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Sunny
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posted 10-30-2003 02:54     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunny   Click Here to Email Sunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I woke up this morning to Billy Ray Cyrus singing "Love Is Always Sixteen". It reminded me of a song I wrote and posted here (Lyric Board) in April, 2002, titled "Suddenly Sixteen". Of course, the titles are different, the words are different, but the basic premise is the same.

Wyman did the music for my lyrics and we paid to have the demo done, and now I feel as though I just have to set it aside and forget it.....if not forever, at least for several years. This is not the first time this has happened.
Same title, different idea is something else, but when you are writing about the same thing...it seems as though I just lost the song. Has this ever happened to you?

Sunny

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Graham
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posted 10-30-2003 04:42     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham   Click Here to Email Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sunny Honey. We all write about the same things.
We just say them differant, and hope our way rings more bells than the other blokes.
Now if the title was the same, and the story was the same, and some of the lines, and the music was dang close, I would worry.
Other than that. Never.
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Gary McCoy
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posted 10-30-2003 05:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary McCoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On three different occasions, there have been big hit songs with exactly the same title as songs in our catalog. Two of them went to #1. Faith Hill ("Let Me Let Go")and Rhett Akins ("Don't Get Me Started"). Can't rememeber the other one.

We also have a title that is almost identical to Shania's "Oh, Man I Feel Like a Woman." Ours is "Oh, Man, What a Woman." We heard Shania's cut the day after we had a demo made of our song. Such is life.

But, don't fret. Time eases the impact of such things. Our Shania-like title was put on hold this year by Lonestar. It didn't get cut, but the fact that it was put on hold was encouraging, and indicates that perhaps the title similarity is no longer a big issue.

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Ray E. Strode
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posted 10-30-2003 06:12     Click Here to See the Profile for Ray E. Strode   Click Here to Email Ray E. Strode     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Back in early 1996 I had a great idea for a song but I thought the song had already been written. I asked the publisher I work with if he had ever heard a song like that. No he said, so I wrote the song. Trying to write something different that will be commerical is very difficult. Sometimes it seems that all of the great songs have already been written. You just have to keep trying.

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Sngwrtr51
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posted 10-30-2003 09:49     Click Here to See the Profile for Sngwrtr51     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
About 10-15 years ago I wrote a song. Put it on the shelf for a short time while I decided if it was finished. Next thing I know Whitesnake has a pretty big hit with "The Deeper The Love". The melodies were almost identical, and I wasn;t even a Whitesnake fan! oh well...

Mike

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Wirdaz
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posted 10-30-2003 12:29     Click Here to See the Profile for Wirdaz   Click Here to Email Wirdaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One of the first (Good) songs I wrote wayback in 89 was called "The Grey with Wings upon his feet" Me and the Composer (1999) even won a Song writing contest with it in 2000. In 2001 Tanya Kernigan brought out one that Topped the Charts for a few weeks called "When I ride". Similar enough to be noticable that the one that followed would be credited as a rip off of the first. It is unlikely the writer ever heard mine and even if they had, they are very different. BUT yeah I know just how you feel.

Take heart at least we know we are on the right track

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JohnH
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posted 10-30-2003 12:50     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnH     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happened to me a long time ago. Early in the morning I was listening to the radio, and heard my tune as I cooked some scrambled eggs... Ah, it seems like Yesterday.... ;-)

Congrats to Sir Paul on the birth of his new daughter!

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BB Wilbur
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posted 10-30-2003 15:00     Click Here to See the Profile for BB Wilbur     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it happens all the time. A few years ago I wrote a song about a guy who speaks no French who meets a woman in New Orleans who speaks no English. About a year later there was a hit country song about the same thing. Some of the lines were even the same. It's just coincidence. There's no way the person who wrote that song ever heard mine, and I certainly didn't hear his.

About three weeks ago my wife heard a song on the radio that was recorded back in the 80s, and it was about: A guy who speaks no French who meets a girl in New Orleans who speaks no English!!! Three different songs on the same topic.

Neal

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Graham
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posted 10-30-2003 15:12     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham   Click Here to Email Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL That is way funny BB.
I wrote a lyric way back as a bit of a joke for us on lryrics forum when we had a spate of lyrics with a bit of french in them.
Was called The Only French I Know Is Fries, and was about a bushie and a french girl.
Sat in the files for ages and when The local record bloke suggested h4e could sell a CD of my groty stuff if I made one, I dirtied it up some and it is now on my crass ass souindclick site as Cest La F Word Vei, and charting quite nicely too.
Still got the original hook in it even.
Not for the faint hearted, or pure of mind though.
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Sunny
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posted 10-30-2003 16:06     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunny   Click Here to Email Sunny     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Everyone....

