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A portamento is a smooth glide up or down from one note to another. It can be short, moving a minor second, or it can go beyond an octave.
My favorite is the clarinet portemanto in...well, I'll let you guess what it's in.
And what's your favorite?
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Hint. I want a hint. Was it from a musical?
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It wasn't written to be a musical. It was a major "work."
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Portamento? I think my parents used to get those at the Italian butcher shop when I was a kid...
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Here is another Hint- The composer has my initials. (I'm I right Mike?)
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Welcome, Gregg, right you are!
You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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OK. I've got it. It's the first thing that came to my mind but I kept thinking of Porgy and Bess and that wasn't right.
It has a color.
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OK, and while folks are catching on to that one, here's another one. It's a famous 60's rock song with a bass note portamento that goes up a fifth.
You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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Sigh. I guess I need a hint. Again.
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Jean,
The portamento is played on the bass. A twelve string picks the part, and the title mentions another instrument. 1965, if I recall correctly.
Mike
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OK, and while folks are catching on to that one, here's another one. It's a famous 60's rock song with a bass note portamento that goes up a fifth. Spinning Wheel?
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I like the slides that are in the break of "A Day In a Life"! Many sounds are not slides of course, but there are a few in there.
I also like the bass one in "One Of These Nights" The Eagles.
And I bet Jaco has a ton of them!
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John, great stuff. Jaco found portamentos to be easy, unlike some other bass players, he didn't fret about them.
I also like the velvety smooth slides in that song with the terribly un-pc hooky phrase in that unlikely hook by a singer from an underground band. Now, I wonder, which one was that?
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John, Nope, not spinning wheel, but that was a great one. I used to sing that in an oldies band. The one I'm thinking of was from a rock band that later turned somewhat country. The slide was done on a bass by a bass player who later became a grammy winning piano session player (I was thrilled to play some sessions with him years ago, and got that info from the horse's mouth.) So now we have two songs in question. I'll give more clues later
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OK, Jean, for the bass portamento from the 1965 hit, the band was not made up of supermen, nor were they airplanes.
For the velvety smooth slides in the un-pc song, both leads were played with a reed.
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no bells are ringing for me.
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That would be the Byrds version of Dylan's "Tambourine Man". I just got a tambourine for Christmas, so I should know. I also got a cowbell. I want another one.
How about another hit song with a bass portamento...while it goes down, another one goes up. 1972.
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Oops, Marnie beat me to the cookie.
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Don't forget, there's another one up too! And it's a lu-lu.
You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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I have heard the term before. Honestly, I did not think of the meaning and if I would have guessed I would have thought it was some odd shaped fish. Though I know what an Aria is. I did Dylan's "knocking On Heavens Door" when I first picked up an acoustic guitar. I am going to have to try "Tambourine Man".
Thanks Mike for enlightening those who do not know these terms.
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Jaco found portamentos to be easy, unlike some other bass players, he didn't fret about them. Ha! Mike, good one! (Jaco having ripped the frets out of his Fender Jazz)
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Lou Reed? Velvet Underground? No idea of the song though if that's even the band.
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It was "velvety" by a guy FROM an "underground" band. Two reeds on the lead, one sang, the other played at the end. So close, so close. Two portamentos, going opposite directions. Probably the jazziest rock hit of all time, practically Brubeck sans piano. Here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pAE5G5OBzw
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Mike gets the cookie for the lu-lu. This song and the album it was on was produced by David Bowie, and this cool and unusual production is a big part of why this song is so appealing, even to people who are offended by the content. Those fading in and out doot doodoots, the in-your-face vocal sound...just a stellar recording. One of the portamentos (portamenti?) is on a stand up bass, the other is, if I recall correctly, an electric bass.
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Cool song. Worst vocal. Like Dylan I guess. Too cool to ignore.
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Oh, no, John, please don't tell me a lifelong musician like you doesn't "get" Dylan or Lou Reed! How come no one complains about Louis Armstrong's voice?
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How about a trombone portamento? 1962, big hit. This song really took off!
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I know the answer, so I can't answer. Catch 22. But your phrasing is the best.
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Yeah there' ssome kind of portobello goin' on in "take a walk on the wild side".
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How about the horn in the very beginning of the Bozo the clown theme song?
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How about some vocal portamentos? There are a whole lot of them.
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I have not looked much in to the underground paramento's, but got in to some of the Velvet Underground. I probably have got in to many paramento's without knowing them.
Lou Reed! Now his kind of stuff went in to that New York, NRBQ sound that sprouted acts like David Bowie.
I like those over and under scales. Scales like that exist in a lot of alt and psychedelic music, now that I think about it.
Magic Carpet Ride (Steppenwolf) almost sounds like the players are in their own orbit with it, yet it sounds unified and unique. I don't know if that song would qualify as having a paramento though.
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What is the latest on Lou Reed's health?
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