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#1169421 - 09/21/20 02:48 PM Re: Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Depends if they like drugs or not....

The drug cartel members already inhabit OUR military they say up to 20% of our military is gang affiliated .

They take the military training and then use it on the street when they get out . and if we is go to war, would these gang members even fight for us?

But you omitted A key point, if people want drugs regardless of what we do with the cartels drugs will be here. Somebody else will take it over.

The source is the want. As are all illegal activities.

I agree, if you watch gangland , it teaches you just how dangerous it is to live in the us. walk down a wrong street one time, done.

Scary, but our police cant even handle rioters and protestors, you expect them to go up against hardened criminals for 60 k a year?

What's your solution?


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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Depends if they like drugs or not....

The drug cartel members already inhabit OUR military they say up to 20% of our military is gang affiliated .

They take the military training and then use it on the street when they get out . and if we is go to war, would these gang members even fight for us?

But you omitted A key point, if people want drugs regardless of what we do with the cartels drugs will be here. Somebody else will take it over.

The source is the want. As are all illegal activities.

I agree, if you watch gangland , it teaches you just how dangerous it is to live in the us. walk down a wrong street one time, done.

Scary, but our police cant even handle rioters and protestors, you expect them to go up against hardened criminals for 60 k a year?

What's your solution?



"Scary, but our police cant even handle rioters and protestors, you expect them to go up against hardened criminals for 60 k a year?"

What? No I dont.



The given is "the want" and the profits.
The issue is the formation and power and proximity of a full blown narco state on the southern border.
And whether or not they will finance, install and control politicians on this side of the border.

There is only one way they stop. Assault and destroy their organization(s). The question is whether or not that happens.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet




The given is "the want" and the profits.
The issue is the formation and power and proximity of a full blown narco state on the southern border.
And whether or not they will finance, install and control politicians on this side of the border.

There is only one way they stop. Assault and destroy their organization(s). The question is whether or not that happens.


The only way to stop the cartels/gangs is to make it truly a "War" on them. Use every single resource we have to bring them down, and yes this will work. I almost choked on my breakfast reading the line that said the cartels have better subs than the American Navy. I have seen pictures of some of them, and it would be like them pointing a water pistol at a cannon and expecting to win.


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Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
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The given is "the want" and the profits.
The issue is the formation and power and proximity of a full blown narco state on the southern border.
And whether or not they will finance, install and control politicians on this side of the border.

There is only one way they stop. Assault and destroy their organization(s). The question is whether or not that happens.


The only way to stop the cartels/gangs is to make it truly a "War" on them. Use every single resource we have to bring them down, and yes this will work. I almost choked on my breakfast reading the line that said the cartels have better subs than the American Navy. I have seen pictures of some of them, and it would be like them pointing a water pistol at a cannon and expecting to win.



I saw that too, but have learned not to go sideways with Fd whenever possible.
The cartel "submarines" that I have seen appear more or less "Monitor and the Merrimac" equivalence.

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Yeah they prefer subterfuge over raw power in their submarines (padabump)

Dont expect the US police to deal with cartels in Mexico, but it could be a joint or solo US armed forced attack. I know Mexico is a sovereign state and going solo would cross a huge red line, but it may be the only way IF IF IF things get out of hand there. In the meantime it is a number of different branches fighting this on US soil...and I expect they are doing a good job overall. Local police have teams, but the feds are far better equipped with resources such as tech, manpower, and boots on the ground equipment.


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Yeah they prefer subterfuge over raw power in their submarines (padabump)

Dont expect the US police to deal with cartels in Mexico, but it could be a joint or solo US armed forced attack. I know Mexico is a sovereign state and going solo would cross a huge red line, but it may be the only way IF IF IF things get out of hand there. In the meantime it is a number of different branches fighting this on US soil...and I expect they are doing a good job overall. Local police have teams, but the feds are far better equipped with resources such as tech, manpower, and boots on the ground equipment.





I disagree John.

I think that the DEA et al is fighting a futile battle and steadily losing battle against a steadily gaining and consolidating narco state. If the battle remains on the current track, the narco state becomes unstoppable without military intervention. So , imo, we are waiting for some event to trigger a "war" OR we watch the Narco state usurp massive influence in this country based on mountains of cash and the willingness to easily murder. Silver or lead.

