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This tune was created with the help of Scott Bush a JPF member, and a talented lyricist from Indiana.

I also would like to mention that Scott has been suffering from a stomach tumor for about three years in which time he has not had a solid meal and is fed through a tube directly into his stomach, which has recently been giving him much grief. All this at 28 years of age!

In the two years that we have been corresponding he has never complained about his condition and when he mentions his trips to the hospital where things seem to always go very wrong, he is always apologetic for having “put ME through it”!

I’m telling you this to give you an idea of the character of this caring, gentle, soul that is the power behind the lyrics.

It is an absolute pleasure knowing this incredible individual and I just wanted to share his story with you all.


JUST HOW LONG
© Music Martin Hayden, Lyrics Scott B. Bush


What I gave to you, I gave for nothing
I thought you'd be my everything

(Chorus)
Looking back I can see
What it all was meant to be
Now that the years have come and gone
And I'm wondering, just how long it's going to take

I remember the time we spent as lovers
Wrapped up in blankets
We watched a frozen world outside
And the snow falling down
And I remember the midnight train
The rumble of the wheels fading off into the distance
So long ago, I can still hear that sound

I won't cry for you forever
Some days I don't think of you at all

(Chorus)
Lookin back I see
What it all was meant to be
Now that the years have come and gone
And I'm wondering just how long it's going to take

(Bridge)
Sometimes winning
Is really not everything
And sometimes having everything
Means having nothing, nothing real, at all

As I re-build this life from nothin
I know, I've still got everything

(Chorus)
Lookin back I see
What it all was meant to be
And now the years have come and gone

And I'm wondering just how long
Just how long
I will cry for you
And I'm wondering
Just how long, just how long, just how long
I will cry for you
And I'm wondering
I won't cry for you
Just how long, it's going to take
I won't cry for you
And I'm wondering
Just how long it takes




[This message has been edited by Accelerator (edited 04-12-2006).]

Hi Accel,

Guess who's still up and listening?

Wow! Scott is incredible.. He has amazing strength
and his attitude is just incredible.
I hope & pray that he comes through all this okay.
Tell him we love his work & his courage.
And tell him for me personally he's an inspiration.
I do not have his problems but do have a physical problem in my life that causes me grief and total frustration. Recently I have given in and folded like a tent.. But lately i've been fighting back and after reading this I'm gonna fight harder.. Thank him for me! and thank you!

Okay the song is really pretty, reminds me of classic
70's like (Loggins & Messina) or Seals & Croft...

You guys did a great job..
I would like to hear the arrangement structure wise fooled with a bit.. just for ya know editing ideas chorus here..verse there stuff.. lyrics and melodies were cool..

Cool! Cool! Vocal. Your vocals are very versatile
you may have to sing one of my songs soon!

Thanks
Sub

Accel & Scott,

Just great writting, boy this one didn't fool around getting to the chorus. I love the way this builds. Scott, this pre-chorus line is wonderful:

"I won't cry for you forever
Some days I don't think of you at all"

Great vocals and playing.
I still hate Apple...it skips on the play through.

Just another great one from you guys!

tom



[This message has been edited by Tomtimeless (edited 03-28-2006).]

I thought the melody was very good. The words (syllables) or structure seem to vary in some of the verses, not consistent with each other. Especially just before going into the chorus. Good vocals.

Accel- Beautiful song. Really nice.

I hope and wish and pray your friend Scott will be ok.

Nice production all the way around. terribob

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Hey Accel:

Lovely song! Pass on my compliments to Scott.

I love listening to your tunes - feel I could give them 50 spins and still hear new things. And I feel such anticipation when your bridges get close - never know what I'm gonna hear but sure I'll think it's cool.

Nice one.

Scott

Great job guys... now the nits, It just seems to be in the wrong key, and I think lyrically it would be stronger starting off
"I thought you'd be my everything, what I gave to you I gave for nothing"

I thought you'd be my everything is really a super strong in your face kind of statement, would really start the song off great.

Keep or Sweep

Nice job guys. Love the vocal.

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www.jaybritton.com

Hey Sub,

When I woke up this morning I realized that after doing the usual ritual of getting ready for work that I had an extra 10 minutes to get out the door. So I checked to see if there were any posts and sure enough there you were, still up and doing what you do best, “keepin the drive alive!”

