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#991967 - 01/14/13 03:28 PM GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE  
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I'm sort of a Liberal except that I'm Pro Life and don't think the Violence Problem in America is a Gun Problem...Figured I'd address the issue in a song!
Hope you enjoy!
Barry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suVwE-66XhY

THEREíS A SICKNESS IN OUT COUNTRY
AND GUNS ARE NOT THE CAUSE
WE ONLY TREAT THE SYMPTOMS
AND THAT SHOULD GIVE US PAUSE

WE HAVE VIOLENT GAMES FOR KIDS
MENTALLY ILL CANíT GET ANY CARE
BULLYíS IS IN ALL OUR SCHOOLS
AND EMPATHY IS RARE


GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE
AND THE FREEDOM TO BE LEFT ALONE
TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT OURSELVES
AND TO SAFEGUARD OUR HOMES


IF YOU START TO TAKE AWAY OUR GUNS
AND START MAKING TOO MANY RULES
ITíS A LONG SLIPPERY SLOPE
AND WONTí STOP MASSACRES AT SCHOOLS


WE HAVE THE SECOND AMENDMENT
TO PROTECT US FROM TYRANNY
CANíT ALWAYS TRUST THE GOVERNMENT
WE NEED TO STAY FREE

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#991973 - 01/14/13 04:00 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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Since "apple pie" doesn't add anything but a slice of Norman Rockwell sentimentality to the story line, how about "God, guns and guts." That way you add an element of the courageous to the title and also set the worship priorities in the correct order. Just a suggestion.


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#991974 - 01/14/13 04:07 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Dan Sullivan]  
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A well-constructed song, to be sure. Good craftsmanship and well-put-together.
One thing that I would love to point you towards, is
THIS THREAD
in the "Songwriter's forum.
I think that it could give you more food for thought, for sure.

#991975 - 01/14/13 04:17 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: PopTodd]  
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i love this Barry!I think this should be sung by the school children right after they recite The Pledge Of Allegiance and sing America The Beautiful!Every morning.Mike

#992006 - 01/14/13 07:11 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Dan Sullivan]  
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I could add guts BUT I wanted to weave Apple Pie in there for Americana.....Thanks for the comment.
Barry

#992008 - 01/14/13 07:16 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: PopTodd]  
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Thanks for the comment. This is a topic I thought I'd be on the other side BUT I JUST don't agree with the Knee Jerk Attitude of the Liberals here. THE GOVERNMENT in some Future time will NOT be able to screw us over that easily.....I DO see a time in the Future where the State National Guards are in war with the Feds....I don't have a gun now BUT would like it Easy and cheap to purchase all that I want. I do think getting Mentally Ill people some intervention early....( I was a Psych Nurse and there are lots of them )...no problem with checking people out a bit more.....BUT.....I say the Founding Fathers Knew where of they Speak.

#992010 - 01/14/13 07:21 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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Great writing!


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#992015 - 01/14/13 07:48 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Caroline]  
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Outstanding Barry....you are my kinda Liberal!!

I love the tune....the title pulled me in. Thanks for the good fight!!
I dig it!!!! -Tom

#992025 - 01/14/13 08:13 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Caroline]  
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Thanks Caroline...really appreciate it.
Barry

#992080 - 01/15/13 07:55 AM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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HiYa Brother Barry!

Anybody who says they're "Pro-Life" oughta be "Anti-Gun"...& ya got no right draggin' God into this when ya remember "Thou shalt not kill" is high on the Ten Commandments.

JMO, but do ya REALLY think a buncha camo-clad Rednecks are gonna outfight a Gov't already The Best-Equipped in the WORLD in a series of minor Skirmishes???

Look what happens to those AK-47-toting Terrorists in Afghanistan when a Predator flies-by...& I've seen my share of what Napalm can do to a larger-force..in 'Nam.

Better to stick with a pistol..or two..for "Home Protection"..& leave the National Defense to the Pros..& eat some Apple Pie/Be Happy. No Sport Hunter needs a 30-round clip..either.

Guns DO kill people...Read your paper Every DAY...

So let's Tighten-Up on WHO can OWN 'Em...HOW MANY..and What KINDS.

Just one man's opinion...but doubt I'm alone.

Best Wishes, & a Big Guy-Hug,
Stan

#992103 - 01/15/13 04:05 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: "Tampa Stan" Good (D)]  
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Hey Stan,
I agree on a lot of what you say.....better background checks, better mental health and prevention, etc....BUT I do NOT Trust our Government, especially in a future time....Have you seen any drones over head lately. If I'm in a Mall and somebody starts shooting I hope SOMEBODY has a gun to shoot THEM...Too Many Guns already out there and no matter what we do the crazies and sicko's will get them....Just my opinion.
The Police and even Security come when it's too late...We are on our own unless we can protect outselves.....Barry

#992106 - 01/15/13 04:14 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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Upon further consideration, I do like you putting Guns ahead of God in the title. It's not only more subversive and cheeky, but also more accurate.