Trump made a run at getting the cartels declared a terrorist organization which would have untied the military, drones etc...but you libs came to the cartels rescue and prevented that. wink

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Only Fd did t say they had submarines better than the American army, he said Mexican army, reading is fundamental.

And the problem has always been and always will be the demand will create the power . we have drug dealing gangs, bikers , mafia in every major city in the us, let alone the border.

Legalize the drugs , cartels go out of business. For harder drugs let the user sign waivers, and get them from a hospital for users. ANd offer help in the same visit.

That's the only way to stop it. Somebody in Scotland can start a new cartel tomorrow, and there are probably hundreds of cartels on the Mexican border.

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Only Fd did t say they had submarines better than the American army, he said Mexican army, reading is fundamental.




Right.
And what all do you know about the Mexican navy's submarine fleet? lol

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Thats what I'm alluding to. they couldn't build up in this country in the same way.

But I'm glad your reading caught up to speed.

We got 20% gang affiliated us military, are they gonna fight?

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I spoke of a stock market plunge, my buddy was right.

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Yeah they prefer subterfuge over raw power in their submarines (padabump)

Dont expect the US police to deal with cartels in Mexico, but it could be a joint or solo US armed forced attack. I know Mexico is a sovereign state and going solo would cross a huge red line, but it may be the only way IF IF IF things get out of hand there. In the meantime it is a number of different branches fighting this on US soil...and I expect they are doing a good job overall. Local police have teams, but the feds are far better equipped with resources such as tech, manpower, and boots on the ground equipment.




As long as there are sanctuary cities and liberals that protect criminals, the fight is a hard one. We need to stop our fighting overseas bring all our forces home, and take back America!

PS, The gang affiliated in the military will have a choice, fight or die.


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Well, I agree gangs in general, which are branches of cartels pose a threat to us all, I would support taking them down, if I thought it would change anything.

When we took down al Qaeda, we had Isis and other groups show up, and al Qaeda is still active.

As far as them having no choice I disagree. Saddam apparently offered a bribe to the two guys who found him. If they were sympathizers they could taken it.

I think our first step is to figure out who is on our side.

It sounds like a long drawn out, if not pointless battle, that will just come back.

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CDC covering their ass again. We'll be seeing more and more of the CDC bogus bullshit being revealed.
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Well, I agree gangs in general, which are branches of cartels pose a threat to us all, I would support taking them down, if I thought it would change anything.

When we took down al Qaeda, we had Isis and other groups show up, and al Qaeda is still active.

As far as them having no choice I disagree. Saddam apparently offered a bribe to the two guys who found him. If they were sympathizers they could taken it.

I think our first step is to figure out who is on our side.

It sounds like a long drawn out, if not pointless battle, that will just come back.


The big difference is that we are talking about other countries here. In America once the gangs are eradicated, we need to stomp out any new ones once they raise their head above ground. The other thing that needs to happen is mandatory sentences for any violent crimes with no plea bargains or reduced sentences nationwide. Do the crime, do the time. If we need to build more prisons, we do that. It will lower unemployment and take the trash off the streets.


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Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Well, I agree gangs in general, which are branches of cartels pose a threat to us all, I would support taking them down, if I thought it would change anything.

When we took down al Qaeda, we had Isis and other groups show up, and al Qaeda is still active.

As far as them having no choice I disagree. Saddam apparently offered a bribe to the two guys who found him. If they were sympathizers they could taken it.

I think our first step is to figure out who is on our side.

It sounds like a long drawn out, if not pointless battle, that will just come back.


The big difference is that we are talking about other countries here. In America once the gangs are eradicated, we need to stomp out any new ones once they raise their head above ground. The other thing that needs to happen is mandatory sentences for any violent crimes with no plea bargains or reduced sentences nationwide. Do the crime, do the time. If we need to build more prisons, we do that. It will lower unemployment and take the trash off the streets.


On TV they said that Bloomberg was spending money in Florida to pay off the warrants of felons so that they will be eligible to vote.
The inmates had taken the asylum over once and they may be just about to do it again.

