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#570870 - 12/28/07 11:06 PM Ande's SongWriting Blog
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	I've decided to begin a songwriting blog here, if that's OK I'll share the details of my behind the scenes songwriting efforts songwriting is a battle we fight at many fronts a few years ago I started my swimming blog where I share the details of my swimming training it's had over 134,000 views and gets several hundred a day http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?t=4298 _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#570874 - 12/28/07 11:21 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Friday December 28, 2007 Last night I went to dinner with my friend and collaborator Dennis Livingston and his wife Karen at Biga on the Banks on the San Antonio Riverwalk, they are in from Boston http://www.dennislivingston.com/ had a great time, his dad was quite a songwriter http://www.dennislivingston.com/jerrylivingstonmain.htm Halie send me her demo of Eventually http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=61657 and final mix of That Magic http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=61658 I'm sending her a check and figuring out what she can demo next added some touches to the draft of my Resolution song Corresponded some with Donna Galbraith on a cowrite she's a wonderful writer and artist http://www.songramp.com/homepage.php?userid=4347 Eric expressed interest in one of my song ideas and asked me to writ more on it since I just sent him a chorus going to be in Tampa Sat Jan 5 - Wed Jan 9th and LA Fri Feb 8th - Tue Feb 12th for grammys need to vote for Grammy's Love rading Marc Allen's stuff read this today: "Ande, Check out my earlier post. I think I answered that. Try to write ten up tempo and mid tempos for every ballad you write. Try to establish yourself with co-writes before you try to hit with the big ballad. Most ballads by "outsiders" or newer writers are generally turned off at the intros.The reason is pretty evident when you hear a lot of songs. They are usually very average. They will have identical rhymes and story to what you have heard before. As you get more established, either through publishers or co-writers, you get two more lines. With some people they will listen to the first two lines before turning it off. The reason is the publisher or co-writer may know other work of yours enough to give you the benefit of the doubt. But of course if you don't have some amazing lines and go for the average rhyme, you are going to be dead very quickly, When you are very well known they will give you a chorus. That is because you have earned it and they try to pay attention, but know they have an uphill fight with every thing. Songs picked for a project start off like this: Everything the artist writes gets first pick. Then the producer and their publishing company catalogue. Then the "Big Dog" writers. Then known publishers who have friends that have written with the artist. About 17th down the list are outside writers. Now knowing that there are only going to be two ballads per 12 song project and those could be the career songs for the artist, they are going with the tried and true first or the way the artist wants his feelings known, which he has written himself. So your chances of even getting it heard are very slim indeed. If you get known for nothing but ballads, you are known for bringing a square peg in a round hole. Even with all the communication out there today, Internet, pod casting, Sattalite etc. AM/FM Radio is still the primary method of reaching the audience, And until every car comes equipped with an I pod as standard equipment, it will probably stay that way. Radio screams for up tempo because it sells commercial air time. That is how they stay in business. So unless you have amazing ballads, that just hit a homerun every time you are at bat, you are going to increase your odds the more mid or up tempo you get. Unless of course you are established. Or the artist. Or producer. Or have gold and platinum records. Sell a lot of those and you can write all the ballads you want. Dianne Warren does. MABBO" _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#570887 - 12/29/07 12:04 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Lynn Orloff Lynn Orloff Top 100 Poster Registered: 04/06/06 Posts: 5018 Loc: PA of the great USA	Hi Ande, Glad you shared your latest version of "Eventually" w/a female vocal version. Halie has a very interesting and great voice. You already know I'm a big fan of this song THAT SHOULD BE ON THE RADIO BY NOW !!!???!!! Anyway that's probably a good idea to show the flexibility of the lyric to be gender neutral. I'll admit my favorite rendition so far is w/the Dave Brooks vocals but Halie did do a great job and kind of gave it a Diana Krall feel. Seems she went a little deeper/lower on the verses than did Dave. What studio does Halie work out of? Very good. No offense to Halie I'm just partial to the Dave Brooks version, but she did a beautiful job as well. Best, Lynn Edited by Lynn Orloff (12/29/07 12:05 AM) _________________________ My Music at Soundclick http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=788266 Always open to collaborations $\:\)$ God Bless Our Military!!!
