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I'd very much appreciate your comments on "EVENTUALLY" Which version do you prefer?
thank you in advance.

eventually (added Dec 2007)
by Halie Loren
http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=61657

Eventually
Performed by: Dave Brooks
Produced by: Denny Martin
http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=12739

Eventually pop
Performed by: Alex Anders
Produced by: Alex Anders
http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=12740

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Thank you,

Ande Rasmussen
AndeRasmussen@aol.com

Eventually
Written by Mark Oates, Donna Aylor, and Ande Rasmussen

verse 1
I lie in bed and wonder how you are
Little things remind me how we are now apart
No more talking on the phone
Or late nights with you alone
And tho I dont know why you said goodbye

CHORUS:
EVENTUALLY
I'LL FORGET ABOUT YOU
EVENTUALLY
I'LL LOVE SOMEONE NEW
THO ALL I DO IS THINK ABOUT
THE WAY WE USED TO BE
I'LL GET ON WITH LIFE
EVENTUALLY

verse2
I'm waiting for your memory to fade
I'm still holding onto the promises you made
You said you felt for me
A love that would always be
And I wish I could feel that love tonight

REPEAT CHORUS

BRIDGE
Somewhere between these walls of time
Someone will love this heart of mine
Tho it hurts to know it wont be you

REPEAT CHORUS

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Ande,
Great song - both, very nice arrangements.

The "Pop" version with Alex was very enjoyable, especially in the Chorus section with the excellent vocal harmonies, although in comparison, I didn't enjoy the verses as much, likely just a style issue, because it sounded a bit too "R&B-ish" to be pure Pop, at least to my ears.

After the Pop version, I heard the Adult Contemporary version with vocalist Dave Brooks. I honestly enjoyed that version even better, if not MUCH better!

I believe the song's message lends itself well to this slower moving 'ballad-like' pace and in my opinion, the minimalist piano accompaniment adds perfectly to the mood portrayed by the lyrics.

Again, both versions have their merits, but in my book, the Dave Brooks version
produced by Denny Martin is the real "charmer".

No wonder it won 1st place Adult Contemporary Song from the Austin Songwriters Group!

Best regards,
Michael Borges



[This message has been edited by Michael Borges (edited 10-26-2003).]

hi michael,

thanks for listening and writing your comments

the version that won the 2000 ASG barebones was a piano vocal Mark Oates did

ande

Ande,
Great song - both, very nice arrangements.
The "Pop" version with Alex was very enjoyable, especially in the Chorus section with the excellent vocal harmonies, although in comparison, I didn't enjoy the verses as much, likely just a style issue, because it sounded a bit too "R&B-ish" to be pure Pop, at least to my ears.

After the Pop version, I heard the Adult Contemporary version with vocalist Dave Brooks. I honestly enjoyed that version even better, if not MUCH better!

I believe the song's message lends itself well to this slower moving 'ballad-like' pace and in my opinion, the minimalist piano accompaniment adds perfectly to the mood portrayed by the lyrics.

Again, both versions have their merits, but in my book, the Dave Brooks version
produced by Denny Martin is the real "charmer".

No wonder it won 1st place Adult Contemporary Song from the Austin Songwriters Group!

Best regards,
Michael Borges

this is one of my favorite songs I've ever written. I'd appreciate comments from folks on it.

thanks,

ande

Hi Ande,

Had to look twice at the original date of the post

Well I'm happy to say this song certainly has all the elements of a contemporary hit song. Well crafted, arrangement and performances were all there.
Simple & effective lyrics all make this a winner.
And it is flat out catchy..

The song has R&B flavor all over it. I like that!
My first reaction was to say the 1st version was the one but the second was also very good probably the more radio friendly (easier marketable) but also maybe the more common sounding. 1st version demo and opn to more artist.. the second version sounds like the artist already got it..

In the first version the ending lines right before the chorus
were not as effective melodically as in the second version.
The second version felt better going into the chorus this was the first thing I noticed that stood out to me.

This is right on par with todays comtemporary Pop/R&B music.. matter of fact it is nicer than a whole bunch of stuff I have heard that charted recently.

