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#754046 - 09/22/09 01:16 PM
Once upon a time waitress
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Note: I have been rewriting the lyric after recordingJPF'ers,This is from today. Not sure about anything.. I actually wanted to write something completely different, but this is what the muse said! I'd appeciate any comment or input you may think of.. http://soundclick.com/share?songid=8128171© 2009 Magne Kolstad ONCE UPON A TIME WAITRESSShe's a butterfly girl In a rainbow dress Serves each table With her hair in a mess But she makes sure everyone will feel at home She makes coffee and eggs For the early birds Dreaming one day She can show the world The beauty of her wings and that she can really make it She's that ONCE UPON A TIME WAITRESS Everyday is like a story of new faces She'll color your day with her wings of grace Tells you a joke and puts a smile on your face That's the reason why she's hangin' round these places She's that ONCE UPON A TIME WAITRESS She dreams of being free And to see the world Find true love And be a happy girl Doesn't care how he looks as long as she doesn't break him She's that ONCE UPON A TIME WAITRESS Everyday is like a story of new faces She'll color your day with her wings of grace Tells you a joke and puts a smile on your face That's the reason why she's hangin' round these places She's that ONCE UPON A TIME WAITRESS She's lookin' each day for that special guy Wishing black coffee could show her how But she doesn't have time to try Still she's hoping one day, someone will say You're my ONCE UPON A TIME WAITRESS Everyday's been a story of new faces But you color my day with your wings of grace Tell me a joke and put a smile on my face You're the reason why I hang around these places You're my ONCE UPON A TIME WAITRESS
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#754069 - 09/22/09 03:48 PM
Re: Once in a lifetime waitress
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There's lots of really nice stuff happening in the lyrics. My biggest problem with it was the chorus. I'm not sure what you mean by a "once in a lifetime waitress" - I can guess but there's not a lot of info to go on. You've got a really nice voice. It's sincere in it's delivery. I'd love to hear you singing something like "Daisy A Day" by Judd Strunk. I also think the bridge in the song that starts with "She's waiting each day for that special guy" should be introduced earlier. It's like we found out what she was doing ("waiting for that special guy") at the end of the song. For me, I would have prefered to know at the end of the song that something more important or dramatic was happening that she, perhaps, will be waiting for the rest of her life for that "special guy" to come along. It would make a better connect to the chorus' "lifetime". All in all, I enjoyed it as a "package". Lines like, "She makes coffee and eggs For the early birds", are perfect because "early bird breakfasts" connect with a lot of people. It's familiar. A few more references like that would help the song. Things like the menu on the table or the napkins being folded, spoons being cleaned, the tables being set, a dollar in change left behind on the counter or watching the clock on the wall can help keep the listener within the confines of the restaurant or diner where she works and where she wishes to escape from. Right now, the song deals mostly with whimsical visions of her being a butterfly in a rainbow dress, dreaming of being free and the beauty of her wings. It's just that your description of her is either a bit over-stated or is spread too far throughout the song. The fragility of her life could probably be summed up in the opening verse or maybe even the opening two lines. Anyway, everything is meant in a constructive way. I still really enjoyed the song. I listened to it three times.
Good luck with it!
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#754225 - 09/23/09 06:48 AM
Re: Once in a lifetime waitress
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Hi Ellen, Thanks for taking time to all listen, comment and suggest! I just played your idea, and it sounds really good too. Will definately consider those changes if I decide to work more on this, Ellen. After all, this is for you and all the time you've worked.. I just love cafés and diners and 'low' places, like that (that line might have to go) Thanks a bunch!
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#754227 - 09/23/09 06:57 AM
Re: Once in a lifetime waitress
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Hi Duncan, Thanks for all the effort you put into listening, commenting and suggesting. I appreciate it a lot! Im with you on moving the storyline to start from where she's looking for that special guy. That would leave room for a development of some kind, and not just the changing chorus I got now. Great ideas, Duncan - I'll take'em to heart! I enjoy your own writing a lot, and where I come from, three plays of my song, makes it a HIT
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#754236 - 09/23/09 09:34 AM
Re: Once in a lifetime waitress
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Hard not to like this tune. The music is understated but great, the singing is fine and I like the lyrics a lot.
Musically, I would bump up the bottom. A bowed or plucked bass, or a cello would be nice. I'd also bring up the slide a notch.
Lyrically, it is quite good, but there a couple of things to mention. "Early Bird" to me means the older folks in Florida going to dinner at 5pm to catch the cheaper "early bird" specials (ha, ha) -- but there's no reason to change it here, it works just fine.