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#571144 - 12/30/07 10:15 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Lynn Orloff]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Saturday, Dec 29th 2007 Corresponded with Donna G on our song she wanted the bridge to be smart and sexy so I wrote a new one for it I'll post it soon I hope Halie can do a couple more demos for me before school starts sent a few "checking in" emails to writers who are working on my lyrics read very cool blogs by john arthur martinez http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=73543296&blogID=342398611 and megan conner http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=25199812&blogID=341703905 I suggest writers subscribe to myspace blogs of their favorite writers and artists Last night a member of drum jam called me and invited me to their gig in austin on new years http://www.myspace.com/drumjamaustin Hi Lynn, you're welcome, great to hear from you I'm a fan of Halie and always wanted a female demo for eventually, by the way, an artist from corpus christi has asked to cut eventually. Halie recorded it in her home studio. Originally Posted By: Lynn Orloff Hi Ande, Glad you shared your latest version of "Eventually" w/a female vocal version. Halie has a very interesting and great voice. You already know I'm a big fan of this song THAT SHOULD BE ON THE RADIO BY NOW !!!???!!! Anyway that's probably a good idea to show the flexibility of the lyric to be gender neutral. I'll admit my favorite rendition so far is w/the Dave Brooks vocals but Halie did do a great job and kind of gave it a Diana Krall feel. Seems she went a little deeper/lower on the verses than did Dave. What studio does Halie work out of? Very good. No offense to Halie I'm just partial to the Dave Brooks version, but she did a beautiful job as well. Best, Lynn
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#571510 - 12/31/07 07:35 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Sunday, Dec 30 2007 went through my "Oct 4, 2007 - Dec 20th 2007" songwriting journal, typed down my favorite song ideas and lyric starts worked a bit more on the song I'm writing with Donna G hope to have something soon Mon Dec 31 2007 Heard back from Harold Payne on a song we're working on I met Harold at Austin's JPF road tour several years ago, He was traveling with Brian Austin Had a nice talk with Sandy Knox today Got some nice responses to my JPF collaborator thread that I bumped http://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=179904 I posted Halie's demos of "That Magic" and Eventually at the same time on songramp for some reason Eventually has gotten twice as many listens as That Magic http://www.songramp.com/homepage.php?userid=8001 _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#571532 - 12/31/07 10:30 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
gary alex choppick gary alex choppick Serious Contributor Registered: 12/20/07 Posts: 84 Loc: ontario canada	galexc500@yahoo.com _________________________ gary alexander choppick
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#571741 - 01/01/08 07:15 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: gary alex choppick]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Tuesday Jan 1, 2007 not sure what this means Originally Posted By: g.. galexc500@yahoo.com today I dug up a Jimmy Buffet type lyric I wrote a while back did some rewriting then offered it to moker jarrett here at JPF he liked it so maybe we'll have a new song a few years ago I started a really good New Years Resolution song, I placed it in a list of song ideas and Donna Gailbraith liked it but I hadn't finished it, I finished a first draft this week then kept tweaking it, I really like how it's taken shape, I was hoping to get it done before new years I really like how the bridge has taken shape I'll post it when we have a draft I started a lyric idea that contains the word debauchery worked on a wonderful christian lyric with Tammy Edwards I feel we progressed it to a presentable first draft which I sent to a producer friend to see if it interests him I've got a situation, I placed one of the best lyrics I've ever written with a really wonderful nashville based artist/songwriter around March 2007 and he's still hasn't sent me a draft It's one of the best hooks I've ever come up with but I'm getting ancy, I'd really need to hear from him think I'll shoot him an email _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#571898 - 01/02/08 12:40 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Wed Jan 2nd, 2008 worked with Tammy Edwards last night on a lyric to present to a Nashville Producer for an artist project, used JPF messaging now we wait to see what's next this part might take months This same producer told me he's cutting another song I cowrote with him for his own project. Havent heard a rough yet. I cast my Grammy votes today. I'll be in Tampa Fri Jan 5th - Wed Jan 9th Thu Jan 10th I'm attending the Austin Grammy Career Day Event I submitted my app to run as a Texas Grammy Governor 2008 - 2010 _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#573486 - 01/07/08 06:46 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Monday January 7th 2008 I'm in Tampa at Imaging USA 2008 it's a big photography event Went to the expo, while there I saw Jeff Zimmer with http://www.theslideshowcompany.net Joe Refano with http://www.brokenjoeyrecords.com and I met Ali Handal with http://www.triplescoopmusic.com Many professional photographers are looking for excellent music to license in their slide shows and DVDs Photodex has an awesome slide show creation program http://photodex.com/ Heard from Carl Thiel, I invited him to work on a song I wrote for the University of Texas. He serves on the Texas Grammy Board with me. Heard from Tammy Edwards, we need to get another song cooking, she's such a talent. _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#573725 - 01/08/08 03:01 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Tuesday January 8th 2008 does anyone read this feel free to comment sent an email to Jeff Zimmer who I saw at Imaging USA about a song and a project that might interest him and help his company heard back from john Arthur martinez on a song idea I sent him a while back it interests him and he wants in did a little more work on the lyric since all I sent him was a chorus, called him, he was kind to answer but was in a meeting and on the other line spoke with an artists manager and producer last night, they want to cut eventually
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#573744 - 01/08/08 03:56 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Brian Austin Whitney Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Registered: 04/20/01 Posts: 16095 Loc: Indianapolis, IN USA	I am reading it.. = ) _________________________ Brian Austin Whitney Founder Just Plain Folks jpfolkspro@aol.com Skype: Brian Austin Whitney "Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney
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#573911 - 01/09/08 07:11 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]
Lynn Orloff Lynn Orloff Top 100 Poster Registered: 04/06/06 Posts: 5018 Loc: PA of the great USA	"they want to cut "Eventually" well it's about time! $\:\)$ Edited by Lynn Orloff (01/09/08 07:12 AM) _________________________ My Music at Soundclick http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=788266 Always open to collaborations $\:\)$ God Bless Our Military!!!
