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Mike you are too much. JPF is a great forum but it is not a working cooperative. In the sense that we do not actively as a group produce and distribute music commercially. However workerS uniting AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT and forming a cooperative is probably too right wing for most Yanks to grasp.
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Now wait a minute Big Jim Let me see if I can grasp this. First you said A kind of cooperative where we can all unite to become a force to fight the establishment. We have to start somewhere. There are too many independants who produce great music but alone are too small to compete. Just a thought a dream if you like. Had it for over thirty years. Always fell on deaf ears. But now with technology and easy communications it just might work. Lots of small outfits working together as one. Probably too left wing for most americans.
Then you said However workerS uniting AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT and forming a cooperative is probably too right wing for most Yanks to grasp. Now I see the problem. Us Yank Americans are all confused. we don't know our left from our right
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That's why we drive on this side of the road.
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The art of sarcasm is lost on you lot!!!!! LOL
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uniting AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT Jim, I don't want to unite AGAINST anyone. I believe we're all in this together. I like to kid people, and tease. I don't, however, want to put down anyone, for any reason.
You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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The art of sarcasm is lost on you lot!!!!! LOL Now that Don Rickles isn't performing, all the new sarcasm is crap.
You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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Oh Mike you disapoint. You mean you would not want to help set up or join a cooperative business to promote real talent that would compete against the mediocre chart stuff FORCING THE SUITS TO LOOK HARDER FOR BETTER TALENT? OK. It was only a dream. You cannot fight apathy.
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Well seeing how I started this forest fire of opinions I may as well revisit it.
Ok lets see here. I never said any music was crap or worthless. I think all music has it's place and merrit. For one thing early Beatles music was lacking in real technical ability in my opinion. Now that said later Beatles music was astoundingly technical. Do I enjoy the earlier stuff any less? No because there were good pieces there as well stuff I really enjoyed.
Now my real point is this. I loved popular music of all genre's up until the last 5 years (that's when in my opinion it started taking a real nose dive). What confirms this in my opinion is that record sales really started dropping about the same time. Some people blame the internet and theft. To me that was there even in the mid 90s so that argument doesn't hold water.
Now to confuse the issue even further. I actually do like a few of the more popular hits of recent. One that was exceptional in my opinion was Nickel Backs "I wanna be a rock star". I also like Sugarlands "Stay" very emotional and I really liked the video. There are also some others I have liked.
Now back to what is my real intention to get across. Nothing, even the stuff I like is inspiring the way a miles davis song is. No solo sounds as good as the one's Clapton and Duane Allman played. There are no " What a Wonderful World" songs being played. I know there has always been good music and music that wasn't as good (I won't call it crap). However nothing I hear today makes me want to pick up my guitar and play along nothing!. Very few song make me want to sing along. To me it's all become about entertainment rather than art. That's why music has been so cleaned up cause otherwise we might hear what the artist really sounded like. These days they take pretty faces and hot bodies and make them sound as good as they look. Though like all the plastic surgery and makeup the music is no different. Sure it sounds pretty, but it's not raw and real. Joe cocker could never make it as an upcoming artist these days. I have my doubts about whether Van Morrison would either. These are two of my favorite past artists. They didn't always sound polished. They had something more they sounded awesome. They were real, live and raw. Think Tina Turner when she was with Ike that was RAW! Think Creedence versus anything with just John Fogerty (I hate center field).
So to finish this off what I am looking for is inspiration. Am I entertained by todays music? Yes quite entertained. Am I inspired to write or sing or play or sound like it? (Pardon my french) HELL NO! So if the music industry is listening how bout letting artists control what they release and giving the indies a shot? If you don't then watch your little monopoly come crumbling to the ground.
(by the way the poll so far suggests I'm not alone in this) Derek
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Well said I agree 100% with the sentiment if not entirely with the examples as exactly being my favs but they are certainly high on my playlist. Perhaps my use of the word crap has ruffled a few feathers. But you know me I am not afraid to say what I think and to heck with the consequences. It is like saying McDonalds or KFC is crap. Some folk like it and are even addicted to it but it is made from crap and is unhealthy. So in my opinion it is crap. I still enjoy one occasionaly. Same with music some of it (I AM TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL CHART STUFF)is OK occasionaly but most of these "artists" and their music is grossly overated and overpaid for crap or my favourite word of late mediocrity. Strictly I cannot say it is fact but an opinion but it is a very wildly held opinion. Your poll backs this up.
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*quick interruption:
Just TRY to play "I Want to Hold Your Hand". Just TRY.
Not so easy.
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Yep Mark that was one of the points I did not agree with early Beatles songs not being up to much. Ticket to ride is a masterpiece and ticks all the boxes of a great pop song. It is still fresh and young forty odd years on. As with most of their early others.
