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#571482 - 12/31/07 09:48 PM HOW MANY SONGS?????  
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How many songs do you think were written in 2007? (Every song, from all around the world, in any way, shape, or form. Heard or not. From a two year old to over a 100 year old. Whether needing rewrites or not. Pro and not. EVERY made up song that could simply be called a song! Words or not. Recorded or not.
EVERY SONG!!!!

Well,,,got a guess for a number? I have no idea!

And, how many people from all around the world do you think wrote at least one song during the year?

I need to know both! Within ten thousand please, high or low!

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#571486 - 12/31/07 10:00 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
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A Bazillion!


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#571501 - 12/31/07 10:57 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Bob Cushing]  
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twenty million songs were written in 2007
5 million people wrote one or more


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#571502 - 12/31/07 10:58 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Bob Cushing]  
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I wrote 2 cd's worth and I'm tired. smile


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#571504 - 12/31/07 11:01 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Louis]  
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Are you serious? Does someone actually know? I would think its impossible. LOL Expecially if there isn't a record of them. LOL I just registered mine a couple of days ago with ASCAP and that was about 15 years worth.

Ya I am a little burned out on writing too. I wrote so much this fall. No I need a little break. But not for long. smile

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#571506 - 12/31/07 11:05 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: TAMERA64]  
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If I knew that I'd could get a job on the boardwalk guessing people's weight. (how do they do that anyway?) cool

P.S. I don't know but just the thought of all those songs and all that creativity gives me the warm and fuzzies!! smile

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#571523 - 01/01/08 01:16 AM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Lynn Orloff]  
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Boy. They wrote twenty million, and I only wrote a dozen? I better get busy. Not much time left, either...

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#571533 - 01/01/08 02:35 AM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Joe Wrabek (D)]  
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Wow - 20 million songs. If we assume each is about 3 minutes, it would take, if I've done my math right, 114 years of constant listening to hear them all.

Good thing they don't all enter the JPF awards smile

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#571549 - 01/01/08 03:24 AM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Scott Campbell]  
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Twenty million and one! (I just finished another one. grin )

Now then, how many of that 20 million didn't suck?

#571595 - 01/01/08 11:38 AM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Mark Kaufman]  
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Hi fellow JPF'rs:

My guess is that the number is closer to 50,000 songs. Every writer is tuned to a different frequency and each is driven (or not) by a different drummer. Some wrote a significant number but I suspect that most wrote maybe only 2 or 3 songs.

Like a commercial for a medical product on TV, here is my caveat:
The estimate above is based on songs that were completed and either recorded or put down on paper as a lyric or melody or both.

I'll be interested if anyone actually discovers a reliable source for this statistic.

All my best,

Dave Rice

#571596 - 01/01/08 11:48 AM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Dave Rice (D)]  
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How many songwriters or would be songwriters are there in the world? Multiply that by an average of 10 and you'll have your answer within 10 to 20 percent.Or not.

#571597 - 01/01/08 11:49 AM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Everett Adams]  
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Oh I forgot, I wrote between 50 to 100 give or take 20.

#571599 - 01/01/08 12:05 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Everett Adams]  
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And I think that guess is just about as close as any other.


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#571603 - 01/01/08 12:59 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Bill Robinson]  
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Hmmmm...I think Ande's a wee-bit on the "High Side."

Here's an Educated Guess:

Let's say JPF has 40K Members (& an additional 10K who don't join in, but probably Lurk:)...& we'uns average-out at 5 Songs a Year. (As good a Guess as Any...heh...but you can get your calculators out & plug in Higher/Lower Numbers & see where it gets ya.)

50K X 5 Songs = 250K Songs/Year.

Now, I'd also guess that JPF makes up around 30% of The USA's Music Folks..a Conservative Guess. (But again, you can plug in Higher/Lower Numbers & see what ya get.)

250K X 70% Add'l = 1,750,000 Songs from the USA.

Believe I read somewhere that there are 7 Major Markets for Songs in the World..

1.7 Mil X 7 = 12,250,000 Songs/yr, Worldwide.

Now, admittedly, SOME of those Markets are SMALLER than the US..so let's alter the Guestimate a bit further:

IF this is "1/3 Off", Overall: deduct 4,166,666 & ya get 8,333,334.

IF it's Off "By-Half", ya get 6,250,000.

So..If ya want a "Spread", the final Guestimate'd be 6,250,000-to-8,333,334 Songs last year.

Or..ya can add the pair together & get 14,583,334 and divide by 2:

7,291,667...

20 Mil it Ain't..but it's as Educated-a-Guess as I'm able to come up with. (Plug in whatever Variables ya wanna & see what ya come up with!)

I'd be More Interested in seeing How Much Loot the Music Industry generated in revenues in 2007...is The Industry in Ascension...or is it in-Decline? (& I'm NOT talkin' about Just Major Labels.)

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#571615 - 01/01/08 01:36 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: ]  
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Let's say JPF has 40K Members (& an additional 10K who don't join in, but probably Lurk:)...& we'uns average-out at 5 Songs a Year. (As good a Guess as Any...heh...but you can get your calculators out & plug in Higher/Lower Numbers & see where it gets ya.)


Pretty optimistic I think Stan to think that only JPF people write songs. To think that those members all write songs regularly. There is only a handful of actual participating members. except for the awards.
I don't know about Florida but I have not had a single Musician come into my Studio in 3 years who has ever even heard of JPF.
I have also never met anyone who knows about it around here unless it was at a JPF sponsored event.

Last two open Mic's I went to in Nashville no one had heard of it either. But they were not big events.
I also always ask if people know of Soundclick. I have only met a couple who have.

They all know about myspace tho.

I think many songwriters and local musicians don't bother with the internet.

If even one out of a 20 knew about JPF I'd be surprised. So
I'd venture to say you are off by at least twenty fold.
JPF is only a fraction of the actual songwriters out there.


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#571618 - 01/01/08 01:39 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Bill Robinson]  
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Originally Posted by Bill Robinson
One

And I think that guess is just about as close as any other.


grin I was gonna say 2!

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#571627 - 01/01/08 02:24 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Kenny Chaffin]  
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Not enough songs. You guys get on it on! grin


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#571632 - 01/01/08 02:38 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Kenny Chaffin]  
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I'd say about 1 in 1000 of the population actively tries in some way to write songs - so if there are about 6 billion people in the world, that's maybe 6 million people who might actually try to compose something. They will each write somewhere between 1 and 50 songs in some form - so an average of 25 and half songs each. That adds up to 153 million songs.

Obviously I can't guarantee these figures are accurate. smile

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#571664 - 01/01/08 04:24 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Dan Tindall]  
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Dan's the winner! 153 million!

How do I know this? 153 is one of my personal numbers, Jan,'53 (1-53) And since I asked the question, I get to pick the winner as I see it. smile

Done,,,thanks! Now I can think about other stuff.

Love all the answers! Creative, as I expected.

Thanks for playing. Dan wins the opportunity to write one more song than the average per songwriter for this new year. Congrats Dan, and make it a good one!

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#571670 - 01/01/08 04:55 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Johnny Daubert]  
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Splendid! smile

The last thing I won was 3rd place in a Road Safety competition. I got a small packet of felt tipped pens. As I was only 8 years old, this seemed quite a bounty. The pens have, of course, long since dried up - so the opportunity to write 26.5 songs this year is a long overdue windfall! smile

Dan smile

#571738 - 01/01/08 11:12 PM Re: HOW MANY SONGS????? [Re: Dan Tindall]  
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Good one Dan!


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I read somewhere that there are two million songwriters in the US alone, about one percent make their living at it and about five percent make some money from it.


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