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Having a tough time with this one. Can't seem to find an arrangement of instruments that I really like. Any thoughts on that, or any other aspect, are appreciated.

Been a few songs posted lately that have other people singing as a theme. Here's mine. smile

Your Voice Singing is here:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=377550&songID=8211995

Lyric is below. Thanks!

Scott



Your Voice Singing
(c) 2009 by S.W. Campbell

When there’s no breeze to stir the heather
And you can hear the falling of a feather
When you can hear a lone grasshopper springing
I hear the sound of your voice singing

When hurricanes send waves a’bashing
And lightening skies send thunder crashing
Though sirens wail and bells be ringing
I hear the sound of your voice singing

Through all the miles I’ve put behind me
Your song has never failed to find me
And when I to my last breath be clinging
I’ll hear the sound of your voice singing

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Hi Scott. I am not a musician so I cant really help in your quest but I would like to say that I think this song is amazing and the singers voice for me is the best you could have ever used. Just right for the song.

anyway thats my bit. good luck Roy


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Scott,

I like this one a lot, and I think you are close. The basic lyric, melody and chords are working.

I wanted to hear a tremolo mandolin or one doing some single note runs from verse one. I think you used it as an additional chord instrument from verse two? I think that worked to raise the intensity, but can't stand alone IMO

Due to the lyric, I can see why you chose to work with a building harmony vocal arrangement, but somehow that didn't work for me here.

I wanted more of the feeling you provided in verse one. I pictured an epic rural scenario from the wild west. So I would take off the harmonies (there are noone else in the scenario the lyric portrays, right?). Instead I would take in a mando, fiddling around a bit, perhaps some strings (yes, to underscore the epic scenario - the 'singing' couldbe in the strings), and perhaps a hand drum in the end to build it.

That way you build the arrangement almost like a film track. I think that'll be the way to go with this. Doubling some fiddles could work in stead of strings, if you want to keep the natural instumentation.

Well, just throwing some ideas off the cuff, hoping to trigger some of your own KOS

Bottom line - it's a beautiful song that deserves the best IMO

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the instruments you used seemed fine to me.. It's kindof short, but very very good. Great idea. what's a "heather" ?


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I really enjoyed that one. I was thinking a fiddle or mandolin would be a good addition. I like the contrast in imagery between verse 1 and verse 2 (but you can still hear her singing).

Another excellent tune!

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Gosh Scott

When i hear your voice singing this - it sends an emotional warmth to my heart.... I don't think that you need to add much. ; ) jm


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Hi Scott,

This is just so heartfelt and beautiful, I don't have words!

I think your arrangement is nice. I think you've got the right idea. Think of Mike Scott's simple arrangements as the leader of the "Waterboys" his songs were all about the spirit in his voice and the magic of his words...and an occasional great fiddle solo, like on "Fisherman's Blues."

You could go big on the last chorus, with reverb and a deep Irish drum...a boudran, perhaps, and a fiddle?

I wouldn't do too much, as you might lose the intimacy that you gain from your simple arrangement. As "nice" as those Enya records sound, they're rather impersonal, you know? Yes...late Waterboys make a nice template for what you have going on here. I think you need very little else going on to make it perfect.

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Scott....I like this one....I love the approach here....to me you just keep getting better and better....I love the harp....I think you should stick to verse one....just you singing with out the background vocal....it sounds good....but I like you single better....hey...good work my friend....Bob

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Such a warm, good feeling tune Scott. I think your instrumentation works very well. In fact, now I can't imagine it done any better way to capture the warmth.

Best, John smile

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It needs bagpipes.......Seriously now it is a great piece and terrific arrangement as is. My only nit.... it is too short at 2.18. perhaps add a chorus or another verse?
When I read the lyrics I immediately thought.. OH OH!... Scott is mentioning heather.... Heather!....Oh no....not another Grannies Highland home song. But with a name like Scott Campbell what do you expect.....LOL
Well Scott wrote a song any Scotsman would be proud to sing and he's not even Scottish.
Great job Scott your versatility and skills amaze me.
I cannot fault anything except in this case more is more.