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#573918 - 01/09/08 07:42 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Lynn Orloff]
Kevin Emmrich Kevin Emmrich Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/24/07 Posts: 8429 Loc: Crozet, VA	Ande, I just read this all today. I will definitely put it on my to-do list every day. I appreciate all the time you take to help educate your fellow (or wanna be) songwriters. Keep doing it, I think a lot of people are paying attention. By the way, here is a throw-away song I did with the word "debauchery: in it (lol): http://soundclick.com/share?songid=5494697 Kevin _________________________ *"Make Every Line Count"* Kevin at Soundclick and ... more Soundclick skype: Kevin.Emmrich
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#574171 - 01/09/08 09:45 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Kevin Emmrich]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Wednesday January, 9th 2008 Hi Brian glad to read you're reading this Hi Lynn thanks for your comment about "Eventually" hope it works out, cuts ain't final till they're vinyl Hi Kevin, glad to hear from you keep writing Today I flew from Tampa to Austin, we had plane problems and waited 3 hours before out plane took off did a little work in on a few lyrics when I got home there was 1) a $217 check from ASCAP, $200 was my ASCAP plus award and 17 was payments for previous foreign airplays 2) a demo from Halie Loren, I've asked her to do a few more hope she can before she get's too busy tomorrow I have Austin's Grammy Career day, I'm serving as a facilitator for the songwriting breakouts with Monte Warden Today I caught up on Gary Powell's blog http://www.garypowell.com/blogs/ check out his 2007 year in review post http://www.garypowell.com/blogs/session-notes/2007-year-review/
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#574291 - 01/10/08 06:00 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Wednesday January 9th, 2008 got this email from my cowriter Tommy Byrd, Last year we wrote My Forever Family. to help hard to adopt children find families. http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=55107 http://www.heartgallerytexas.com/portraits/ http://www.heartgallerytexas.com/Media/Media%20Archives/Song%20release%20_Final.pdf ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Here's hoping everyone is having a good new year! And here is the link to a story that was run on CBS 8 in San Diego. It focuses on kids in the foster care program. CBS 8 chose MY FOREVER FAMILY for the sound track. We are honored and pleased to have a part in this production. Check it out. http://www.cbs8.com/community/adopt8/story.php?id=113259 http://www.cbs8.com/flv/video_pop_hd3.php?startID=113259 See you soon, Kathy & Tommy http://www.byrdandstreet.com http://myspace.com/byrdandstreet
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#574815 - 01/11/08 04:09 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Thursday January 10th, 2008 Thanks to eveyone who commented on Eventually I plan to write my comments and thanks to you soon I bumped the thread because I got an new demo http://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=231855 Did y'all notice that Jason Blume is now on MySpace got a friend invite from him yesterday. I gladly accepted Grammy Career Day in Austin at UT I bought my wife's Canon Rebel and took many photos plus I worked as a facilitator / introducer in Monte Warden's Songcrafter workshop. Monte cowrote "Desperately" with Bruce Robison for George Strait who performed in Austin last night at the Erwin Center. Saw my buddy Gary Powell and sat in on his "voice class" he's a great instructor, great producer and freakishly brilliant I suggest y'all catch up and subscribe to his blog at http://www.GaryPowell.com Met Hillary with http://www.theFlighingAs.com she has a lovely voice Saw Lauren Tenney, she's a wonderful high school singer that I introduced to Gary Bowling for Soup closed the event they were hilarious and entertaining. Saw Carl Thiel, he sang me the melody on the UT song we're working on Met Emily Kaye who's started Proud Pappa music Got a facebook message from a film producer (not spam) who's looking for a raunchy strip club type song similar to "Pour Some Sugar on Me" to use in a scene so I sent her an message with songs in my catalog that might work. then followed up with phone calls, finally reached her but she was in a production meeting. I may attempt to cowrite such a song just to add another one to my catalog and create a short term project / challenge _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#574901 - 01/11/08 11:15 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Friday, January 11 2007 started a new lyric I'm digging they always tend to come in bits and pieces halie put up a video of her performing her song ALONE on youtube http://www.youtube.com/halieloren kara dioguardi put up a blog http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=99668840&blogID=346531858 _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#575156 - 01/12/08 09:36 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Lynn Orloff Lynn Orloff Top 100 Poster Registered: 04/06/06 Posts: 5018 Loc: PA of the great USA	Ande you are indeed organized, motivated, energetic, focused and dedicated! Enjoying your blog. _________________________ My Music at Soundclick http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=788266 Always open to collaborations $\:\)$ God Bless Our Military!!!
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#575181 - 01/12/08 11:14 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Lynn Orloff]
Emily Sanders Emily Sanders Top 100 Poster Registered: 08/28/02 Posts: 4612 Loc: Santa Monica, CA	Cool stuff, Ande....thanks for sharing $\:\)$ Emily _________________________ http://emilysanders.net http://cdbaby.com/cd/emilysanders http://angelcitychorale.com
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#575266 - 01/13/08 10:23 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Lynn Orloff]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Saturday, January 12th, 2007 Hi Lynn, Thank you for your compliments Success in songwriting comes from conistent daily actions Originally Posted By: Lynn Orloff Ande you are indeed organized, motivated, energetic, focused and dedicated! Enjoying your blog. Hi Emily great to hear from you, you're welcome hope your writing is going well Originally Posted By: Emily Sanders Cool stuff, Ande....thanks for sharing $\:\)$ Emily I'm going to the Grammy's next month, (they're Sunday Feb 10th) I: scheduled time off from work, bought my tickets, got hotel reservations on Hotwire and booked the air. Just need to rent a car I'll be in LA Fri Feb 8 - Tue Feb 12th MAIL Call: songwriters never know what will arrive in the Mail on any particular day Friday: I received an invite to the Recording Academy's Special Merit Awards Ceremony and Nominee Reception on Saturday Feb 9th I filled out my RSVP card and will send it back Monday Saturday: the tracks for Eventually and That Magic arrived from Halie and I had a nice conversation with her. I've budgeted to spend $800 to have her do 4 more demos. I'd like her to demo, My Forever Family first so I can offer it to agencies that work with hard to adopt children. A new demo would give me a reason to contact them all again. I waited for an hour in a lobby while my daughter danced, during that time I fished for hooks. One way I fish for hooks is I flip through magazines looking for interesting phrases, when I find one I write it down in my latest songwriting journal. (my songwriting journals are hardbound 9.5 x 11 200 page sketch books I found a few. I also worked on one of my song ideas I'd like to complete. I printed out the lyrics to "Pour Some Sugar on Me" to see if I could come up with a similar song." Haven't heard back from the movie producer yet. Need to follow up with the writers I've placed lyrics with. Been following a real interesting thread over on SongRamp someone took a writers song, called it theirs and put it in a movie. http://www.songramp.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=57759&page=83 It begins where EdWilliams wrote: OK, I'll throw out a topic. A songwriting friend of mine named Liz Miller just got word that someone released one of her songs without her permission - no license - no compensation - no nothing. Anybody got any good advice for her? ~ ~ ~ What would you do if that happened to you I'm curious to see how it unfolds Yesterday I exchnged some myspace messages with a girl who wants to record blue Holiday. I've already sent her a track and she's performed it at the Oklahoma Opry but thought my publishing on the song was with a publisher that I signed a few of my songs to. I explained to her that that publisher didn't have that song and I did.