But that’s all nice and everything but dude, you’ve got to get some sleep, seriously. This sleep deprivation thing is got to be taking its toll on you if not now then definitely in the not to distant future. Treat your sleep like a GI Joe collection and adopt a healthy regimen and get into power napping and you will see unbelievable differences in your productivity levels not to mention the added benefits of unconscious suggestion. As you are falling asleep, think about that song or the project you are currently working on and the roadblocks that it is presenting. I guarantee that when you wake up rested, you will have a few possible answers. It’s amazing try it!

Thanks for the wonderful post; I’ve just emailed Scott to let him know the kind of support and positive feedback that we are getting and I’m sure it will brighten his days as it has mine!

I didn’t see the (Loggins & Messina) or Seals & Croft connection, but I can see how it would fall into that kind of genre.

I would love to sing on one of your songs! You would have to walk me through the process of doing it online as I have never done that before. I guess if you sent me a wave of the mix along with a set of lyrics and maybe a ghost vox track or something of that nature?

Thanks for your consideration.

I’ve got a bunch of stuff here that I’m waiting to see what happens. A lot of it is full production numbers without vocals probably because I haven’t come across the right ones yet.

Thanks for feeding “some speed to my drive” Bro!

Accel


[This message has been edited by Accelerator (edited 03-29-2006).]

Hey Tom,

Thanks so much for your support and appreciation.

It makes it all worthwhile!

Accel

Hey Johnny,

Thanks for the “plug”

And also thanks for “sparking” my curiosity in your statement “The words (syllables) or structure seem to vary in some of the verses, not consistent with each other. Especially just before going into the chorus.” I'll have to re-listen to it again to hear what you’ve mentioned here. Thanks in advance for pointing it out.

Thanks for the good vocal remark as I’ve heard yours and they are top notch!
I think the reverb takes away from the obvious quality of your voice and makes it sound dated and far away as opposed to up close and personal. Just one man's oppinion.


Thanks again for the advice it is much appreciated.

Accel

Hey Terribob,

Thanks man I know your sentiments are from the heart and are truly valued.

Now I’m off to listen to your new song for a second time because I’ve stopped fooling myself into thinking that I can actually hear it all in one take! If I’m going to “hear” a song, then I have to internalize it.

Talk to you later and thanks again.

Accel

Hey Scott, Louis and Jay,

Thanks for responding!

Unlike our good friend Sub, I have to get my winks 6am comes early. I’ll get back to you guys in this and your threads asap.

Thanks and good night!

Accel

Hey Scott,

Sorry to get back to you 24 hours later, but work, sleep and family seem to be the norm, especially during the week.

It pleases me to know that my bridges are having the intended effect on you.

I feel they should be as powerful or even more powerful than the song.

When I come to the part of creating a bridge that is where I buckle down and start to really work, because this is where I have to bring the song to a new level. I ask myself how can I make this part more interesting. I find the more effort I put into “building the bridge” the more of a “reprise” effect the rest of the song has when I return to either the third verse or chorus.

I look at it this way; even a Shakespearean tragedy has comedic relief!

Accel

Hey Louis,

I often create song in the wrong key not ever knowing it - even long after the song is completed!

I have musical friends that sing and play guitar and they always use a capo. Never singing outside of their comfort zone. That's cool it's their thing and there is nothing wrong with that.

But I don’t probably because I don’t want to consciously recognize the limitations of my voice.

If I did then it would probably sound the same all the time.

In this particular song I was singing out side of my comfort level when I sang, “I remember the time we spent as lovers wrapped up in blankets”. I feel it gives the vocals a more “honest” appeal in its fledgling attempt to produce the notes. Once again producing another dynamic.

I’m glad you pointed this out - otherwise I wouldn’t have made this connection!

Thank you Louis!


Accel

Thanks for the encouraging remarks Jay

Accel

Accel,
So after your kind response to my song, which I will acknowledge shortly, I said I better see how good this guy is.

Holey Mackeral, now your compliment means more than ever, this is such a quality song. This is serious stuff. And I can't believe this is a collaboration. It is so tight musically it is like one of those happy coincedences where the words and music come together.

And melodically that second movement after the first chorus "I remember" etc. is so good and professional. I have no idea how you got there melodically but it is so nice.

The highest compliment that I can pay this is to say that there are about five different times in this song where I said "I want to write something like that".

