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#975877 - 09/09/12 06:45 PM I Will Always Be Your Friend  
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Hi All

well I'm QUITE out of practice at recording and mixing -- so forgive me for the mix etc. I've been working my cover set and trying to hone the performance aspect a bit -- that focus has definitely taken me away from doing this stuff -- but I'm trying to do some work -- just takes so long : )

As always this is open for feedback -- on any aspect
however -- I'm a singer songwriter so will work this for live performance - playing and singing at the same time --- here I TRIED to do the separate tracks needed to edit -- but I feel it loses something when I split those apart to record. Anyway
your thoughts are most welcome for arrangement etc, Thanks in advance if you listen !



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I Will Always Be Your Friend
Joice Marie 2012

There are so many things I'd like to say to you
My friend
All the roles I would play for you, but in
the end

chorus
There's no way to stand in your shoes
There's no way to know how to be you
All that I can do , to be there for you
is say I'll always be your friend

There are so many changes I could make for you
my friend
Doesn't matter to me where I lay each night, or where
I land

chorus
There's no way to stand in my shoes
There's no way to know how not to be blue
All that I can do , is be there for you
and say I'll always be your friend

Bridge
I'll go on and try to do
what's right
Leave the door open
let in some light

chorus
There's no way to stand in your shoes
All that I can do , is be there for you
and say I'll always be your friend
All that I can do , is be there for you
and say I'll always be your friend

#975895 - 09/09/12 09:11 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Joice Marie]  
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I can tell you've been playing live -- your playing and singing is very good and confident. I am always nervous about slower songs live, though. It is always a good chance to lose your audience's attention. As long as it is a mixed in with faster, more lively ones, then it might be just fine. At 4 minutes, it might be a trifle long for a slow one. Maybe after verse two, just sing the hook and go into the bridge and then final chorus?

Give it a thought. In any case, good singing and playing.


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#975898 - 09/09/12 09:46 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
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i'm really likin' this!Nice song Joice! Mike

#975909 - 09/09/12 11:55 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Has a nice vibe to it Joice.

Love the title and the sentiment of the lyric.
I can imagine you'll be singing it a lot, getting it ready to perform live so more and more story ideas will reveal themselves to you, as you work on it.

As it is though, it has a great Joan Baez feel to it.
No doubt, the audience will be glued to the stage.

Good Luck with it.

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[color:#33FF33]This is a beautiful song and a [color:#006600]LOVELY performance[/color].
Very emotional.


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#975944 - 09/10/12 11:19 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
I can tell you've been playing live -- your playing and singing is very good and confident. I am always nervous about slower songs live, though. It is always a good chance to lose your audience's attention. As long as it is a mixed in with faster, more lively ones, then it might be just fine. At 4 minutes, it might be a trifle long for a slow one. Maybe after verse two, just sing the hook and go into the bridge and then final chorus?

Give it a thought. In any case, good singing and playing.


Hi Kevin !

Thanks for the listen and nice comments. I certainly will take your arrangement proposal -- it's a good option. I agree -- I don't want to bore them before it is done ; )

Originally I was playing slower -- so I've actually cut the time down == ha ha
It's hard -- to try to keep quality up while picking - slower is better -- then the song gets long. This may work as an end of night piece as is ??? maybe --- trying to fill a 3 hour gig as a solo act --- is Not easy --- so longer songs are somewhat attractive : ) to the PLAYER !!
Thanks for good feedback !
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#975945 - 09/10/12 11:21 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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Originally Posted by Michael LeBlanc
i'm really likin' this!Nice song Joice! Mike


Thank YOU and a Big bunch for listening Mike
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#975946 - 09/10/12 11:26 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Nelson]  
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Originally Posted by Nelson
Has a nice vibe to it Joice.

Love the title and the sentiment of the lyric.
I can imagine you'll be singing it a lot, getting it ready to perform live so more and more story ideas will reveal themselves to you, as you work on it.

As it is though, it has a great Joan Baez feel to it.
No doubt, the audience will be glued to the stage.

Good Luck with it.


Hi Nelson

Thanks for your kind comments -- I don't think that I have EVER been compared to Joan - so that's an honor.