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#992113 - 01/15/13 04:42 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Dan Sullivan]  
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Mayne they oughta ban hammers then. According to the FBI there's 50 % more people killed with hammers and clubs than with rifles
Good song Barry

#992119 - 01/15/13 05:55 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Wyman Lloyd]  
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Thanks Wayne.....
Most get killed in Auto Accidents!
Just TRY and keep LOONIES from getting ANY Gun!
BUT.....we were given Free Will and now we have the Internet\.
HEY.....good title
"FREE WILL AND THE INTERNET & NOW WE'RE ALL SCREWED"
I'm more afraid of OUT OWN Government AND the way the Country is Divided....We need to find a way to have a dialogue not a two way monlogue....IF we can get past the screaming and pointing fingers, I think we'll find that we all pretty much want the same thing.....B

#992127 - 01/15/13 07:22 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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Point being that anything can be used as a weapon, but guns are MADE to KILL.
Period.
Not sayin' take away everyone's guns, but let's put some restrictions and regulations into place that actually make sense.
Nobody but somebody who plans on killing a lot of people needs assault weapons or high-capacity magazines.

#992129 - 01/15/13 07:38 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: PopTodd]  
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i'm gettin' pretty good with my sling shot just in case they take my guns away!Mike

#992130 - 01/15/13 08:16 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Good Listen my friend....a topic that will continue to be debated forever.

I disagree with everyone....

Words are the number one killer......


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#992131 - 01/15/13 08:19 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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You don't think God sent Adam and Eve from the Garden as a punishment, do you? He had a good reason. He was protecting Paradise from a human race that's been at each others throat ever since Adam tried to pin the blame for the fall from grace on Eve. Nuclear weapons, biologic and chemical weapons, AR-15s, knives, clubs and our own two hands. Violence is in the human DNA. Which doesn't mean we shouldn't take prudent measures to rein it in.


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#992142 - 01/15/13 10:07 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Steve Altonian]  
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WORDS are a real killer!!!
The message in life is so important.
How you say it and not WHAT you say.
B

#992153 - 01/15/13 11:20 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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The people who perpetrate these heinous crimes are normally found to have mental issues right? But even they can see what so many on this thread can't seem to comprehend. Its as plain as the nose on your face. Where do these attacks all take place? In gun free zones where ALL the victims will be un-armed because legal law abiding gun owners obey the laws. I've never seen a gun fire itself, and banning ar15s would not have stopped the assault at Sandyhook. Chicago has the toughest gun restrictions in the nation and yet they are averaging just under 2 homicides a day. Restricting/punishing legal law abiding gun owners will do nothing to change that because the problem is with the criminal element, and they carry whenever they go. Good song B. I think you need to come out of the closet though, yer no lib!

Todd

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#992154 - 01/15/13 11:29 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Todd Strachan]  
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As a political statement ... it is a political statement.

As song ... it is sort of unimaginative. Yea, a lot of folks will pat you on the back for stating the obvious, but gun ownership is really not under any attack that I can see. Now ammo -- that might be another story.


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#992166 - 01/16/13 12:50 AM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Todd Strachan]  
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Hey Todd.....I'm not a lib or a conservative....I just change with the issues and mostly use common sense....and my own self interest. BUT I am into the common good also.
Barry

#992186 - 01/16/13 03:51 AM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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I don't think wanting to protect our children (or grandchildren in my case) from violence is either left or right... it's a given!! How we get there is where the lines appear. I don't see the need for 30 round clips (other than machismo or to kill) but I don't see why a Bushmaster is any different than a frying pan? I have expert marksman ribbons with a variant of the Bushmaster as well as a 9 mm Glock (hell I'm qualifed on an 870, sawed off,pump shotgun too) so I know what they can do and I respect them. There must be some solution though cause all these innocents being killed is a problem crying for a solution!! OK, off my soapbox, Barry thanks for bringing this up! :))) scotty

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You are one of the responsible ones, Richard. You WOULD clear a background check.
What is the big flippin' deal with wanting to have some protections in place? Nobody is coming to your house to take away your guns. Just want some measures in place.

Oh, and by the way:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/15/hazard-college-shooting_n_2483771.html

Arming teachers will not protect us. Just more dead in the crossfire. More dead with weapons accidents.
Do you really want your kids in a classroom with loaded weapons? I don't.

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I agree with background checks on everybody and better Mental Health.....BUT just leave the laws alone.
Don't trust our Gov now or in the future....
IF a teacher or Pilot want to carry.....I say YES....
We need to protect outselves and can't wait for the Police because by the time they come it's all over.B

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Originally Posted by Barry David Butler
I agree with background checks on everybody and better Mental Health.....BUT just leave the laws alone.
Don't trust our Gov now or in the future....
IF a teacher or Pilot want to carry.....I say YES....
We need to protect outselves and can't wait for the Police because by the time they come it's all over.B

With assault rifles?

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I'm not sure about Assault Rifles for people who can pass a rigorous background check.

#992301 - 01/17/13 01:16 AM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Barry David Butler]  
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Assault Rifles should not be sold to people who are mentally ill or people who do not know how to handle a gun.

What is a quick easy test to determine these things about a gun buyer?

If they are trying to buy a gun that holds more than 10 bullets, then they either have serious anger issues or they just cant shoot straight.


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#993578 - 01/27/13 05:29 PM Re: GUNS, GOD & APPLE PIE [Re: Moosesong]  
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Barry David Butler Online content
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After the guns they are really coming for us.
Check out my Song called "ARRESTED ON ORDERS OF THE STATE"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4oyFpUrsNg

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