I could tell you what kiils me is labels will turn this down for some lame reason like "Not a breakthrough song"
"Nothing new and fresh" then that same label will put out the same style song, and be anything but new and fresh.
They have to have a personnal reason to wanna help you somehow..

Anyway,
How did you make out with it? I see you got Sony publishing where is the song at now?

Great job Ande and something to be proud of it is not easy to write songs like this no matter what anyone says or thinks..

peace
Sub

[This message has been edited by substudio (edited 09-18-2006).]

Both versions were well written and beautifully produced.

The scaled down version was obviously more up close and personal as the vocals you could reach out and touch them.

I’m a huge fan of full-blown productions and the production number was no exception, tastefully annotated with subtle but powerful musical effects, which enhanced the overall sound. The vocals, which were very good as well, but seemed somewhat “pushed” slightly back in the mix as compared with the scaled down version. It would be interesting to see if a scaled down version of the production number would have a similar effect as the other.

If the piano version didn’t exist we would obviously not be having this conversation!

The merit of both is substantial in it’s own light.

I thoroughly enjoyed listening to both - thank you Ande.

Accel

Probably going to come down to personal preference....but for me it was
Dave Brooks...singing that makes it!!!...
Beautiful......absolutely beautiful...Ande..

2nd version is also nice...But..I felt..
when Dave Sang......the song..took on its
wings..and soared.... He made me feel it...

Best ......
Kaley...

I enjoyed both versions...for me, I like the Dave Brooks one...Tiz great to have more than one version of a great song...well done.

t m

thank you sub,
I appreciate what you wrote about eventually

It's been cut a couple times and continues to be one of my most requested songs.
a few fell through

I don't think it's for sale on itunes.

several artists have requested to record eventually, but no majors

When I first signed it with sony I was very excited, but the person who signed it is no longer there and I feel like no one at sony is pitching the song anymore, just my cowriters and me.

It's copublisher suggested that he needed a new demo to remind sony about the song, but we weren't eager to put up $1,500 for a new demo.

I still feel like it is one of the best songs I've ever written and I continue to hope that more people will cut it.

ande

thank you to Accel, musica, Kaley, Tomtimeless, and niteshift,

I very much appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment on eventually
I look forward to hearing your songs

Ande

Ande-- I like the Dave Brooks version slightly better....Is this the Dave Brooks from Nashville?....he's a really great singer...

The other version sounds like a INSYNC record or Backstreet Boys type sound...it's also very good...

Have a nice day....t-bob

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Hey Ande,

Yep, Great tune.

I vote for the second version definately. They both sound like boy-band singers to me. (That's a good thing). But the first version sounds like a cross between Pop/R&B and Country. Mixing generes isn't something record companies generally like to do I imagine (No great experience).

If you do redemo it, you might consider REALLY doing a full fledged country demo.

Another problem with the country-ish demo was that it sounds like a slow song. They say uptempos are MUCH easier to pitch. The more of a medium tempo groove you give a country demo, the easier it would be to sell, I imagine.

Best of luck. Hope you get this recorded.

Peace,

Ian

Hi Ande, I really like the 2nd version w/Alex , Just everything sounds like it "fits" better..To me the first vocal sounds too "boy band" the 2nd more commanding to the listener, not necessarily mature, but more appealing to wider audience; if you will...Only one problem which is a Big one for me anyway....His vocal is too buried..dont know if he needs to be brought out more or background toned down more, and he needs more effect on the vocal, a little more delay reverb or something, cant tell you exactly what effect but to me his vocal (not his singing) sounds tooo Flat....That would make a huge difference and I wanna hear him up close....Great song,,,Sue

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[This message has been edited by laineytunes@yahoo.com (edited 09-20-2006).]

Ande: I think the verses are well constructed and the production is right up there quality-wise. I am almost afraid to say what is bothering me about this and I am not even sure that it is worth saying to you since you seem to be very well versed in this line of work. But for what it is what is bothering me is the word eventually. I don't know if it is the word itself or the way it is sung, but it somehow does not flow. It does not come off the toungue smoothly which it appears that it should. I mean it should be a slam dunk of a song cause everything is working for it until it comes to the "eventually" word. Its a five sylable word so maybe since you have to squeeze it into a 4-4 meter it doesn't quite get there. In my opinion just stops the song dead in its tracks. Maybe I am wrong. I actually hope I am wrong, cause I like everything else about it.


