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#622792 - 06/04/08 07:06 PM "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..."  
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I was on the NSAI website last night listening to pro writers on the archives.
One I finally caught up with was Dottie Rambo. I was not familiar with her work, but she's been writing songs since age eight. She's known as a gospel and country writer, with about 2.500 songs to her credit. Whitney Houston also cut one of her songs and sang it in the movie "The Preacher's Wife."

In the intereview Rambo talked briefly about, "...losing a book with 1,000 songs in it...
If you don't record them and don't pay attention to them, you'll lose them," she said.

Makes me cringe to think about losing that many songs.

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#622796 - 06/04/08 07:23 PM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Lee Arten]  
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Very sad but not too sad if you do the math. If she has 2,500 songs to her credit and lost 1,000 does that mean she had 3,500 to start with? Her loss was great but she still had a significant amount she didn't lose (although there could've been something real special in that 1,000)

I keep a hard copy in my drawer, a hard copy at my mom's, a copy on computer and a copy on my flashdrive and then there's the Library of Congress. The worst scenario would be a fire or computer crash so keeping a copy at other location gives you another level of safekeeping.

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#622814 - 06/04/08 08:35 PM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Lynn Orloff]  
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Hey Guys

This conversation kinda depressed me...How many of us have really good songs that NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD.......I'm wondering how many of those 1000 no one ever heard..........

I personally am so back-logged recording-wise (I have no home studio) no one has heard some great songs I wrote 4 years ago.........

At one time I had such high hopes for 1 tune I've NEVER recorded....after awhile I just kinda set it aside for the "newest" tune........

When I get a little extra cash to record a DEMO/MASTER this song's litttle brother or sister gets the call ahead of it.........

OK enuff lamenting........

Steve Altonian---"I'll just do my best & let God do the rest"

#622816 - 06/04/08 08:41 PM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Steve Altonian]  
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I went through a particularly fertile period a few years ago where I quickly filled a notebook with songs and song ideas which I have since lost. I remember some stuff from the notebook. The best of the best I am performing, but I know there are some that I liked and cannot remember completely. I could try rewriting them, but I have lost the soul of the originals in some cases and I never seem to get it back once that happens so I just move ahead and forget about them. I have one song from many years ago of which I can only remember one verse, but I happen to really like the song and would like to record it at some point. I will rewrite that one if I have to. It was also in a very full notebook of stuff that went missing.

#622818 - 06/04/08 08:50 PM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Lynn Orloff]  
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Yes a bummer for sure, but the lesson for all of us is to understand the importance of backing-up whether on computer or hard copy.

#622821 - 06/04/08 08:56 PM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Nigel Quin]  
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Actually just seeing Jack's note, made me think that it is often the unfinished stuff and/or ideas that can be more costly to lose. I know exactly what you mean about losing the 'soul' of the work. At least a completed song is more likely to be available in more than one place.

#622958 - 06/05/08 06:18 AM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Nigel Quin]  
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It would bother me, but I would get over it. If it was good enough to remember, then she would at least have a worktape of it. If they were important she would have turned them into her publisher

#623148 - 06/05/08 07:15 PM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Stevens119]  
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I wonder if artistic types are prone to this kind of loss.
Ernest Hemingway's wife left an envelope with several of his manuscript on a train while they were traveling in France.

Of course, Hemingway was sort of accident prone. He took a swig of cleaning fluid thinking it was water one night. Pulled down a skylight on his head once, and was in two plane crashes during one safari in Africa. I think he also had a bad car wreck in the late '30s out west someplace.

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#623172 - 06/05/08 09:04 PM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Lee Arten]  
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I do transcribe my lyrics from paper to my computer, but I tend to do it as time permits and the songs I am the most interested in usually get preferential treatment. I had some of the lyrics from my lost notebook on my computer but there were a good number that I had not entered, yet, including several snippets I liked.

#623225 - 06/06/08 12:36 AM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Jack Swain]  
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A couple of years ago I found a handful of songs I wrote in high school. The paper was literally brown from age and the penmanship was atrocious. For the life of me I don't know where my head was at back then. Pretty lame too. I can't remember any of the melodies either. Just a second while I ask my wife how old I am...I'll be 57 this summer.

#623273 - 06/06/08 03:37 AM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: Rick Heenan]  
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Dottie Rambo was a true woman of God (first), and a gifted writer (second). She loved the God she wrote about, and was never seeking fame and fortune. I disagree with the harsh comment about Ms. Rambo, that if her songs (in the lost notebook) had been any good, that she'd have turned them into her publisher. Maybe those songs were written long before she was published. For heaven's sake, she started writing at the age of eight! (I understand... I was composing [piano] at the age of 5, and writing lyrics at ten.)

I thank God (and Dottie Rambo) for such powerful, world-changing songs such as "He Looked Beyond My Fault and Saw My Need" and "His Eye is on the Sparrow" and "We Shall Behold Him".

Take a closer look. Not all of my music is gospel/ Christian, although a lot of it is... and I love and serve the same God that Ms. Rambo did. (She's with Him, now, and getting her GREATEST reward!!)

Why do YOU write?? Thoughtfully, and with prayers for the Rambo family, Becky Wright

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#623280 - 06/06/08 04:09 AM Re: "Lost a book with 1,000 songs..." [Re: bwsongs]  
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I just can't imagine writing this great song, and not even singing it once into a tape recorder. Maybe they are the 1,000 best songs ever, that nobody will ever hear. I lose files here and there, but I've never lost any of the good stuff. This is a good time for a reminder. If you really have something make a recording of it.

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