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#1170393 - 10/28/20 04:00 PM What Would We Do Without Music? Not Much In Life.  
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What would any human being do without music? Thank God for it and let hasten to say that without music we all would be without any feeling of thought or love. David played on his Harp in biblical times, Jesus himself, loved weddings because at these occasions he heard music. At the age of eight growing up in the Caribbean, I heard and loved songs like El Paso with Marty Robins, and other singers like Eddy Arnold, Charley Pride, Patti Page's Tennessee Waltz, Lyn Anderson to mention a few.

My long departed and loving grandmother would sing these songs to get her through the day. Fifty years later, I am still listening to good country music but with younger stars. But nothing should be taken away from the good old folks. In the Caribbean, Country Music was belted out at many or most of the events and mostly weddings. You heard that twang as the ocean waves met with the sea walls on a Saturday night. Conventional wisdom is that in the Caribbean Reggae and calypso is all there is. Oh no, oh no, who told you so? Nothing could not be further from the truth. Just this September. I have done what I have always wanted and that is to write and have a song recorded in Nashville. Regardless of age, never give up a dream since age is only a number.

I have been writing since the age of fifteen and because of the pandemic, I have had many days in home "lock down" to reflect on life and I found out something new about me. When you write songs and play music you will never grow old and you will never stop loving. Thanks folks for the opportunity.

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One does not just come out of the blue and be a songwriter. It is an awakening, sometimes starting at an early age. I guess many songwriters see the world through a different lens and that speaks volumes today.

“One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.” ― Bob Marley
#1170543 - 11/02/20 08:14 AM Re: What Would We Do Without Music? Not Much In Life. [Re: CBAY]  
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I think it is interesting to consider where new creative ideas come from. After all, if they are truly unique ideas, how do they come into existence? I think we have this question because we don't know enough about how the brain stores information let alone how it creates wholly new ideas. Theories? Sure, but provable, demonstrable, repeatable processes? Nope. Obviously we can't crack open your jelly head and point to the gears embedded in the cheese. I can see how simply attributing it to God works for the faithful, but even in that context I think there are questions like "Did God simply speak through you meaning you had no part in it, or do you actually participate in that creation and if so, how are the roles apportioned?

Great topic for discussion. Maybe some others will jump in. I see this is only your third post, so welcome to the site, feel free to post more often!


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#1170547 - 11/02/20 08:30 AM Re: What Would We Do Without Music? Not Much In Life. [Re: CBAY]  
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I've had a number of very successful hit writers tell me, "I don't write the songs. God writes the songs. I just hold the pen."
I don't know that I so much believe that, I think God has a little bit more on his/her plate, than sitting around writing some song, but I do thing there is some devine creative spirit that comes in. People are simply blessed with either talent or timing and some times amazing things happen. What they do with that talent or timing is up to them.

A lot of times I hear writers say "God GAVE ME THIS SONG!!!!" And go on to play some really horrible piece of garbage. I think "You either got someone else's message from God, or you are really pissing him off, because he DIDN'T give you THAT!!!"

I don't know how much "divinity" comes into play, but it's not totally random either. Some people in life just seem to do a lot with the opportunities they are given. Some don't. I don't think anyone has the answer or will ever be able to figure it out.

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#1170548 - 11/02/20 09:44 AM Re: What Would We Do Without Music? Not Much In Life. [Re: CBAY]  
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Well Paul Macca wrote yesterday cause he heard it in a dream. Only he started out with the words scrambled eggs, and eventually changed it to yesterday, if it had come from God, I think God would have written ham and bacon!

I read different songwriters talking about this. Many do believe it comes from somewhere else, they are just antennas..... But, there are a few major questions.

Why wouldn't people who don't write songs or play music get songs sent to them too? Why are some songs much better than other songs? Does God say ok, ill give you a song, but its not going to be a great one?

Why do songwriters who are complete a holes get songs and great church going people write crap ones?

It obviously has to do with the brain. How come some businessman who gets an idea on how to make his staff more efficient , why doesn't he say that idea came from God? Lol

Now something spiritual? Possibly. There are theories out there that all knowledge past present and future exists somewhere in the universe and some people are able to tap into it.

There may well be a spiritual world out there, that we cant even see with our limited eyesight. it would explain many strange phenomena , but when it comes to songs,I really think many are fortunate accidents.

I got in the habit of recording myself just noodling on the guitar for a half hour sometimes, not even trying to write something, and hopefully record that one odd bit I played that I probably would never do again, and wouldn't remember. I lost alot of songs cause I couldn't remember exactly what I did.

You could sit there and try to write and nothing comes, then go to the bathroom and suddenly a melody line comes to you, and your like damn what was that again?

I think bursts of creativity happen and sometimes we capture them, sometimes we don't, but in the end the work you put in to your craft is what's gonna shape it into a full song.

"Hey God, thanks for those two verses and chorus, by my publisher thinks I need a bridge too..."

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#1170561 - 11/02/20 04:14 PM Re: What Would We Do Without Music? Not Much In Life. [Re: CBAY]  
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There is no real explaining it. If everyone had the same abilites, everyone would write hit songs. It has to do with many factors, training, experience, and instincts and often antena. I can give you one real world example.

Rivers Rutherford, is one of the really successful writers in Nashville. He's had many hits and cuts by Tim McGraw, George Strait and many others. About ten years ago he was involved in a weekend songwriters retreat sponsored by NSAI. It was attended by around 100 writers from around the country and there were many presentations going on during the weekend. Rivers had given his presentation and was wrapping up when a woman named Claudia, who was the NSAI staff member hosting the event, was helping him conclude his presentation. Rivers made a slightly funny joke that most people laughed at, but it was a little off color, so Claudia, who is in a wheelchair from an early accident, just snickered and said "River's you are a real bad boy but a real good man."
It was all just a funny exchange, but something about it, triggered something in River's brain.

He went home and wrote "I MAY BE A REAL BAD BOY, BUT I'M A REAL GOOD MAN." He did a demo on the song and within a few days it was cut by Tim McGraw and went on to become a HUGE number one. Rivers then purchased a brand new handicapped accessable van, for Claudia to make her life a little easier, for giving him the original line. He really didn't have to do that, but felt it was that important to him. And Claudia is one of the longest serving staff members of NSAI and EVERYBODY loves her!

The point was that there were probably 50 writers there, including a half dozen hit writers and a few NSAI staff members. A lot of like minded people heard the same thing, but Rivers was the one that connected with it mentally and wrote it down. And not only did he write a really killer song, but had the craft and the wherewithal, the connections and previous track record to get it to the right place at the right time.

So is it "God pulling some strings" or just someone who is motivated, knows how to do this, and has done it on numerous occasions?
The world may never know.


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