We need to get the lady judge on SCOTUS and that may be an end of sanity for a while.

I mean think about it...if you are spending money so that robbers, rapists and thieves with unpaid warrants can vote...then you suck and so do the people that you want the robbers, rapists and thieves to vote for. At some point it seems like you would turn on yourself and think...I'm aiding robbers, rapists and thieves. What does that say about me and the people that I hang with? I gotta get new friends.

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"Once the gangs are eradicated" ???

They have been suppling drugs to Americans since at least 1920. In a hundred years of gang and drug task forces, its only gotten worse not better. Now they communicate easier than ever.

Then when some go to prison , they control the prisons. Always amazed me how anybody has power while an inmate, but they do, and the often control what's going on outside. Wouldn't surprise me if el chapo still has communication with the cartel.

Its a problem that will never go away. If we can keep it off the streets and away from civilians, that's the main thing we can do.

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
"Once the gangs are eradicated" ???

They have been suppling drugs to Americans since at least 1920. In a hundred years of gang and drug task forces, its only gotten worse not better. Now theY communicate easier than ever.

Then when some go to prison , they control the prisons. Always amazed me how anybody has power while an inmate, but they do, and the often control what's going on outside. Wouldn't surprise me if so chalk still has communication with the cartel.

Its a problem that will never go away. If we can keep it off the streets and away from civilians, that's the main thing we can do.


History tells most of us that the legalization of drugs doesnt solve the problem. It will create a worse one and the criminal element will still be there with a new plan.
Legalize drugs and that will fix the problem...is fool's gold.

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Provide documentation of this history please?

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Provide documentation of this history please?


Do your own research.

Start with the British occupation of China and the saturation of drugs intended to take the population out their game and make them easy to control.
Then move on to San Francisco in the 19th century and the circumstances that led the criminalization of opioids in this country.

There is a reason that melon heads always say that the problem fixes just by turning the govt into a dealer, yet no one, not even Obama or Clinton will seriously move on the idea. The reason...they know it is a bad idea.

Write them a letter and ask.

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Well, I don't actually think legalizing will work, mainly cause of harder stuff, how can you legalize heroin?

And dealers would probably adapt and make more potent stuff, at same prices.

But I do believe that the war on drugs is a futile one. Btw the band "The war on drugs" are a great indie band.

I could walk about 10 blocks and buy all the drugs I want, without even knowing where to go, just word of mouth .

As I mentioned drug and gang forces have not been able to stop it one bit, in a hundred years,. I'd say the last 50 years or so, right around Vietnam caused a surge in dealing.

There's just too many gangs, members collectively have millions of members. Bikers deal meth and have been for 50 years. Its gotten to the point where task forces and police know some of the dealers by name, and cant atop it. It would require 5 times the amount of manpower, while some guys want less.

And believe me, it bothers me, they shouldn't control our streets and terrorize neighborhoods but they do .

I agree we should not be defending criminals and anybody guilty of a drug or violence should be deported, that's a no brainer for me.

But God, its an unending battle, its too widespread , and that's just here in the us. He'll new jersey alone would be hard enough to stop.

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Well, I don't actually think legalizing will work, mainly cause of harder stuff, how can you legalize heroin?

And dealers would probably adapt and make more potent stuff, at same prices.

But I do believe that the war on drugs is a futile one. Btw the band "The war on drugs" are a great indie band.

I could walk about 10 blocks and buy all the drugs I want, without even knowing where to go, just word of mouth .

As I mentioned drug and gang forces have not been able to stop it one bit, in a hundred years,. I'd say the last 50 years or so, right around Vietnam caused a surge in dealing.

There's just too many gangs, members collectively have millions of members. Bikers deal meth and have been for 50 years. Its gotten to the point where task forces and police know some of the dealers by name, and cant atop it. It would require 5 times the amount of manpower, while some guys want less.

And believe me, it bothers me, they shouldn't control our streets and terrorize neighborhoods but they do .

I agree we should not be defending criminals and anybody guilty of a drug or violence should be deported, that's a no brainer for me.

