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#1169836 - 10/04/20 01:29 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
...I hope he gets well fast, but I have my own conspiracies in my mind, but I won't state them... so that they don't scatter all over the net.
I will say there will be political implications from him having it...and recovering from it.

Yes, please don't mention them! There is no conspiracy theory that makes more sense than the most obvious truth: Saturday's supreme court announcement was a spreader event and then the debate preps infected a couple others. Going to Bedminster on Thursday was just a dumb and reckless thing to do.

Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
More TDS!!!

More TSS (trump stupidity syndrome) is more like it.


People like you have been angry since the moment he won and your darling didn't. So yes, TDS it is!


Have a goodun,

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#1169842 - 10/04/20 10:58 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I wasn't angry, I didn't vote last time either. I thought he might be worth a shot. I just think now hes too much of a distraction to America, and we need to stop this media craze. This time I will vote for someone.

I gave my one way he can still get my vote.

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#1169843 - 10/04/20 11:01 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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In three days, trump has gotten, antibody cocktail, two courses of remdemsivir,
Dexamethasone steroid, a heart burn drug that they think that works, vitamin d, zinc, melatonin,

That's some hoax ain't it? Its good to be important.

#1169851 - 10/04/20 04:10 PM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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That was a reply to our resident TDS'er who constantly goes on left wing rants. President Trump has never said the virus was a hoax but he has said the Democrats are doing their best to make it a political hoax, like explaining how they would have handled it better when some of their top leaders were saying we shouldn't have had a shutdown at all.


Have a goodun,

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#1169852 - 10/04/20 04:47 PM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Lol, then he holds the record for the most ways to say its a hoax, without actually calling it a hoax .

His anti mask ideas, his constant downplaying, his mocking the crisis and anyone now ho wore masks.

It amazes me that you still can't say one thing wrong with this guy.

You're being dishonest john, that's the only explanation.

If you want a republican, fine, but saying trump never called it a hoax, is just missing it.

And I wasn't actually referring to trump, many many people have called it a hoax, and not just a hoax that the virus exists, but that its deadly, and prevalent

Its quite obvious what trump ACTUALLY believes, he got three experimental meds, two of which he has stock in, you don't invest in something that doesn't exist.

But his language to the people has been a different story. The people are expected to just wing it and whatever happens happens.

And Mitch McConnell shut down the senate, awww little virus shuts you down? But we can't shut down anything else...like a school?

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#1169854 - 10/04/20 07:50 PM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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#1, you still can't read. he never said it was a hoax, only what I already stated above.
As far as being a liar, I am not. But I definitely can read what the Democrats can say about all the ways they are going to ruin the country and still you support them. That is lying to yourself if you think that is good for America.


Have a goodun,

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#1169855 - 10/04/20 07:57 PM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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If you can read at all, what did I say?

"Then he holds the record for the most ways to say its a hoax, without actually calling it a hoax .

His anti mask ideas, his constant downplaying, his mocking the crisis and anyone now ho wore masks."

If you can't even admit that, I won't assume you're stupid, ill assume you don't care as long as we have a republican.

Were talking about the virus and his recent contraction of it, and how ironic it is that he has consistently downplayed it the whole time...

Were not talking about anything else. It has Nothing to do with democrats.

That's not an answer. That's a different question.

Waste of time.


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#1169856 - 10/05/20 12:14 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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That's exactly how I feel about your remarks. Blinded to anything that doesn't agree with your agenda.


Have a goodun,

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#1169859 - 10/05/20 09:22 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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They aren't remarks, they are facts .

I could say 2+2=4. You would say, the democrats allowed it to happen.

You're answer to anything and everything is pointing fingers at democrats. Which is neither her nor there.

Trump wants to spend 2 trillion on stimulus, Republicans dont want to, now what?




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#1169860 - 10/05/20 09:32 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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FD BBC fact checked this and John is right. Trump never said the virus was a hoax. Does not mean he was not a huge source of confusion though

And the fact you did not vote in the last election, and you are\were thinking of throwing away your vote (unless as you did allude to ...you vote for Trump) is also incredibly dumb. There is no room for a "protest" vote here.

