Who's Online Now
32 registered members (differenzmusic, Dave Rice, Barry David Butler, 9ne, couchgrouch, Germain Brunet, Deej56, Calvin, Fdemetrio, 5 invisible), and 231 guests, and
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Shout Box
Member Spotlight
Le Monde
Posts: 158
Joined: January 2007
Show All Member Profiles 
What's Going On
Make your mind up
by Dave Rice. 03/17/18 08:52 PM
Out of Time (southern rock)
by TC Perkins. 03/17/18 08:47 PM
Words Can Break Your Heart
by RainyDayMan. 03/17/18 08:23 PM
Would You Give Songwriting Credits To a Star
by Germain Brunet. 03/17/18 08:12 PM
Your 1st ever PRO Royalty Check Response
by Germain Brunet. 03/17/18 08:09 PM
Uncommon Grace
by Germain Brunet. 03/17/18 08:01 PM
Trail In The Rain/Country?
by Calvin. 03/17/18 07:29 PM
by John Lawrence Schick. 03/17/18 06:54 PM
Her Share of the Blame. Travis & Vic
by Travis david. 03/17/18 05:28 PM
George Washington & The Boys Are Back In Town.
by Barry David Butler. 03/17/18 01:38 PM
Is it better to.....
by Fdemetrio. 03/17/18 01:09 PM
In My Dreams
by Nelson. 03/17/18 10:46 AM
by Janice & Bud. 03/17/18 10:20 AM
Blue Bird LeBlanc/Bellos/Zanes
ki cowrite