But God, its an unending battle, its too widespread , and that's just here in the us. He'll new jersey alone would be hard enough to stop.


The war on drugs shoud have been called what it was: The war on the pharma industry's competition.

Pharma companies run and fuel news advertising. Why? Because older and sicker people watch the news. Big Pharma is their #1 source of income, larger than all the others combined. If you include (on top of this fact) long lasting accusations of both parties running drugs, especially out of the #1 producer Afghanistan, not to mention South America. It isn't just drugs for pharma production, though that is part of it. Those countries export to China who makes all our and most of the world's drugs, but it is believed there are also favored gangs/crime enterprises which do dirty work for governments from intimidation to assassination of political leaders around the world, often in these same raw materials countries. China is widely doing the same thing with criminal gangs and warlords in Africa protecting rare earth minerals they harvest en masse, robbing local of their natural resources for pennies on the dollar of their actual value. Gotta make those iPhones and that political woman in country X in central Africa is stirring up locals about how they are being ripped off and taken advantage of (like the myriad kid hand digging for rare earth minerals in shoddy caves which collapse in exchange for food. It's rampant.

People with their eyes and ears closed yell conspiracy sadly more often than good people yell criminal at these operations. Epstein was called out for DECADES yet the mainstream LOVED him and said those people were just conspiracy theorists. It's the go to name to call when the other "ist" and "isms" names can't be applied (those are always first choice when possible). It is easy for these operators when good people do the dirty work protecting them because they can't face the truth and won't listen to evidence or facts they don't like. Living oblivious to these realities just feels so good and doesn't everyone want that new smart phone or pain med?

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Yeah, well I said war on drugs, not really referring to THE war on drugs the political or lack of movement, but just in general.

In order to take down the cartels, we would have to have them declared a terrorist group, which they certainly are, but its slot of gov red tape. And I don't see it stopping even if we took them out completely.

There are buildings in Newark, and in NYC that the police are even afraid to go in. They know they are there, dopey white guy walks into some apartment complex, its quite obvious why he's going. and they see the deals going down with their own eyes and don't do anything cause they are not narcs or task forced.

And these deals go down all day long, walk in un announced, your gonna get lit up.

But they don't mind stopping somebody for going through a stop sign...

Its not easy, I wouldn't want to be a cop.

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It would take every resource we have and billions or trillions of dollars . I think the best we can do is keep it away from citizens, and it would have to be continued and non stop dilligence, for the rest of time.

Control is all we an hope for.

Unless somebody comes up with a vaccine, that makes humans not want drugs.....

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But I like the war on drugs actually..

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
It would take every resource we have and billions or trillions of dollars . I think the best we can do is keep it away from citizens, and it would have to be continued and non stop dilligence, for the rest of time.

Control is all we an hope for.

Unless somebody comes up with a vaccine, that makes humans not want drugs.....




How much do the gangs and the drugs, including all the crime/prison costs, health care, and related things, cost each year? How much do we spend on idle troops each year that could be out fighting these gangs and criminals in the streets? Yes, they would need a little different training, but it would be much cheaper in the long run. But I guess it's better to keep people dependent and scared?


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Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
How much do the gangs and the drugs, including all the crime/prison costs, health care, and related things, cost each year? How much do we spend on idle troops each year that could be out fighting these gangs and criminals in the streets? Yes, they would need a little different training, but it would be much cheaper in the long run. But I guess it's better to keep people dependent and scared?


Your solution to all this is to set up the US military in the streets and take over all crime related duties? You have officially lost your mind. What problem are you actually trying to solve? Crime or the introduction of fascism to conquer all those pesky liberals?

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Your stats stop at 2018. Whose stats are these?
It appears that your stats are going to need some serious updating to reflect the new reality in 2020.

If the cartels continue to consolidate their gains in this country, it will take the military to stop them. Reality is that it would probably take that now.
The question is...will we collectively have the will to do what is necessary to stop them or will liberals such as yourself prevent that from happening? Essentially eanbling the cartels.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Your stats stop at 2018. Whose stats are these?
It appears that your stats are going to need some serious updating to reflect the new reality in 2020.


