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#1171356 - 11/20/20 01:48 PM
Winter Night ( Rewrite 2)
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WINTER NIGHT. V The gardens blanket glitters silver and white Jack Frost's dance captures it in the moonlight. Our arms wound around each other so tight we shiver, but we laugh, on this cold winters night. V Draw the curtains lets close the doors firewoods crackling demanding we put on more Warm up, rubbing her frozen fingers that's turned white lost in her deep brown eyes, on this cold winter's night
B We sit here drinking mulled wine my love for her overpowers me No not a dream, she is really mine
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V So happy for this love that we've found we trod carefully at first, our loves the second time around As the last embers die, and it approaches daylight isn't anyone in the world, I'd share another Winters night .
OUTRO Love for her so strong, now so impossible to deny
------------------------------------------- WiNTER NIGHT. V The gardens blanket glittered silver and white Jack Frost's dance,was captured in the moonlight. With our arms wound around each other so tight we shivered, but how we laughed, on that cold winters night. V Drew the curtains soon as we closed the door firewood crackled, demanding I put on some more Warmed up, rubbed her frozen fingers that'd turned white lost in her deep brown eyes, on a cold winter's night
B We sat there drinking mulled wine my love for her overpowered me No dream she's really mine
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V So happy for this love that we'd found treading carefully first for this second time around As the last embers died, and it approached daylight nobody in this world that I'd longed to spend- that winter night .
OUTRO Love for her so strong, now so impossible to deny
Last edited by Travis david; 11/21/20 05:15 AM.
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
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#1171384 - 11/20/20 10:55 PM
Re: Winter Night ( Rewrite)
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Gary E. Andrews
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Travis, this sounds too intimate for the Singer-Character to be telling the audience about 'her'. I think he should be talking directly to her. And for that reason it should be more present tense, instead of past tense.
"THIS COLD WINTER'S NIGHT" Verse I The garden's blanket glitters silver and white Jack Frost's dance, is captured in moonlight. With our arms wound around each other so tight we shiver, but how we laugh, on This Cold Winter's Night. Verse II We draw the curtains soon as we close the door (The pronoun 'we' is the 'actors' to do the 'action' of the verb.) firewood crackles, demanding I put on some more Warmed up, I rub your frozen fingers that have turned white I'm lost in, your deep brown eyes, on This Cold Winter's Night
Bridge my love for you overpowers me We sit here drinking mulled wine It's not just a dream You're really mine
MUSIC (I've seen this notated as "Instrumental Interlude". I think it serves the function of a Bridge, an Instrumental Bridge.)
Verse III I'm so happy for this love that we've found treading carefully for our second time around As the last embers die, it's approaching daylight there's no one in this world I'd rather spend- This Cold Winter's Night .
OUTRO (The final Musical Movement of a composition can be designated as a 'Coda'. There's actually not a word like 'Introduction' reduced to INTRO, like outroduction, and OUTRO.)
Love for you so strong, now so impossible to deny on This Cold Winter's Night. This Cold Winter's Night. This Cold Winter's Night.
There will always be another song to be written. Someone will write it. Why not you? www.garyeandrews.com
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#1171655 - 11/25/20 08:26 PM
Re: Winter Night ( Rewrite)
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I call those times when I haven't written in a while 'fallow' periods, like a field the farmer doesn't plant one year, letting the grass and weeds grow, fixing nitrogen in the soil, so it will be ready for a crop again in the second year. I often write long, wordy Songs coming out of the fallow period, just enjoying wordplay, letting the story go where it needs to go to find THE Hook, and a satisfactory denouement. They may be too long for radio, more Singer-Song-Writer style than singalong pop hit, but they serve a function. Ideally though, if you want other people to sing your Songs, they need to be short, short Lines, in prosody with interesting Melody, tempo, percussive vocalization, on the beat, memorable, memorizable, singable. Sometimes you'll hear a singer rushing to get all the words into a space, or altering the natural accented syllables of a word to match up to a Rhythm dictated by that Line in other Verses. Getting some of the words out of the mouth of the singer, so they have time to breathe, so they can enunciate and communicate the other words, can be beneficial. Especially egregious is the 'connector' 'and'. Singers don't enunciate the 'a', leaving the 'nd' to slur into the next word. Listeners are distracted figuring out what that word was, so they're not paying attention fully in the rest of the Line. e.g., 'and I' becomes 'ndi', and may sound like 'die'. I've seen Lyrics with a half dozen 'But's, lots of 'And's and too many 'Cause's. Writers use them to connect ideas, but listeners may not need them to 'get' what the Line is communicating. It's a Song-Writer's judgment call. Sometimes we're locked in for that word's setup for the Rhythm and Rhyme that follow. It's always your Song. You, as the first listener, get to make the call. I always recommend checking to see how you like it without them.
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#1172476 - 12/16/20 09:34 AM
Re: Winter Night ( Rewrite)
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Steve these are the rhymes in the 3 verse endings,more syllables but they're all the same scheme? John
White Moonlight Tight Night verse 1
------- Doors More White Night V2 --------- Found Around Daylight Night V3 --------------
Last edited by Travis david; 12/16/20 09:36 AM.
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#1172479 - 12/16/20 11:41 AM
Re: Winter Night ( Rewrite)
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Steve these are the rhymes in the 3 verse endings,more syllables but they're all the same scheme? Joh
White RHYME "A" Moonlight RHYME "A" Tight. RHYME "A" Night RHYME "A" verse 1
------- Doors. RHYME "A" More RHYME "A" White RHYME "B" Night RHYME "B" V2 --------- Found RHYME "A" Around. RHYME "A" Daylight. RHYME "B" Night. RHYME "B" V3 --------------
Hi Travis, You are using an AAAA (Monorhyme) scheme for vs 1 and an AABB (four lines into two rhymed couplets) scheme for the other 2 verses...Verse 1 is all A because everything rhymes with "ight" Your other 2 verses are AABB because there are 2 rhyme schemes in each. "OR" & "IGHT" in vs 2 and "OUND" & "IGHT" in vs.3
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#1172498 - 12/17/20 04:09 AM
Re: Winter Night ( Rewrite)
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Thanks for your help and suggestions Steve. I do have a melody for this,which seems to work and it's in the contemporary folk genre as many of mine are. The lyric does need a rewrite and it's very much work in progress Perhaps In a couple of months it might be on the MP. Cheers John
Last edited by Travis david; 12/17/20 04:11 AM.
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