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#1140690 - 05/12/18 04:51 PM Unpopular Hero  
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Because of a discussion on another forum, I dug this song out of the ashes.
I never intended to ever record this.
It is about the war in Vietnam - written by a 20 year-old in 1975. (me).

This is a snapshot of a specific time in our history.
And the reactions and feelings from certain segments of America.
It tells the story of a "conflicted" veteran.
And how he (and others like him) were treated by a small, but very vocal group of the Americans he had gone to war for.

This sentiment, fortunately, no longer seems to exists.
But it ripped the fabric of America at the time.

We have healed.
The Wall commemorates those who gave their lives for the ideals of America.
Those who returned no longer face the anger and ridicule that some chose to greet them with at the time.
That should give us all hope for the future.

Again, keep in mind this was written in 1975. (and I was 20).
A snapshot in time.


UNPOPULAR HERO

i was raised in the bible belt
by mom and apple pie
all my life i pledged allegiance
while the stars and stipes would fly
and when my notice came the canadian border
never crossed my mind
like my grampa, my dad and my uncles
i was proud to serve my time

   unpopular hero in an unpopular war
   i was still a virgin
   she stood leaning in the door
   she just wants her pay
   she don't want my love
   she just want her pay

i read the history they wrote
i saw the movies they made
audey murphy, john wayne and my dad came home
to ticker tape parades
but when we came home
no one looked us in the eye
we didn't want to talk of it
but no one asked us why

   unpopular hero in an unpopular war
   we were all just virgins
   she stood leaning in the door
   she just wants her pay
   she don't want my love
   she just want her pay

i've got pictures you don't want to see
swirling through my head
every day i fight to forget
my fight is all but dead
go ahead, ignore us
maybe we'll go away
will anyone mention vietnam
come memorial day

   unpopular hero in an unpopular war
   sixty thousand virgins
   please no more
   it's too much to pay
    it's too much to pay



floyd

#1140691 - 05/12/18 05:36 PM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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Great story, Floyd:

It was too much to pay. Any war fought without the thought of total victory is a waste of lives and time. The events at Kent State made me super angry... and not at the National Guard. I had come home from serving out in the Pacific and barely missed being caught up in this. Instead, I was employed in an ammunition plant and we were busy three shifts and sometimes seven days a week making bombs and all their components to support our troops.

Events on the west coast insulting our returning troops also made my blood boil. I won't forget... but I'll always be grateful for what these guys went through for us. A war we could have won in thirty days if the stupid politicians had mustered the courage to turn our troops loose.

I don't really believe we've healed as a Nation... but I'm frequently wrong. Thanks for telling this in such an impressive write and performance. A story needing to be told. ----Dave

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Nicely told young man.

#1140696 - 05/12/18 10:07 PM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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Wow Floyd. What a powerful lyric and written at 20, no less. It is a brilliant lyric imo and wonderful performance, as well. I was 12 in 75, but remember being a kid at the table listening to the adults in spirited discussions on whether we should be there. Some of those discussions got real loud and somewhat aggressive. If it means anything, your song brought me back to that time. Well done.

Dave

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#1140699 - 05/13/18 02:38 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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In the UK we had our own issues with the Irish Troubles as they were called.
Guys like John Lennon were very vocal and anti war in any form but never came up with real solutions to end them.Only give peace a chance.
As did McCartney. with Give Ireland back to the Irish which was banned by the BBC,but they tried.
I like your new old song Floyd it's a good story and with plenty of history and a glimpse of the attitudes of the time to back it up
Excellent song all round,
Travis

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#1140705 - 05/13/18 07:19 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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Hello Floyd,


Very nicely done.
H E A V Y !


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#1140706 - 05/13/18 07:48 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: Calvin]  
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Thanks for the listen Calvin
Anthony

#1140731 - 05/14/18 09:33 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: GocartMoz]  
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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Great story, Floyd:

It was too much to pay. Any war fought without the thought of total victory is a waste of lives and time. The events at Kent State made me super angry... and not at the National Guard. I had come home from serving out in the Pacific and barely missed being caught up in this. Instead, I was employed in an ammunition plant and we were busy three shifts and sometimes seven days a week making bombs and all their components to support our troops.

