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Okay nightshift and Tom-- I'll put it back.

http://www.rwkresiak.com/music/arrow_of_time.mp3

Thanks everyone!! Here's the lyrics:



Lifeline of creatures from the past
hidden in the mists of time
locked so deep in miles of rock
written in cryptic voice or rhyme

Buried in a tomb called earth
voices cry to be set free
for those of us with the minds that see
the past will live again today
live again today

A man with his hands on the years gone by
and a man with a wizards's mind
shout their defiance to the sun and the moon
and reach for the arrow of time

A savage world of blood and pain
is the trail of death out of the past
If I could only find a way
not much longer would it last

The river, time-- it flows one course
never to be changed
The price for moving the hands of time
is a price no man would want to pay
Wouldn't want to pay

Nice full sound on the production.Vocals were well done.

Thank you Michael, I appreciate the response. But I'm gonna pull the song. I just don't think our music style will be understood or appreciated here. Bad move on my part. Sorry 'bout that, guys.

Hey Gina,

Hope we haven't chased you away. We don't bite, well, only sometimes, and only banjo players

All genres are appreciated and welcomed. Even if it's not someones style, we all appreciate diversity. Try it again, you may be surprised.

cheers, niteshift

Hey,

Put it back up...there are no genre police out here...

Ahh, gee thanks, you guys. I chased myself away. I guess it's because I started listening to alot of tunes by the musicians here, and it's so overwhelmingly country-oriented. Or maybe that's just the ones I ended up choosing, kinda by accident. Not sure. I felt stupid, but didn't give myself time.
I'll post a couple tunes, (whispering...)in the same genre (no police around, I hope?). Just trying to get a feel from the listening audience, although I do appreciate musician's input, indeed. I would really just like to get to know the folks here better, develop some friendships and working relationships. A very good friend of mine and fine musician in his own right, John Daubert, suggested that this was the place to come. Thank you for your assurance-- it helped alot. I will also be sure to listen and review some of the others here. I would like very much to become an active member, as long as Rock is tolerated, and people keep an open mind-- ie, review and be reviewed.

Anyroad, I'd love the comments. This is RwK-- one half of our songwriting team, and the song is created and performed entirely by him. I have a few backing vocals in some of his present songs. We are a Classic Rock/ Rock/ Blues Rock group. Perhaps my song contributions will come next, but my lyric/ musical/ vocal style is different from Rick's. Don't know how to mesh them yet, or even IF.

Thanks again, nightshift and Tom!!

Gina,

Love "arrow of time" cool guitar work...keys...maybe would like to hear the vocals just a tad more up front...

"Distant Light" more great guitar...

Would like to hear yours. Didn't see the the link for "Yer Blues"...

Be best to post them one at a time every so often and include lyrics...as a lot of people like to follow along...

Good music...are you doing back-up vocals on Ricks?

click on my soundclick link and have a listen to a couple...not too country although I like all kinds of music...

Welcome to JPF, John is a cool guy...

tom

Oh, yeah, I guess I got too excited and put up too many. Sorry <giggle>. I took the others out. Lemme get the lyrics for Arrow Of Time... I'm not doing backing vocals on this song yet. In the works is a third harmony vocal for spot dynamics. That'll be me.

PS: Yer Blues is a cover tune-- Beatles, from the White Album. The pic is me performing it live, inside a big white bag (BAGISM-- John and Yoko's concept).

Gina V....Couldn't get this to play here at work....will try at home later....John D is a good guy....put your songs up no matter what genre....nice folks on here....they'll tell you in a nice way what they think one way or another....everyone on here is just trying to get better....constuctive criticism is always the best way to go.....I have found that you can always find at least something good to build on from any song you hear, no matter what....always try to support the other artists as much as possible by listening to their tunes....that helps you get more replies.......I see you are doing that....that's great...thanks for listening to mine....check you later...t-bob

Gina V: Good stuff, with a fine guitar part. Might need a little stronger "hook". Most of the folks here are country/christian since that's the market that seems to accept outside writers. However, there is still a lot of variety around -- and you contribute to that.