AND as we get all kinds of news sources up here, I can tell you your US media is biased one way or the other. Few US news sources make sense. CNN looks for all kind of ways to make Trump look bad while Fox also routinely lies and glosses over Trump's foibles.....and the "fringe news" is garbage.

The upcoming election is huge. Vote Trump or Biden, but you have to vote for one of them.


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Lol, listen to the Canadian looking in.

First of all FD didn't say Trump called it a hoax, and his first comment said...that's some hoax. Others immediately knew what that could mean and brought trump into it.

But what FD did wisely say:
"Then he holds the record for the most ways to say its a hoax, without actually calling it a hoax .

His anti mask ideas, his constant downplaying, his mocking the crisis and anyone now who wore masks."

He has told people in his meetings and reporters to take the masks off.

And in Canada you don't see his rallies which are televised here...at these he has made such fun of covid and mocked it, once saying corona sounds like a nice village in Italy don't it? "Ahh yes, I never heard of a virus that has all these names...I mean they call it corona, covid, sars 2, C'mon!

You don't see any of that, he often gets away with saying alot of things at his rallies, and they don't end up on websites, but they are televised.

So fact check....FD didn't say trump called it a hoax, if we want to get nitty gritty with usage of a word.

And stop with the bs John, everybody knows how you lean, you're a liberal, socialist ,who can't even spell Republican, and its lame of you to change your spots just to fight me.

Doesn't Trudeau have paint color to put on...or anything interesting in Canada?



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#1169862 - 10/05/20 10:15 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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And stop being such an asshat about the Canadian thing that you assert makes my opinion invalid.

1) I agreed with John that Trump did not say the virus was a hoax, which you were dancing around. He is right. I did not say you said it. In fact I agree with you that Trump was a huge source of confusion

2) I called you out for not voting in the last election, and your remark that you might throw your vote away...which admittedly you changed. You now say you might vote for Trump.

3) I said this before. In Canada we get all kinds of news outlets...so yes, we see images of Trump at rallies all the time. I have a very low opinion of him as a human being and IMO as a president he is also a failure because he only plays to his base...no one else, with the result that he is dividing the US into camps which could turn out very badly.





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I wasnt dancing around it, john was.

I wrote...that's some hoax, we have people in this very thread that essentially called it a hoax. Its a cold , the death toll is lies, it only kills old people (therefore ok). The list goes on. Its a conspiracy to slow the economy or to make trump look bad.etc.

If I say some songwriter is the worst songwriter I have ever heard, he is everything that is wrong with music today. I never said he sucked though did I? So don't say I said he sucked...... The correlation is pretty strong though ain't it?

Me voting doesn't change what happened with covid and whether or not it's considered a hoax, by many .

I regret not voting last time, I will vote for somebody this time, just might not be either of them.

And yes, in a pandemic, that has destroyed entire industries and family and friends struggling because of it, no fault of their own, that if trump can get them the aid they need, and help not just them, but tens of millions of Americans, that is a clear benefit and crucial enough to vote for trump.






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#1169868 - 10/05/20 11:04 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Originally Posted by https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

What's True
During a Feb. 28, 2020, campaign rally in South Carolina, President Donald Trump likened the Democrats' criticism of his administration's response to the new coronavirus outbreak to their efforts to impeach him, saying "this is their new hoax." During the speech he also seemed to downplay the severity of the outbreak, comparing it to the common flu.

What's False
Despite creating some confusion with his remarks, Trump did not call the coronavirus itself a hoax.


He didn't call the virus itself a hoax, but pretty much said that anyone saying it was serious and/or criticizing his admin were part of some kind of democrat hoax. Let's face, he failed miserably on protecting the USA from the virus. His just didn't fit into his alternative reality world. By the way, the steroid they are giving trump has a potential side effect of causing "delusions of grandeur" in the person getting treatment. I wonder for how many years he has been taking it.

P.S. If there is an aid bill passed quickly, then most of the credit should go to the Dems and Pelosi. The Congress actually passed a bill in May that the senate sat around and did nothing about with for three months and then wrote a Repub-only anorexic bill. The House has passed another bill that the senate doesn't want to consider. If trump pushes that through, then he should also get some credit


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Don't forget we have it under control.....