Well, it is certainly nice to know I am not alone. I think what bothered me was the money invested in something that has to be set aside until listeners forget that "Billy Ray did that". Musically and even lyrically the songs are quite different. My problem was that we were both putting forth the fact that no matter when you fall in love, you are "Suddenly Sixteen"....or to quote Billy Ray..."Love Is Always Sixteen". I mean, he could have at least picked 17 (LOL) or even 18. But nooooooo.....we're both comparing love to being 16. Or if one of us said..."you are always young when you are in love"....or "a kid again" or whatever. But noooo.....we both have to compare it to being 16! Sigh....such is life.

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Mike Dunbar
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posted 10-30-2003 20:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Dunbar   Click Here to Email Mike Dunbar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's nothing.

Here are some of the songs I wrote:

She Stopped Loving Him Today

Whiskey for My Horses and Beer for My Men

Off the Road Again

Don't Know Why I Didn't Write

Two Wooden Crosses

Tastes Like Teen Spirit

You Ain't Nothin' But a Lap Dog

Knock on Glass

Daquiriville

You've Got Rhythm

Blue Eyed Girl

I'm White and I'm Proud

Folsum Recreation Center Blues

What If God Were'nt Like One of Us

Moondust

Don't Think Once It's Alright

New Jersey, New Jersey

Caffeine

Elevator to Heaven

Freecat

Not to mention the idea I had for a website called Just Regular People!

Mike

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BeverlyRead
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posted 10-31-2003 21:35     Click Here to See the Profile for BeverlyRead   Click Here to Email BeverlyRead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Earlier this year I posted a song here called "Straight and Narrow Way" which I wrote for my father. About two months ago Lisa Daggs came to our church and performed. I thought about passing the song to her but chickened out. Then I bought her CD and - of course - she had a song titled "Straight and Narrow Way". It was completely different from mine musically and lyrically, but the title......I was bummed. But I'll still push my song.

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Sharon Irene Wells
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posted 11-02-2003 15:18     Click Here to See the Profile for Sharon Irene Wells   Click Here to Email Sharon Irene Wells     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike! Would you mind posting "YOUR" lyrics to "Whiskey for my horses and Beer for my men"? Pretty please! They surely make more sense then the ones I hear everyday! LOL Mine was "I Stopped Loving Him Today"....had a good reason also.....just had buried him! Don't think that's in the "hit" single is it???? But don't reckon that matters, got the one up now I like better "I'll Love You Past The Day I Die"! I'm sure that's not been written "hit" yet!


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Graham
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posted 11-02-2003 16:04     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham   Click Here to Email Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today I had an ask about one on my Roar Radio play list.
From a publisher who owns one of the same name, but the artist listed isn't one of the folks doing their take.
Hope nobody ever does one called I'm Missing You Like Crazy But My Aim Isw Getting Better before I get that one out there and established.
Graham

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EdPerrone
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posted 11-02-2003 22:04     Click Here to See the Profile for EdPerrone   Click Here to Email EdPerrone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mike and Graham, the two of you ... I'm gonna have to buy a new monitor soon if I keep spittin' my coffee all over this one... I LOVE those titles!

--- Ed

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Tioga Shawn
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posted 11-04-2003 08:22     Click Here to See the Profile for Tioga Shawn   Click Here to Email Tioga Shawn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
something similar happened, I showed a song I had wrote to a friend who had been doing it for some time to get what I considered expert opinion; about six months later he came up to me to tell me a new song he was working on that followed a very similar story but was different as a whole, at first I was upset but later viewed it as mine inspired his much like songs I hear inspire me to tell my version of a similar story.
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Originally posted by Sunny:

I woke up this morning to Billy Ray Cyrus singing "Love Is Always Sixteen". It reminded me of a song I wrote and posted here (Lyric Board) in April, 2002, titled "Suddenly Sixteen". Of course, the titles are different, the words are different, but the basic premise is the same.

Wyman did the music for my lyrics and we paid to have the demo done, and now I feel as though I just have to set it aside and forget it.....if not forever, at least for several years. This is not the first time this has happened.
Same title, different idea is something else, but when you are writing about the same thing...it seems as though I just lost the song. Has this ever happened to you?

Sunny


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