Kevin

Yes, there are a majority of Country and Christian music writers and performers here, which is why I thought maybe this site was wrong for us. I still don't know. We don't really so much seek the "How to's," as we do the "How do you like it's". RwK has been writing and producing his music for over 30 years. We're rockers-- and that won't change. So if the good people here don't really rock, it may be a moot point.

I do enjoy listening to the creations of the others here, though. And I really like how the constructive crit comes out, but all said very respectfully and with encouragement.

I'm not about the open market, so I won't sacrifice my genre and style for the possibility of selling a song-- ain't interested. I'm a live performer-- and I love the enjoyment, excitement and interaction of our audiences. We play for the love of music, and for peace and love amoung people. I don't mean any disrespect to the people here on this site. There's a load of talent here, and that's evident. But my reason for being here was to establish some friendships, and be able to bounce things off eachother. I haven't given it very much time yet, and I really like the people I'm meeting. Just don't seem to have much in common, and I don't want to bore or abuse anyones kindness.

So, what do YOU think?

GinaV....Don't know why you pulled this one down....damn good..imho...wonderful production....late 60's sound....very good vocal and music is also very good....great guitar work....enjoyed it....sounds good to me.....t-bob

Hey Gina:

I listened to this the other night but it was gone when I came back to comment. Glad it's back.

Love the music!

I get the big picture of what it's about but can't wrap my mind around the specifics. No matter - you can get away with that in Rock

Cool song!

Scott

Thank you, Bob-- kind of you to comment. I only pulled it down earlier because I didn't think that the folks on this site could "get into" hearing this style of classic rock, cause as I am listening to others, I'm not catching any other of this genre. I guess I just assumed that maybe it hurt everyone's ears or somethin'.

On that song, I'll be adding a third harmony in some spots, for dynamics. Possibly changing the drum track to live drums, and filling out the hollow areas of the SG leads. A friend of mine suggested also maybe adding a clock or a bell to the ending someplace.

This song gives me the feeling of Blue Oyster Cult stuff. But yes, early Rock is what we shoot for. Lotsa baby boomers out there that miss this kinda stuff, I guess. Well, we're two of them-- RwK and myself. That's why we love it, and perform it. Thank you for the comment, my friend. I'll be getting to some more of your stuff too, later.

Rwk and Gina V

Oooo-- just listen to some of Tom Bresher's blues. Nice!! I was playing it here at work, and one of my lady coworkers made a comment, "Now that's what I like". Then a harmonica part came on, and she really dug it! Yeah, she's a blues gal. I showed her the pic of you (that IS you, isn't it?, and she liked it even more <giggle>.

Anyroad, I like your playing-- can feel it between my shoulder blades and goin' down my spine. Don't know what that means, except I like the feeling. Very cool, Tom. Can't get to soundclick at work (stoopid firewalls and such,) but I got on the other site. I'll get to soundclick from home.

"Able to forget"
by the_lyricwriter

Gina,,,,,think you were not replied to fast enough? That song and it's writer/performer had NO replies, and I just got that post on the last page here, which has been up since 2001! Six years and no reply. But that person marched on. There are MANY on these boards that have not received one reply. But if you look at the page views, it can be in the hundreds. Some enjoy, as they just might listen and take it for what is it. Others may not have anything to say, one way or another.

There are over a hundred countries with JPF members. All kinds of styles and people. Many do not post however, but may just enjoy a listen now and then. You never know might have enjoyed, or not. Either way, it's a give and take thing too. (Assist others were you can). But a week or so is not time at all to judge most things this massive, (all the forums and a chance to get to know some folks).

The awards show gives attention to many genres. The boards is a small part of JPF. Many things to read and take advantaged of.

I have received excellent advice from Country writers and others, although for the most part, my songs are not Country. Musicians are music lovers and know music as music. Good to be open to all musician's opinions, even if it takes time to get them. It helped me, for sure.