As for the 'story' the hope is to not be too specific in hopes that a listener can stand in those shoes -- it remains to be seen though -- I'll try to keep my eye on the audience. Doing covers then once in a while an original seems to allow an artist to see when people are listening ; ) jm


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#975947 - 09/10/12 11:28 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Calvin]  
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Originally Posted by Calvin
[color:#33FF33]This is a beautiful song and a [color:#006600]LOVELY performance[/color].
Very emotional.


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Good Morning Calvin !

THANK YOU for the kind words

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#975950 - 09/10/12 02:29 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Joice Marie]  
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Very nice job on this. Interesting chord structure and melody. Heartfelt lyrics too.

I don't think this is too slow or mellow for a live performance in a listening room environment (maybe in a sports bar!). Good performance.

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#975988 - 09/10/12 08:23 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Colin Ward]  
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JOICE --

I'M THINKING JUST LIKE COLIN--

I THINK THE BRIDGE COULD ADD A LITTLE TWIST I'M THINKIN': CAPS
AN OPTION SIMILAR TO THIS--


Bridge
IF I COULD RE-LIVE
ALL THOSE NIGHTS
NEXT TIME AROUND
I'D DO IT RIGHT


NICE WORK!

Mackie

#975993 - 09/10/12 09:05 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Joice Marie]  
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Originally Posted by Joice Marie
... --- trying to fill a 3 hour gig as a solo act --- is Not easy --- so longer songs are somewhat attractive : ) to the PLAYER !!...


That sounds hard. I am a three song (maybe up to a half an hour) type of guy! With that long of a set, variety has to be the main goal.

Have fun -- you are doing great.


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#976008 - 09/10/12 11:28 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
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Nice lyric, Joice - yes that is what true friends do.

Love the chord change going into the chorus... smile

I think it would work just fine in a live performance - maybe sandwiched between two songs that are a little more uptempo.

Scott

#976109 - 09/11/12 10:13 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Scott Campbell]  
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Joice,

I LOVED THAT and I am so happy to see you here and to hear you again!!

This song would appeal to anyone and you are singing it with such a beautiful tone...I really like this.

If you come down this-a-way, please let me know, I would love to meet you someday!!! (I would even try Tilton/Concord area..like an in-between destination...LOL!!)

Keep me in mind please and don't go away for so long.

Tammy

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#976132 - 09/12/12 03:45 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: TamsNumber4]  
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Loved the vocal. The emotional pitch was just perfect for the song and your voice is really lovely. I personally saw no problem at all with the pace of the song, especially given the fact that it is designed for a live performance. It has a very universal message that people should respond to instantly and your lyric keeps the message fresh. I love the way you changed the second line of the chorus to "there's no way to know how not to be blue." That line really stayed with me for it's simple wisdom. Very nice. If you ever put this performance on YouTube I would love to watch you sing it.

#976158 - 09/12/12 10:52 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Colin Ward]  
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Originally Posted by Colin Ward
Very nice job on this. Interesting chord structure and melody. Heartfelt lyrics too.

I don't think this is too slow or mellow for a live performance in a listening room environment (maybe in a sports bar!). Good performance.

Colin


Hi Colin

Thank You ! -- well I appreciate your feedback - I think you are right about the sports bar.... It is necessary - imho - to have some alternate material for different venues --- which means the set list needs to be bigger than one might estimate --- because I do not have long guitar breaks 30 songs are not enough to fill a gig --- this was the original number that was suggested to me --- but I've tested it -- and it wasn't quite there --- I'm not a Big talker between songs ha ha....

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#976159 - 09/12/12 10:54 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Mackie H.]  
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Originally Posted by Mackie H.
JOICE --

I'M THINKING JUST LIKE COLIN--

I THINK THE BRIDGE COULD ADD A LITTLE TWIST I'M THINKIN': CAPS
AN OPTION SIMILAR TO THIS--


Bridge
IF I COULD RE-LIVE
ALL THOSE NIGHTS
NEXT TIME AROUND
I'D DO IT RIGHT


NICE WORK!

Mackie


Hi Mackie

Thanks for your thoughts and offering.
I appreciate the listen

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#976161 - 09/12/12 10:57 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
Originally Posted by Joice Marie
... --- trying to fill a 3 hour gig as a solo act --- is Not easy --- so longer songs are somewhat attractive : ) to the PLAYER !!...


That sounds hard. I am a three song (maybe up to a half an hour) type of guy! With that long of a set, variety has to be the main goal.

