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I will sail my boat. Vic

Posted By: Vicarn

I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/09/18 06:35 PM

I heard someone say "if it floats your boat".
Suddenly a song popped into my head.
I hope it floats yours.
Any suggs welcome.
Vic

https://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold/i-will-sail-my-boat

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I will sail my boat ©2018 Vic Arnold

Ch.
I will sail my boat I will sail against the tide
and I'll chart my course to reach the other side
I will sail my boat and if my craft fails
I can build me another fine boat to sail
V1
When your day is long and your thoughts are heavy
You need to move on but you're not quite ready
There is peace to be found, at the top of that hill,
that bend in the river. You just need the will
Ch.
V2
On a grey, rainy Sunday in a town called lonely,
you look through the window and life stares back coldly
There's a hole in the sky where the sun seeks to shine
So just raise up your heart and then close your eyes
Ch.
Inst.
Br.
I'm up in the clouds where the snow geese fly
I'll be on my way for a while
Ch.
Posted By: Neil Cotton

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/09/18 07:23 PM

nice song about optimism


this line could have a second look for scanning "you look through the window and life stares back coldly"

I think the melody of the first chorus isn't quite the same as the others. I think they are correct.
Posted By: TC Perkins

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/09/18 09:07 PM

Americana tune with a heartfelt delivery.

I liked the tune. I really liked your vocal sound (it sounds nicely saturated), and the harmony was a nice touch. Good guitars as usual.

Mixwise, I would bring the wonderful accompaniment up in level. As much as I liked the vocal sound I would either take a bit of the lows out or just a wee bit less volume (one or the other depending on the sound you want).

Good song, great performance, and good mix.

Peace,
TC
Posted By: Calvin

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/09/18 09:30 PM

Hello Vic,


Very nicely done...........such a pleasant sound.


Calvin


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/09/18 10:05 PM

Hi Neil. Not sure what you mean but thanks for looking in.

Vic
Posted By: Travis david

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 07:49 AM

Really liked the lyric Vic. When i first read it through i thought a ballad!
Quicker pace than i envisaged but good all the same.
I think it might ve worth trying out at a slower pace to see if it works?
John
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 08:26 AM

Thanks TC. I'll give that a go. I do tend to mix vocals high.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 12:19 PM

Thank you Calvin.
I try to be pleasant.

Vic
Posted By: floyd jane

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 01:08 PM

Vic,

"On a grey, rainy Sunday in a town called lonely,
you look through the window and life stares back coldly
There's a hole in the sky where the sun seeks to shine
So just raise up your heart and then close your eyes"

THAT is a terrific verse. Nice writing. (All the way through, in fact). Solid.

Nice vocal. Nice production (I was hoping you might add in a background banjo in the last chorus).

Very enjoyable listen.

fj
Posted By: Dave Rice

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 01:25 PM

Hi Vic:

Just had my first listen and this one is perfect as a "folk song." Love that "Resonator" sound. Floyd covered my sentiments pretty well. B-T-W... speaking of "Sailing Your Boat"... I assume you know that your kinsmen (the Welsh) actually discovered America long before Columbus.

Your vocals are always darn near perfect. Well done. ----Dave
Posted By: Barry David Butler

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 01:49 PM

I Love the Song, your Voice and Style. I wish there were more singer songwriters like you...You Rock!
Posted By: Neil Cotton

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 02:24 PM

My ear stumbled on hearing that line...
Compare......

You need to move on but you're not quite ready
You look through the window and life stares back coldly

In particular...
to move on
through the window......


Look at "course" for the melody

Hope this is helpful
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 03:54 PM

Hi Travis.
I wanted it slightly slower at first but it seemed to drag a little so I upped it 15 bpm. which would be roughly 8%.
Maybe I'll try it again at some stage.
Thanks for listening.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by TC Perkins
Americana tune with a heartfelt delivery.

I liked the tune. I really liked your vocal sound (it sounds nicely saturated), and the harmony was a nice touch. Good guitars as usual.

Mixwise, I would bring the wonderful accompaniment up in level. As much as I liked the vocal sound I would either take a bit of the lows out or just a wee bit less volume (one or the other depending on the sound you want).

Good song, great performance, and good mix.

Peace,
TC

Hi again TC. I remixed it on the Soundcloud version. If you have time take another listen.

