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Larry,

Classical categories are ONLY judged on Albums except for Classical Contemporary which is it's own sub category. You shouldn't be worrying about "songs." Albums can be original or cover.. it doesn't matter. In the case of Contemporary Classical albums, if the material supports it, we'll have an award for both Best Album and Best Composition. (Song to me is too limited in description for a Classical piece which might be a few minutes or an entire album length).

Once we whittle the numbers down, we will break out the remaining albums into sub categories if there's enough quality albums still in the running which would include Chamber, Concerto, Solo, Orchestral etc. In Classical Vocal, we might separate out Opera from Classical Vocal if justified.

Brian

I'm glad that question came up. I've noticed that and am glad to know.

Brenda

Hi Brenda,

It's Lack of respect and Illegal not to Give the credits of the original writers and the current Publishers.

Needless to say they have not paid the royalty's payable in advance before the release of the C.D. and they have not even got permission to record those songs.

A lot of this goes on at Sound Click

Lamorna

Lamorna,

You can't make that assessment based on this. It has nothing to do with what was or wasn't paid to anyone and it's isn't even info that the public could ever see. It's just a helpful little piece of info to make it easier for our judging process and it's not 100% complete and we know that going in. It's just a helpful piece of info if it happens to be included. In the past we had to manually look up 100% of the writers on every CD liner notes and sometimes artists choose not to list that info or it's not complete. Even that means nothing most of the time as there is no industry standard on how it must be listed. The only rule is that it must be properly paid for and there's no way for us to know that no matter what. Someone could easily list all the proper names and still not the pay the bill. We'd never know.

Brian

oh my god, i keep on checking regularly on this, as i'm curious (any possible dates of announcing results, no hurry though, I really don't envy such enormous task) it has to be so complex and so many entries, pheww

maybe next year it would be easier to submit videos in youtube or vimeo rather than dvds, it would be easier for screening, now that youtube (thanks god) have just opened a high definition option... now artists will be able to upload it in high def quality there.

Priscilla,

We don't get a huge number of videos. We might do the videos on line some day. It's really sort of a bonus category that we do for fun and to give us a little change of pace here. We actually need to remind people to send us some videos. We also need to kick off the lyric award process which we do on the message boards here.

Brian

Brian,
Re: Your other post seeking Peer Reveiwers. I am doing three that you mentioned now. I have done 226 of 477 in the first catagory. May or may not finish the first Catagory before Jan. Can't say how long it will take to finish all three catagorys.

It doesn't have to be done before January. Our goal is to be done with this round by the end of January. But if it takes 6 more months, we'll spend whatever time we have to. We just really don't WANT to take that long. We'd like to get nominations out by April at the latest and have the awards show over the summer.

Brian

Brian what causes "undefined" to come up when I click on a track......

Is that something I might be causing when I jump off from listening...and come back? ....

best
Kaley

Try hitting "refresh" and see it if loads. If that doesn't work, then click "complete" and the next one should start playing, then click the "back" button to go back to the one that wouldn't play and many times it WILL start playing. The only exception is if it is actually missing. 150 of the 17,000 albums are missing. We have them all here at JPF HQ.

That bug is being looked at. Sorry. But that solution has worked for me and others.

Brian

Ok..Brian..you guys probably gave that answer before....but
couldn't find it quickly....

Will do that next time!... ...but I have a couple prior to your answer that I sent to

Postpone-ment land .... whoops....

best......
Kaley

Hi All,
When I leave the site I just go to another site I have Bookmarked. To come back to listen again I have got the message Wait for the page to load. The Fix is to Re-Start my Computer. No problem Do not Log Out or you will have to go thru a diffucult time getting back on.

Ray,

Don't reboot your computer. Do what I suggested above and it will work. Hit "complete" and then "back" and it should start playing.

Brian

I just hit postpone and the next album plays just fine. I don't like hitting complete until I have really completed it, but that's just me.

Kevin

Kevin,

It's much better to hit "complete" and then "back" and you can go ahead and finish that album and then hit complete when you're done. That way you stay on track and in order. I am sorry you guys are having to do this. They are trying to find and fix the bug.

Brian

I have discovered it also works to just hit "back" and then "complete" on the completed one, which will then bring you back to the one you're' trying to listen to! (Try saying that 3 times!)

Kristi,

I agree, but if you just started a new category, that's not an option.

Brian

I have been hitting postpone in the belief that you can come back to it. I was under the impression that if you hit complete it logs and records it as if you have listened but not flagged it as being special. That seems a shame and is unfair to the album and artist.

Big Jim: Brian is saying to hit complete and then use the back button (immediately) and review the LP.

However, since I never know when I am going to be interrupted, I will continue to hit postpone and move to the next one. That "postponed" LP will show up later.

Kevin

Thanks Kevin. I think I will still hit postpone just in case I make a mistake. It is only the occasional album that is effected.
It usually only happens when I first log on.

You can hit postpone as long as you know you'll finish the category and get back to it. Otherwise, you'll never see/hear it again.

They're telling me that they can't repeat the bug on their end and haven't been able to fix it. (and they really WANT to fix it believe me). So how can we give them a repeatable example that they can 100% be sure will not work properly so they can figure out the cause? We're all having the trouble, but I can't ALWAYS make it happen myself.