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#575314 - 01/13/08 02:40 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
TAMERA64 TAMERA64 Serious Contributor Registered: 01/17/07 Posts: 583 Loc: USA	Thanks for the blogs Ande! I find them very informative. I think alot of people are reading yours and the other threads, they just don't always comment. I read yours everyday. Tam http://www.tammyedwards.com http://www.myspace.com/tammyedwards2
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#575324 - 01/13/08 03:47 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: TAMERA64]
Lynn Orloff Lynn Orloff Top 100 Poster Registered: 04/06/06 Posts: 5018 Loc: PA of the great USA	Two questions Ande if you don't mind and have time..... Curious why you use a sketch book as your hook book since it doesn't have lines. Do you find a lineless book advantageous and why???? Also on "Blue Holiday" (which I also enjoy) now what happens. You sent the girl the track and she performed the song, but do you benefit monetarily in anyway or are you just hoping for the exposure of the song? How does that work in this particular situation???? _________________________ My Music at Soundclick http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=788266 Always open to collaborations $\:\)$ God Bless Our Military!!!
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#575328 - 01/13/08 04:07 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Mark Kaufman Mark Kaufman Top 100 Poster Registered: 09/25/07 Posts: 5866 Loc: Minneapolis	Quote: OK, I'll throw out a topic. A songwriting friend of mine named Liz Miller just got word that someone released one of her songs without her permission - no license - no compensation - no nothing. Anybody got any good advice for her? Wouldn't that be a good reason to find an attorney and sue for her fair compensation? Might just end up settled equitably without the courts, but I think legal counsel would be a good idea at such a juncture. Might even turn out okay for her in the end...they did all the work that songwriters usually enjoy the least! $\:\)$ *Edit:* I'm assuming this was released on a label. But if this was just someone putting their own performance of the song on Soundclick or something like that, I'd contact them personally first. Could end up being the start of a friendship, who knows---at least that person likes her work. Edited by Lyle (01/13/08 04:11 PM) _________________________ http://www.soundclick.com/MarkKaufman
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#575412 - 01/13/08 09:43 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Mark Kaufman]
Brian Austin Whitney Brian Austin Whitney Bard of the Boards Registered: 04/20/01 Posts: 16095 Loc: Indianapolis, IN USA	It's often best to simply contact the people involved and let them know they owe you X amount for their usage. Harold Payne found out a multiplatinum rap artist had used one of his songs without crediting, paying or permission (though it's not actually required to get permission to do a song that's already been released.. in this case I think there were also samples involved). Instead of raging, he was polite and professional and ended up getting exactly what he asked for (including his name being added to future copies of the multiplatinum album as well as the actual platinum records awards as well). It's not always the right move to lawyer up.. give civility a chance first, and know you always have legal action to fall back on. But hiring a lawyer often will eat up anything you'd get in return anyway. Brian _________________________ Brian Austin Whitney Founder Just Plain Folks jpfolkspro@aol.com Skype: Brian Austin Whitney "Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney
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#575422 - 01/13/08 10:37 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]
Emily Sanders Emily Sanders Top 100 Poster Registered: 08/28/02 Posts: 4612 Loc: Santa Monica, CA	Brian, I am SO glad to hear you say :give civlity a chance first" ! I am consistently amazed at the great things that happen when people are decent to each other - especially in the entertainment business $\:\)$ Emily _________________________ http://emilysanders.net http://cdbaby.com/cd/emilysanders http://angelcitychorale.com
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#575468 - 01/14/08 06:07 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Emily Sanders]
BIG JIM MERRILEES BIG JIM MERRILEES Top 100 Poster Registered: 11/27/06 Posts: 7918 Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland. UK	Brian great point about the civility working better. I bet both the songwriter and the rapper got extra mileage out of the positive publicity showing them both as good guys rather than neg publicity from a court battle. A point worth bearing in mind. I always say lawyers make enough already without making money from needless avoidable battles. They thrive on uncivility. _________________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=687727&songID=5238055
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#575838 - 01/15/08 12:26 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: BIG JIM MERRILEES]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Monday Jan 14th, 2008 24 days Fri Feb 8th till I go to LA for the Grammys pitched several songs on http://songu.com/ifs got the "no unsolicited" songs excuse from the webmaster of an artist I wanted to pitch "blue Holiday" to got several myspace messages and a youtube message from a girl in the netherlands who likes and wants to sing a few of my tunes I've been enjoying "I Believe" by Peter Searcy it was on a CD waterloo records in austin did it's catchy positive pop rock song it's the first song on http://www.myspace.com/petersearcy got an email from Jeff Zimmer with the Slideshow campany we discussed him offering to make slide shows for adoption orgs around the country that help hard to adopt kids featuring "MY Forever Family" note to readers check out and use google alerts to track topics that interest you http://www.google.com/alerts what did y'all think of the David Byrne article? David Byrne's Survival Strategies for Emerging Artists — and Megastars http://www.wired.com/entertainment/music/magazine/16-01/ff_byrne Hi Tam, Great to hear from you glad you read it let's write more songs Originally Posted By: TAMERA64 Thanks for the blogs Ande! I find them very informative. I think alot of people are reading yours and the other threads, they just don't always comment. I read yours everyday. Tam http://www.tammyedwards.com http://www.myspace.com/tammyedwards2 Hi Lynn, I prefer using a lineless book, that's all RE: Blue Holiday, that artist may cut a not for sale demo no money for us on that, just being nice guys ask her to send me a copy of what she records, plus credit the writers, & producers Originally Posted By: Lynn Orloff Two questions Ande if you don't mind and have time..... Curious why you use a sketch book as your hook book since it doesn't have lines. Do you find a lineless book advantageous and why???? Also on "Blue Holiday" (which I also enjoy) now what happens. You sent the girl the track and she performed the song, but do you benefit monetarily in anyway or are you just hoping for the exposure of the song? How does that work in this particular situation???? Mark, the person who used the song is wealthy and can spend circles around liz, best not to hunt