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#666084 - 11/07/08 06:35 PM
Re: What is the range for an acoustic duo
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Barry Crannell
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Monica,
I've always tried to include whether you need to schlep around a sound system or not, but it's certainly not the bottom line. Acoustic gigs are more fun if you can be heard.
I'd have to agree with Bob on this one. $300 is nice, but hard to get a guarantee like that from most venues. They often rely on your draw to make any money on the music. No draw, no money. I always used to enjoy playing at Border's instead of bars. The audience was more engaged, the room quieter, cd sales were better and, at one time, they actually paid their performers. Also, it made a better impact on the mailing list, and those are the ones you might want to go after.
Right now, my wife and I play at a nice wine shop for 3 hours (too long for my taste) and get $175 (we do sound). The beauty of it is, we're doing it for fun, and not so much for the money (thank God). It works for us because we prefer a listening audience to a noisy room.
I just can't recommend a 4 hour gig, but that's personal. Keep it fun.
Best to ya,
Barry
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#666136 - 11/07/08 09:34 PM
Re: What is the range for an acoustic duo
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A lot of the places around here also have the "Open Mike" nights, which just means free entertainment for them. It's a good thing I'm no longer pursuing the brass ring around this stuff. Helps to have a day job I suppose, keeps the music fun.
I do love where music has taken me in the past, however - and it wouldn't do to be without it.
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#666146 - 11/07/08 10:05 PM
Re: What is the range for an acoustic duo
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Letha Allen
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Hi Monica,
Good luck on going out, I know those butterflys when you start out. I do have a suggestion for you. If you go listen to some musicians at the establishments you would like to play at, and catch one on a break, it is likely you can get an idea of what that establishments average pay is,by striking up a converstaion about music.
It is different in every area, and every establishment. One small restaurant in my area has singles or duos every weekend. On one side of the road, the musicians have to have an agent, and can get up to $400 a night for a proven act. They want you to go through an agent.
On the other side of the street at a little coffehouse, they pay 75 dollars a night no matter how many in the act.
Just starting, I would play somewhere even if it was not very much pay, just to get my feet wet, and chase the butterflys, and get something under my belt to use in promotion of your show.
I have played for nothing, tips, $50, $200, one song at a wedding for $100, and you will get a kick out of this, at a place called Mainly Chocolate, tips and a pound of whatever chocolate I wanted lol.
But, if you get out, are well recieved, and research the going rate for your area, then I would stick to whatever rates you set and not do too many pro bono shows, as that can make you look not as desired or professional.
I am not a pro, but played in bands, single, and duo, and trios for quite a few years, so these are just my personal thoughts on the subject.
Good luck and have fun!
Letha
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#666234 - 11/08/08 11:30 AM
Re: What is the range for an acoustic duo
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Monica: I don't perform but I sure respect what you are about to do. It takes a special form of courage to get out there and start building a fan base. I suppose one of the hardest things to take while "gigging" is to put up with the inconsiderate fools who make all that noise while you're up there wearing your voice out. Best wishes for success and happiness. Dave http://www.showcaseyourmusic.com/DaveRice
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#666416 - 11/09/08 12:06 PM
Re: What is the range for an acoustic duo
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I host an open mic night, and get paid for it. A modest fee, considering I bring the PA and typically around 7 people who poplulate the coffee bar. So it's a symbiotic relationship. My name, such as it is, helps draw other local players and even some from further away, so business is usually really good on a Friday night.
Too often though, smaller venues will offer a 'bar tab' in other words a few free beers, I just remind those who offer that, that music is not my hobby, I pay my bills and buy groceries for my family with the money I make making and selling music. Sometimes if you want to be taken seriously you have to have a dollar figure attached to your name/service...unfortunate, but true.
For a duo, I would think that $100 ie $50 each is fair. Don't ever play for beer, don't even act interested!
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#666605 - 11/10/08 01:52 AM
Re: What is the range for an acoustic duo
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Hi Monica,Alot has to do with if you are doing covers or your own material.Most open stages are occupied by singersongwriters who are out there building a fan base so playing for exposure is okay.I fit that category and play out 4to5nights a week sometimes for free meals and tips.I have a good job so money isn't that important to me.on the other side of the coin if you're playing covers i would charge $100 an hour for a duo .Like the above people said you have to decide whether you are working musicians or doing it for extra cash or the rush of adulation LOL.Anyway good luck I'm heading to Nashville November 22nd for a few days of getting my name out there.AJ PS you never know i may be over your way some time soon to play a open mic.Seems i've looked in that direction and there are a few.
Last edited by AJ Baker; 11/10/08 01:56 AM.
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