by Ricki E. Bellos. 03/17/18 09:23 AM
Agent of the Past
by the_lyricwriter. 03/17/18 08:08 AM
The Man in the Rorschach Shirt
by Deej56. 03/17/18 12:29 AM
Another Time Another Day
by Deej56. 03/17/18 12:27 AM
Bummer Town
by Deej56. 03/17/18 12:01 AM
NRA why?
by Fdemetrio. 03/16/18 10:56 PM
Losin Our Connection Sosnowski/Miller
by RogerS. 03/16/18 08:37 PM
Got Signed Today: Cause of This song!
by John Lawrence Schick. 03/16/18 03:44 PM
Every Generation: Is this a good track 1?
by differenzmusic. 03/16/18 03:24 PM
Lady of the Books
by beechnut79. 03/16/18 12:51 PM
Challenger Deep
by Ricki E. Bellos. 03/16/18 12:30 PM
Trump economics
by Barry David Butler. 03/16/18 09:16 AM
Music Licensing Opportunity (Indie Feature Film)
by RonnieDean. 03/16/18 09:12 AM
RUNNING AWAY Mackie Humphries
by Mackie H.. 03/16/18 12:42 AM
Great Way To Understand Streaming Breakdown
by RonnieDean. 03/15/18 07:53 PM
Makes Me Glad I'm With A For Profit PRO
by RonnieDean. 03/15/18 07:52 PM
computer engineers average salary
by Barry David Butler. 03/15/18 08:55 AM
Top Posters(All Time)
Calvin 19,386
Travis david 10,644
Kevin Emmrich 10,535
Jean Bullock 10,330
Kaley Willow 10,240
Two Singers 9,571
Joice Marie 9,186
Mackie H. 8,764
Mike Dunbar 8,574
glynda 8,573
Tricia Baker 8,318
Colin Ward 7,867
Corey 7,357
couchgrouch 7,264
Wyman Lloyd 6,578
Dave Rice 6,509
Mark Kaufman 6,429
Joe Wrabek 6,400
ben willis 6,090
Lynn Orloff 5,788
Louis 5,718
Linda Sings 5,604
Vicarn 5,518
niteshift 5,358
KimberlyinNC 5,210
Derek Hines 4,893
DonnaMarilyn 4,610
Blake Hill 4,528
Bob Cushing 4,351
Neil Cotton 4,291
Bill Osofsky 4,199
Cindy Miller 4,178
Tom Shea 4,173
TamsNumber4 4,023
nightengale 3,965
Roy Cooper 3,914
Caroline 3,865
Kolstad 3,771
Dan Sullivan 3,710
MFB III 3,687
Dottie 3,427
joewatt 3,411
beechnut79 3,335
Bill Cooper 3,279
John Hoffman 3,199
E Swartz 3,049
Skip Johnson 3,027
Pam Hurley 3,007
Terry G 3,005
PopTodd 2,877
Harriet Ames 2,869
Nigel Quin 2,802
MidniteBob 2,706
Tom Tracy 2,558
Polly Hager 2,526
Jerry Jakala 2,524
Nelson 2,514
Al Alvarez 2,499
Eric Thome 2,448
Hummingbird 2,401
Stan Loh 2,263
Sam Wilson 2,241
Judy Hollier 2,232
Erica Ellis 2,202
Wendy D 2,181
TrumanCoyote 2,096
Marty Helly 2,012
DukeWill 1,984
Ray Thyer 1,929
Clint Anglin 1,904
cindyrella 1,888
David Wright 1,866
Clairejeanne 1,851
Cindy LaRosa 1,824
maccharles 1,819
floyd jane 1,790
Ronald Boyt 1,675
Noel Downs 1,620
Iggy 1,613
Cal 1,574
Rick Heenan 1,567
Jack Swain 1,554
Pete Larsen 1,537
Ann Tygart 1,529
Tom Breshers 1,487
RogerS 1,459
Tom Franz 1,452
Ralph Blight 1,440
Chuck Crowe 1,435
Kenneth Cade 1,429
Rick Norton 1,428
bholt 1,411
Letha Allen 1,406
in2piano 1,404
Stan Simons 1,402
mattbanx 1,384
Jen Shaner 1,373
Charlie Wong 1,347
KevinP 1,324
Vondelle 1,316
Janice & Bud 1,315
Tom W. 1,313
Jan Petter 1,301
scottandrew 1,292
GocartMoz 1,268
DakLander 1,265
Ian Ferrin 1,230
PeteG 1,228
Glen King 1,210
IdeaGuy 1,209
AaronAuthier 1,177
Diane Ewing 1,158
summeoyo 1,085
Gerry 1,082
BobbyJoe 1,075
joro 1,065
S.DEE 1,040
yann 1,037
Tony A 1,016
argo 986
peaden 984
lane1777 981
Wolvman 960
IronKnee 912
Jak Kelly 912
krtinberg 890
Drifter 886
Petra 883
RJC 845
Brenda152 840
Nadia 827
Juan 797
TKO 784
frahmes 781
teletwang 762
90 dB 745
tbryson 737
Andy K 734
Andy Kemp 733
ant 732
Jackie444 722
3daveyO3 704
Dayson 703
Dixie 701
Joy Boy 695
Knute 686
Lee Arten 678
9ne 678
Katziis 652
quality 637
CG King 622
douglas 621
Mel 614
NaomiSue 601
Pat Hardy 596
Shandy 589
Ria 587
TAMERA64 583
qbaum 570
nitepiano 565
Tink2 553
Irwin 544
musica 539
deanbell 528
RobertK 527
Roderic 522
Moosesong 521
BB Wilbur 511
goodfolks 499
Deej56 489
Zeek 487
Stu 486
Steve P. 481
KathyW 462
allenb 459
MaxG 458
Philjo 454
R&M 448
fanito 448
trush48 448
dmk 442
arealrush 437
DGR 436
avweek 435
Stephen D 433
Emmy 431
Rob L 426
marquez 422
kit 419
Softkrome 417
kyrksongs 415
RRon 408
Laura G. 407
Debra 407
eb 406
cuebald 399
EdPerrone 399
Dannyk1 395
Hobart 395
Davyboy49 393
Smile 389
GJShades 387
Ezt 384
tone 380
Marla 380
Cecilee 379
iggyiggy 378
coalminer 377
java 374
spidey 371
sweetsong 370
danny 367
Jim Ryan 360
papaG 353
Alek 352
Z - man 350
John K 348
JamesDF5 347
Jaden 344
ddreuter 341
TheBaz 340
Steggy 339
leif 339
tonedeaf 336
rickwork 334
Eddie Ray 332
Johnboy 328
Bob Lever 328
Helicon1 327
lucian 326
Muskie 321
kc 319
Z. Mulls 318
ptondreau 313
Chris B. 310
trush 304
ed323 297
Ellen M 293
lizzorn 291
nicnac49 290
pomeranj 289
Char 286
ktunes 285
mastrose 280
pammie 279
Register Today!
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.