butterflys with a bazooka Originally Posted By: Mark Kaufman Quote: RE Liz: Wouldn't that be a good reason to find an attorney and sue for her fair compensation? Might just end up settled equitably without the courts, but I think legal counsel would be a good idea at such a juncture. Might even turn out okay for her in the end...they did all the work that songwriters usually enjoy the least! $\:\)$ *Edit:* I'm assuming this was released on a label. But if this was just someone putting their own performance of the song on Soundclick or something like that, I'd contact them personally first. Could end up being the start of a friendship, who knows---at least that person likes her work. Hi Brian, Civility is the way to go, Harold is a class act, I'm cowriting a song with him hope to hear something soon [quote=Brian Austin Whitney]It's often best to simply contact the people involved and let them know they owe you X amount for their usage. Harold Payne found out a multiplatinum rap artist had used one of his songs without crediting, paying or permission (though it's not actually required to get permission to do a song that's already been released.. in this case I think there were also samples involved). Instead of raging, he was polite and professional and ended up getting exactly what he asked for (including his name being added to future copies of the multiplatinum album as well as the actual platinum records awards as well). It's not always the right move to lawyer up.. give civility a chance first, and know you always have legal action to fall back on. But hiring a lawyer often will eat up anything you'd get in return anyway. Brian Hi Emily, nice to hear from you Originally Posted By: Emily Sanders Brian, I am SO glad to hear you say :give civlity a chance first" ! I am consistently amazed at the great things that happen when people are decent to each other - especially in the entertainment business $\:\)$ Emily Hi Jim, thanks for commenting Originally Posted By: BIG JIM MERRILEES Brian great point about the civility working better. I bet both the songwriter and the rapper got extra mileage out of the positive publicity showing them both as good guys rather than neg publicity from a court battle. A point worth bearing in mind. I always say lawyers make enough already without making money from needless avoidable battles. They thrive on uncivility.
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#575851 - 01/15/08 01:35 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Mark Kaufman Mark Kaufman Top 100 Poster Registered: 09/25/07 Posts: 5866 Loc: Minneapolis	I agree about civility first. But if the wealthy one were to steal my song, shut me out and tell me to take a hike...at the very least, my squeaky little voice would make some noise about it. _________________________ http://www.soundclick.com/MarkKaufman
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#575968 - 01/15/08 11:39 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Mark Kaufman]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Tuesday January 15th, 2008 I'm sick today, feel crappy Have you heard about the Indie Venue Bible? https://nt4.magma.ca/bigmeteor/ivbaras_order.cfm enjoyed watching AI 2008 enjoyed MAB's story about SHOES on http://www.songramp.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=57759&page=84 and MAB's advice on writing songs on http://www.songramp.com/mod/forumpro/showthread.php?thread_id=57759&page=85 Mark nice to hear from you again, Originally Posted By: Mark Kaufman I agree about civility first. But if the wealthy one were to steal my song, shut me out and tell me to take a hike...at the very least, my squeaky little voice would make some noise about it. _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#576030 - 01/16/08 08:06 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Kevin Emmrich Kevin Emmrich Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/24/07 Posts: 8429 Loc: Crozet, VA	Ande, I think I am going to try and find the time to read all 85 pages of the "Marc Alan Barnette's question and answers" thread! Kevin _________________________ *"Make Every Line Count"* Kevin at Soundclick and ... more Soundclick skype: Kevin.Emmrich
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#576101 - 01/16/08 12:46 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Kevin Emmrich]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	thats a huge task, I started following it 4 months ago when it had half the posts took me a few days to catch up Originally Posted By: Kevin Emmrich Ande, I think I am going to try and find the time to read all 85 pages of the "Marc Alan Barnette's question and answers" thread! Kevin
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#576148 - 01/16/08 04:57 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
TAMERA64 TAMERA64 Serious Contributor Registered: 01/17/07 Posts: 583 Loc: USA	HI Ande! I hope you feel better today. $\:\)$ It is no fun feeling sick and yucky! Hang in there! It will get better. Can't wait to get our first song demo'd! Talk to you soon! Tammy http://www.tammyedwards.com http://www.myspace.com/tammyedwards2
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#576181 - 01/16/08 06:15 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Wednesday January 16th, 2008 Hi tammy great to hear from you can't wait to hear or song demoed Still sick stayed home enjoyed watching AI 2008 last night several of the singers who were finalists were already myspace friends of mine look forward to seeing more tonight with the Dallas AI auditions today I got a message on my cell phone from Harold Payne I called him back and spoke with him on today on a song we're cowriting, we talked for a while then he sang it over the phone he made a few lyric changes, it sounded excellent I'm very excited about it and look forward to sharing it with y'all wrote a silly lyric for a female blues singer today this just in a while back I pitched Ain't Gonna Stop in the songu pitch # 368 (below are the details) http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=32584 this email just arrived Subject: SongU Spin N' Pitch #368: Interest in your song! Dear Ande, Good news! Our special Spin N' Pitch guest for pitch ID #368 has expressed an interest in your song ain't gonna stop. We have listed below the contact information we have on file for you. If this is correct, you do not need to reply to this email. But if your contact information has changed, please let us know by replying to this email. Also be sure to make any changes in your "My Account" area at SongU.com so that it will be correct for next time. Name: Ande Rasmussen phone2: Email: Please note, at this time we will forward your contact information to the guest. They will likely re-listen as they narrow down the songs. Should they decide to pursue your song further after re-listening, they will contact you directly. Keep up the good work and congratulations! Sincerely, The Spin N' Pitch Staff Pitch#: 368 - NEW! Film/TV/Advertising/Media. Pitch to Music Supervisor. NY-based company, Audiobrain, is compiling original musical content for NBC Sports and NBC Olympics for use in their broadcasts, website, and VOD. Music selected will receive the highest priority for airing. They have agreed to listen to 2 songs at a time from SongU.com members on an ongoing basis. What type of songs should you pitch? They must be master/broadcast quality demos. Instrumentals and background