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by Gary E. Andrews - 04/15/24 07:08 PM
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by Gary E. Andrews - 04/05/24 01:49 PM
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Hi I'm new. I've been trying to find someone to sell my lyrics to for a long time. I'm really young but I would love to hear my lyrics on someone's songs. The money doesnt matter that much (just give me credit). I was wondering if any singers (or anyone) was interested in reading my lyrics.
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This is a good place to start for getting your lyrics reviewed. There are 3 lyric boards on this site. Lyric board 3 is more accepting/forgiving of flaws in the lyrics, lyric board 1 can be rough and harsh at times, but you can get genuainly talented people to review your work and you can learn a lot from your mistakes.
Getting someone to put music to your songs is a very hard task. Lyric writers outnumber melody writers about 10 to 1. Hit songs that were caried onto the charts by the tune outnumber hit songs carried by their lyrics 10 to 1. But there are a few musicians that will admit they can't write lyrics, and if your really good, there are a few more that will admit that your lyrics add enough to make it worth replacing their lyrics. It's a tough road, but one worth traveling.
Some lyricists have decided it was just easier to learn enough music to write their own melodies. Good luck and don't give up.
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Thank you very much for taking the time to write what you did. I learned something new from you. Checking out this site, there's a lot of nice people who will give you postive feedback so I will do what you say. Thanks again and much love
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It's Easy,,,, Just do what Bernie Taupin did and meet an Elton John! (They actually meet by a set of weird and timely circumstances). Elton felt compelled to do certain things which had him run into Taupin. So, if something like that is meant to be for anybody, it will!
Besides that, write often and read about everything all the time. Be a watcher of people and events when out, or watching TV. All info can be tossed around your creative brain and be used in some way or another in songs, either soon or later.
Would be good to get with a good piano/guitar songwriter. Both is good, for the different ways songs can be written. Chemistry is important. You'll have a great feeling when a great team is being formed.
All the best to you! John Daubert (Have had the same lyricists with me for the past 28 years). I do a lot on my own now, but it was because of Buddy's influence and teachings. Maybe you can so that for some paino/guitar player too!
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I may have painted too bleak a picture with my earlier post. Especially the 10 to 1 ratio of songs made by the lyrics vs songs made a hit by the tune. I may be close to right on rock n roll and maybe pop songs. But I completely forgot country music where lyrics are VERY important. I was probably also a bit off on the ratio of lyric writers verses melody writers. The ratio of Great lyric writers to Great melody writers is probably much more even. The goal is to be one of the greats.
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Hi,
I have two suggestions for you. As mentioned before, post your lyrics! Everywhere!! Spread them all over like fertilizer and there is a chance that they will sing to a composer. Join as many songwriting boards as you can find and participate in them. The worst that will happen is you"ll develop new friendships.
My second piece of advice is learn to play an instrument. Piano or guitar would be a great start. You can get a keyboard for a reasonable price and create your own music.
Good Luck. Start posting your lyrics!!
Diane
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Thanks guys for the advice. ...so helpful
I own a keyboard and I still don't know how to play it
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I agree with Diane.
Since you stated your young go take some guitar or piano lessons.
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yeah I could take lessons but too bad I can't sing
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Welcome Newcomer:
Don't be discouraged about the competition thing. Write first to please yourself. Write about things you know and understand. Write from the heart.
You may be surprised about your voice. Try just singing one of your lyrics to yourself. Practice, practice and then practice some more. Consider learning to play just chords on a guitar or possibly a baritone Ukelele.
If money is of no object, acquire an arranger keyboard and learn to play chords on it. It will provide accompaniment. If it is a really good arranger keyboard, it will also allow you to sing and it will harmonize with your voice with backup singers of your choice. We live in a wonderful age of available musical technology.
Good luck and best wishes,
Dave Rice
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Never give up! Never Give up! NO MATTER WHAT.!!! I'm a songwriter who can't play an instrument either [or is it iether? Aww you say potato, i'll say potahto]. I have a Casio. That's right, i said it; a CTK-811 CA..SI..OO to be exact!! When i recorded my first CD in 2003, i knew nothing about music, Now here it is three years later, and i know even less! I know there's a C note on the keyboard somewhere! I have been writing song lyrics for years. I was so excited when a seasoned entertainer i had just met [who plays some keyboard] heard 3 songs i sang a ccapella into a tape cassette recorder. He suggested i make a CD. So we did. It was very challenging. Do you know how many rewrites i did on certain verses and the number of takes i needed just for one song? Course not, you weren't there. Anyway, I LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT!! Now here's the kicker, about 3 weeks ago after playing a few tracks from my new CD, for an ex-coworker and acquaintance, who is a drummer for a jazz band, told me a Casio is a cheap way to make music. Huh? Wha.? Talk about being deflated. But that was my mistake. I shouldn't have played one song for him because he made less than flattering comments about my first CD. 'Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it'. In fact i've heard or read a number of negative comments about using rhythm tracks.
Well, i'm a 51 year old guy who just lost my job of 14 years because of a back disability. I went from making, at times, over &50,000 a year to under 16 grand in a blink of an eye it seems. I won't give up though. I am going to continue to write songs using my CA..SI..OO. And if that gives out, i'll beat out a rhythm on a pickle barrell if i have to. Be my keyboard cheesy, cheap or primitive, it's mine and all i have to work with, for now. I can play a few chords. I may not know music, but i know how to express the innermost feelings of my heart and soul in words. On my last CD, i didn't play nary a note. However on this current one, i not only played [with one hand tied in front of my back mind you] chords on every song, i did all of the background vocals as well.
I started on this CD last year around March when i went out on disability from my job and am just finishing it up now. I have no money for a band nor do i have collaborators at the present time, but i ain't quittin'; and don't you quit either romerobrook. So until God blesses me with money for a band or a quality demo, it will be "Me And My Shadow" or should i say "Me And My Cheap, Cheesy, Primitive, Amateurish CA...SI..OO"!!! Never Give Up!! Never Give Up NO..MATTER...WHAT!!!
NATE "BOOMER
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you go nateboomer - that's the spirit!! romero, you've been given good advice, and I'll add one more - you say you can't sing. Well, everybody can sing. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. I have many songwriters in my voice studio and, with time and practice, they all grow more confident & develop their voices. IMO a lyricist who wants to make it 'big' needs to either collaborate with excellent musicans, and/or learn to play an instrument, write notation (so easy), and spent time experimenting on writing melodies. One of my friends can't write down his music, nor can he play an instrument, but he can sing his song into a recorder & give it to a musican, who will write out the chord progression. Even if you don't feel capable of writing a melody, I would encourage you to research & read about what makes a melody great... so that you will be listening with educated ears. Hummin'bird ------------------ Vikki Flawith, Canadian Singer/Songwriter & Voice Teacher This bird sings at: http://www.soundclick.com/vikkiflawith www.vikkiflawith.com Vikki on MySpace Hummingbird's Wise Bird's Blog The Shy Singer-Songwriter's Blog The Shy Singer-Songwriter's Newsletter
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Nate (or should I say Boomer?):
Don't ever let anybody give you that stuff about a "Cheesy Keyboard." Of course it's an inexpensive way to make music. Thats why we purchased them. If we were wealthy, we could afford to hire an orchestra.
I'm not familiar with your particular model of Casio but it really does not matter. If you have talent and tenacity you will eventually succeed.
If you have an arranger type keyboard, even better. Depending on the genre you are working in, try to simplify the instruments down to around four, including rhythm/drums. Turn down the volume on your "board" and increase the volume for your vocal.
Best wishes from a "Yammie" boarder.
Dave Rice
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