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Hi Scott,

This is lovely. Beautiful lyric….so visual and moving.

I like the music and your singing as is….but if you decide to try some of these suggestions, maybe you could post another version and let us compare?!

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Originally Posted by OskaSeason
Hi Scott. I am not a musician so I cant really help in your quest but I would like to say that I think this song is amazing and the singers voice for me is the best you could have ever used. Just right for the song.

anyway thats my bit. good luck Roy


Thank-you very much, Roy. One frustrating thing for me is to write a song that my voice isn't right for. I mean singing it is half of the fun for me. smile

So I've been trying to write songs that my voice has a decent chance of sounding appropriate on. Glad it seems to have worked here. smile

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Originally Posted by the songcabinet

I wanted to hear a tremolo mandolin or one doing some single note runs from verse one. I think you used it as an additional chord instrument from verse two? I think that worked to raise the intensity, but can't stand alone IMO

Due to the lyric, I can see why you chose to work with a building harmony vocal arrangement, but somehow that didn't work for me here.

I wanted more of the feeling you provided in verse one. I pictured an epic rural scenario from the wild west. So I would take off the harmonies (there are noone else in the scenario the lyric portrays, right?). Instead I would take in a mando, fiddling around a bit, perhaps some strings (yes, to underscore the epic scenario - the 'singing' couldbe in the strings), and perhaps a hand drum in the end to build it.


Thanks for the detailed review and suggestions, Magne!

What bothered me most about it was that I thought the change in the music going from V1 to V2 was a bit jarring. I wanted to beef up the single picked guitar in V1 with a strum but couldn't find one that sounded right. The song is in waltz time so that might be why. Everything I tried seemed either too plodding or too intense.

But one way to soften the transition a little would be to drop the harmony in V2. I might do that since Bob suggested it too. Can also try to bring the rhythm guitar in a little slower.

I used my "poor man's mando" on this - a guitar capoed up high. grin

You're right - I did that soley to bring up the intensity. Just realized from your post though that, with the exception of the harmonica, I don't have a single lead instrument in this. No wonder I was able to record it quickly. grin

So I'll play with dropping the harmony in V2. Can think about adding strings too - though I'd want to keep them pretty subtle. Might play around with some fills in V1 too, though I'm not confident about that. But hey, if I don't like it, I don't have to use it. smile

Thanks again for the ideas, Magne.

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Originally Posted by Louis
Great idea. what's a "heather" ?


She was a really hot girl that sat behind me in 8th grade.

Oh, you mean in the song. smile

Big Jim can probably give a better description. It's a shrub that grows wild in Europe and the UK. I believe heather is to the UK as sage brush is to our southwest.

Thought about adding a bridge to it - to pin it down a little better. Decided I like it better without.

Thanks Louis!

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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
I really enjoyed that one. I was thinking a fiddle or mandolin would be a good addition. I like the contrast in imagery between verse 1 and verse 2 (but you can still hear her singing).

Another excellent tune!

Kevin



Thanks Kevin - glad that contrast came through. Was a major intent of mine.

Man, I wish I could play a fiddle. Maybe my mother in law would take a crack at it. smile

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Originally Posted by Joice Marie
Gosh Scott

When i hear your voice singing this - it sends an emotional warmth to my heart.... I don't think that you need to add much. ; ) jm


Hi Joice:

Cool - glad it warmed your heart. smile

I don't think I'll add to much - if I add something, I'll probably take something away to keep it simple. Maybe with the exception of V1, which I still think might need something.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
Hi Scott,

This is just so heartfelt and beautiful, I don't have words!

I think your arrangement is nice. I think you've got the right idea. Think of Mike Scott's simple arrangements as the leader of the "Waterboys" his songs were all about the spirit in his voice and the magic of his words...and an occasional great fiddle solo, like on "Fisherman's Blues."

You could go big on the last chorus, with reverb and a deep Irish drum...a boudran, perhaps, and a fiddle?