"as long as she doesn't hate it" -- to me this line seems too passive (even though hate is a strong word). Maybe "as long as it doesn't break her" or something like that.
"That's how she's made a lifetime in low places" I would find a whole new line for this one. You use "lifetime" and it reminds one of "Friends in Low Places". In this context it just doesn't seem to fit. Maybe "That's how she's made it to this time and place" (OK, that's pretty weak -- I'll leave it to you).
Pretty good tune you got going on here.
Kevin
Last edited by Kevin Emmrich; 09/23/09 09:38 AM.
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#754414 - 09/23/09 11:12 PM
Re: Once in a lifetime waitress
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HI Magne: This is coming along, I think. Every line that was sung different from the posted lyric I thought was an improvement. And it's got a nice tune to it. Right now, I think you have to decide what story you want to tell. Early on, it seems like she wants to prove she can make it on her own. Then later, she hopes to find true love. I don't doubt that a person can feel both of these but I think this is a case where the song has to be simpler than real life  Gonna be a nice one  Scott
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#754415 - 09/23/09 11:16 PM
Re: Once upon a time waitress
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Hi Magne,
This is really pretty. I like it a lot. Lyrically, I prefer the new hook, "Once upon a time waitress"....thinking it gives her a "regular girl" type of feel and this is her story, type of deal. I think the bridge could be stronger. Maybe you could incorporate the "once upon a time" factor in there...ya know...something about "happily ever after" or something that alludes to the features of a once upon a time story...just a thought.
Very nice song.
Kristi
A musician must make music, an artist must paint, a poet must write, if he is to be ultimately at peace with himself. What a man can be, he must be. -- Abraham Maslow, American Psychologist
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#754482 - 09/24/09 05:47 AM
Re: Once in a lifetime waitress
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Hi Scott, Thanks for listening! Uhm, not good.. I rewrote after recording. I see your point on double stories. Even where I wrote make it, I meant in love.. never thought there were other things of importance  , but I see how it confuses. I think, songs are always more complicated than life. Life just writes itself
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#754502 - 09/24/09 08:35 AM
Re: Once upon a time waitress
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Hi Magna Gosh, this is beautiful,  I'm gonna have another listen later, but I better listen to some others first. You have a nice style and vocal Magna,  keep workin' it, cause this girl thinks it's fantastic. Aussie fan Michele
Last edited by Michele Bolton; 09/24/09 08:36 AM.
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#756260 - 10/01/09 06:46 AM
Re: Once upon a time waitress
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Hi Joice, Thanks a lot! I guess the title is in the rewriting bowl, then  Your idea certainly seems like an improvement.. Thanks to everyone who has taken the time to listen!
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#756308 - 10/01/09 11:24 AM
Re: Once in a lifetime waitress
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Hi Scott,
Thanks for listening!
Uhm, not good.. I rewrote after recording.
Hmmm - This bothered me some - made me wonder if I was being totally accurate. So I went back and listened more carefully. I counted 4 major changes - didn't focus on the minor ones. (1) "Every days been like a lifetime of new faces" vs "Everyday is like a story of new faces". I prefer the first. (2) "Sends you a smile and remembers your face" vs "Tells you a joke and puts a smile on your face" Again, I prefer the first. I have read that the most memorable people are those that remember US when we meet them again. This taps into that. It's easier to put a smile on someone's face than it is to greet them by name the second time you see them. That's why the first option makes her more special. (3) "That's how she made a lifetime in low places" vs "That's the reason why she's hangin' round these places". Again, I prefer the first. I think the second is good but the first is killer. I can see though how people working those places might object. (4) "She doesn't hate him" vs "she doesn't break him". I wasn't accurate on this one - I like the second one better. With the first, it sounds like she's settling for something - and that seems at odds with her (as described in the rest of the song). Anyway, just one opinion Magne (or 4, depending on how they are counted). And don't take it too seriously. Mostly, I wanted to give your lyric the respect it deserves by being more specific this time around. Scott
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#758502 - 10/09/09 11:35 AM
Re: Once upon a time waitress
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Hi Magne,
Sorry I'm late getting to this, but I like it a lot and hope you persue it further.
Does her hair have to be in a mess? I ask because food handlers have to have their hair very well kept, or they'll be getting complaints form customers. Could she wear a hair net? It seems like it would provide you with another nice near rhyme.
I like the quaint musical sound you are getting hear, it's original to my ears, I wanted your slide playing to be more self assured.
I like the changing chorus too.
You could demo this better; it does have that on the fly sound; I hope you take this one to the next level, I see this waitress, you bring her to life. Nice work!
Mike
Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 10/09/09 11:36 AM.
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