music will have the highest priority. Orchestral and rock music are widely used as well. However, any genre and tempo, male or female, will be considered as long as the lyrics fit an emotion of sports (i.e. Champion, Reach for the Gold, Stronger). Important: You must own the material, master recording and publishing AND you must be clear of obligations from other talent that may be performing on your track. In other words, you must have signed clearances from all musicians and vocalists who perform on your demo, or they must have been paid at Master rate. What's the deal? You will retain all your writer and publisher rights and revenues. However, since the music may go across multiple platforms writers will be asked to sign a "zero dollar waiver", meaning that you 1) understand that there may be re-broadcast on another medium such as the NBC sports website, and 2) there are no additional payments that will be made for sync and master licenses for the other medium except in a for-sale product. Re-broadcast is usually for a very limited timeframe. NBC will submit music cue sheets to ASCAP, BMI and SESAC for any use where applicable. You will be paid the performance royalties directly from your performing rights society. Royalties are variable based on how many markets the piece airs, whether or not it is primetime, etc. SU MEMBERS: This is great opportunity for you. Please pitch appropriately. Edited by Ande Rasmussen (01/16/08 06:47 PM)
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#576211 - 01/16/08 07:16 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Kevin Emmrich Kevin Emmrich Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/24/07 Posts: 8429 Loc: Crozet, VA	Quote: thats a huge task, I started following it 4 months ago when it had half the posts took me a few days to catch up Wow! Are you right about that! I have only finished pages 1 and 2 and I'm worn out. Kevin _________________________ *"Make Every Line Count"* Kevin at Soundclick and ... more Soundclick skype: Kevin.Emmrich
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#576595 - 01/17/08 11:00 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Kevin Emmrich]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Thursday January 17 2008 I found a video of the Skinny Jeans song I cowrote with Jen Rathbun http://www.jenrathbun.com/Skinny_Jeans-lrg.wmv Heard from a producer on a lyric Tammy and I cowrote we need to wait longer till he shows the lyric to the artist bought an olympus digital recorder today got this email from brent allen Hey there Ande, Happy New Year to you – it was good to see you at the Grammy event last year. I won’t be able to attend the Grammies this year, unfortunately, due to being on the road so much and also lack of funds. J I’m looking for new original material do perform during shows, and wanted to see if you could post something in an upcoming IFS issue. Traditional to contemporary country but NO Nashville fluff stuff like Rascal Flatts or Keith Urban. Asleep at the Wheel, Dale Watson or George Strait themed and the like can be sent over to info@brentallen.net. We’ll work them up to play on stage at shows, and if they’re really good, it may end up on a future album. Thanks buddy – hope to see you again soon, -brent Brent Allen "Heart of a Poet, Soul of an Artist" http://www.brentallen.net http://www.myspace.com/brentallenmusic New CD on sale NOW! http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/brentallen
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#576912 - 01/18/08 11:31 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Friday January 18th, 2008 Today I wrote a lyric to the title Chillax and pitched it to Steve Brooks I called him driving to a gig he was intrigued so I emailed it to him thanks to Gary Andrews I just found out about Craig Bickhardts blog http://ninetymilewind.blogspot.com and look forward to reading it it all http://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=576907 I loved the blog Craig did from his website I wrote about it several years ago in IFS craig is an excellent songwriter and an insigtful writer http://www.craigbickhardt.com/songwritersjournal.html Craig Cowrote THRIVE with Helen Darling and Jack Sundrud http://helendarlingmusic.com/listen.html it's one of my favorite songs by helen have a listen Helen cowrote "Bring On the Rain" Here's the story I shared about it http://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=2&Number=158222 I'm past due to launch an IFS issue http://www.SongWriterBlog.com
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#577293 - 01/20/08 12:39 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Saturday January 19th, 2008 started a really cool MLK song saw juno friday and found a couple cool song ideas in the movie, as I'm sure every songwriter who sees the movie will (remember my theory of song ideas: the easier a song idea is to find, the more songwriters will have found the idea and already written it.) I was suprised with some of the songs they put in the movie especially as the end credits rolled If I told my wife I want to write a song where I repeat "I am a vampire" over and over she'd say that's stupid, go write something from your heart, but low and behold there it is in Juno as the end credits roll. Yep I'm one of those dorky movie goers who watches the end credits to see who wrote what songs. swam in a meet yesterday smashed my right hand on the wall in the 50 bk it's puffy and sore today hope BMI does an LA workshop on Grammy weekend like they did last year http://bmi.com/events/entry/3618 _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#577915 - 01/22/08 04:45 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Sunday January 21, 2008 a girl from belgium asked to record and make youtube videos of a few of my songs, my cowriters said sure so I sent her tracks to Blue Holiday http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=34592 We Ran Out of Time Dave Brooks http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=12392 Tiffany Derose http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewprivtrack.php?trackid=48767 find your favorite singer songwriters on youtube subscribe to their pages then you'll get updates when they post new videos same with myspace subscribe to their blogs Edited by Ande Rasmussen (01/22/08 04:46 AM) _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#578421 - 01/23/08 12:09 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Tuesday Jan 22nd 2008 I've got an extra ticket to the grammy's (ticket and after party) (the person I got it for can't go) I've been working on placing it, so far no takers. made more progress on my MLK lyric started a new song idea, based on a service club's 2008 theme recently an person wanting to make an animal adoption video asked my cowriter if they could use "My Forever Family" as the back ground music My thought was "why not" recently I saw the ASPCA commercial with Sara McLachlan, it plays "Arms of the Angel" then she talks at the end did a mentoring session last night with a songwriter I encouraged him to cowrite, get procritiques and get better demos my cowriter was afraid that use might brand the song as an animal adoption song so he told them no. then he went and wrote and recorded a pretty good song for animal adoption similar to "You've got a friend in me" I wish he would have invited me to cowrite the animal rescue song with him. What do you think about that?