Suggestions?

Brian

Brian,
You mis-understood. I have the Site Bookmarked. When I go to the Site to listen and click on the Catagory I am reveiwing the next Album comes up and starts playing automaticaly. When I am finished with that album and click complete the next album comes and starts playing, automaticaly. It all works fine as long as I am proceeding. When I want to take a break I may go to another site in my favorites. I just click on a site and leave the music site. However if I want to come back to listening to more music then it says Wait for the Page To Load. Nothing will play so I just sign off and re-start my computer and when I come back everything starts to work just fine. I don't know why this happens but it does for some reason. So if some of you are having this problem try re-starting your computer and it will probably fix it so you can continue to reveiwing the music.

Ray,

I have the problem, but to fix it I just hit complete and then back and it works fine. I don't have to restart to make it work. But it doesn't always happen and the folks who make the software aren't able to make it happen at all apparently.

Brian

Question: I am screening genre xxxx. However all of the songs on one album have been switched to genre yyyyy (I guess by another screener). Because of this I can not individually "pick" any on the songs. I can "pick" the album but not any single songs -- UNLESS I switch that one song's genre back to xxxx. (This is the 2nd album that I have run into this situation.)

It makes sense if you think about it, but I don't know if this is the way you want the program to operate. The specific example here is "Out In The Cold: Perry Danos Sings The Songs of Bob Levy"

Kevin

If you feel the songs belong in the genre you are screening, then you can switch their genre to the genre you are screening and then flag them. If you don't think they fit, leave them alone. If you don't think they are worth flagging, leave them alone. Same with the album.

Does that make sense to you?

Brian

Makes perfect sense, just wondering if that was a "bug" or by design.

Kevin

Kevin,

When someone moves an album to a new genre, all the songs will still stay in the old genre unless they are changed too. That way if there's stuff that has been flagged it won't change unless someone manually does it. We have to put a lot of trust in the judges not to make bad decisions and so far, with the sheer number involved, there's been very few problems. But there are occasional bad judgements and mistakes. The good news is that they can be fixed by simply moving stuff back if needed.

Brian

I changed the genre on one CD and its songs but it came back, so I moved past it once again, however, I keep seeing some of the CDs I have already reviewed come back again. I am getting tired if hearing the same ones over again, especially if I passed on them the first time. What is going on there?

Jack,

The only way something would come back is if you didn't COMPLETE it. It's possible if something was traded by other judges back and forth that you could see it again, but for it to happen MANY times seems unlikely. Are you sure you're hitting "complete" rather than "postpone?" We haven't had any other reports of this.

Brian

Just about finished judging "Hard Rock". Brian, you weren't kidding when you warned me it was time consuming {but fun.}I've got about 80 to go, and I should be wrapping up sometime next week.

This is the one with 1000 CD'S??? You have my respect...I'm 50 away from finishing a category with 239 CD's, and I thought that was long...

Actually Hard Rock isn't that big. Rock has over 1000 albums. And by the way, please avoid if possible discussing which genres you are judging. = )

So far no one has gotten even 1/3 of the way through Rock.. not sure what we're going to do with that one.

Thanks!

Brian

Brian, I am quite certain I hit complete, not postpone and it has happened at least four times, and I think more. The first few times I just thought I was imagining it, when I finally found one CD that I thought was excellent and marked it complete and it came back the next day I knew I wasn't imagining anymore. Then three of the next five CDs came back and I knew I wasn't imagining it. One of them I thought might have come back because I changed genre on the CD and all songs, and when it came back they were all reset to what they were so I figured you decided I was wrong about the genre and resubmitted it, but the others, I simply could not wait to mark complete. I seldom cut a song short unless it gets irritating to continue. I really don't want to hear one of those again, if I cannot even stand to go through the whole song.

Jack,

Obviously if you've already screened them, you don't need to listen to them again. I am not sure why you'd think you need to. If complete isn't working for you, then postpone should put them at the end of your genre. If that isn't working either then there's clearly a tech issue of some type. If you're otherwise at the end of the genre, then just consider it complete for now and move on to the next.

This hasn't been reported by anyone else of the thousands of current judging sessions going on. So I am not sure what to make of it. If you can list the names of these CD's that keep coming back up and explain the story in an email to me to jpfolkspro@aol.com I will get the info to the programmers to have a look. Because it hasn't happened before, either there's something unique about your situation or it's a new problem that hasn't hit others yet. But if it's a tech glitch, it will likely start hitting everyone else judging your category the same.

Brian

I will start tracking the ones that come back. It is possible that I am having connectivity problems on occasion and maybe it isn't registering because of it, but it is not the case every time. Obviously I don't listen through them again, but often I am working on a project (woodworking) and the music is playing, when I realize I have heard what is playing before so when I go over to the computer I will see it was a CD I already marked complete.

I've spoken with the tech people and they're not aware of this happening, so if you have specific examples again, please give them to me with an explanation and they can take a look.

Brian

Sorry bout that!

read the above post about looking for judges for world, i know a well known world journalist around here taht knows english, i've e-mailed him to see if he might be able to help, hope he replies and get into it!