Kevin, it would be Pelosi, only she has decided to not budge from her stance, and price tag. She had multiple chances to get American people help, including an offer from Mnuchin for 1.6 trillion, which are would give enhancement, stimulus checks, ppp loans, help for small busiiness, bailout for airlines, money for post office and schools to reopen.....it came up short for government aid, so so far she has refused it. Also wants illegal aliens to get stimulus checks.

In trying for the homerun, she has people waiting for months for aid, so she can hold her head up and say she's fighting for everything on her wishlist, but people are being evicted, going hungry, going into debt and credit card debt, while she waits to get all she wants. She thinks dems are going to win the election , and she also thinks a deal would make trump look better.

That's why she's doing this. Holding American aid hostage to prevent Trump from getting a thumbs up.

Which is why I say, if Trump rises up and meets her demands, it would be a godsend for many Americans and small business, chefs, waiters, musicians, and good hard working people displaced by lockdowns and the scare of the virus.

It would mean he stepped up and helped while she kept holding out .

This has been going on months, people going without a way to make money, no job to return to.

I'm not stupid , I can see what both sides are doing, but sometimes bottom lines matter, gov officials are elected to be civil servants, to help and represent people, not themselves.

I don't know how on top of it you are, but there are tens of millions of people
totally disgusted with Pelosi.

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Kevin and FD it's that us versus them that makes no sense to me. Republican and Democrats....as Shakespeare so aptly put it, a pox on both their houses.

While they align people around left vs right tribalism the real issues are an eroding middle class and concentration of wealth. The 1 percent is real as is one percent of them and it is this concentration of wealth, and these concentrated pools of wealth, that organize around issues impacting their interests...their interests are expressed in legislation they lobby for

A current Netflix must watch is Capital In The 21st Century which is based on a book by French economist Thomas Piketty shines a light on today's growing inequalities caused by growing concentration of wealth and power in individuals and corporations.

In a follow the money exercise, have a look at who spends the most lobbying government. I did and it's health care, pharma, defence, telecom and internet...while government is elected by political contributions where the Citizen United case essentially handed over more power to the same corporations via their ability to spend money on political campaigns. You can essentially fund the campaign of the politicans you later lobby to help line your pockets by handing you advantages that are entrenched in legislation

Its what makes a conservative heavy US Supreme Court so dangerous because they favour entrenched interests. The heavy faith concentration does not bother me.

As long as they are wise and informed enough to understand that our one God of Abraham is shared by Jews, Christians and Muslims, and they earnestly strive for highest principles, then I will join them in asking God to bless America going into this election.



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Back to the SOS, and nothing about why so many Democrats said it was nothing to worry about and no lock-down was needed who are now saying the lock-down came too late. Just more yada, yada, yada because you either hate President Trump and everything he stands for, or you think you would have done better,.


Have a goodun,

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Many democrats blew the chance to control it, including cuomo in NY among others.

But trump is President of united states, to me, that transcends party, it happened on his watch. All the dems in the world could say one stupid thing after another, trump is the president, he takes credit and he take criticism.

I think Gov Murphy of NJ, a dem, is a horrible excuse for a gov. My sister in law was laid of from her travel company in march, she has not received unemployment YET! I have heard about this for months. They were supposed to open the Ui offices in may, they are STILL closed down. Therefore, nobody can go in to get it straightened out, and nobody answers their phone, and you can't email them.

The only update they give is on Facebook.

I don't give one chit if he's dem or republican, he is boss, and has done nothing for his people. He still hasnt hasnt paid out the executive order trump issued, while other states have already exhausted it.

He lets the moron In charge there continue to screw the people.

If he was Republican, I'd say the same exact thing,.

Trump is in even a higher position he is president of the USA, he continues to make a mockery of it, leaving the hospital and exposing all hospital staff, and secret service staff, just so he can ride around in a car waving to trump supporters at the hospital .

He probably demanded Drs give him anything they could to stop the illness, even if it wasn't warranted..

He's now gonna say, see covids not that bad..... He got three experimental treatments that most people don't get.

All that would be negatives on him whether he was dem or rep.

But your stance is not unusual. Its a problem we have in
Politics right now. Its one side or the other, nobody's right, nobody's wrong, its your party that matters.

I call bull chit, right is right and wrong is wrong.

We got a problem with this here.


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My only problem with you is you refuse to see the good he has done for this country. No I am not going to list them again. That has already been done numerous times.