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Most of them are DEVIOUSLY tricky to play, too.
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Ok so that's not as popular an opinion however even though some of the early stuff was technical love me do wasn't lol. There are a few others like that as well. But again just an opinion. Derek
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Crap has a purpose. Just ask any Amish farmer. They use it to spread across the fields to help fertilize what could be a bumper crop.
And so it should be with music. Spread out the crap across the land, and let it fertilize the soil so that something amazing can grow out of it.
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Brian, I just made that one up. I can see it being one of the "thoughts" in the beginings of a future JP Folks newsletter.
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Mark You may find this triva info interesting.
Ticket to Ride was written on a underground railway in Liverpool. The unusual beat was inspired by the sound the trains made when running across the rails and obviously the song is about travelling on a train. My wife is originally from Birkenhead opposite side of the Mersey from Liverpool and the two places are linked by underground trains or a ferry. Nowadays the modern trains make a different sound. Back in the seventies Emily my long suffering wife came to Edinburgh to do her Nurse training when I first went back home with her to Liverpool the sound was unmistakeable and you could sing Ticket to ride in time to the noise when travelling on the trains. Gerry and the Pacemakers song Ferry across the Mersey has a similar history and story. It utilises a similar unusual beat inspired by the Birkenhead-Liverpool ferry noise. The ferry is almost obselete now except for tourists but back in the bad old days it was a hubub of activity with many commuters using it to get to and from work. Every ferry boat has its own character and you can hear groups of people singing the song on most journey. It has become a tradition.
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Jim,
Great stories.
There's a style of Blues called the "Chicago Double Shuffle." Some musicians here will just say "Take it to Chicago," meaning to play the Chicago Double Shuffle. Growing up in Chicago, I rode the subway and "L" (for elevated) trains nearly every day going to school and knocking around the city. The sound of the wheels over the rails produced a 12/8 dotted rhythm. It was the Chicago Double Shuffle. To this day, while playing it on the bass, I'll accent the Chicago Double Shuffle the way it sounded on the subway, "Duh DAH duduh, Duh DAH duduh."
I'm sure most folks relate the sounds of their lives when listening to music. Probably we prefer the rhythms and pitches of our lives.
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Jim that is a great story about "Ticket to Ride"...every time I think I've heard every Beatles story, another interesting bit comes along. It fits, too...I once heard there was a possibility of some wordplay that they often took the train to Ryde, as in Ticket to Ryde. Also have heard that "a ticket to ride" could be a naughty reference to a clean bill of health for a girlfriend. Wouldn't put ALL of it past Lennon, who was exceptionally witty.
Paul played the very short lead guitar solo on that song, that quick bit after the bridge, after "...do right by me"--he has an unmistakable lead guitar style...it sounds just like his solos on "Good Morning Good Morning" and "Drive my Car".
You know, that same bizarre rhythm drives "Tomorrow Never Knows". I never noticed that before.
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I listened to the greatest hits of Dead Can Dance and it was great. I had forgotten how original and cool that band was. It's like Jim Morrison singing ethnic goth music.
Brian
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Hi Mark Re Ticket to Ride. I can see where you are coming from about the "clean bill of health" John would say something like that. He loved inuendos and hidden meanings. Ryde is a town on the Isle of Wight no where near Liverpool with no trains or any direct service other than a ferry. I cannot see the ref to RYDE except for maybe attending the famous Isle of Wight pop festivals (unlikely reason). However "ride" slang expression for the sexual act is a bit more likely if there is a hidden meaning. But anyway whatever the true meanings hidden or otherwise I have it on good authority that it was either written on or at least inspired by the Liverpool underground trains noise.
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Okay Jim, I found where I had read the "Ryde" reference. I don't claim to know the truth here, and Paul is not always on the ball about what really happened back in the day, but the tidbit came from the "Songfacts.com" site. FWIW:
According to A Hard Day's Write by Steve Turner, many Americans concluded the "ticket" was from British Railways, and "ride" was the town of Ryde on the Isle of Wight. McCartney confessed to his biographer Barry Miles that they were partly right. Paul had a cousin who ran a bar in Ryde and he and John had visited them there. Paul later mentioned that although the song was primarily about a girl riding out of the life of the narrator, they were conscious of the potential for a double meaning.
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Sounds about "Write" lol Funny thing the Beatles were never really forthcoming with their true explanations of things and took great delight winding up journalists and the media. We probably will never know the real truth behind any of their lyrics. John especially played games with the media and had a wicked sense of humour. He used to make something really wild up and the others went alomg with the joke. Many a journalist was hoodwinked into believing such nonesense and took this as verbatim. So all the myths were born. We have a lot in common, you John and me. However the stories I told you I believe are the real Mcoy.
