Who's Online Now
10 members (Fdemetrio, VNORTH2, Gary E. Andrews, Perry Neal Crawford, couchgrouch, Sunset Poet, Guy E. Trepanier, bennash, Bill Draper, David Gill), 4,088 guests, and 270 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
ShoutChat
Comment Guidelines: Do post respectful and insightful comments. Don't flame, hate, spam.
What's Going On
Does Billy Joel belong in top 10?
by Fdemetrio - 03/28/24 11:10 PM
It Is Done
by Sunset Poet - 03/28/24 07:44 PM
Music Industry Summit, Athens Ohio
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/28/24 06:14 PM
Can you save me from me
by VNORTH2 - 03/28/24 03:11 PM
As human as yo
by ckiphen - 03/28/24 09:55 AM
Fox News Reports Stunning Archeological Discovery.
by couchgrouch - 03/27/24 08:02 PM
Wasting My Time
by David Gill - 03/27/24 07:42 AM
Song available
by JAPOV - 03/26/24 03:38 PM
YELLIN AT CLOUDS
by David Gill - 03/26/24 03:20 PM
"Reliving" the great Lou Rawls!
by Brian Austin Whitney - 03/26/24 01:49 PM
::: The Best In My Life :::
by Bill Draper - 03/26/24 01:32 PM
The show must go on
by ckiphen - 03/26/24 09:06 AM
NYC Motel 1972
by rpirone - 03/26/24 12:43 AM
usic Industry Summitt
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/25/24 11:32 PM
The Rant Arena
by JAPOV - 03/25/24 07:39 PM
Song available
by Raymond Byabazaire - 03/25/24 11:55 AM
Song available
by Raymond Byabazaire - 03/25/24 11:55 AM
Lancaster Festival, Lancaster, Ohio
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/25/24 10:51 AM
Wasting my time
by Rob B. - 03/25/24 03:45 AM
Tom Waits.. What's he building
by Fdemetrio - 03/25/24 12:09 AM
Rick Beato, bad lyrics
by Fdemetrio - 03/24/24 11:23 PM
Inspirational Videos Post Them Here
by Sunset Poet - 03/24/24 11:27 AM
Used to take a Genius to Mix
by Fdemetrio - 03/23/24 11:00 AM
"Broken Places"
by Gary E. Andrews - 03/22/24 07:45 PM
All You Are Is A Lie
by Sunset Poet - 03/22/24 06:55 PM
Pour Choices
by Gavin Sinclair - 03/22/24 05:29 PM
Billy's 30 year overdue song.
by Fdemetrio - 03/22/24 01:30 PM
Make my dreams come true
by ckiphen - 03/22/24 10:51 AM
Top Posters
Calvin 19,857
Travis david 12,264
Kevin Emmrich 10,941
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Two Singers 9,649
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 9,003
glynda 8,683
Mike Dunbar 8,574
Tricia Baker 8,318
couchgrouch 8,160
Colin Ward 7,911
Corey 7,357
Vicarn 6,916
Mark Kaufman 6,589
ben willis 6,114
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,725
Linda Sings 5,608
KimberlyinNC 5,210
Fdemetrio 4,990
Neil Cotton 4,909
Derek Hines 4,893
DonnaMarilyn 4,670
Blake Hill 4,528
Bob Cushing 4,389
Roy Cooper 4,271
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Tom Shea 4,195
Cindy Miller 4,178
TamsNumber4 4,171
MFB III 4,143
Sunset Poet 4,126
nightengale 4,096
E Swartz 3,985
JAPOV 3,973
beechnut79 3,878
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,845
Dan Sullivan 3,710
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
Bill Cooper 3,279
John Hoffman 3,199
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
Nigel Quin 2,891
PopTodd 2,890
Harriet Ames 2,870
MidniteBob 2,761
Nelson 2,616
Tom Tracy 2,558
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,246
Wendy D 2,235
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
maccharles 2,134
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,041
DukeWill 2,002
floyd jane 1,985
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
David Wright 1,866
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Iggy 1,652
Noel Downs 1,633
Rick Heenan 1,608
Cal 1,574
GocartMoz 1,559
Jack Swain 1,554
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
RogerS 1,481
Tom Franz 1,473
Chuck Crowe 1,441
Ralph Blight 1,440
Rick Norton 1,429
Kenneth Cade 1,429
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,409
in2piano 1,404
Stan Simons 1,402
Deej56 1,385
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,373
Charlie Wong 1,347
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Tom W. 1,313
Jan Petter 1,301
scottandrew 1,294
lane1777 1,280
Gerry 1,280
DakLander 1,265
IronKnee 1,262
PeteG 1,242
Ian Ferrin 1,235
Glen King 1,214
VNORTH2 1,212
IdeaGuy 1,209
AaronAuthier 1,177
summeoyo 1,174
Diane Ewing 1,162
ckiphen 1,120
joro 1,082
BobbyJoe 1,075
S.DEE 1,040
yann 1,037
9ne 1,035
David Gill 1,032
Tony A 1,016
argo 986
peaden 984
90 dB 964
Wolvman 960
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
Drifter 886
Petra 883
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Nadia 829
ant 798
Juan 797
TKO 784
Dayson 781
frahmes 781
bennash 763
teletwang 762
Andy K 750
Andy Kemp 749
tbryson 737
Jackie444 731
Irwin 720
3daveyO3 704
Dixie 701
Joy Boy 695
Pat Hardy 692
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
Moosesong 668
Katziis 652
R.T.MOORE 638
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
R&M 614
Mel 614
NaomiSue 601
Shandy 590
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
qbaum 570
nitepiano 566
pRISCILLA 556
Tink2 553
musica 539
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
BonzaiWag 523
Roderic 522
BB Wilbur 513
goodfolks 499
Zeek 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
fanito 448
trush48 448
dmk 442
Rob L 439
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
VNORTH 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 399
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Alek 386
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
Ann_F 379
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
java 374
ddreuter 371
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Rob B. 364
Jim Ryan 360
papaG 353
Z - man 350
JamesDF5 348
John K 348
Jaden 344
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
ONOFFON 312
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 294
markus-ky 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
Char 286
ktunes 285
Top Likes Received
JAPOV 86
VNORTH2 45
bennash 38
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Hello everyone,