I couldn't believe it either -- I just couldn't find any charts past 2018. I didn't expect 2020, but I did expect 2019. This chart matches the FBI stats.

Higher crime in 2019 and 2020? Blame trump!

P.S. I don't know what to do about the cartels. Teaming up with Mexico and starting a war makes sense on paper. In this case, FD is right. Reduce the demand for illegal drugs and the cartels get reduced in power over time. But the billions and billions in profit are just too hard to ignore for the criminal element.

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[quote=Sunset Poet]

P.S. I don't know what to do about the cartels. Teaming up with Mexico and starting a war makes sense on paper. In this case, FD is right. Reduce the demand for illegal drugs and the cartels get reduced in power over time. But the billions and billions in profit are just too hard to ignore for the criminal element.


Indetermined internet stat sources are not recognized here at the institute of counter propaganda.

"Just say no" doesnt work. The demand is there. Not going away. Strident sentences for drug use are labelled as "racist." So that is gone as a method to stem it. But the problem of a massively financed, well organized and para-militarized narco state threat to the US either gets dealt with or they continue to usurp.

And it will take the military to stop that threat...if it gets stopped.

Blame Trump for crime stats? Trump is not burning and looting city blocks. Blame the person running out of the store with a tv set or setting the police station on fire. Blame the mayors and governors who wont take decisive action to stop rampant law breaking for political reasons.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Indetermined internet stat sources are not recognized here at the institute of counter propaganda.
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Blame Trump? Trump is not burning and looting city blocks.


Feel free to find your own charts then!

Trump and his minions have created the environment that has led to burning and looting city blocks. And as we all know, right wing outside agitators (trump fans), have instigated a lot of these violent reactions.


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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Indetermined internet stat sources are not recognized here at the institute of counter propaganda.
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Blame Trump? Trump is not burning and looting city blocks.


Feel free to find your own charts then!

Trump and his minions have created the environment that has led to burning and looting city blocks. And as we all know, right wing outside agitators (trump fans), have instigated a lot of these violent reactions.


You say "minions?
When someone throws a brick through a window...THEY threw a brick through a window, not Trump.
I disliked Obama's politics. Fervently at times. But I was never going to commit a felony to voice my displeasure for the "poltical atmosphere" that he created. Or make excuses for anyone else who did.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
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Indetermined internet stat sources are not recognized here at the institute of counter propaganda.
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Blame Trump? Trump is not burning and looting city blocks.


Feel free to find your own charts then!

Trump and his minions have created the environment that has led to burning and looting city blocks. And as we all know, right wing outside agitators (trump fans), have instigated a lot of these violent reactions.

Trump fans? Why would Trump fans participate in something that would hurt Trump?

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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
Trump fans? Why would Trump fans participate in something that would hurt Trump?


I think any rioting during the protests helps trump since it feeds into his "law and order" message. Anyone who believes that trump is on the side of law and order hasn't been paying attention, though.


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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
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Trump fans? Why would Trump fans participate in something that would hurt Trump?


I think any rioting during the protests helps trump since it feeds into his "law and order" message. Anyone who believes that trump is on the side of law and order hasn't been paying attention, though.


Kevin. Please. Give it up.

Bloomberg is dumping money into Florida to pay off the outstanding fines and warrants of CRIMINALS...IN ORDER THAT...they will be eligible to vote for Biden and various Dimocrats. He is enabling delinquent criminal voters to vote for dimocrats by bringing them current.
Your world view is so upside-down, backwards and rationalized that you have no idea what law and order means.

If this kind of insanity did not pervade the Obama years...there would be no Trump presidency.

Wanting to believe that a pit bull is a pony is just ignorance, naivete and stupidity. When you actually try to ride it....it becomes dangerous.



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Both of you knock it off . Come back when you have something intelligent to say, ill wait...

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Both of you knock it off . Come back when you have something intelligent to say, ill wait...


laugh And when will that be Fde?

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Both of you knock it off . Come back when you have something intelligent to say, ill wait...


Oh yeah right. coming from the judge and jury and grand poobah wizard down at the asylum.

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I'm still waiting...