By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#541084 - 09/14/07 03:10 AM Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No?  
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,613
Iggy Offline
Top 200 Poster
Iggy  Offline
Top 200 Poster

Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,613
Manheim, PA
I’ve heard a lot of recommendations for vocalists to use ear plugs when singing to stay on pitch.

I’ve tried using plugs in both ears and then one ear but find I get worse. I must admit I can hear my own voice much better when I’m “plugged up” but I lose hearing the music which, I find, keeps me on pitch.

Thoughts? Plugs yes/no? Alternatives?

#541085 - 09/14/07 03:19 AM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: Iggy]  
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,401
Hummingbird Offline
Hummingbird  Offline

Top 100 Poster

Joined: May 2005
Posts: 2,401
Victoria, B.C. Canada
Personally I am against any kind of mechanical device that measures your ability to sing the pitch or gives you a concert-A pitch to match while singing. The reason I'm against these things is that I feel we start then to sing mechancially, 'making' the voice sing. The voice is a wind instrument that needs free breath, lack of tension, belief/trust, and reasonably good articulation in order to sing effectively on pitch. In addition, plugging your ears means you hear your voice from 'inside' your body... which can often lead to vocal problems because what we 'feel' and 'hear' inside the body may not be what other people get from us. It's too myopic.

I teach many people who come to me as 'tonedeaf' folks who can't carry a tune at all, or who have some difficulty carrying a tune, and with good mentoring, every single one of them learns to sing on pitch through supporting the voice effectively and removing old habits that get in the way.

Just my opinion...

Vikki Flawith: Songwriter/Composer, Singer/Voice Teacher


MY STORY & MY MUSIC: http://www.vikkiflawith.com
Be a FAN: http://www.reverbnation.com/vikkiflawith
#541086 - 09/14/07 03:43 AM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: Iggy]  
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 34
Gina V Offline
Casual Observer
Gina V  Offline
Casual Observer

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 34
South Buffalo (Freeport) PA
Y'know what Iggy-- I'm gonna agree with Vicki on that. For all th reasons she talked about, and because I think in the style of music you produce, as a listener I'd much rather hear a little "character" in the vox rather than a sterile sound. But once again, I'm a rocker-- and that goes with the territory I suppose. I don't have all the technical knowledge that Vick or some of the professional teachers have, but I can hear the finished product and Know what sounds good to me. Anyroad, it's not like anything you've done stands out really bad, like a sore thumb or somethin'. I just appreciate it for what it is. Nothing at all wrong with wanting to improve something, but I just feel that there's a line not to cross. I can understand wanting to pluck out the wild nose hair (something a great friend and mentor of mine once said,) but yeh don't want to get a whole nosejob for the sake of that one hair.

I dig your music-- and your sound. It's all yours, bro. Keep the faith!!


That's ME-- in the BAG!! (performing "Yer Blues")
#544551 - 09/26/07 03:39 PM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: Gina V]  
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,867
Heidi Thompson Offline
Serious Contributor
Heidi Thompson  Offline
Serious Contributor

Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,867
Hey guys,
For me, if I am performing on a stage with loud stage volume and I cannot hear myself, I will tend to over-sing and go sharp. I have excellent pitch (relative pitch), but there are circumstances which can place stress upon the fragile instrument called the voice.

The best thing I've found to handle this problem is the in-ear monitor. It allows you to hear whatever mix of voice and instruments you want. They have a way to fit the monitor to a mold of the inside of your own ear and it is a technology that can save your voice from singing too hard.

It makes the stage mix more comfortable and that can be a huge blessing, especially if the audience is also very loud. However, I prefer not to use it if the stage volume is comfortable enough for me to hear the floor monitors.

Also, placing the drums stage left or stage right rather than in the center can help the singer hear better on stage and protect the ears from the frequencies generated by the cymbals, etc. It can be balanced to look better on stage if you also place a riser on the other side for the keys or guitar. It really helps.