I need recommendations for country music publishers. Who do you suggest? I have a demo I would like to send.

Thanks,
Jackie


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,412
R
Top 30 Poster
Offline
Top 30 Poster
R
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,412
You can research some at http://www.songwritersource.com/


Ray E. Strode
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4,195
Likes: 1
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 4,195
Likes: 1
Jsckie, before you send a demo you might want to check out some of the prior threads here regarding sending demos to publishers. The bottom line is:

Unless they have invited you to send them a demo it is likely that the demo will simply wind up in the trash.

Watch out for the scam publishers. It they want you to pay them money for anything, they are scammers.

Tom


Thomas Shea

Thomas Shea - Songwriting
http://www.soundclick.com/thomasshea

Justice - Songs
http://www.soundclick.com/justice-nebraska

Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,670
Likes: 2
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,670
Likes: 2
Jackie, you'd also be well advised to post the demo here first in the MP3 forum for feedback regarding the lyrics and the music & production. Folks on the forum are pretty knowledgable, and can give valuable feedback about the standard of the demo (text/music) and whether it's in fact ready to be submitted.

The fact is that even if a publisher gives permission to send a demo - or accepts unsolicited demos - he/she is going to be looking for something that's absolutely top-notch and not needing further work.

Donna


Honour the Earth. Without it, we'd be nowhere.

Life is too important to take seriously.

http://www.reverbnation.com/donnamarilynrichblend




Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 8,574
JPF Mentor
Offline
JPF Mentor
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 8,574
Jackie,

You're getting good advice here. Go slow. First, make sure you are writing good songs. You need honest, hardball criticism to determine that. Then once you have determined, through much outside criticism combined with education on the mechanics of songwriting, you need to determine which genre or genres of music your songwriting talents fit. This requires a real, in depth understanding of the genres.

All of this, in my opinion, is best achieved by developing a team of people to act as advisers. One of this teams tasks is to protect your career from predatory individuals or businesses. I recommend reading this:

http://www.mikedunbarmusic.com/sharkproof-yourself.html

Also, as I said, you need to educate yourself in songwriting. You need to learn the techniques, the business, the various methodologies of the business. The best single source, if you haven't read it already, is this:

http://www.amazon.com/Craft-Business-Songwriting-3rd-Edition/dp/1582974667

I can not recommend more strongly that you take some of these steps before seeking to enter the world of professional songwriting. It is a world that is fraught with con artists and deceptive services that have easily stung folks who were very savvy in other businesses. It is also a business in which first impressions can imprint a songwriter. Once a songwriter blankets the industry with songs that may be "good" songs but are not up to the quality level of known writers (not the quality level of the "hits" but of the known writers...different thing...long story) or once they blanket the industry with songs that do not fit the target genres or artists, said writers can quickly develop a reputation of being "clueless" and unprofessional and soon find it difficult to be heard by the movers and shakers.

I hope you take or have taken these important first steps before jumping into the biz.



You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash

It's only music.
-niteshift

Mike Dunbar Music

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
S
Serious Contributor
Offline
Serious Contributor
S
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
Originally Posted by Jackie444


Who do you suggest?


