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#377998 - 10/19/02 05:44 PM Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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Does anyone out there know where (preferably an on-line store) I can get a guitar strap like the one Willie Nelson uses (sorry, I don't know what the type is called)? I've looked around a bit and I can't find one. I find that the normal acoustic guitar straps that connect at the bottom and tie onto the the neck don't quite work for me, as they don't seem to come around the shoulder enough. His just hung straight down his chest, in back of his guitar, then came up around the front, and hooked into his sound hole.

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#377999 - 10/19/02 06:59 PM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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I believe that's a "strap" that's commonly used by Mariachi (spelling?) guitarists. Check out the various companies related to Latin and Hispanic guitar goodies. If it's what I think you're talking about, it hangs around your neck goes behind the guitar and comes up around the front and clips into the bottom of the soundhole. Willie, being a Texan, could have easily been introduced to that sort of strap from his Latino neighbors. You can probably make one with the minimal amount of $$ and effort. I'm sure that's what they did. Good Luck, TJ Sullivan
P.S. His old Martin can't weigh more than a few pounds, and most Mariachi dudes play real light gut string guitars which will work with those straps (if you want to call them straps) so consider the logisitics of your particular guitar and try it out. I've never used one but they seem to make sense to me. Let us know how you come out!


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#378000 - 10/19/02 08:28 PM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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Thanks for the tip, songman!

I recently saw Willie perform, and not only did I hear top-notch guitar-playing, but I also checked out his strap and thought to myself, "That's what I need!" So it was like a two-fer.

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#378001 - 10/20/02 04:40 PM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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Here is a link to a site that carries them. To find more use the Google.com search engine and enter classical guitar straps.

http://www.dandreapicks.com/straps.htm

I used to use one of those when I played my classical. They are kind of a pain really and put a lot of pressure on your neck. You have to be extra careful to hold onto it with your forearm so it won't flip forward. You should be able to find it anywhere they sell a lot of classical or flamenco guitars.

A lot of the newer guitars have a strap post screwed into the heel ( ?) of the neck where it joins the body of the guitar instead of being tied at head. Mine does and it's like the best of both worlds.
It hooks over the shoulder but comes forward more and both arms have more freedom to play.


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#378002 - 10/20/02 05:05 PM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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When I got my Martin D-18 refurbished a few years ago I need a strap. I didn't like the offering for straps I saw in catalogs so my wife went to the material/fabric store and bought 1" canvas material and placed a hole in one end and sealed it with basting tape and sewed velcro on the top end after I measured the length. I just stick the velco together and it works great. The canvas comes in different colors and is light enough to be comfortable.


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#378003 - 10/20/02 05:58 PM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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Yup, Jean's right. I used one once a long time ago and if you don't hold onto the guitar it can flip and drop. Not a good thing for the guitar. Any strap that ties to the neck puts some amount of strain on the neck itself. It's always best not to have a strap attached there, but more on the heel and tailblock.

#378004 - 10/21/02 05:40 PM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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Speaking of straps! My lovely wife just purchased an El Dorado strap for me. They're made by a fellow in Pasadena, Ca. and it's absolutely the most beautiful strap I've ever seen. Over the years I've had saddle and tack people make me straps, but this is the real deal. Check them out! Best Regards, TJ Sullivan


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#378005 - 10/24/02 11:58 AM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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I ended up ordering from Hairball Music and recently received my strap. It definitely gives me what I was looking for. Yes, as JeanB warned, it puts some strain on my neck (the player, not the instrument!), but I fully expected it to be a strap where your arms play an active role in the support along with the strap, and I think I can play around with posture and positioning to make it more comfortable and take some weight off my neck. It works for me.

As a bonus, it also solved another problem for me. For amplifying my steel-string acoustic, I don't like the sound of clip-in-the-soundhole pickups, so I got a transducer mic that affixes to the body and picks up the sound that way. It provides a lot more sound fidelity than a pickup, but it requires the use of a little dab of sticky stuff, which would eventually run out, plus it leaves residue on the body. Not good. But with a classical guitar strap, I can pin the transducer against the body with the strap coming up the front of the guitar, eliminating the need for the sticky stuff.

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#378006 - 10/24/02 03:35 PM Re: Willie Nelson's Guitar Strap  
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The pick up solution was very inventive.

The one thing I DID like about the strap was that you could adjust the angle of the guitar very easily because it can pivot on the hook. I am playing acoustic electric now but I still prefer holding it the classical guitar way. How rock n rollers play the guitars hanging down at hips is beyond me.

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