a drop of water versus a known ocean of toxic poison ripping through women as we speak and the rumor of a drop of water is their only concern. If this guy is guilty, charge him, take him to court, and put him in jail. Who cares. He's no danger to his claimed victim, meanwhile while I typed this some little girl with parents of a certain religious belief system had her sex organs cut off. Another was sold into lifetime sexual slavery. Another little girl was raped and murdered and still another sold like a head of cattle to billionaire pedophiles. That's the real point I got out of his rant. I don't care about the political parties, bother are hopeless and irreversibly corrupt and are mutually destroying our country, but while both sides get obsessed with a handful of famous people from both parties and political views, the massive horrors are going unreported and thus substantially assisted by the silence of the MSM which is in collusion with the key figures allowing these horrors to happen right in front of us.

I agree, "sex" sells and politically charged opportunism feeds the frenzy, but make no mistake, NONE of these MSM blabbermouths care one iota what happens to women. Frankly ALL of them have both covered it up in their own newsrooms as well as covering it up for the churches and politicians and big donors and wealthy corporate overlords which allows it all to continue to millions of women and men, girls and boys and infants worldwide. THAT is what I got out of it. Maybe you really do disagree and are saying that the Moore case is the most critical horror facing women today in the world and must be the primary focus of all media and all animus. I just disagree. I think it exposes their collusion and corruption further not to mention their ridiculous level of brazen hypocrisy. As for the two parties in the USA, both can rot in hell and we'd be better off. I hope we see massive numbers of their heads roll next election.


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You're right, Brian, there should be more network coverage on all the horrors that are happening all over the globe. We learn more about world events listening to the BBC than NBC. But there aren't enough hours in the day to report on it all, that's how sick the human race is. And I don't think I'd want to hear about all the ugliness...it's too much to process. So the alternative is...what? Don't report on Moore at all? And there is more than one accusation against him and yes, they should charge him and get him off the streets before he gets into a position of more power. The sooner the better. Yes, I've already decided he's guilty...my bad!

The media are focused on Hollywood and Washington today but I can only hope that now that there's a light shining on this issue, more women will feel empowered to come forward and talk about the everyday man who is doing these same things. It may not make the nightly news but maybe the jackhole down Main Street in Everytown, USA will be stopped because the authorities will finally listen to women who are no longer too afraid to talk about it and take action. I want the media to do their job and call attention to something that Moore is only a little part of. If beating this dog to death in the public eye is what it takes to get people's attention and change this culture then I guess I don't care what the motive of the media is.

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A pox on all their houses and that includes Pervert Bill and Pervert Denier Trump.
Men have been taking advantage of women since Adam because they are stronger physically. Even in our Country they wouldn't let women vote till about 70 years ago. For centuries they were the sex slave and baby maker and made the dinner but that is all over now. Many men all over are going to get ensnared it this and they deserve it. I was a Dem but hated what Clinton did with Monica and all the other women and Hillary enabled and protected him for political and power issues. I wrote this song below at that time called IT DEPENDS WHAT THE MEANING OF IS IS...gee that sounds like ISIS...Anyway this song is about him and how the world was and is being turned upside down. A pox on all their houses....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TC69O0g9SQ

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Aw Gee,
What an opening! I could probably fill up a book, (well not really) but I have no doubt some of then goes on from every angle and will until the "Cows come home!" On a more serious note, these ladies that have now, (Come out of the woodwork), have a decision to make, do they want the country to continue to go down the drain, to the point of finally completely destroying the country, That's what the Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and Communists want, or shut up and hope the job they save may be their own. My Gawd it is amazing how many politicians are just abhorred at these revelations as if they never heard such things until up to now! There is no doubt the Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and Communists want to extend the Welfare State out beyond the edge of the Universe and will use any means to do it. With everybody on the public Dole who will do all the hard work they depend on everyday? The country is still in one huge mess and until Trump came along no one was doing much about it. The Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, Communists, Swamp Dwellers, Bottom Feeders and a few Rhinos are doing everything they can do to keep their little piece of the Swamp. To hell with the country and the 20 Trillion dollar Federal Debt. They think the rich people are going to pay for it. But the rich people left the country. Now what?


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I am sorry! I didn't watch the Video before I posted. It only took me a few seconds to see this lad doesn't have a clue of what he is talking about. Last week I watched Steny Hoyer, Democrat Congressman stand on the house floor and accuse the Republicans of doing what the democrats have been doing all their lives. What a mouth full of ****. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it! I hear about half of the people are living paycheck to paycheck or maybe one paycheck ahead. Well that's what the people have voted for all these years. So let them pay for it!