Any that will listen

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,579
Likes: 13
Top 10 Poster
Offline
Top 10 Poster
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,579
Likes: 13
Stevens119,

There's plenty of scam artists happy to "listen" to anything you send them. And they'll do all sorts of things... for a price.

Be very careful, as I don't know any active producers who want (or more importantly have any use for) unsolicited demos from people they don't personally know and/or who are not referred to them by someone they trust.

Brian


Brian Austin Whitney
Founder
Just Plain Folks
jpfolkspro@gmail.com
Skype: Brian Austin Whitney
Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks

"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney

"It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..." -Brian Austin Whitney

"Sometimes all you have to do to inspire humans to greatness is to give them a reason and opportunity to do something great." -Brian Austin Whitney
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Hi Everyone,

I have read those posts. I sent a copy of Big Dreams and Cold Beer to Mercury Records Nashville A&R. I called and asked how to get an invite and the person that I spoke to just said to send it to the address attention UMG A&R. I am not sure if it will be looked at or not. I was hoping that someone could give me a recommendation to someone more specific. I feel like picking someone is like a needle in a haystack.

And I always get a lot of good information on sources on JPF. So I am hopeful.

Thanks,
~Jackie


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
: )


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Right now this list includes my Grandma..LOL


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 10,190
Likes: 30
Top 20 Poster
Offline
Top 20 Poster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 10,190
Likes: 30
Originally Posted by Jackie444
Hi Everyone,

I have read those posts. I sent a copy of Big Dreams and Cold Beer to Mercury Records Nashville A&R. I called and asked how to get an invite and the person that I spoke to just said to send it to the address attention UMG A&R. I am not sure if it will be looked at or not. I was hoping that someone could give me a recommendation to someone more specific. I feel like picking someone is like a needle in a haystack.

And I always get a lot of good information on sources on JPF. So I am hopeful.

Thanks,
~Jackie


Always a good idea to call first Jackie. Most publishers of Mercury Record's stature (if it’s “the” Mercury Records) won’t accept submissions from unknowns. But then occasionally one can get lucky with a phone call.

I once tried to get a song to a Streisand publisher (in which there are many). I made 20 phone calls till I found one that gave me permission to submit. Never heard back from them though.

Followed up with a phone call, only to be told they don’t accept unsolicited material, unless through a lawyer that they’re familiar with. They didn't remember me getting permission to submit.

Good luck Jackie!

Best, John 

Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,579
Likes: 13
Top 10 Poster
Offline
Top 10 Poster
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,579
Likes: 13
Those all go right into the circular file. They can't take chances you wrote something that has a line later that by coincidence their writers also write and you sue them. They deal with known entities that aren't likely to sue or be a hassle. I doubt anyone will ever hear your music Jackie.

Brian


Brian Austin Whitney
Founder
Just Plain Folks
jpfolkspro@gmail.com
Skype: Brian Austin Whitney
Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks

"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney

"It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..." -Brian Austin Whitney

"Sometimes all you have to do to inspire humans to greatness is to give them a reason and opportunity to do something great." -Brian Austin Whitney
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Hi Mike,

I don't know if they will ever give Big Dreams and Cold Beer a listen. But I am hopeful.
It makes sense about the lawyer thing. And I don't know anyone personally working for them. But I can say when I called to follow up if they received the demo the girl I spoke with did say that they listen to everything and if they are interested they will contact me.

So I don't know,

~Jackie


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,827
Top 50 Poster
Offline
Top 50 Poster
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5,827
Hey Jackie,

Cold calling publishers is a pretty tough ask. Real publishers really don't exist anymore ( like they did in the old days ) , they're more of an "after the fact" kind of thing to sow up the leagalities, after you've already made a tentative arangement with placement.

A good example is music libraries, whom foward your music to a prospective client, and then if the deal works out, take the role of publisher to sign off on it. ( along with 50% of the take )

A better option would be to work out who the up and coming artists are in your area or beyond, and get to know them as they grow. There are great artisits out there who are starting out, and who are not great songwriters.

Form your relationships early, and that will then grow to where others will introduce you, and you can take it from there.

As Mike D says, "It's not who you know, it's who knows YOU".

Good luck.

cheers, niteshift


Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,712
Top 30 Poster
Offline
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 7,712
The only way to get in with country music publishers is to come to Nashville and hang out at venues such as the Bluebird Cafe. Writer/publisher relationships take time to develop. Sending songs through the mail is a waste of time and money.

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,845
K
Top 100 Poster
Offline
Top 100 Poster
K
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,845
The basic rule is that the publishers that will take unsolicited material are a waste of time.

Those publishers you can't get to, are the good ones.

Sending material to a publisher by mail is a 100% waste of time.