Vic
Posted By: Martin Lide

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 03:56 PM

Pretty song Vic. smile
Posted By: Nelson

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 05:17 PM

A fine crafted intro
Mighty fine vocals / harmonies.

A lovely chorus... has classic folk jam feel to it.

Excellent work as usual.
Posted By: Gavin Sinclair

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 05:47 PM

I really enjoyed this. It carries you along nicely like the wind in the sails

Nice simple catchy lyrics and melody, really well executed. I'm envious smile
Posted By: Michael LeBlanc

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 07:11 PM

Well done,Vic.All around nice write and performance. Mike
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 07:12 PM

Hi Floyd.
We missed your country here. Sit a spell. :-)
We never plan the best lines do we?
Thanks for the support and for your contribution to the title, "floats your boat" (in one of your recent posts).
Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 07:18 PM

Dave. Yes, I believe they stumbled upon it in a 1963 atlas of the world.
I suppose you'll tell me now that they made the trip in a coracle. smile

Thanks for your nice comments as usual.

Vic
Posted By: Dave Rice

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 07:41 PM

Oh ye of little faith, Sir Vic:

Prince Madog made the trip... but not in a Coracle... LOL!

You are welcome.
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 08:29 PM

Madog and Englishmen I presume, Dave.
I did hear that story, though.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 09:07 PM

Barry, you're very kind to say that.
That floats my boat today.

Thank you,
Vic
Posted By: RainyDayMan

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/10/18 09:38 PM

This is a lovely song! The pauses in the last line of your chorus (particularly after "fine boat") broke the flow a little for me. Like it was missing a syllable or two. But I thoroughly enjoyed it. smile
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 12:04 PM

Hi again, Neil.
I appreciate your response.
If you're saying that all verses have to have exact uniformity in the number of syllables they use I would question the reason why.
The Chorus is slightly different because they are meant to be remembered and so benefit from that uniformity.
Having said all that, I think a little drift away from normality is sometimes refreshing in a song.
There's a guy down the local watering hole plays 5 verses and choruses of Camptown Races without varying the melody each time. This is always the time when there seems to be a mass exodus to the toilets.
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 01:14 PM

Thanks Martin.
Sometimes it's nice to keep it simple.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 02:32 PM

Hi there Nelson.
Thank you. I'm glad it worked for you.

Vic
Posted By: Neil Cotton

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Vicarn
Hi again, Neil.
I appreciate your response.
If you're saying that all verses have to have exact uniformity in the number of syllables they use I would question the reason why.
The Chorus is slightly different because they are meant to be remembered and so benefit from that uniformity.
Having said all that, I think a little drift away from normality is sometimes refreshing in a song.
There's a guy down the local watering hole plays 5 verses and choruses of Camptown Races without varying the melody each time. This is always the time when there seems to be a mass exodus to the toilets.


I understand out of the box. I was just clarifying why that line felt odd when I heard it, since you said you didn't get my meaning.

You still are misunderstanding my comment about the chorus...chorus to chorus there is a different melody on the word "course" The first should be as the last 2.
Posted By: David Snyder

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 03:20 PM


Vic,

This is my favorite song and mix of yours so far. It feels really "honest." I "believe it." The authenticity is just dripping.

I wouldn't change a thing about the mix or arrangement. It is extremely warm and the vocals sit right in that perfect pocket to me.

For Americana, or folk style songs like this (what term do they use to replace "Americana" in Britain??) you are allowed liberties with slightly different notes here and there in melody and chorus. Not that I noticed any, but if there were--well, that's what you do in this style. I think they call it embellishment. Anyway, I don't know too many other big words but I just enjoyed listening to this as a piece of finished work and a work of art.

Great job man.
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 04:19 PM

Hi again Neil.
I had another listen and I believe there is one note difference on the word "course". So you are right in that respect.
As I explained previously though, I do like to hear a very small variance in melody here and there.
Thanks again.
Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 04:21 PM

Thank you Gavin.
That's the effect I was after. Now I'm pleased.

Vic
Posted By: Neil Cotton

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Vicarn
Hi again Neil.
I had another listen and I believe there is one note difference on the word "course". So you are right in that respect.
As I explained previously though, I do like to hear a very small variance in melody here and there.
Thanks again.
Vic

Cheers!
Posted By: Ricki E. Bellos

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 06:24 PM

Sweet one, Vic. I like that the chorus starts the song. It doesn't always work this well. The whole thing has a peaceful easy feeling to it, lyrically and musically.

