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by Gary E. Andrews - 04/15/24 07:08 PM
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This is an old system that goes way back to the big-band days... I use it with my rhythm section in a couple of ways..
sometimes we'll just be vamping between tunes..or maybe we'll be doing something without a chart and i can hear somebody hitting a wrong chord, or bass note or something...
just use your right hand(or left whatever you can free up) to indicate the note (or chord)(or the key you're about to do a tune in) 1 finger up is one sharp or G 2 fingers up is 2 sharps or D 3 fingers up is 3 sharps or A 4 fingers up is 4 sharps or E 5 fingers up is 5 sharps or B 6 fingers up is a job with the circus ! wait a minute..I'll get back to you on 6 sharps (F#) 1 finger down is one flat or F 2 fingers down is 2 flats or Bflat 3 fingers down is 3 flats or Eflat 4 fingers down is 4 flats or Aflat 5 fingers down is 5 flats or Dflat
F# and Gflat are the same note.. You indicate them by going one finger down(meaning F) then immediately do a thumbs up
C is just making a C shape with your thumb and first finger..
To indicate a minor chord..just give the appropriate finger sign followed quickly by the C shape only facing down (like a frowny face !)
Remember the most important sign of all !
That is the middle finger straight up ! This indicates that the bass player is staring at your wifes ass and if he continues to do it he must die !
If you're doing a tune and its getting good to you crossing the first and middle fingers means you're gonna repeat the bridge..
If you're vamping at the end of a tune a raised fist means this is the last time thru and we're going to the finish !
Now one thing.....
I'm from Chicago and this is how I learned these... The weird thing is that when we went to New York the first time we picked up a couple of jobbing horn players from New York City..and they said that the signals were exactly the opposite there...flats were up and sharps were down....makes no sense..but that's New York for you..I hear they put ketchup on their hot dogs there too !
this sounds tricky but with a little practice it works great..good way to commit key signatures to memory too..
Gotta be careful tho..if you get to doing them too fast some deaf person in the audience might come up and slap the [naughty word removed] out of you !
Bob Young
[This message has been edited by bob young (edited 08-20-2002).]
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Tommorrow morning this will hang in Maestro's Music Centre Esperance WA. Very interesting read Bob. When I did my riding Instructors Certificate Examinationa long time ago, The comments by the examiner on my report were. Mister henderson's pupils will never be board. You woulda got one like that if ya every did the course i bet Bob. Regards. Graham ------------------ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/grahamhenderson_music.htm
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Great post, Bob. I heard that they do it opposite in New York because the flat keys were far more common in the big bands (horns play easier in flat keys), the guitar (which plays easier in sharp keys) changed all that.
Sometimes here, if we're playing a song not every musician knows, we'll flash fingers for what we call the "off" chords, any chord other than the tonic, subdominant or dominant (I, IV, V). If it were, for example, a mediant minor (iii minor), we flash three fingers down, down for minor up for major. But at the beginning of the song we use the standard system you outlined. Just another of our idiocyncracies, but we don't put ketchup on our hot dogs.
Did you hear about the deaf composer who tried to convince people to play his symphony? He plead the fifth.
You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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Hey Mike...
That's exactly what the horn players told us...
I did a show in St Louis with my rhythm section playing Crystal Gayle with the St Louis symphony for Southwestern Bell.
The conductor was real cheeky and after a few run-throughs I said " If you don't behave I'm gonna follow your beat !"
He was not amused !
Bob
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You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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LOL. These posts are funny. A whole lot of quips just rolled through my mind, but I wouldn't touch them with a ten foot …
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Jean,
You must mean the hand signal I give to players who are making a lot of mistakes. Sometimes they think I mean that I want them to play in G.
You've got to know your limitations. I don't know what your limitations are. I found out what mine were when I was twelve. I found out that there weren't too many limitations, if I did it my way. -Johnny Cash It's only music. -niteshift Mike Dunbar Music
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Unfortunately, the hand signals don't seem to get used much here in Baltimore...although I wish they were. Would make things much easier for those spur of the moment medleys!
Dave
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Hey Dbass..
Learn 'em and start using 'em...you and your guys will learn to love them I promise..
Alot of the jobbing guys in Chicago have "jam" bands that do alot of riffing around changes..they use the signals all the time to keep things loose...
It's a cool thing..
bob
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