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#579034 - 01/25/08 11:51 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Thursday, January 24, 2007 last night I got an email from Harold Payne it was an mp3 of the song I'm cowriting with him. It sounded great I'm very excited about this song http://affinityrecords.com/haroldpayne.cfm http://myspace.com/haroldpayne got this email from a cowriter "Hey Ande, How are you at writing lyrics to existing melodies? Would you be interested in writing/filling in words to an existing song that already has melody and phrasing? I've handed over songs to lyricists with mixed results, so I wanted to see if this is something that I could keep you in mind for. take care, ~ ~ ~ my response to him was: hi, i've had mixed results but i'll take a crack i tend to work best writing to a piano melody track i'm better at editing lyrics or filling in the blanks on started lyrics writing to a track is like solving a suduko puzzle I'd say send one, put a deadline on it, when I send you lyrics: you have the with the right to accept, reject or rewrite them i've got a lyric I'm thinking about sending your way Ande PS "We ran out of time" is an example of one song I wrote to a track the track was "Marks' Song" http://cdbaby.com/cd/betsyfoster2 here's where you can hear "We Ran Out of Time" http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=12392 mez Edited by Ande Rasmussen (01/25/08 11:51 AM) _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#579338 - 01/26/08 05:01 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Friday, January 25th, 2008 been enjoying the music of Delta Goldrem loved her songs on myspace http://www.myspace.com/deltagoodrem http://www.deltagoodrem.com/ John Shanks produced her last CD _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#579523 - 01/27/08 01:32 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Saturday January 26th & Sunday January 27th, 2008 In 2 weeks I'll be at the Grammy's finally launched a new IFS Issue http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/DIFS/message/776 my friend and cowriter Tony Walsh has been working with anne lorelle and invited me to meet with them, cowrite, and submit lyrics http://www.annelorelle.org http://www.myspace.com/annelorelle posted at the AI songwriter thread http://www.americanidol.com/myidol/forums/topic/?tid=806957 pitched several songs at http://www.songu.com/ifs pitching Pitched Look Up to Dad and If Only I could http://www.songramp.com/mod/mps/viewtrack.php?trackid=14915 on this one below All genres. Specialty Project. ASAP. Our friend Quint Randle is doing the A&R and co-producing a "Father's Day" tribute to Dad's compilation CD. He is seeking "Master Quality" (or close to it) original songs (all styles) paying tribute to fathers, or about fathers, grandfathers, father/child relationships, etc. This can be a previously released track, HIGH-quality demo, or totally new. The compilation CD is set to be distributed and promoted in a regional bookstore chain (25+ stores), etc., for Father's Day. Writer(s) must own rights to the master recording. _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#580222 - 01/29/08 04:10 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Monday January 28th, 2008 Several years ago I cowrote "Hand Over Your Heart" with Abi Tapia http://abitapia.com/ she cut it on "her one foot out the door" CD it's the 9th track you can hear it at: http://cdbaby.com/cd/abitapia2/from/ande The CD was produced by Chris Gage his wife Christine Albert serves on the Tx Grammy board with me Christine called yesterday and ask if I'd be willing to sign a copub deal on that song, she said she has a relationship with a big Nashville publisher and they are looking for Texas songs. I said "Sure, I'll be happy to what ever Abi did." Abi Tapia is a huge talent, I fell in love with her song "Back To Back" http://cdbaby.com/cd/abitapia/from/ande She is back in the studio working on her 3rd CD with Chris Gage. Can't wait to hear it. _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#580928 - 01/31/08 12:31 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Somebody asked me What is your songwriting process? So I wrote it down sometimes I skip a few steps I tend to following the lyric writing guidelines I described in http://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537816 but here's how most songs come together for me Ande's Songwriting Process 01) Fish for Hooks and find excellent song ideas: I am always looking for titles, hooks, stories, or situations to write songs about. when I find an idea, I ask myself has it ever been done before, I want to find a unique angle or title sometimes I invite potential collaborators to read through lists of my song ideas then pick one or a few faves, then I/we focus on getting the ones they like to a solid first draft) I keep a songwriting journal, I am very disciplined about writing ideas down in it. when I have enough of a song going I transfer what I have into my computer I put them in my email archive and or in a word doc. Many times I'll google the title and the phrase to see where on the web it comes up I also do title searches on BMI.com and ASCAP.com I think about who'd want to hear it who'd want to sing it what sort of emotion it stirs 02) write the chorus I want the chorus to be simple, catchy, easy to remember, hard to forget, well crafted, rhymy, my choruses tend to have short phrases I look at syllable patterns of each line repetition of the title correct placement of the title which is covered at: http://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=537816 03) write the verses, ( I write way more lines than I need and attempt to edit it down to the very best) 04) write bridge or bridges (usually have several alternatives to offer) 05) complete first draft lyric 06) let it sit for a while 07) rewrite it on my own 08) get peer critiques & rewrite some more if necessary 09) attempt to place it with a collaborator 10) collaborator send lyric modifications and a rough recording 11) listen to first draft recording 12) rewrite and let it sit a while 13) ask for peer critiques 14) get pro critiques 15) rewrite 16) if we feel it's ready to demo, we demo it at this point I want my demos to sound like they were done by professional songwriters I prefer cowriters who can create excellent demos in their home studios 17) if we're pleased with the demo I put it up on web and start pitching it My process is kinda complex but it's what works for me. Usually songs arrive in bits and pieces. _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#580936 - 01/31/08 12:59 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Kathy Bampfield Kathy Bampfield Serious Contributor Registered: 01/30/04 Posts: 1123 Loc: Norristown, PA, USA	Andy, I like the steps but why don't you put "how" you go about each step....details are good! _________________________ Kathy katherine bampfield home
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#581011 - 01/31/08 03:23 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Kathy Bampfield]