Just wondering about the imagery of "at the top of that hill" and "I'm up in the clouds where the snow geese fly" and if they couldn't be more in keeping with the nautical theme you have going on, like "going over that swell" or "I'm out on the ocean where the dolphins fly". Just some thoughts. I really liked the feel of this overall.

Ricki
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 09:07 PM

Thanks Michael.

Vic
Posted By: TC Perkins

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/11/18 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by Vicarn
Originally Posted by TC Perkins
Americana tune with a heartfelt delivery.

I liked the tune. I really liked your vocal sound (it sounds nicely saturated), and the harmony was a nice touch. Good guitars as usual.

Mixwise, I would bring the wonderful accompaniment up in level. As much as I liked the vocal sound I would either take a bit of the lows out or just a wee bit less volume (one or the other depending on the sound you want).

Good song, great performance, and good mix.

Peace,
TC

Hi again TC. I remixed it on the Soundcloud version. If you have time take another listen.

Vic


It sounds good. The guitars are sitting where they are present in the mix at all times relative to vocal levels now. Your guitars are always nice, and are a big part of what makes your songs good.

Thumbs up!
--TC
Posted By: Deej56

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/12/18 04:08 AM

Dang, Vic, you just make it seem so easy, which is to say without exception everything I hear from you is just stellar. As much as I admire the melodies that drive your tunes, I love your way with language. There some wonderful lines here (“in a town called lonely”—sweet). This one just pours and washes over you. Well done!

Kind regards,

Deej
Posted By: E Swartz

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/12/18 04:29 AM

Hey Vic,

Very nice indeed. I enjoy Americana music..........or maybe in your case we'll call it "Briticana." No nits or sugs here! Strong lyrics for sure.

steady-eddie
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/12/18 10:10 AM

Thank you, rainydayman.
Let's hope that a syllable lost is attention found.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/12/18 10:20 AM

Hi David.
We would just call it folk music over here.

I thank you for your contribution and glad you like it.
"Embellishment" is an appropriate word for what you describe.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/12/18 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Ricki E. Bellos
Sweet one, Vic. I like that the chorus starts the song. It doesn't always work this well. The whole thing has a peaceful easy feeling to it, lyrically and musically.

Just wondering about the imagery of "at the top of that hill" and "I'm up in the clouds where the snow geese fly" and if they couldn't be more in keeping with the nautical theme you have going on, like "going over that swell" or "I'm out on the ocean where the dolphins fly". Just some thoughts. I really liked the feel of this overall.

Ricki


Ricki.
That's weird. I posted a reply to you earlier but it doesn't show up here.
Here goes again:
I replied that I would agree if it was a nautical song about sailing but it's just a metaphor for going to a nice place in your head,
as in the snow geese flying south to warmer places.

Thanks again.
Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/12/18 06:17 PM

Thanks again TC.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/12/18 09:59 PM

Hi DeeJ.
That's really nice. Thanks.
Well it probably looks easy.
Usually it takes a couple of hours a day for three days for the lyric then another day or two for the melody then a day to record.

Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/13/18 10:07 AM

Thanks Ed.
You just invented a new genre.
As I live in Wales maybe it's Welshicana.

Vic
Posted By: Janice & Bud

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/13/18 11:29 PM

"There is peace to be found, at the top of that hill,
that bend in the river. You just need the will "

We can all hope it's there and hope for that will to be there also.

Nowadays I do not have much desire to parse out a fine song (or a poor one for that matter).

We'd rather speak to the totality of the production.
As in the vocal, the arrangement and the mix all sound great on our monitors!

"Usually it takes a couple of hours a day for three days for the lyric then another day or two for the melody then a day to record."

Ah, I wish I could accomplish such in that short time. But whether the lyric or the mix I have to come back several times before finally moving on.

I think the chorus first works very well. I recently searched around the net regarding that approach and found some great songs.

We enjoyed it!

J&B


Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/14/18 01:56 PM

Hi J&B.
I wondered where you got to. :-)

Often, there's nothing but hope.

Well the time I quoted is just for the first "cut".
I do revisit a song many times after that. I've already remixed the Soundcloud version 3 times.
There always seems to be something I missed that suddenly comes to light.

Thanks again you two.
Vic
Posted By: Vicarn

Re: I will sail my boat. Vic - 02/15/18 12:13 PM

Nice to have radio play with this one.

Vic
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