I wouldn't do too much, as you might lose the intimacy that you gain from your simple arrangement. As "nice" as those Enya records sound, they're rather impersonal, you know? Yes...late Waterboys make a nice template for what you have going on here. I think you need very little else going on to make it perfect.

Mike


Thanks, Mike!

Yeah, I don't want it to get out of hand. I did try some percussion during the instrumental break and it didn't add anything to it for me so I dropped it. Didn't think about V3 though - might be worth a shot.

I saw your message earlier today and was anxious to check out the Waterboys - but I don't have i-tunes at work. Probably a good thing smile

Something fun to do before hitting the sack tonight though.

Appreciate the comments and suggestions, Mike!

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Originally Posted by Robert Pickens
Scott....I like this one....I love the approach here....to me you just keep getting better and better....I love the harp....I think you should stick to verse one....just you singing with out the background vocal....it sounds good....but I like you single better....hey...good work my friend....Bob


Thanks Bob!

Cool to think I might be improving!

I'm going to try removing the harmony from V2 and see how that sounds. Thanks for the suggestion.

Harp was fun - I probably overdue the bending but I just can't help myself grin

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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
Such a warm, good feeling tune Scott. I think your instrumentation works very well. In fact, now I can't imagine it done any better way to capture the warmth.


Thanks John. Much appreciated smile

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Originally Posted by BIG JIM MERRILEES
It needs bagpipes.......Seriously now it is a great piece and terrific arrangement as is. My only nit.... it is too short at 2.18. perhaps add a chorus or another verse?
When I read the lyrics I immediately thought.. OH OH!... Scott is mentioning heather.... Heather!....Oh no....not another Grannies Highland home song. But with a name like Scott Campbell what do you expect.....LOL
Well Scott wrote a song any Scotsman would be proud to sing and he's not even Scottish.
Great job Scott your versatility and skills amaze me.
I cannot fault anything except in this case more is more.


Bagpipes would be cool! I had a student that played the pipes but he's gone. Probably a good thing for him. grin

Yeah, I'm three generations removed from being a Scotsman. I can still remember my grandmother speaking in a thick brogue though. Glad that the song didn't sound fake to a true Scotman.

I imagine a name like Scott Campbell must be a little peculiar to you. Would be like a guy here named USA Jones. Hey, that has a ring to it! grin

I could lengthen the song - probably by adding a bridge. I was thinking along those lines at one point but decided that if I wrote more it would probably steer the song more than I wanted to. What I've been thinking of is having it as the last track on a CD - it's nice to end with something short and uplifting.

Thanks for the very nice words, Big Jim!

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Originally Posted by Kristi McKeever
Hi Scott,

This is lovely. Beautiful lyric….so visual and moving.

I like the music and your singing as is….but if you decide to try some of these suggestions, maybe you could post another version and let us compare?!

Kristi


Thanks you, Kristi. Yes, I'd be happy to!

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Scott;

I think this is perfect the way it is. Your voice and the instruments are just right IMO. A well played pennywhistle might be nice but not neccessary.

Real nice job
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Hi Scott....Very Very Nice!!...This wouldn't be out of place on "Scottish Folk Album"...Big Jim suggested the pipes.....well that is definately one option,bit it would really need to be in Bb..or Eb to suit the pipes(preferrably Bb)..personally i don't think it needs any additional instruments,,,what i would suggest is ,taking it up a semi-tone on the last verse,and doing a repeat,and bringing in a choir,and really add dynamics to it.
ireally think you should persevere with this song,and get it out there,there is definatly a market for it..All The Best...Terry..

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Howdy Gus here. Had to spin it several times to get my fill,
the 1st time thru. Now I'm back again. Cool arrangement,& lyrics.

I know they are nothing alike, but this music affects me,
much like bluegrass does. Sweet......Gus


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Originally Posted by Uncle Steve
Scott;

I think this is perfect the way it is. Your voice and the instruments are just right IMO. A well played pennywhistle might be nice but not neccessary.