All the Best....Paul

Hi, Ande:

Thanks for posting both versions of this song. I enjoyed checking them out. Some random thoughts:

- Strong hook. I listened two nights ago, and I can still sing the beginning of the chorus.

- Pretty melody.

- While both versions have merit, I much prefer the Dave Brooks version. The warmth of his vocals elevates the song.

- As much as I like the hook, when "eventually" is repeated in line 3 of each chorus, the phrasing (elongating the first syllable and shortening the second and third syllables) feels unnatural to my ear.

- The verses could use fresher language and/or imagery. Lying in bed thinking about a lost love is a common image in pop music. Is there a way to convey this image so that it sounds new again?

- My primary concern: lyrically, the chorus feels too resolved. When the singer tells me that he knows -- without question -- that eventually he will find a new love and get on with life, I stop feeling his pain, and the song loses its emotional charge. Can you keep me in that place where the singer has no clue how life will go on, even though he recognizes that, eventually, it has to?

Best of luck with this song. You've got a powerful hook; I hope that the marketplace offers you a home for this song somewhere soon.

Mitch

[This message has been edited by splitpeasongs (edited 09-23-2006).]

[This message has been edited by splitpeasongs (edited 09-23-2006).]

Hi terribob

so you like the Dave Brooks version slightly better
you asked: "Is this the Dave Brooks from Nashville?"
~~~> yes the one and the same

you wrote: "he's a really great singer"
~~~> isn't he

thanks again t-bob

ande

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Hi Ian,

glad you liked eventually, you prefer the second version

that's interesting you say the first version sounds like a cross between Pop / R&B and Country.
~~~> I think it's a genre jumper

that's interesting that you suggest we consider doing a full fledged country demo.

I wonder how the emotion of the song changes with tempo changes.

Allen Shamblin tells a funny story about how when they started writing "I Can't Make You Love Me" it had an uptempo bluegrass feel.

thanks again ian,

ande

hi lainey

so you prefer the 2nd version w/Alex

that's interesting that you say the "vocal is too buried"

I'll let my cowriters know

ande

Hi Paul,

nice to hear from you
thank you for your comments

glad you think "the verses are well constructed and the production is right up there quality-wise."

you wrote: "what is bothering me is the word eventually."
~~~> I don't know if I can fix that one.

hope it doesn't bug others

ande

Hi splitpea,

very nice to hear from you
thanks for taking the time to listen and write Some random thoughts:

I'm glad you feel it has a Strong hook and a Pretty melody.

it's interesting that you prefer the Dave Brooks version. The warmth of his vocals elevates the song.
Dave is such a versitile singer

thanks for your concerns on the 3rd line and that the verses could use fresher language and/or imagery.