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LISTEN !

This is a medical issue. Those that wish to make it a political issue are very misguided.

Stay safe and carry on. smile

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Cheers back atcha Niteshift

It is a more than a half year medical issue that is still going on during the end run of the US election where half of the US doesn't like the other and opinions run strong, so that discussion is inevitable.

And I agree admitting things like we have learned and perhaps had we done this and we definitely have to do this now would be a far more fruitful and collaborative interaction at a site where we are all in this together.

So thank you for the intermittent reminder smile

This virus deserves respect and requires avoidance. Not allowing its spread is of paramount importance

Wash your hands often and try not to get them near your mouth or face. Wear masks in enclosed spaces that are not your own home and practice physical distancing. If local numbers are spiking, retreat back to family groups and residences. If you suspect you have it, get tested and follow medical advice.

A vaccine is being worked on and is currently imminent.

To take a real pandemic as we have historically labeled and experienced them, and using that fact for political or economic advantage at the expense of the common good, goes against all my thinking and upbringing but does not surprise me. As much as we can point to wonderful examples of indiviuals we can point to those who would not think twice at selling their metaphorical grandmothers if it gained them some advantage.

And speaking of someone who would not think twice about selling his grandmother .......as a segue back to a political discussion......in his stance on his right to hold or withold Senate approval for another SCOTUS, Mitch McConnell wields hypocracy as a political tool with aplomb.

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There ya go FD. The House has passed two relief bills and both have been rejected by the Senate and Trump. Trump is feeling invincible since he is taking those steroids. His balcony performance last night reminded me (and others) of il Duce.
No counter offer or new bill by senate. They want to spend their remaining time confirming the SCOTUS appointee.

Now trump is saying that the flu is worse than covid. You can't make this stuff up.


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And exactly how much pork was in the offer?


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That was the Republican reason for turning it down...contained to much what they felt was pork and too much aimed at democrat states.

So no one get anything now and SCOTUS is up front.


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Then he tweets this out. Its amazing how they use people as pawns for political gains...BOTH sides. Pelosi won't do it, she already said that would weaken her leverage.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313664886648582144

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Hey Donnie, my sister in law is owed nearly 25k in unemployment , and counting, how bout picking up the phone and calling NJ gov chithead murphy since you have so much time to tweet.

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Then he tweets this out. Its amazing how they use people as pawns for political gains...BOTH sides. Pelosi won't do it, she already said that would weaken her leverage.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313664886648582144

You mean you wouldn't support that bill? better after the election, it's not that far away.



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I never got a first one, and I couldn't be bought for 1200 bucks, 12 k possibly, 120k yes sir!

It would help only a small bit for those in need, but its big for many just to get it.

Most would accept that deal, 1200 or nothing, most people are living paycheck to paycheck, but Nancy turned down alot more than that already, so he knows shell say no.

The only reason he tweeted that is so he can then turn around to the American people and say " see the dems are mean ". NO other reason.

Its not the money its the political games they are playing. She won't let him look good before election, and he will say anything that he don't agree with is meanness by democrats.

The 1200 check is one thing, but they need to bailout airlines, they need to help small businesses decimated By it. One guy I know owns a deli, his business is done, I have an uncle chef who is a really good chef, not working , I know a musician, no gigs, sister in laws industry and place of a work, done.

So a bigger deal is needed, I agree with trump in doing smaller deals to help people, people should always come first, but he knows that's the one he needs.

If he could send people checks with his signature on it right before election, that's huge for him. She knows that so she's making the price tag higher..

Its just a disgrace all the way at around. This is ain't welfare , this is a once in a life time crisis that has destroyed middle and low income people.

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He has already asked for money to help small businesses and the airline, No, no , no! This from the other side. he is trying to help all American citizens affected by Covid. it will never be enough, but some is better than none. The best help will be reopening the economy.
And yes, I believe personally, that cities and states that refused help from the federal government should not be bailed out for all the damage caused by the rioters.


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Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
That was a reply to our resident TDS'er who constantly goes on left wing rants. President Trump has never said the virus was a hoax but he has said the Democrats are doing their best to make it a political hoax, like explaining how they would have handled it better when some of their top leaders were saying we shouldn't have had a shutdown at all.



