Not In My Back Yard

Ugh you know I'm so political its not funny, mix that with a loud mouth and a stubborn personality, it spells disaster!

And, for the record, Wilson was wrong: H.R. 3200, the health-care bill under debate in the House, explicitly prohibits coverage for illegal immigrants.

According to this from Newsweek, Joe Wilson got it wrong.

but I guess it's OK when Democrats do it.

11 SEC. 242. AFFORDABLE CREDIT ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUAL.
(a) DEFINITION.—
IN GENERAL.—For purposes of this division, the term 'affordable credit eligible individual' means, subject to subsection (b), an individual who is lawfully present in a State in the United States (other than as a nonimmigrant described in a sub paragraph (excluding sub-paragraphs (K), (T), (U), and (V)) of section 101(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act)—

Bill, do you really equate what went on in that video to what Wilson did?

Scott

Hey Scott, I'm not speaking for Bill, but I don't understand your outrage.

Where was your outrage when Harry Reid called President Bush a "loser" in front of school children?

I would definitely vote for a democrat who had the nation's well being at heart

And for Wilson the only thing he did wrong was apologize. He did what countless Americans have been wanting to do since he was elected.

I like this gal NaomiSue because she has the gumption, and you can say whatever you like against me because it ain't gonna affect me, and she's right Wilson should not have apologized and Obama does not have the will of the people with him, and this my final say so on it so have at me

Nah, I won't have at you, Gary. No point to it....

But let me ask you this: Suppose some guy dragged the American Flag through your front yard. You wouldn't do anything, right? Because it's just a piece of cloth, right?

Just like it's no problem that a congressman calls the President of the United States a liar in open congress. I mean, he's just a guy standing up there talking, right?

If those seem like two entirely different things to you and the others here, then I'm wasting my breath.

No worries - I never get anything useful done this time of day anyway.....

Scott

I don't think that it's deplorable, as I don't think that anything that Harry Reid or any other Democrat who called President Bush names or degraded his integrity during his term did (and there was plenty).

My point is that the shoe is on the other foot now.

Why weren't you outraged at the lack of respect at Presedent Bush?

I think that the answer is in your own political leant.

Scott,I don't know how you voted. But I can tell where you lean, and it ain't to the right. So where does that leave you? You may want to appear center, but you don't. You appear left of center.

Fence sitters never accomplish anything. They just sit on the fence. Make a decision for Gods sake.

Things will only get done when you guys get off the fence.

We've plowed this ground already, Ben. More than once, I think.

See ya,
Scott

Bill,

LOL -- it is 1017 pages long! That would be more than enough reason for me to vote against it! Don't ask me if I understand what the following means -- because you would have to go read those subsections in the Immigration and Nationality Act.



The phrase: "an individual who is lawfully present in a State in the United States" seems to be pretty straight forward. I just searched the bill for immigration, but there could be other confusing subsections in there somewhere.

It would not surprise me if there was some wording somewhere that lawyers will try and use to cover illegal aliens, though. (by the way section B discusses families 400% below the poverty level).

Kevin

If the illegals are not covered by this bill right now they will be when the bill is passed giving them all citizenship.Or does anyone really think that isn't on the agenda? They will all join our Social Security rolls too when that happens. This public healthcare bill is just step one on our real slippery slope!

I'm not sure where the outrage is on this.
Is everyone outraged that Wilson said "a lie" during a Presidential speech or that he called the President a Liar.
He actually did not call him a liar. He simply said "A lie". At least that was what I heard.

What I find embarrassing is that we have to resort to this type of thing. That our political leaders have lost so much credibility and trust that we have people calling our President a liar.

Where is it written that we cannot challenge our President. Where in our constitution does it say we must blindly acquiesce to the President.

I'm sorry but I believe we have the right, the duty, to challenge our leaders when we believe they are wrong or what they are doing is hurting our country.

I respect the office of the President.

As far as Wilson speaking out during the Presidents speech I see no difference in that than the heckling Bush got during his speech. Only the words were different and I'm not even convinced they were. There was a lot of mumbling.

Beyond that. I do believe he was saying what the majority of citizens in this country believe. I believe Obama is misleading us.