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by Gary E. Andrews. 02/28/21 08:04 AM
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Don't Go
by Gary E. Andrews. 02/28/21 08:00 AM
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#1172382 - 12/12/20 06:08 AM
IF ONLY. (DEEJ & TRAVIS COLLAB)
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This is a re- recording of the song which Dave sent to me today. The initial take sounded distant, this new recording is far better we think.. The story came about during our months of lockdown in the UK. This was potentially the aftermath. Please have a listen: John https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14158266IF ONLY All the streets were bare— the silence filled the air, as I walked through the places you and I once knew. And you were everywhere . . . A ghost under the lights that lined these roads, and dark apartments, row by row. If I could only walk with you hand in hand again, by a river, by a stream, in a park, not just a dream. If I could only be with you on some warm summer night drinking wine and dancing to the rhythm of life— How good it would be just you and me , , , If only. What's Armaggeddon? The road they say we’re heading down to the end, with no cure for our suffering. I'd risk it all to hold you tight, to have you by my side tonight— anything it takes I’d sacrifice. (C) And the churches in defiance, from the altars old hymns play. And they float upon the desperate wind then the echoes fade away. And they all hold as much promise as the helpless words they pray— If they ever see the light of day, who’ll listen anyway? I reached home like before . . . I didn’t even lock my door— there’s nobody out there, and I’m past the point that I care. So I’m sitting here needing you and there’s not a damn thing I can do— You’re too far away— I’m stuck here and you’re too far away . . . C (C) DAVID LEKICH AND JOHN VAUGHAN
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
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#1172419 - 12/13/20 01:59 AM
Re: IF ONLY. (DEEJ & TRAVIS COLLAB)
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Hi Mike Alpreciate your suggestions and comments. The walk to the chorus is only one verse albeit a fairly long stroll.. I suppose the content of the song in a way denies it being uplifting but it's something Dave and I can look into I'm sure.. On the good side you liked the song over-all, that's good too Thanks for your feedback Regards John
Last edited by Travis david; 12/13/20 01:59 AM.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
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#1172455 - 12/15/20 12:08 PM
Re: IF ONLY. (DEEJ & TRAVIS COLLAB)
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Hey John,
Reading your remarks to Vic, I do get a little better perspective on your "Armegeddon" line. So let me elaborate a bit. I like the idea now that I'm getting the song's meaning a bit better. My sug might be to phrase it somehow more like: "Like Armegeddon" etc. In this way, the analogy seems clear quickly, whereas in question form at that juncture, more disconcerting--at least with my initial reaction. I'm not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill either, just you know me, I do enjoy being helpful with my opinion, but never in the manner that I'm necessarily right..........
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#1172468 - 12/16/20 04:17 AM
Re: IF ONLY. (DEEJ & TRAVIS COLLAB)
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I suppose Ed that Armageddon could also be used in the event of something happening far more devistating than just a few months lockdown. The bridge suggests this and the last verse is about the guy heading for home. He didn't even bother locking his door as there's hardly anyone left apart from a few people who have taken refuge or solace in a church? Perhaps this could add more weight to Armageddon? Cheers Ed
And the churches in defiance, from the altars old hymns play. And they float upon the desperate wind then the echoes fade away. And they all hold as much promise as the helpless words they pray— If they ever see the light of day, who’ll listen anyway?
I reached home like before . . . I didn’t even lock my door— there’s nobody out there, and I’m past the point that I care. So I’m sitting here needing you and there’s not a damn thing I can do— You’re too far away— I’m stuck here and you’re too far away . . .
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#1172478 - 12/16/20 11:32 AM
Re: IF ONLY. (DEEJ & TRAVIS COLLAB)
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John,
You write wonderful pros. I don't usually delve into critiquing lyrics as one has to listen several times, especially when you are looking at more poetic lyrics. I went back and listened to this song a couple more times--and I really do like it. But I went back to focus on what/why that (Bridge-Armageddon line) seems disconcerting......What I feel is happening is more of a music structural flow than a lyric issue--JMO. The C launches in a nice fashion following the 1st verse, almost like a PC that flows smoothly into the C--I like this. Once the C resolves however with "If Only," along with the following music pause, the "Armageddon line," feels like a new V is beginning to launch, rather than a Bridge digressing--then that Bridge launches like another C. Now everything is performed very well and it sounds swell, but structurally I think the two could be conformed into one C, but some trimming might be required else the C would be too long. Or........if the C can be tightened up, one idea would be to move the "I'd risk it all" line before the "If only" line allowing the C to have the more dramatic launch musically. Then re-work the Bridge, but put a short music interlude between C & B to allow Bridge better identity.
A lot of great things going on, but IMO the song needs some structural tweaks to be more seamless. Again, great job with this melody Deej! People will not get the lyrics on the first listen from a radio perspective, but will after a couple of listens--the music is very good, but the middle of the song needs tightening IMO.
steady-eddie
Last edited by E Swartz; 12/16/20 01:24 PM.
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#1173611 - 01/28/21 08:20 PM
Re: IF ONLY. (DEEJ & TRAVIS COLLAB)
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I would hope when people are listening to this song that they really pay attention to the words. It is pure gold.
It doesn't get any better than
And the churches in defiance, from the altars old hymns play. And they float upon the desperate wind then the echoes fade away. And they all hold as much promise as the helpless words they pray— If they ever see the light of day, who’ll listen anyway?
Your imagery is second to none.
To me I also want to get a feeling from a song and you have done that so well. Great production
Steve
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#1174022 - 02/15/21 11:31 AM
Re: IF ONLY. (DEEJ & TRAVIS COLLAB)
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VNORTH2
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Thanks Steve good to know you found those words so good A joint effort by Dave and I Regards John I love it when you know someone has actually chosen their words carefully. I'm so tired of lyrics that seem to be "cut and paste"or full of overused metaphors and cliches. Steve
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