Is there a way to convey this image so that it sounds new again?
~~~> maybe

I don't feel the "chorus feels too resolved."

eventually is some fuzzy moment in the future, it might take weeks, months or years.

it's been cut a couple times, just nothing big yet.

thanks gain Mitch

ande

new female demo of eventually arrived today
http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=61657

I like the Halie Loren "McLachlan-like" version best. Brings out the emotion in the lyrics well.

..ant

Hi Ande
I see this one has been around a while.
I listened to all three
I liked this new female version best.

I cannot tell you why I just am more "moved" by it than the others.

This is not a really strong song Lyrically but it's simplicity makes it very pleasant to listen to.
Good job

thank you ant
hope your writing is going well

ande

hi bill

thanks for listening and your comments
you're right about the lyrics

Ande

I loved the delicate approach of Haile's rendition. Then I heard Brook's and I loved that one too. I didn't like last one at all.

I guess I like Brook's a lot because I like it when men show their sensitive side and since the singer is a male that was more moving to me.

But I loved Haile's too because of her sweet lovely voice.

Dump the last one, though. The vocalist can't handle the delicacy of the melody the way the other two can.

The version I like best is the one preformed by Brooks. I liked the vocal on all of them but that version seemed to hit the balance that I would pitch. Pitch all of them because it clearly shows the song in various "colors". You, or someone, must really like this to do three demos.

It has a fine melody; and for criticism, I would have to say that the first verse is a little weak in that it is not particularly inventive and it didn't evoke an emotional response in me. The chorus held my attention but after a few times hearing the word "eventually", my mind started working it and it started to sound odd to my ear. The second verse seemed to strike, for me, the core of the song and that was when I could connect with the song on an emotional level. I liked the bridge and it help keep the emotional "honesty" alive. I can't fault any of the production and I would not be surprised if this showed up on a major artist album or on a movie score.

me again. I follow this song whereever it goes. You said this was your favorite song of yours and it's my favorite of yours as well. It's a winner! I hope this song will "eventually" be on the radio and on someone's CD!! In case you missed my comment over on the other thread concerning both versions here it is.

Both versions are beautiful but different. But aside from the obvious factor that you have a female and male version, Dave delivers this in a way than makes the song shine brighter. His demo is so good it is just as good, no make that better, that what is already on the radio. Halie's voice and interpretation of the same song show us the versatility of this song or any song for that matter. Halie's delivery reminded me of a Diana Krall feel (which isn't shabby) and she gave it a unique quality all her own. BUT if you are looking for a vote then I believe Dave Brook's version is superior for this particular song.

Could you tell me what studio Halie works out of because I really like her voice???

Best,
Lynn

Hi Lynn,

thank you for listening and for your comments
Eventually is one of my favorites, I beleive in it and that is why I decided to invest in another demo with a female voice.
I too love Halie's voice, she's one of my favorite female singers.

Halie records in her home studio.
She's a college student, between semesters.
I hope to have her do a couple more before she gets busy with school.

Ande

thank you jean
hope your writing is going well

ande

Hi Samuel,
thanks
I really do like and beleive in this song
We've spent a lot in demoing it over the years
thanks for your comments

Ande

Hi I'm Ted...nice to meet ya...Well I like the one no one has said they like...The Alex version works for me..a little more up tempo in the vocals and the way he sang the word Eventually...the other 2 singers warbled it to much for me...sorry but the female version did nothing for me...both male versions were better...best of luck!!!

I like Halie's rendition but overall Dave Brooks gets my vote for the powerhouse version. Might just be because I'm a woman, though I'm trying to keep that bias out of it. It's a great song. You know Tim McGraw's been doing some pop-ish stuff....but, of course, you already know that.

Ande,

Listened to all three over on the Ramp. I should know better, but I am going to go in a different direction than Tricia. I really enjoyed Halie's version. I thought her voice was just superb. The breaks into the falsetto are what hooked me. The color in her voice is dripping with anguish and passion. You guys wrote a great lyric.

All three versions were good, but I think each would appeal to a different crowd. I see Halie's version as Adult Contemporary; Alex's version as straight Pop and Dave's version as Contemporary Country. I think the arrangement on each is very appropriate for the genre would have significant appeal in all three markets. Sounds like a hit to me! Best of luck with this. It deserves to be on a CD that I can purchase at any store that sells music. And, I would buy it!

Alan

Ande, just got a chance to listen, she has a nice kind of sultry delivery, I wish she cut loose a little more to convey the emotion more for you. You know I'm a big Dave Brooks fan so there ya go, I would still pitch this version. I just did the same thing with one Dale and I wrote, I haven't posted the female version yet but we had Brittany do a female version of God's Country Roses at the same time she did 2 others for us right before Christmas...here's to a great 08, let's get some cuts...and you are on my New Years Resolution list...ha...to wrap up things that are half way through production...ha...se ya...Moker

Hi Ande... I thought for sure I'd commented on Halie's version....but don't see my comments on Songramp or elsewhere...

Just went in to listen again...on ramp, and computer is not
pulling up their player...

I will come back and listen and give my thoughts again...

I remembering liking it a LOT....but still Like Dave's...too
in a different way. I think you have two fantastic demos
to shop.

Will be back and try again later.

Thank you very much for your thoughts on Gethsemane. Lynn and I worked hard on those lyrics..and feel Dave and Denny did a super job for us...

Very best to you this mornin'
Kaley

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I love the Dave Brooks performance! You could pitch this to either Pop or R&B artists, very beautiful. Sings awesome.