Look at the awards page sometime, and see the amount of genres. There's more here of rock and others than you think. Just that the regulars on the boards are some of who you have listened to. But it's the tip of the iceberg!

It's like entering NY City, and thinking the one street outside the train station is all there is.

Remember,,,,there are over 70,000 members. Lots of folks, lots to do, lots to learn in all areas of music, vocals, studio, ect. Check out all the boards here and take about two months for it all to sink in. Showcases, info, awards show, networking, helping others that might need what you can bring to their experience. It is not just about you, me or them. It is about what all of us can do for others. Maybe you could be helping some others with lyrics or something, on the lyric's page,,,or anything..(with all the forums there are.

Relax,,,no need to over think anything for here,,,as this is like a good club you can always come to,,,,even if once a week to see how things are going with what you posted.....NO need to be going by minute to minute and see who posted or not. You'll drive yourself nuts!

Interesting song and sound,,,,,involved vocals.

But what is it you would like reviewed about this song? Some post songs to have them worked on more. Without giving people a direction to reply with, many will listen and either enjoy, or not, but won't know what to focus on for any critique.

Have FUN!

John

Glad to see the song back! I checked it out before it disappeared the first time. Very nice.

Give JPF a chance! I think you’ll find a whole bunch of really honest and open musicians and songwriters,here, who are always willing to lend an ear or to help out. Genre’s are ill relevant. C-E-G is a “C” chord in country, pop, or rock.

Here it’s always about the music!

Thanks Gina,

That was very kind...yeah it's ugly ol me, don't know where the hat came from...can't find it anymore...Scott Campbell played the harp parts...there are a lot of co-labs on this board...By the way I love Blue Oyster Cult...

Members kinda pop in and out, and not everyone has a song working at the time, so click the links to their music, lots of rockin...Substudio, Iggy, and a whole lot more...hang with us...

tom

Geeeezzze, John-- no need to scold me. Dooood-- believe me, I understand all of your points. Give me a little credit, will yeh?

You gotta understand something here, bud. First of all, dadburn it, I DO listen to the others here-- I've BEEN doing it, from the start. I've posted responses to some of them-- haven't been a member that long. I understand and BELIEVE in the concept of people helping eachother out. You know me better than that. Don't paint me as a person who's only out to get reviews for myself. In fact, the song isn't even mine, and I haven't put my own work in it yet. I simply put it out there, not for critique, but as I said before, "How do you like it..?" I second guessed myself, because I don't believe that people heavily into other genres would appreciate it. I could be wrong about that. Understand that I come from a couple working websites that consist of heavy rockers-- young and old, and I'm used to different reactions. They view the song from a different standpoint, but that's not to say that I couldn't get good info from some of the musicians and writers here. I'm not that shallow, man.

Now, I may be guilty here, of not explaining to the folks exactly what I want them to comment on-- but I don't know that answer. I just made it clear that I don't want lessons. And so far, everyone has been very cool, and I'm trying to make some friends and commrads, and open my mind up to others and their music, too. I know that takes time, and that's what I'm working on. Now, if I need vocal crit, or if I have questions, Yeah-- I'll go to that forum and seek advice, with a well-structured question that explains exactly what I'm lookin' for. Mmmmm....


You know what I love about you? You're sooo
wanting to help people, and you just go on and on and on. Might even be a little codependent, eh? (I'm JUST kidding-- everything you've ever said to me has been well-received, taken into consideration and logged into my experience bank). I'm still working on that tshirt, "It's good-- make it GREAT". With me, though, well... I'm aware of all these things you said. I just got a little anxious, like maybe my rock attitude would not be well-received here-- I didn't want to bother anyone.

As you well know, the anatomy of a rocker is very different from the rest. For example, there's a bit more arrogance and a "set in my ways" kinda feeling. Kinda comes from the movements of the 60's and 70's, and all the crap we went through to be able to express ourselves, amidst a bunch of parents and other stereo types of people who told us our ways were wrong. It was a time of revolt, you lived it, too. The world revolution doesn't mean that the cause was wrong, nor did it have to be violent or vile.