Events on the west coast insulting our returning troops also made my blood boil. I won't forget... but I'll always be grateful for what these guys went through for us. A war we could have won in thirty days if the stupid politicians had mustered the courage to turn our troops loose.

I don't really believe we've healed as a Nation... but I'm frequently wrong. Thanks for telling this in such an impressive write and performance. A story needing to be told. ----Dave


Dave - I had a feeling this would resonate with you. I appreciate getting your thoughts on it. There are, of course, two sides (or more) to every story and I attempted to touch on them both in this - so that every listener could take away something from this....




Originally Posted by Martin Lide
Nicely told young man.


smile Thanks, Martin....




Originally Posted by GocartMoz
Wow Floyd. What a powerful lyric and written at 20, no less. It is a brilliant lyric imo and wonderful performance, as well. I was 12 in 75, but remember being a kid at the table listening to the adults in spirited discussions on whether we should be there. Some of those discussions got real loud and somewhat aggressive. If it means anything, your song brought me back to that time. Well done.

Dave


Dave - thanks for the listen. Those were certainly tumultuous times. A divide nation. We seem even more so now - for different reasons. Hopefully we will get through this, too...

#1140732 - 05/14/18 09:34 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: the_lyricwriter]  
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Originally Posted by Travis david
In the UK we had our own issues with the Irish Troubles as they were called.
Guys like John Lennon were very vocal and anti war in any form but never came up with real solutions to end them.Only give peace a chance.
As did McCartney. with Give Ireland back to the Irish which was banned by the BBC,but they tried.
I like your new old song Floyd it's a good story and with plenty of history and a glimpse of the attitudes of the time to back it up
Excellent song all round,
Travis


Thanks, Travis....


Originally Posted by Calvin
Hello Floyd,


Very nicely done.
H E A V Y !


Calvin


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart


Thanks, Calvin....


Originally Posted by the_lyricwriter
Thanks for the listen Calvin
Anthony


I'm sorry.... I think you got a wrong number...

#1140735 - 05/14/18 09:49 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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Another good one, Floyd. Stripped down, nice sound.

Fine lyric, especially the analogy in verse/chorus.

Vic


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#1140779 - 05/15/18 09:33 PM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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Hi Floyd.

I really liked how you expressed your sentiments without being overly-passionate or cynical as many anti-war or anti-anything seems to do. Just an honest appraisal and heartfelt delivery. Those vets unpopular perhaps to some, but really more "unrecognized" by many who were just generally disgusted and wanted to move on. I'm glad today the Nam vets are recognized for their service, a bit late however. A lot of us 60+ around here remember well those days and the youth culture surrounding those times. I didn't have to go to Nam, while in college, but was prepared to go if called after graduation--not needed, drew #179 in the draft lotto! -- but I didn't wear that gratification on my sleeve, as several of my friends did go, a couple acquaintances didn't come back.

Glad you brought this one out of the ashes.

Thanks Floyd.

steady-eddie

#1140838 - 05/17/18 10:56 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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Hi Floyd,

I listen to your song it is awesome. You telling that story in a song it is Amazing. "Unpopular Hero" Very nice title and brilliant! brilliant! lyric. Well written and sung. Good job.

#1140839 - 05/17/18 11:10 AM Re: Unpopular Hero [Re: floyd jane]  
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Cool Song and I like it.
I am working on a Musical called "NAM THE MUSICAL".....all about this. I write lots of songs about that era as I went through a lot of it. My idea for the musical is 4 different guys and their stories.....A Protester, An Draftee, A Go Hung RA and a Badly wounded guy. I have a few songs but still need somebody good to write the stories.....BUT I might have to write it myself. It's on one of my Facebook pages.....


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