"And, in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make." Paul McCartney
#544553 - 09/26/07 03:49 PM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: Heidi Thompson]  
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,558
Tom Tracy Offline
Top 100 Poster
Tom Tracy  Offline
Top 100 Poster

Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,558
Lumberport,WV, USA
If I have to listen to a really bad singer that can't stay on pitch, then I like to use ear plugs.

I'm with Heidi on this one. I've used the in-ear monitors with an Aviom system. The Aviom gives me 16 channels from the board where I can mix what I want to hear right there on stage - so I can tune out the bad singers and turn up the good ones.

#563433 - 11/29/07 10:22 PM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: Heidi Thompson]  
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 556
Top 500 Poster
pRISCILLA  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 556
Barcelona, Spain
I agree entirely
if I listen properly to myself I can really be in pitch, i've struggled in severe or harsh monitoring conditions and of course you can remain on pitch but you go sharper or louder than you should damaging your chords... the right monitoring is pivotal

Priscilla Hernandez singer-songwriter
New album at:
#636448 - 07/24/08 10:51 PM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: pRISCILLA]  
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 276
markus-ky Offline
Top 500 Poster
markus-ky  Offline
Top 500 Poster

Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 276
only when the music/speakers are mega loud. if not, I can't hear myself in pitch.


#700769 - 03/12/09 01:27 PM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: markus-ky]  
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,051
Johnny Daubert Offline
Top 25 Poster
Johnny Daubert  Offline
Top 25 Poster

Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 8,051
New Jersey, USA
New Info:

The brand ETY makes ETY-20 ear plugs that allow all frequencies to be heard, just at a 20db lowered volume. Get the "Baby Blues" if not having a HUGE ear canal, for they are more comfortable, and not for babies! Around 12 dollars, US. Can hear better of self from hearing some from the inside of the mouth to the inner ear/bone corridor.

They also make "Musician's Ear Plugs". Custom fitted, and you will need a prescription for them. They lower volume by 25 db, and give even a more clear sound of all frequencies. Around 120 to 150 dollars.

I find the ETY-20 Baby Blues good for the band playing and for tuning pianos. (Not as an attacking noise, which is what can damage our ears, either from just one loud snare drum hit, or a high loud guitar note, or anything a band player does, to long term hearing of everything in general at higher levels.

I would encourage the parents here with children to have them use either a child's headset, or the baby blues, if their ear canals are not too tiny. Write to "Moe" at that company, and she will be glad to go over your specific questions. Tell her I sent you if you like.

ETY's site:

Actually a Member Since 1996 or 97 (Number One Hundred Something).
Songnado I and II:

#700797 - 03/12/09 02:49 PM Re: Ear Plugs for pitch Yes or No? [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,463

Top 20 Poster

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,463
Edinburgh, Scotland. UK
It depends very much on the setup and style you are singing. In small halls playing mainly acoustic at a fairly low volume then no plugs are necessary and decent singers should be able to hear everything and remain in tune. Singing with a loud rock type band using very loud PA is a completely different story. First the ears must be protected as exposure at close range over a prolonged time can cause tinitus (ringing in the ears) and long term damage leading to deafness. It is very difficult hearing what the rest are playing and staying in pitch if you are standing in front of a drummer or guitar amp so in those situations plugs or in ear monitors are a must.
Re plugs that help you sing in tune I do not think they work...if they did then why are the tone deaf poptarts and boybands who frequent the charts not forced to use them. Maybe they would sing in tune for once using these gizmos instead of relying on Autotune or lip sync.

Support Just Plain Folks

We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.

Join Just Plain Folks
to receive the free
JPNotes Newsletter!
*this is separate from
message board registration*

Newest Members
RCJames, vaduvala, Jack_Lee, Nverjr, 10East
21018 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Average Posts Daily50
Most Online1,506
Mar 16th, 2017
Just Plain Quotes
"The music industry is filled with risk takers, but not so filled with people who educate themselves before taking the leap." –Brian Austin Whitney
Today's Birthdays
L. James Tanner (54), tomwisnowski (67)
Popular Topics(Views)
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0