Now, getting a little more specific to rock music, here's a case in point. Someone here talked about the lyrics in Arrow-- said he gets the gist of it, but didn't understand the specifics. He said, "But you can get away with that in Rock...." <giggle> How true-- how true. Alot of it has personal meaning, but it is obscured in symbolism-- a sign of the times. Meant perhaps, to evoke one's own interpretation, and allow them to make that song a meaning of their own-- for them.

Let's talk about vocals. Damn the torpedos. Throw out most of the laws of vocal instruction. Yes, if there's some specific thing you want to accomplish, there's a way to do it. Changing tones to fit the music/feeling of the song, etc. But I think you'll agree that some of the hottest rockers out there have some really bad vocal habits. They give character to their music. Bob Dylan, Neil Young and the like-- can't sing a note to save their lives... in the book of a trained vocalist, that is. Pavarotti would roll over in his grave! But do people love them-- hell yes they do. It's about character. They're full of character-- along with being full of a few other things. Do they care? No, not really. People enjoy them, and for the most part, they make alot of money.

Personally, I have at least five different voices I use in my music. They all sound different, but I try to suit the song. I also like symbolism in my lyrics, all the way from a little to alot-- the Lennon influence, if you will. Now I KNOW you understand that, being a fellow Bagist. I also dig being so simplistic that it's absurd. Just depends. I have turned to people for a line or two, a word, mebbe... well, you know.
But you see, this can be largely misunderstood for arrogance. it's not arrogance-- it's ROCK music. That's why I feel more at home in a world of rock musicians. But I'm tring to gain some insight here, from people of different walks. Just gimme some time to adapt. I think I was doing okay, so please don't misunderstand my intentions. This is a cool site, and it works for alot of people. I respect all the musicians and songwriters here.

I AM relaxed Doc, this is as relaxed as it gets. I'm an artist of the 60's and 70's-- I need room to breathe and express. And see-- I can be pretty long-winded. Please excuse that bad habit of mine. Comes from being a writer and having the need to explain and express fully.

I love yeh, man-- and I love the banter between us. You're my kinda guy. Wouldn't change a thing. That's a rocker for yeh!!

Geen

Igster-- now, it's your turn. I'm cool here- no worries. I like the people here-- and I like the site. I don't have anything against writers and performers of country music. Sheeeshhh. Yes, it IS about the music. AND the people who create, perform and listen to it-- all inclusive.

I really appreciate you two guys (you 'n Johnny,) taking me under your wing here-- making sure I find a way to get comfy, and not misunderstanding things. I actually have no expectations, but to get the music out there and find some really cool friends. Mebbe I can lend a hand, once people learn more about me and what my strengths are. One of them is honesty. I don't hold in my feelings. I'm not mean or abrupt at all, but I don't hold poison inside me. If I'm upset or insecure, I will verbalize this. That's just me. And I don't tell people that stuff is good, if it ain't. I mean, isn't that counterproductive for a working site? I try to give them what they're asking for-- but I also won't be cruel or disrespectful. After all-- who am I? A person knows themselves what they want to accomplish with their song. I just inject a few observations when they ask. If they ask what they could do to improve something, I try to answer, if I know what they're looking for. It's up to them to tell me if I'm full of it-- I can take it. I listen to their music as a listener, not so much as a musician. Any musician can tell someone how they would do it differently, and that's cool too. But the listeners are the ones who pick and choose what they will listen to and buy. Musicians largely compete with eachother-- not so much by choice, but by default. They aren't the majority of the audience.

Tom, nightshift, t-bob, Roxy-- help me out here. I'm being misunderstood. Have I done something wrong, thusfar?

Reminds me of a commercial-- "Don't hate me because I'm beautiful" <giggle, hack, cough>. Only joshing yeh.

Peace ON.

Wow! somebody who can type as much as John...

Naw, nothing wrong...

"Oh Lord please don't let me be misunderstood"...eric

tom

Well said!

John,

See? I can brief!


Now,,,did I ever tell ya about the one that,,,,,,,,,,,,oops!