Even if you are correct on that point: I can show you the terrifying depths of Trump's epic ignorance with a single quote:

“Russia used to be the Soviet Union. Afghanistan made it Russia, because they went bankrupt fighting in Afghanistan,” “The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia. They were right to be there. The problem is, it was a tough fight. And literally they went bankrupt; they went into being called Russia again, as opposed to the Soviet Union. You know, a lot of these places you’re reading about now are no longer part of Russia, because of Afghanistan.”

"They were right to be there" Trump said.

You’ll want to let that sink in for a moment: In this quote Trump endorsed a revisionist lunacy that is currently being championed by a bunch of cranks at the outermost neo-Stalinist fringe of Vladimir Putin’s ruling circle of oligarchs. The depth of his ignorance is stunning, and this quote is only scratching the surface.

"TDS" is an artificial construct, i.e., what is known as a thought - terminating cliche, a trick of the demagogue to kill conversation, which is precisely what the demagogue wants, because they do not want anyone criticizing them, so demagogues fill the brains of their flock with assorted thought-terminating cliches and when anyone criticizes Trump, the blurt it out in an attempt to end the conversation.

However, what TTC's do NOT do is support a valid argument-- they are the crutches used by those with weak arguments.

Moreover , 'left wing rant' is not a valid rebuttal to anything. I'll concede your point on the 'hoax' but there is an arsenal of stuff we can quote, correctly, by Trump.

Look, we should avoid politics on a music forum, it just causes enmity and anger. Music is the universal language. I'm outta here.











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Where Russia came into this I have no clue, except the collusion hoax, and that has truly been proved to be a hoax. Would you like to hear all of the stupid things Biden has said? I don't think so. TDS is something that is easy to prove. You see it everyday from all the people that hate him, from the left wing media who were crying onscreen when they realized he won, to all the socialist one worlders in the streets rioting.


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This is becoming.a comedy. See what happens he makes a tweet, and the stock market follows. "Were shutting down talks"...stocks plummet, he says they're back on, theY shoot up. Traders looking for the right moment to pound, but with trump there is no way to predict what he's going to do. But im sure people close to him know before he makes these announcements and jump the market.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/08/cor...are-back-on-after-he-shut-them-down.html

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Wolf Blitzer smacks Pelosi around. I love it, this guy is left, Dem news channel, but for once non partisanism thought prevails.

Btw, he's completely correct too

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gqPltMpWIwo

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So, here's what is really going on.



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- The socialist, pro-abortion, pro-population control, globalist, elitists have already proven that they will do or say ANYTHING to destroy any national sovereignty to further centralize world government.

- Where money, power, and global authority is concerned, no plausible conspiracy should be dismissed as paranoia considering the amount of lawlessness that has been perpetrated upon the general public already.

- Big "pharma" and the WHO are big MONEY, and we are witnessing, for the first time in history, a highly contagious virus with a very focused morbidity, and a vaccine evolve AT THE SAME TIME.

Am I paranoid? YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!

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I watched a really interesting documentary the other night called "The Brainwashing of My Dad." It was made by a woman who watched her father turn from a rational, likeable man leading a pretty happy life into a bitter, obsessive conspiracy theorist spewing hate and lies to all around him. It started with a change of job leading to a long commute during which he listened to Limbaugh, then compulsive watching of Fox News and perusing of dubious web sites. It was pretty depressing but had a happy ending. When he and his wife moved to a retirement community, his radio broke and he didn't repair it. Then, during a short hospital stay, his wife tried to clear some space on their computer and unsubscribed him from the most hateful of the websites he had been consuming. Finally, they got a new TV and she blocked Fox News on the remote, so he started watching other things. In quite a short time, he started returning to being a happier, more likeable, more reasonable and rational human being.

I think some here should watch the documentary to see that there is hope for them or someone they know. Obsessive Conspiracy Theory Disorder (OCTD) is not incurable. I made that disorder up, but I gave it an acronym, so now it's officially a real thing smile Also, there's a real conspiracy in it for you to get your teeth into (well, not really a conspiracy as those involved are quite open about it). The manipulation of people like the film maker's dad didn't just happen out of the blue.