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Your goose is already cooked, simmer down.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Bloomberg is dumping money into Florida to pay off the outstanding fines and warrants of CRIMINALS...IN ORDER THAT...they will be eligible to vote for Biden and various Dimocrats. He is enabling delinquent criminal voters to vote for dimocrats by bringing them current.


I am undecided about having convicted felons vote. They have done their time, so it makes sense in some way. If a state legislature and governor pass/sign a bill that allows it, then that is that state's right. If someone wants to pay the felon's bill (fine or restitution) then there isn't much that can be done about it. No one is forcing them to vote for democrats, it is a secret ballot. It all comes down to personal choice, as you keep preaching. If allowed to vote, they can vote any way they want. If I was a felon and someone wanted to pay my fines, so I can vote, I would probably take them up on it.

I voted today. Early in-person voting is a thing now in Virginia.

"Your world view is so upside-down, backwards and rationalized that you have no idea what law and order means." -- blah, blah, blah. I do know what that means and the trump crime family is the exact opposite of what it means.


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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet


Indetermined internet stat sources are not recognized here at the institute of counter propaganda.

"Just say no" doesnt work. The demand is there. Not going away. Strident sentences for drug use are labelled as "racist." So that is gone as a method to stem it. But the problem of a massively financed, well organized and para-militarized narco state threat to the US either gets dealt with or they continue to usurp.

And it will take the military to stop that threat...if it gets stopped.

Blame Trump for crime stats? Trump is not burning and looting city blocks. Blame the person running out of the store with a tv set or setting the police station on fire. Blame the mayors and governors who wont take decisive action to stop rampant law breaking for political reasons.


In case no-one noticed Hee-Hee, all of this is happening in Democrat controlled areas. Now no-one will say this is the fault of those Democrats, instead they say President Trump is as at fault, imagine that! I love writing President Trump because it gives all of the snowflakes tremors!

And I have never said the military should take over all police duties. This is another example of taking things and twisting them to say what you want. I said they should be used to help fight a real "War" on drugs gangs and cartels. If they were, all of these people would start using their guns and most would die. Not a bad thing to happen to violent criminals. And yes, they would keep at it for as long as it took to solve the problem and if/when it crops up again, they would be used again. How many want to step up and say the military can't handle this job?


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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Bloomberg is dumping money into Florida to pay off the outstanding fines and warrants of CRIMINALS...IN ORDER THAT...they will be eligible to vote for Biden and various Dimocrats. He is enabling delinquent criminal voters to vote for dimocrats by bringing them current.


I am undecided about having convicted felons vote. They have done their time, so it makes sense in some way.


Alice...that says it all.
That is what misguided confusion looks like. And that may illustrate why this wonderful country is ultimately doomed.

I will leave you with the most denied truth in modern society..."the best predictor of future bad behavior is past bad behavior."

I hope that some light has shone through. wink

PS...A great deal of the time I dont think that felons actually do all of "their time." And rape victims and the victims of violent crimes and murders may actually never get released from their personal hells. But such contemplations dont fit the liberal narrative, do they? Unless Donald J is the alleged perp.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
But then again....

a blue goose looks bluer up against a red background.


Fd..

Imitation is a form of flattery.
I was imitating you and your typical irrelevant digressions.
I thought that you would like it. Maybe even start arguing about geese.

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How much do we spend on idle troops each year that could be out fighting these gangs and criminals in the streets?


That is what you said. That is what military dictatorships do, like in your favorite example of Venezuela. One of the great things about the USA is that the military is NEVER used on the civilian population. Go down that road and it won't be long before the government decides that who the "enemies" are based on whatever criteria they want to use. I believe you are advocating for full blown fascism, it IS a slippery slope.


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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
How much do we spend on idle troops each year that could be out fighting these gangs and criminals in the streets?


That is what you said. That is what military dictatorships do, like in your favorite example of Venezuela. One of the great things about the USA is that the military is NEVER used on the civilian population. Go down that road and it won't be long before the government decides that who the "enemies" are based on whatever criteria they want to use. I believe you are advocating for full blown fascism, it IS a slippery slope.


Aren't the national guard part of the military? And if your other options aren't working what do you do, give up your streets like the Democrats want to do now?


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