Have fun -- you are doing great.


Thanks Kevin ! -- I appreciate the return visit and thoughts -- YES -- it's Much harder than it looks - I am NOWHERE NEAR my hopes of level --- and I have been working hard --- but frankly -- I still need to step it up and am willing. : ) jm


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#976162 - 09/12/12 11:01 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Scott Campbell]  
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Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
Nice lyric, Joice - yes that is what true friends do.

Love the chord change going into the chorus... smile

I think it would work just fine in a live performance - maybe sandwiched between two songs that are a little more uptempo.

Scott


Hi Scott

Nice to see you ! -- I'll be paying a visit to your work -- I know I have missed a Lot.
Thank you for the thoughts -- yes sandwiching is a good way to think about it.

Glad you noticed the chord change -- you are one who I admire for your changes too. Not a natural thing for me -- but this time it's where the melody wanted to go ; ) I followed my gut .

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#976289 - 09/13/12 11:12 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: TamsNumber4]  
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Originally Posted by TamsNumber4
Joice,

I LOVED THAT and I am so happy to see you here and to hear you again!!

This song would appeal to anyone and you are singing it with such a beautiful tone...I really like this.

If you come down this-a-way, please let me know, I would love to meet you someday!!! (I would even try Tilton/Concord area..like an in-between destination...LOL!!)

Keep me in mind please and don't go away for so long.

Tammy

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Ahh Tammy -- thank you thank you -- you are very kind
>>No Doubt ~I will try very hard to locate you when I go your way --- Still love Bruce Marshall and I don't get to hear him --- so I will sometime -- my current travel radius is about 20 miles LOL -- unless it's Far away for a long vacation...
but it will happen ; )

Keep working on your music ! You are worth it

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#976290 - 09/13/12 11:15 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Bobby Wayne]  
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Originally Posted by Bobby Wayne
Loved the vocal. The emotional pitch was just perfect for the song and your voice is really lovely. I personally saw no problem at all with the pace of the song, especially given the fact that it is designed for a live performance. It has a very universal message that people should respond to instantly and your lyric keeps the message fresh. I love the way you changed the second line of the chorus to "there's no way to know how not to be blue." That line really stayed with me for it's simple wisdom. Very nice. If you ever put this performance on YouTube I would love to watch you sing it.


Hi Bobby

Your comments are Quite flattering ! THANK YOU !
yes - if I do a You Tube of it I'll send a link --- There're are a couple of covers I've been wanting to do -- but time is commanded by gotta dos - life !
I really appreciate the support. !
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#976294 - 09/13/12 12:32 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Joice Marie]  
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Your voice and the performance here are maybe the best I've ever heard from you Joice. You're really improving.

Song wise, what I'm hearing is an AABA:

A) There are so many things I'd like to say to you My friend
A) All the roles I would play for you, but in the end
B) There's no way to stand in your shoes, There's no way to know how to be you
A) All that I can do , to be there for you, is say I'll always be your friend

I'm not sure you're hearing this?

What I'd suggest is trying to tweak the last A section, melodically, to sound a bit more like the 1st two A sections. I'm pretty sure your tune will be more memorable if you do this. And I wouldn't artificially divide your stanza into verse and chorus. Personally, I just wouldn't label the stanzas at all.

Also, in this context, the bridge doesn't work so well because it's pretty much a variation on the B section. I'd really suggest trying to get a bridge that stands more on it's own.

I'm not really critiquing much. It's a really nice performance.

Peace,

Ian



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#976532 - 09/15/12 11:04 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Michael LeBlanc]  
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#976659 - 09/16/12 12:08 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Ian Ferrin]  
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Originally Posted by Ian Ferrin
Your voice and the performance here are maybe the best I've ever heard from you Joice. You're really improving.

Song wise, what I'm hearing is an AABA:

A) There are so many things I'd like to say to you My friend
A) All the roles I would play for you, but in the end
B) There's no way to stand in your shoes, There's no way to know how to be you
A) All that I can do , to be there for you, is say I'll always be your friend

I'm not sure you're hearing this?

What I'd suggest is trying to tweak the last A section, melodically, to sound a bit more like the 1st two A sections. I'm pretty sure your tune will be more memorable if you do this. And I wouldn't artificially divide your stanza into verse and chorus. Personally, I just wouldn't label the stanzas at all.