Like with any regular job, you need a resumé with credentials and a network of people who knows you, to have your music seriously considered.

Assuming you don't hang around musicians, artists and people in the music industry, you can build credentials and start to network with a handful of professional demos, writing songs every day, collaborating your way up the songwriter "ladder", collecting reviews of your music, showing up at network events.. ect.

It can be a long process, for some, easily 10 years of dedicated work. Faster if you are really talented, not only in songwriting, but also in the networking and marketing department.

There really are no shortcuts to building a good reputation and building a great network of likeminded people.

You can get around this to some extent, if you own all the rights to your music (both the composition, AND the performances/recording of it - which you usually do, IF it's self-written/composed/performed or done in collaboration, with no professional studio involved).

In that case you can pitch your music to tv/film publishers/libraries, and build credentials faster, IF your music is competitive with whats out there now.

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,831
Top 30 Poster
Offline
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,831
Jackie:

Brian and Magne have told you the way it really is. Unfortunate but true. In this business, it's who you know and who knows you... and if you have the talent and "product" they seek.

It hasn't always been that way... and there are lots of stories about those who found a way to "unlock the gates of Nashville" but they are the exceptions and probably represent less than 1% of the writers and artists who struggle to climb the music pyramid.

Don't be discouraged. Tenacity is your friend. Continue to sharpen your musical talons. Make some real contacts... people who may be able to give you a boost up that constantly moving ladder. Credentials must be earned and it begins with talent but ends with earned credibility. My very best to you for success and musical happiness.

Dave

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
S
Serious Contributor
Offline
Serious Contributor
S
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 382
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Stevens119,

There's plenty of scam artists happy to "listen" to anything you send them. And they'll do all sorts of things... for a price.

Be very careful, as I don't know any active producers who want (or more importantly have any use for) unsolicited demos from people they don't personally know and/or who are not referred to them by someone they trust.

Brian



Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
I doubt anyone will ever hear your music Jackie.





Yeah...but you can't scare people that are just staring out into being afraid to play songs for people. They should play them for anybody that will listen. If you run into a scammer, just tell them no.

You certainly can't have a demo, and be afraid to play it...that's a pretty bad foot to start off on.

Being a person who has never been scammed...I have to wonder, where are people finding these scammers at? They must be hiding... or maybe they just don't do business with the legitimate...

I completely understand that you intent was to be honest and realistic. It just seemed like quite a jaded reaction. You gotta let people dream, and figure things out for themselves. Most likely, nobody will hear that demo where it's been sent...lesson learned. Try something else. It's certainly not gonna hurt to send demos to the circular file...it could get misplaced!

I totally agree that sending uninvited demos to the unexpecting is useless. But I know of a few cases where that exact thing has started long careers for people I know.


Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,916
Likes: 9
Top 40 Poster
Offline
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 6,916
Likes: 9
Well said, Stevens119.
Accentuate the positive and be damned.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,412
R
Top 30 Poster
Offline
Top 30 Poster
R
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 7,412
Actually I have been poking around the Net and am sending a submission to a couple of Publishers tomorrow. Actually I have known about them for some time but haven't sent any material to them. They do accept material according to their Web Sites. One has been in business a long time and it is a long shot but I have some good songs to send.

I took some of my older songs and transfered them to CD and put the lyrics in an updated file so I can print them when I pitch.

You have to keep pluging.


Ray E. Strode
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Thanks so much, Dave.


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Thanks Songcabinet,

I hope one day to get to that point. I am just making the best of what resources that are available to me write now.

Thank you for your reply,

~Jackie


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
: )


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Hi Jim,


I tell my husband to pitch my songs when he goes to Nashville for work. He just winks and says, okay. I hope one day to make it out there.

Also one day I would love to do a collaboration with you. I really like the song that up did recently Up and Running....really good!

~Jackie


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Hi Niteshift,

I thought about your reply a lot and the only local country artist year in the Ocala area that I know of is Easton Corbin. But I know you have to get in touch other ways than just giving your cd to an artist. If only he would take it to Nashville : )...lol

So I contacted my local country radio station DJ and he was so nice to reply and has shed his light on the subject.

I am going to explore all avenues that I have and hopefully I will find my way
~Jackie


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731
Top 500 Poster
OP Offline
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 731


Jacqueline Richter
Mommy, wife, and songwriter

Link Copied to Clipboard
Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.


Newest Members
chriscastle, yasir252, cathennashira, Samwise, HappySousa
21,470 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums117
Topics125,717
Posts1,160,950
Members21,470
Most Online37,523
Jan 25th, 2020
Just Plain Quotes
"If one man can do it, any man can do it. It is true. But the real question is, if one man did it, are you willing to do what it takes to do it as well?" –Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
warriorgirl (2024)
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5