Thanks to John S. I was interested to know about the documentary that licensed one of his tracks, "The Brainwashing of America," so I googled it, didn't find anything but happened upon this little gem. It's on Amazon Prime, but can also be watched on the IMDB channel for $0.99.

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This just in from CNN...anchor Brianna Keiler posits that Hunter Biden was set up by Nancy Pelosi's hairdresser.

In related news, Twitter and Facebook censor All the President's Men on the grounds it contains information "obtained without authorization".


You gotta love the media...two weeks ago they were saying Trump deserved to get the Wuhan virus. Some said he deserved to die.

Less than two weeks later, he's fully recovered and giving extemporaneous speeches to tens of thousands.

Meanwhile, Biden gives a speech to no one, claiming he's running for the Senate.


The media, Hollywood, Twitter and Facebook are an appalling embarrassment to humanity.


Nashville demos etc:

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Amazon Kindle books by Robert George you may enjoy:

1) Americana

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Originally Posted by couchgrouch


You gotta love the media...two weeks ago they were saying Trump deserved to get the Wuhan virus. Some said he deserved to die.

Less than two weeks later, he's fully recovered and giving extemporaneous speeches to tens of thousands.

Meanwhile, Biden gives a speech to no one, claiming he's running for the Senate.


The media, Hollywood, Twitter and Facebook are an appalling embarrassment to humanity.


Meanwhile, TDS is going strong. It's rooted in the socialism fostered in our extremely left wing colleges and universities that spread it first to mainly only the richest children who spread it to the middle class and have now passed it on to not only all the higher education facilities but into the grade schools, It's a small wonder that so many of our young have been raised without moral values or a love of their own country. It's a small wonder they have no respect for other's property, and have no boundaries against rioting in the streets, looting, physical assault, and arson. And though it's only a made up acronym, so many suffer from it that it has now become a nationwide disease. I wonder how many are going to fall over in shock and disbelief when President trump remains in office. I wonder how many more of our left wing media are going to break down and cry on national TV and how many are going to threaten to leave and then change their minds when they realize how great they have it here.


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Looks like the world is being set up for world government which has to be in place for the anti-Christ to get control. Coming faster than I ever expected but it is exciting and frightening all at the same time. Once this happens, the rapture will take place and God Church will be taken out so there is nothing holding back evil which will run rampant for seven years.

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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
Looks like the world is being set up for world government which has to be in place for the anti-Christ to get control. Coming faster than I ever expected but it is exciting and frightening all at the same time. Once this happens, the rapture will take place and God Church will be taken out so there is nothing holding back evil which will run rampant for seven years.


There are enough Godly and Patriotic, and sensible people still left in America that the new world order is going to have a long and uphill battle before it ever takes effect here. And even the ones living off the tit in America will eventually wake up to the fact that the rest of the world is not going to be as happy to coddle them as their mothers.


Have a goodun,

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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
I watched a really interesting documentary the other night called "The Brainwashing of My Dad." It was made by a woman who watched her father turn from a rational, likeable man leading a pretty happy life into a bitter, obsessive conspiracy theorist spewing hate and lies to all around him. It started with a change of job leading to a long commute during which he listened to Limbaugh, then compulsive watching of Fox News and perusing of dubious web sites. It was pretty depressing but had a happy ending. When he and his wife moved to a retirement community, his radio broke and he didn't repair it. Then, during a short hospital stay, his wife tried to clear some space on their computer and unsubscribed him from the most hateful of the websites he had been consuming. Finally, they got a new TV and she blocked Fox News on the remote, so he started watching other things. In quite a short time, he started returning to being a happier, more likeable, more reasonable and rational human being.

I think some here should watch the documentary to see that there is hope for them or someone they know. Obsessive Conspiracy Theory Disorder (OCTD) is not incurable. I made that disorder up, but I gave it an acronym, so now it's officially a real thing smile Also, there's a real conspiracy in it for you to get your teeth into (well, not really a conspiracy as those involved are quite open about it). The manipulation of people like the film maker's dad didn't just happen out of the blue.

Thanks to John S. I was interested to know about the documentary that licensed one of his tracks, "The Brainwashing of America," so I googled it, didn't find anything but happened upon this little gem. It's on Amazon Prime, but can also be watched on the IMDB channel for $0.99.