Real nice job
Steve


Thanks Unc - much appreciated smile

A pennywhistle? Might be cool!

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Originally Posted by Terry Moore
Hi Scott....Very Very Nice!!...This wouldn't be out of place on "Scottish Folk Album"...Big Jim suggested the pipes.....well that is definately one option,bit it would really need to be in Bb..or Eb to suit the pipes(preferrably Bb)..personally i don't think it needs any additional instruments,,,what i would suggest is ,taking it up a semi-tone on the last verse,and doing a repeat,and bringing in a choir,and really add dynamics to it.
ireally think you should persevere with this song,and get it out there,there is definatly a market for it..All The Best...Terry..


Hi Terry:

Nice to hear from you. Glad to have another confirmation that I don't sound totally like an imposter smile

You know, that idea of going up a semitone is something I always tell myself to try (when I hear it in a song) but then always forget to do. Is a cool idea - worth exploring.

The repeat too - I really should have done that in the first place. Guess I was to anxious to get to the choir part.

Thanks for the support and suggestions - I will keep working it, alright.

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Originally Posted by Steven August Rieck
Howdy Gus here. Had to spin it several times to get my fill,
the 1st time thru. Now I'm back again. Cool arrangement,& lyrics.

I know they are nothing alike, but this music affects me,
much like bluegrass does. Sweet......Gus


Hi Gus:

Thanks!

Yeah, it's a little short. But in the immortal words of Mr. Robert Pickens, if it's too short, you can play it again. smile

Glad you liked it. I like bluegrass too.....

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Hi Scott,

This is really great. I think your choice of instruments is just fine and your voice in top form. It sounds like a PD song. Your thought of a final cut on a CD would be perfect. Long or short, when you've said all you want to say, the song is done! Thanks for sharing all your wonderful talents.

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You know Scott it is always a pleasure to listen to your songs
always a joy and this is no different


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Originally Posted by Ricki E. Bellos
Hi Scott,

This is really great. I think your choice of instruments is just fine and your voice in top form. It sounds like a PD song. Your thought of a final cut on a CD would be perfect. Long or short, when you've said all you want to say, the song is done! Thanks for sharing all your wonderful talents.


Hi Ricki:

Thanks so much. My newest project is to write enough songs for a CD that sounds like PD - but isn't. So I think this one will fit.

I really got the bug when recording all those public domain songs, I guess smile

Really appreciate the support, Ricki. Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by Dan O'Connell
You know Scott it is always a pleasure to listen to your songs
always a joy and this is no different


Thanks Dan - glad you liked it!

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Scott,
Lovely song my friend,,, Top shelf!!! By far your best of best ever..The lyrics are fantastic and the melody awesome. This blew me away from the start to the end..
Great Song my friend...I loved it!!!!
BOB


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Oh, this is heartbreakingly lovely. smile

It reminded me as well of the lovely Irish folk song "Go Lassie, Go" (I think it's sometimes also called "Wild Bloomin' Heather".)

Your voice here has the perfect poignant edge, and the instruments are lovely. Like some of the others here, I could envisage one or two additions, but even as it is, ithe song's a gem.

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Hey Scooter,

Lovin' the feel of this one. The lyrics are so pretty and yet your great gravelly voice gives them a "manly edge", if you will.

Musically, your choices work fine for me....although I would not be averse to the addition of a fiddle (one of my fave instruments!)....

At any rate, you have a lot of fun suggs to think about. I'll be keeping my eyes and ears open for any updates.

In the meantime, thanks for sharing!

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Scott,

This really is a great song! I would change very little, if anything. Perhaps a fiddle or a mandolin, but any more might be too much. Oh, by the way, did I tell you this is a great song!?

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Originally Posted by Muskie
Scott,
Lovely song my friend,,, Top shelf!!! By far your best of best ever..The lyrics are fantastic and the melody awesome. This blew me away from the start to the end..
Great Song my friend...I loved it!!!!
BOB


Thanks Bob! I'll try not to let that go to my head. smile

Really appreciate that!