And you a graphic designer too (that explains the cool logo). I manufacture packaging and I work with graphic designers now and again.

Anyway sorry I missed this before.
Tom

Hi Accel--JF here!--the stream is breaking alot
so Ill DL & report back-from what Ive heard
sounds like a pop-rocker hit-nice job!

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johnfindlaymusic.com

DL'd this tune-sweet tune -great job-lead vox & harmonies are great too!

I thought it filled out great towards the end
with the electric....I kinda was wanting to hear more fill in the mid range sonic area of the mix-

if the drums sounds were a bit bigger that might do the trick-

or more mids in the acoustic-so just a mix nit!

Soon you shall have sounds in abundance!

Talk soon.

JF

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johnfindlaymusic.com

"I often create song in the wrong key not ever knowing it - even long after the song is completed!"

I do the same thing

Hey John,

Yes I totally agree. I was putting the final mastering effects on the song when I noticed that the drums were indeed in the back of the mix. At that point I justified it in my own mind by saying to myself that James Taylor and Dan Hill had the same effect and I think by doing that intentionally (which was not the case here) I think forces the songs melody and story to take a front seat and carry the weight making it more of the “singer/songwriter” type of sound.

How’s that for making excuses trying to cover my tracks?

Thanks for noticing and for the positive feed

Accel

Hey Louis,

It’s comforting to know that I’m not the only one who’ll create a whole song in the wrong key, but make it work.

Outside the comfort zone.

Accel

My heart goes out to Scott. Incredible guy for sure. May he get better soon.

I think the part listed as the chorus sounds more like a buildup for a chorus. (pre chorus as it sounds now). BUT, the song does have a certain GOOD flow as is. Not sure if I would change it. Probably not right away as a knee jerk reaction I usually have to edit or create other sections. This does have it's own good feel. Just thought I'd mention my first reaction to the chorus.

Real good vibe, sentiment, and playing/vocal.
Sounds like a film scene song. (When a guy is on a bus after giving a concert, and he is over the excitment of the show, having others on the bus still laughing, playing cards, etc. But he is staring out the window at night seeing his reflection and sees in his eyes his loneliness.

That how good this song is as is. Inspired me to imagine that right now. Good for YOU!
Congrats! And please tell Scott he is one hell of a lyricists. And better yet, a person.

John Daubert

[This message has been edited by dhsongs (edited 04-05-2006).]

Id like to hear it on a descent system-
but going with what you said -style/mix-then
maybe more acoustic guitar + mid?

JF

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johnfindlaymusic.com

Thanks John D

I have told Scott that he is in our prayers and that we are getting incredible feedback on the tunage!

Wow, you have one hell of an imagination!

“When a guy is on a bus after giving a concert, and he is over the excitement of the show, having others on the bus still laughing, playing cards, etc. But he is staring out the window at night seeing his reflection and sees in his eyes his loneliness.”

I remember feeling that way myself a few times when you’re looking out the window and suddenly you see your own eyes looking at themselves and suddenly realize how lonely you really are - almost like the “alone in the crowd” feeling.

OOOooooo too, too much!

I love the eeriness of it when it is actually put into words! That was very cool!

I will tell him again and urge him to read these threads, but lately he has been having some health problems as his correspondence is not as timely as usual which of course he apologizes for (can you believe it?).

The last I talked to him by email about four days ago and he said:

“I was in the hospital from last Friday until Wed this past week with low potassium levels and high carbon dioxide. I have gone for blood work 3 times since and my weight is down, so I have been slow to do much of anything. I am glad there is some interest in the music”

So as soon as he is able I’m sure he’ll get around to it!

The best compliment you can give a person is about the spirit of the person and you did that and I thank you for that John D!

Accel

Hey John F.

Yes I think the mids should definitely come up in the acoustic.

Thank you seriously for the advice.

You know you get going on something and in this case the first tracks to be laid was on the acoustic and before you know it, you're recording the bass or keys and because it was the first you forget about it and get lost in music land.

Thanks for the breadcrumbs!

A good set of ears are invaluable.

Accel

Accel,
It's clear you are equal company to Scott. He has a good friend in you. That is very cool! Keep that going as well as your music.

Thanks for the nice words on that little scene. But it was the music/lyrics that led to it. Inspiration makes it easy to create. So thank you! Feels good to create, anything, anytime.

Hi Scott!

John D.