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Yeah I definitely believe the story about the rhythm made by the train.
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That's very interesting.
Ticket to Ride was always one of my favorites.
Dylan was pretty funny with the Press also. I enjoy watching interviews of him from his more youthful days.
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Dylan was pretty funny with the Press also. I enjoy watching interviews of him from his more youthful days. One of my favorites is when a journalist asked him how many protest writers were out there. Dylan doesn't miss a beat - just looks serious and replies "42" Or some number...maybe it was 112. Point was he gave an exact number. Maybe you have to see it..... Scott
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ha, yeah i think he said 112 actually.
he would say the most off the wall things with such a serious look on his face.
the reporters gave him a lot of crap questions to work with.
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42 is the answer to life, the universe and everything.
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Hey Jody you never struck me as being a hitchhiker.
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I'm fond of many things beyond music.
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And wasn't 42 the answer to the Dylan song too?
How many roads must a man walk down? 42.
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I'm fond of two things: Music & getting a ticket to ride
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Looks like the real number was 136. From a review of Scorcese's documentary:
Most revealing of all is the myriad of press conferences in which Dylan is constantly asked “what is your message? What are you trying to say?” Scorsese’s edit takes us from a jovial Dylan famously answering “136” to the question “how many protest singers are there?”, to an angry Dylan shouting back “what do you want me to say?”, to one who seems to have given up altogether and answers in monosyllables.
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Mark you are wrong. The answer to that question is like the main subject in the COWS thread. Blown in the wind.
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And wasn't 42 the answer to the Dylan song too?
How many roads must a man walk down? 42. Has the right feel, Lyle. Forty two is obviously too small for the number of times cannonballs must fly, the number of years a mountain exists, the number of years some people can exist without being free, and the number of times a guy can turn his head and pretend he just doesn't see. On the other hand, it seems too large for the number of seas a white dove must sail before she can sleep, the number of times a guy can look up and not see the sky, and the number of ears a man must have before he hears people cry. But the number of roads a man must walk down? Yeah, 42 sounds about right Man, this number 42 is really showing up. Scott
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Looks like the real number was 136. Yeah, but he only respected 42 of them Thanks for setting the record straight though, Lyle! Scott
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42 The number of cows farting for 42 minutes to equal the polution from one American made 19 42 Cadilac driving at 42 miles per hour for 42 miles up a hill with a 42 degree grade. It's a fact. Oops wrong thread.
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Bill,
I never knew you were a statistical researcher, in addition toyour many other qialifications! It appears that my best friends are far smarter than I am. But, that is by design...it makes me look smart by association. Or, am I just kidding myself?
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I'm hearing an Abbott & Costello bit...
A: Where do you work? C: A sports store, called The One. A: How old are you? C: 42. A: You just said you worked for The One! C: Yeah, for The One. A: Okay then! So how old are you? C: 42! A: Hey, what's the matter with you?!...
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Your kidding yourself Al
True Bill, but the true equation is this -58 from the year 2000 divided by said cows mutiplied to the 10th power equals level of polution or 2000 + (-58) /42x= p . Get it? Got it? Good! Derek
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You all think you are clever. Well with all that methane floating about from the cows plus everyone and everything else farting plus carbon monxide from all the pickups just wait till someone strikes a match. I bet you wont laugh then !!!!
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So Derek,
You mean othrr people really don't think I am smart just because I hang out with friends who are smarter than me? Dang! Now I hafta find another ploy.
Maybe I'll just start hanging out with cows. I have noticed that they do not have to work very hard, get other people to feed them, they don't pay taxes and they can fart whenever they want.
Or, I could just continue tohang out with Bill anyway...and really mess up his street cred!
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Hey Al I think you just figured it out! Hang out with smart people then make em stupid by asking dumb questions. Such as: how many protest singers are out there? Derek
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Following this thread takes fortytude.
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Fourty twos equal eighty.
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Following this thread takes fortytude. Heh-Heh, Mike said farty tune, heh... What thread is this again?
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Let's start a band. The Thread Drifters.
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Anyone want to know how many posts you need to become a serious contributor here? 42 of course.
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42 The number of cows farting for 42 minutes to equal the polution from one American made 19 42 Cadilac driving at 42 miles per hour for 42 miles up a hill with a 42 degree grade. It's a fact. Oops wrong thread. You know I'd like to see a '42 Caddy drive up a 42 degree grade at 42 miles an hour. Maybe one of the 16 cylinder jobs could do it! A 42 degree grade is pretty steep.
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