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Hearing about what Charlie Rose did left me flabbergasted. Charlie Rose????? Huh? I guess I was oblivious to this stuff. I couldn't imagine in a million years ever touching a woman's butt without her asking me to do it. It's unthinkable to me....My best friend Phyllis who is in her 80's told her a story that when she got this new job about a month later the Boss called her into his office and told her he'd like to take her out for a drink later. She said she would rather not and he told her then that she should look for another job and she left and went home. I don't know why this is all new to me but I guess my Mom raised me differently as something like this never crossed my mind. Now when I was 16 and making out in cars sometimes the girl would initially push my hand away when I tried touching her etc.....and I kept trying and many times she would let me and I guess that was wrong too so maybe things have changed but I never got violent and cursed her out if she just moved away and said no.....This stuff if awful. I worked as a Nurse in a mostly female world and all my bosses were women. Now I guess if one of my bosses liked me and I was single maybe I'd go with her but if I was happily married and didn't do stuff like that and she fired me I'd have been furious....but she would have had control over my job which I needed. To tell you the truth if a strange gal grabbed my ass I would not have liked it.....SO where this ends is anybody's guess. A big time reporter Glen Thrus was outed last night. I wonder how many women out there in anywereville America this has happened to and nobody will ever know about it because there are just regular people and not famous. BUT this stuff stinks to high hell in my opinion....

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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Well,
I am sorry! I didn't watch the Video before I posted. It only took me a few seconds to see this lad doesn't have a clue of what he is talking about. Last week I watched Steny Hoyer, Democrat Congressman stand on the house floor and accuse the Republicans of doing what the democrats have been doing all their lives. What a mouth full of ****. Be careful what you wish for, you may get it! I hear about half of the people are living paycheck to paycheck or maybe one paycheck ahead. Well that's what the people have voted for all these years. So let them pay for it!


Why bother to join in if you haven't watched the topic? It doesn't make you informed nor your comments relevant or worth reading. So give actually knowing what you are talking about a try, you might learn something. The point is how much worse the horrible abuse and death is elsewhere while we play 2 party politics cheerleaders. Just like you have.


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Hi Brian:

I started listening to the "link" you provided and began to wonder if it has been hi-jacked? A bald headed, bad-tempered Nazi looking fool began a rant equivalent to "Der Fuhrer's" babble. All this guy did (until I turned him off after about two minutes) is blather on about Republicans. I'm not going to sit here an let a foul mouthed fool talk down to me and my conservative nature.

My disappointment with all the politicized hoo-ha about gropers in high places is tempered with the knowledge that most of these charges of high crimes are more than several years old. After Judge Moore was crucified by the liberal media and abandoned by the Republican Party, I noticed that he did not tuck his tail between his legs and roll over and play dead. Instead, he denied the charges and soldiered-on without the support of the Party. Until there is a condemnation by an actual qualified investigation or trial, I'm not buying that we (conservatives) should abandon a man who was willing to place the ten commandments (the foundation of our Nation's Moral Fiber) in his courtroom. Much to the chagrin of the liberals and God Deniers who occupy high places in our Supreme Court and other Federal Courts.

Finally, the plethora of Liberals being accused of sexual misbehavior or worse have all admitted their guilt and have resigned or await their fate when the congressional watchdogs of these sins take action. Women must be respected and allowed to work without predatory individuals in places of authority viewing them as "fair game." The same scenario holds true for men who have female supervisors. The gate swings both ways.

I'll wait to see if my suspicion about your link being hi-jacked is merely my vivid imagination or actually happened before continuing to rail against this jerk.

Regards, ----Dave

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Really Dave, watch the whole video before you pronounce judgement.

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To further the conversation a bit (of which needs no further movement) this babble may have worked 50 or so years ago but was pretty much debunked by much more wise voters last election. Yes there are bad things that happen from time to time and will until "The Cows Come Home" I have been thru "Three World Wars, Two County Fairs, and a er, ah, Sheep Shearing Contest". Not a lot I have missed. So I say, from many years of experience be frugal, spend your money wisely and if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!

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Hi Rikki:

You are probably right... but, being the "Old Geezer" that I am, I tend to react to music and video much like the A&R Departments at 99% of the Labels, Publishers and Producers... by listening to the first part... and if I don't care for what I hear, CLICK!