Also, in this context, the bridge doesn't work so well because it's pretty much a variation on the B section. I'd really suggest trying to get a bridge that stands more on it's own.

I'm not really critiquing much. It's a really nice performance.

Peace,

Ian



Hi Ian

Thank you for the listen and Kind thoughtful feedback... I was not thinking of it as AABA -- but I will give that idea some more thought.

On the bridge -- I like my content -- but my take on what you are saying is in regard to the musical aspect -- and again -- in relation to the aaba -- I see your point : )

It's far from feeling like I know it well enough to go to a studio session with it --- so I will play around -- thank you again

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#976663 - 09/16/12 12:24 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Tom Shea]  
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Thanks a bunch Tom

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#976716 - 09/17/12 12:45 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Joice Marie]  
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Pretty song Joice. Good coffee house type song where people are there to listen to music and not sit around talking so they can appreciate the lyric and music.

Stevie

#976733 - 09/17/12 06:09 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Joice Marie]  
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Originally Posted by Joice Marie

Thank you for the listen and Kind thoughtful feedback... I was not thinking of it as AABA -- but I will give that idea some more thought.

Hi Joice,

The melody to the last 'a' section is different, but your similar chord change is, I think, what made me think of it as a 3rd 'a' section.

I listened again, and this time I was thinking you might strengthen the 'b' section by phrasing the 'no way' and 'stand' bits as the focal bits rather than 'there's', which is a pretty weak word.

Anyway, I've sent you an mp3 of what I'm hearing. Feel free (IE gratis) to use my idea if you like it. No credit necessary.

Peace,

Ian


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#976734 - 09/17/12 06:24 AM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Joice Marie]  
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Hi Friend smile

Pretty song, little adjustments could help it's overall effectiveness. One thing is don't re-intro for the second verse
on this one jump right in sooner...

One of the chorus lines was close to the verse which sometimes works when intentional or arranged a certain way. In this case it sounded like you were going back to a verse....
Also overall play around with some rhythm in the vocal.

Pretty changes as well, great vibe.
When you play live you should consider busting out a 12 string acoustic on something like this..Slow tempo songs fill out nicely with something like that.

All the best
Mike


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#976968 - 09/19/12 12:15 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Ian Ferrin]  
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Originally Posted by Ian Ferrin
Originally Posted by Joice Marie

Thank you for the listen and Kind thoughtful feedback... I was not thinking of it as AABA -- but I will give that idea some more thought.

Hi Joice,

The melody to the last 'a' section is different, but your similar chord change is, I think, what made me think of it as a 3rd 'a' section.

I listened again, and this time I was thinking you might strengthen the 'b' section by phrasing the 'no way' and 'stand' bits as the focal bits rather than 'there's', which is a pretty weak word.

Anyway, I've sent you an mp3 of what I'm hearing. Feel free (IE gratis) to use my idea if you like it. No credit necessary.

Peace,

Ian


Hi Ian

Thanks again for the explanation and demo -- I will play and consider - much appreciated thoughts.

jm


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#976970 - 09/19/12 12:21 PM Re: I Will Always Be Your Friend [Re: Mike Caro Substudio]  
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Originally Posted by Mike Caro Substudio
Hi Friend smile

Pretty song, little adjustments could help it's overall effectiveness. One thing is don't re-intro for the second verse
on this one jump right in sooner...

One of the chorus lines was close to the verse which sometimes works when intentional or arranged a certain way. In this case it sounded like you were going back to a verse....
Also overall play around with some rhythm in the vocal.

Pretty changes as well, great vibe.
When you play live you should consider busting out a 12 string acoustic on something like this..Slow tempo songs fill out nicely with something like that.

All the best
Mike



Hi Friend !

And thank you for your thoughts ! -- I was considering dropping that chord run -- to be honest --when performing, all my songs go by fast ( maybe I speed up live ) --- so the set list is not long enough-- then I think well I could add more breaks and intros,,,, so this layout came from that thinking
HOWEVER -- it practice -- it's a slow song and pace --- so cutting it back is probably the right way to go.

As for the 12 string ---- ha ha --- Great idea ! -- I had loaned mine away -- and it just was returned -- I will give that a chance to develop

Thank you very much Mike

Cheers
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