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Originally Posted by DonnaMarilyn
Oh, this is heartbreakingly lovely. smile

It reminded me as well of the lovely Irish folk song "Go Lassie, Go" (I think it's sometimes also called "Wild Bloomin' Heather".)

Your voice here has the perfect poignant edge, and the instruments are lovely. Like some of the others here, I could envisage one or two additions, but even as it is, ithe song's a gem.

Donna


Thanks Donna - I'll go check that song out. I'm sure this melody or something close to it has been used a lot - it's too traditional sounding to be completely original.

Glad it worked for you. smile

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Originally Posted by Beth G. Williams
Hey Scooter,

Lovin' the feel of this one. The lyrics are so pretty and yet your great gravelly voice gives them a "manly edge", if you will.

Beth


Now my chest is all puffed out, Beth grin

Seriously, thanks. Yes - getting some nice suggestions. Can't do 'em all though so I have some sorting out to do.

I'll send it to my mother-in-law, the fiddler/violinist and see if she takes the bait smile

Thanks Beth!

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Originally Posted by Al David
Scott,

This really is a great song! I would change very little, if anything. Perhaps a fiddle or a mandolin, but any more might be too much. Oh, by the way, did I tell you this is a great song!?

Alan


Hey Alan:

Those seem to be the popular choices. With me too, though I don't have either one. That's a problem that can be solved though... smile

Thanks Alan - appreciate it!

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This is so beautiful, Scott! I'm going to e-mail it to Andy (Glasgow, Scotland). I know he'd LOVE IT! I loved the rythm, the melody the imagery, the instrumentation, and YOUR VOICE! Yes, it was perfect for it! I'm going for another listen! smile


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Had to come back and post again. boy I love this song Scott
you are a master for sure.

more please!

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Originally Posted by Polly Hager
This is so beautiful, Scott! I'm going to e-mail it to Andy (Glasgow, Scotland). I know he'd LOVE IT! I loved the rythm, the melody the imagery, the instrumentation, and YOUR VOICE! Yes, it was perfect for it! I'm going for another listen! smile


Thanks Polly! Tell Andy I said "hi".

Love your new avatar!

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Originally Posted by Dan O'Connell
Had to come back and post again. boy I love this song Scott
you are a master for sure.

more please!

Dan


Cool to get a repeat listen. Thanks Dan!

I think of myself as a jack of all trades and a master of none. grin

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Scott...

How about "jack of many trades and master of several"? That's believable for me.

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Scott;

I've been listening to this song for a couple of days now and it just gets better with repetition. Very uplifting, great job.

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Originally Posted by Al David
Scott...

How about "jack of many trades and master of several"? That's believable for me.

Alan


I dunno, Alan - once I know what I'm doing with something, I tend to lose interest in it grin

Makes it hard to master anything but it's fun anyway smile

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Originally Posted by Uncle Steve
Scott;

I've been listening to this song for a couple of days now and it just gets better with repetition. Very uplifting, great job.

Steve


Hey Steve (Unc):

Cool - glad it doesn't get old after the first spin!

Appreciate the kind words smile

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Scott:

I liked it a lot. In skimming the responses I noticed there were some suggestions of how to lengthen the song. I like the format just fine (although I would have probably tried a bridge like you did) but have you thought about repeating the first verse at the end, going right back to the single guitar accompaniment? Maybe you could change the repeated verse to something like:

Now there’s no breeze to stir the heather
And you can hear the falling of a feather
There's no clouds in the sky and no birds winging
There's just the sound of your voice singing

...or maybe you can just leave it like it is. It works. (Sorry, I haven't been writing too many songs lately and I got a little carried away there...)

Well crafted and recorded (as expected!)

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This is a good one, Scott. I think it gets off to a slow start though - just need a few small fills between the vocals in and after verse one. Harmonica, mandolin or acoustic guitar would work (no not all of them).

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It don't old my friend, I am still listening ... When is the CD coming and add me to the list to buy it

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