Love your avatar Gavin! smile

#1170051 - 10/15/20 07:55 PM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Well, when he's not causing traffic jams cause people didn't vote for him, he's running to the hospital when he gets covid. I don't really mind Christie..he's a big Springsteen fan...lol, and as he says, I love him, he hates me.

But its funny how these big deniers, first sign of covid run to the hospital.

https://news.yahoo.com/chris-christie-says-icu-7-224343806.html


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#1170053 - 10/15/20 11:58 PM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Fdemetrio]  
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Well, when he's not causing traffic jams cause people didn't vote for him, he's running to the hospital when he gets covid. I don't really mind Christie..he's a big Springsteen fan...lol, and as he says, I love him, he hates me.

But its funny how these big deniers, first sign of covid run to the hospital.

https://news.yahoo.com/chris-christie-says-icu-7-224343806.html



Deniers? So you have evidence of this, please link it. The dispute is whether the lockdown causes more harm than good. Guess what? It has clearly caused far more harm than good and the harm hasn't even finished going downstream. Even the WHO agrees and they started it! Way more people will die because of the lockdown than from Covid. If you had watched the video above you'd see them, in their own words from their own faces admit that we will NEVER be allowed to go back to life pre-Covid. No more freedom allowed. That was their stated goal even before the pandemic. They never hid it.


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#1170055 - 10/16/20 01:03 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I have evidence e that Christie denied it, several times, he's in new jersey all the time he lives here. First sniffle he went to hospital, a bit hypocritical wouldnt you say? but here ya go.

https://www.newsweek.com/chris-christie-hypocrite-hospital-coronavirus-1536243

Chris Christie was called out for checking himself into hospital after experiencing mild COVID-19 symptoms after months of downplaying the virus' dangers, failing to take recommended precautions and sounding cavalier and uncaring by remarking that Americans were "gonna have to" accept high coronavirus death tolls.

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Interesting town halls last night with a lots of discussion on covid.

I started off with NBC's Trump's town hall because I thought it would be more "entertaining"! Not even 20 minutes in (before the first audience question), all sound was taken over by a loud tone and no dialog from the audio!!! Closed captions worked, but no audio. I thought the world would be on-fire because of the "jamming", but it looks like it was just our local TV station (from what I can tell). MSNBC still had sound, but we were on tape delay and missed most of it.

So we switched over to Biden's and watched that instead. I thought Biden did OK. Some good answers, some great and some bad. But at least he seemed calm and reasonable. Biden has never been a great speaker (probably due to his battle with stuttering), but he did OK and didn't hurt himself. ... and yes, trump came off as someone's crazy uncle.

I did like ABC's format better (Biden). The town hall actually started off with a question from a town hall voter and then the moderator might follow-up with a clarifying question. So the town hall attendees drove the topics and not the moderator.


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#1170063 - 10/16/20 09:16 AM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I hope it turns out that I've already had the China Virus and just don't know it. However, if I wind up in the hospital, that doesn't make me a "denier". That just makes me fully aware of the statistics and means I've got my fingers crossed like everyone else. This is the first time in history such a thing has been so politicized... Modern medicine is simply not advanced enough to guess how this manufactured disease is going to evolve over time. We are always going to be playing catch-up, today's vaccines may be completely worthless next year. Our only real hope is that nature will take its course and we develop herd immunity before many more people die, (worst case scenario) before this thing potentially mutates into something unstoppable. We still don't have a clue what they were really doing at that lab in Wuhan... Here's a stupid question for you; If this virus truly came from bats, then why isn't China addressing their bat problem?

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Well I agree going to the hospital when you exhibit covid symptoms , makes you smart, not a denier. Christie was smart, and he still ended up in icu for a week. Any time you go to icu its serious.

But what it reveals is that when tough guys downplay it...and as we said in this thread, denying it is not just saying it doesnt exist, but saying the media is controlling it, the numbers are fake, it only kills old people, we have to except deaths, mock masks etc,....but when they say all those things, but run to hospital first sign, it shows they are full of chit, and actions speak louder than words.

My belief is those aggressively downplaying it, know the dangers and their words are for other people not themselves.

Now he's pro mask...

Even Trump got three treatments that nobody else on the planet gets, I'm guessing that's why he didn't spend a week in icu. But he wasn't fighting going to the hospital, when its himself.

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