If the guy had given me a brief introductory explanation of what he was going to "educate me" about... I might have been a little less snarky... LOL! Every day or so I intentionally "tune in" to liberal TV Channels such as CNN or MSNBC and even Communist China to see what propaganda the "other side" is sharing with the world. An informed public is the greatest assurance that freedom and democracy (not that America is a democracy) will survive.

Regards, my talented friend... ----Dave

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This is my point, Dave. He is far from being a liberal and if you would just listen to him, I'm sure you will be thrilled by what he says by the time he's done ranting. I am rather proud of myself for hearing him out once I realized where he was headed. But sometimes I like to eavesdrop on right wing radicals, you know, "know thine enemy" and all.

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Hi again, Rikki:

If that guy is far from being a liberal... he certainly does not act like a gentleman and resorts to language which automatically classifies him as someone I don't care to associate with... or to listen to his crass, overbearing attitude. Being a southerner, my parents taught me to use politeness and manners when attempting to get a message across to others I do not know.

I am amazed you had the tenacity to "hear him out" with all that abusive and condescending attitude he displayed. Speaking of eavesdropping on "right wing radicals"... LOL... are you the one who managed to crash my AOL account? (Kidding, of course!)

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Well Bleep Ricki,
It is those "Right Wing Radicals" than keep the electricity flowing, those grocery shelves filled, the gas stations supplied with gas, etc, etc, etc, so when you need something it is usually available almost instantly.
If you get all these things where and when you need them thank somebody that did all the hard work so you have everything you need when you need it. So thank a Republican for all these things.

It is a well known fact that the Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and Communists want to run the country but they want the Republicans and Conservatives to pay for it. So far the Liberals, Progressives, Democrats, and Communists have given us a 20 Trillion Dollar Federal debt. They want to extend the Welfare State out past the Edge of the Universe. When everyone is on Welfare how long do you think those Grocery shelves will stay filled?


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Dave,

Actually he is one of the most popular conservative commentators who typically talks about stuff with far less rancor. I hadn't imagined you were too delicate to listen to a few "bad" words and the point he made became quite clear by the end. I was deservedly impassioned to try and wake up people more scared of words and political correctness or too worried about pop culture to focus on the far more serious destruction and human death tolls and destruction he talks about in summation. The reactions here, for the most part, prove his point exactly.

By the way, this same guy was also a passionate defender of Moore because it is clear this is a political hit piece unleashed not by the Democrats, but by the Senate Majority leader and his minions. I don't care much about him either way beyond expecting some actual evidence of illegality before his conviction. Like you noted, he denied it, whereas the Hollywood types mostly apologized for it or suggested they molested boys because they were gay,or in politics left a pesky paper trail. In Moore's case the only suggested paper trail is being withheld by Gloria Allred who when pressed 3 times by Wolf Blitzer (no fan of Moore) whether she could state the "yearbook" signature wasn't a forgery refused to respond.

Anyway, people worked up by these scandals should broaden the scope of things in the world they care about. Open air slave markets in Libya to genocide in Yemen at the hands of our allies in the UK, Israel, Saudi Arabia and US Special Forces might be worth looking into.


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Hey Brian:

Forgive my MethoBapterian upbringing... but I don't feel real good in the early mornings... old age creepeth... and if this guy had been polite and less bombastic in his demeanor... like my friend Mike Huckabee... I might have listened. George Washington did not care for curse-words and bar-room talk... and though I'm not a "prude"... I try to set a good example for my kids and progeny.

I used to clinch my fists when Bill O'Reilly would interview folks in his condescending manner... even though some really deserved to be treated that way, IMHO... but on that same channel for several years, Mike Huckabee (my former pastor) would treat any and all guests with dignity... even though they represented maximum polarity. He remains one of my hero's and most admired men or women I have met during my pre-WWII life. He was a pretty effective Governor, too.

Sorry I'm late this morning. I've been working on a tribute song for two of the great songs by Bob Nolan and recorded by the Sons of the Pioneers... but alas, after checking, they are not in the public domain... and the hoops I would need to jump through would probably take longer than I have left to live... LOL!

Always glad to hear from you and I hope you are ready for Christmas and the New Year. As usual, I've put off shopping again and will probably have my name scrubbed from the Family Bible for procrastination.

Take care, my friend and "Thanks" for providing us with JPF.

Best regards, always... ----Dave


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