Dave Rice Dave Rice Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/20/05 Posts: 3188 Loc: Glen Rose, TX , USA	Interesting process! I usually come up with a phrase or expression or something uniquely colloquial and start toying with a song idea. The worst time of all is like 2:00 AM and I have to force myself to get up and put it down on paper... otherwise, it's gone forever. I'll usually put down a verse or two and let it simmer for awhile. If a melody comes to mind, I'll crank up the old arranger and try to get the rudiments of a preliminary song recorded 'cause I can't read a note of music. With a rough lyric and usually rougher melody, at least I have something recorded to continue work after my wife interrupts with her list of chores for me to accomplish. Sometimes I'll finish a song in less than an hour (thanks to the arranger and my digital recorder, etc.) but I've noticed that during the last year, I'm taking longer, writing fewer and really spending more time sharpening each creation. I always keep a record of what I've done, exact keyboard settings including instrument volumes so I can pick up where I left off whether its a day or two years later. Compared to your process, Ande... I am more or less flying by the seat of my pants but it works for me. It's the singing part that really wears me out. Often, I'll make anywhere from three to twelve cuts before I think a song is ready to start getting serious about. Now if only I had paid more attention in Marketing 101. Pitching is the most difficult part of the process and is evidence of my lack of experience at networking. Thanks for an interesting post. Dave http://www.xenaRadio.com/David_Lynn_Rice/ Edited by Dave Rice (01/31/08 03:25 PM) _________________________ Fame is fleeting... money will last a little longer... but a good song is forever! Showcase Your Music
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#581128 - 01/31/08 08:14 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Dave Rice]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Thursday January 31st, 2008 Hi Kathy, very nice to hear from you I went back in and edited my process post adding details Hi David, Very nice to hear from you MAIL: today I got my 2007 1099 from ASCAP Sent 3 songs to Jason Blume to critque I'm an old student so he'll critique my songs but he's not accepting new students to critique but his business http://www.JasonBlume.com does critiques by prowriters and they are extremely helpful got some nice feedback on a song I have on my private page on songramp Member Reviews glenn_pattison 2008-01-30 Nice tune Ande! only thing I don't like around the end of bridge- chorus melody comes in around the same note - think it would be better to start last chorus 1st couple notes higher - nice tune! glenn AnthonyM 2008-01-30 hey ande, this is a hit-song hook - well done!...really enjoyed it... tony lps45s8tracks 2008-01-30 (;AWESOME TITLE;)Drew me right in.Love it.Thanks for the heads up. You sold me.I'm in. Your Songramp Bro.~(;Yrral Mallik;) Nitesong34 (Tammy Edwards) 2008-01-30 Nice job Ande and Harold! Great message and great tune!! Tammy:) MBarne4908 (Marc Alan Barnette) 2008-01-30 Good job Ande. Good message.I tend to agree with Glenn but for the most part you are dead on. Thanks for posting it. MAB Norman.D.Bradley 2008-01-31 Sorry little late to the party..Great Song, Wondeful Lyric, Hook Melody& Co-write and Good Demo Good Luck with it, Thanks for sharing Norman
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#581264 - 02/01/08 09:32 AM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Kester Kester Serious Contributor Registered: 09/14/03 Posts: 169	Thanks for sharing your process, Ande. I am fascinated to see that you do so much work on the song before bringing in a collaborator. In this case do you consider the collaborator a co-writer ? Do you share songwriting credits 50/50 in a situation like this where you have basically written the majority of the song? Is that common practice amongst a lot of songwriters you know? Could you share with us your thinking on that? What do you find to be pros and cons of this approach and/or co-writing in general? Hope you don't mind me hitting you with all these questions. I just found it very interesting. I mostly write alone. And all of my experiences at co-writing have been either working in the same room as the song evolves, or writing music to someone else's lyrics. I am considering trying to do more co-writing, so I am very curious about this concept. Thanks again! _________________________ please visit my music site at http://www.raucoustic.com
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#581437 - 02/01/08 04:22 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Kester]
Ande Rasmussen Ande Rasmussen Top 100 Poster Registered: 02/11/01 Posts: 2259 Loc: Martindale, TX, USA	Hi Kester, You're welcome In this case do you consider the collaborator a co-writer? absolutely Do you share songwriting credits 50/50 in a situation like this where you have basically written the majority of the song? usually, there are some songs where I didn't write the majority and negotiated lower splits like 25 me 75 them I just want my cowriters to feel it's fair, like me and be willing write again with me, or keep the door open to present new song ideas and lyrics usually song splits don't determine how to allocate profits because there will probably never be any they determine how to allocate the expenses so if I'm a 50% cowriter I'll pay half the demo If I'm 25% I pay 25% Is that common practice amongst a lot of songwriters you know? most writers split 50 / 50 Could you share with us your thinking on that? I want my cowriters to feel they are being treated fair. What do you find to be pros and cons of this approach and/or co-writing in general? cowriting helps me write better songs faster I need melody writers, artists and producers cowriting is like dating write with bunches of people and find a few favorites sometimes my cowriters get cuts and activity on songs though I tend to be the rainmaker when it comes to exploiting songs and getting cuts. different people bring different sets of skills to the table. a good guideline to use is the Rotary 4 way test "Of the things we think, say or do: 1. Is it the Truth? 2. Is it Fair to all concerned? 3. Will it build goodwill and better friendships? 4. Will it be beneficial to all concerned?" _________________________ Ande Rasmus sen Ande R a s m u s s e n@aol.com Ande R a s m u s s e n.com SongRamp.com/ande MySpace.com/anders Texas Grammy Gov 06-08 grammy.com/Texas Editor Of "Inspirations for Songwriters" SongWriterBlog.com Explore the message archive To receive IFS SEND an EMPTY email to: difs-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
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#581447 - 02/01/08 04:41 PM Re: Ande's SongWriting Blog [Re: Ande Rasmussen]
Kester Kester Serious Contributor Registered: 09/14/03 Posts: 169	Great response, Ande. Thanks for sharing your insights :-) _________________________ please visit my music site at http://www.raucoustic.com
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