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Mutlu
by Gary E. Andrews - 04/15/24 07:08 PM
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Travis gave me the idea for this one. I thought it needed more comedy to fit the Irish atmosphere so had a bit of a rewrite. Apologies for the accent and the title is borrowed. Vic https://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold/rare-old-timesRare old times ©2020 J. Vaughan & V. Arnold ( LYRIC CHANGED 10/7/20) V1 A local pub was swaying Two fiddlers were playing A drunken lad was wailing while his mother played the drum Among the laughing and the slighting cursing and a fighting The barman was enlightening another drunken bum V2 Two old men in the corner sitting, cracking jokes, 'til sides were splitting while their wives were busy knitting two pullovers for their sons Murphy shouted out to Dickie, "Wool just makes me itchy" I'd rather drink more whisky to keep me body warm ... and Ch. They talked about the rare old times, the simple things they missed, Saturday nights in Dublin and the girls they tried to kiss Drinking too much porter then falling to the floor then good old pals would pull them up and carry them to their door. Inst. V3 A chancer from Killarney who'd won a prize for blarney swore that he was in the army at the Battle of the Boyne He was trying to get merry with a girl from County Kerry who'd come over on the ferry just to knee him in the groin V4 One more rebel song to go One more lengthy tale of woe Murphy says "One for the road. You can pay for mine". Dickie's on his feet, denying "It's not my turn for buying". Windmill fists are flying and the landlord calls out "Time". Ch. Tag They talked about the rare old times, the simple things they missed, Saturday nights in Dublin and the girls they didn't kiss
Last edited by Vicarn; 07/10/20 07:01 AM.
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Well you two may be full of .... Blarney, but you're also full of music! Great example of the style, well written, well played. I can almost see the wink of an eye before you started. Enjoyed that! -Mike
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I really enjoyed this. A proper fun song. Musically, it sounds like that blend of traditional and country that you hear on Irish radio stations like Midwest Radio.
Where is this set? The description, especially the idea of old ladies knitting sounds like a pub in the Irish countryside, but the reference to the ferry makes me think maybe London or Liverpool.
Unless you want to start a real fight, I'd drop the reference to Londonderry and replace it with Derry. You could keep the rhythm with the insertion of an adjective, such as: He was trying to get merry with a feisty girl from Derry or He was trying to get merry with a red-haired girl from Derry
If I were you, I would get rid of the stock Irish names Murphy and Paddy. It would sound more genuine with other less cliched Irish names.
Slainte!
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Cool fun tune...
It is squarely overseas and for me the cliches work because that’s all I’ll understand.. it brings up an interesting point because for someone who is not informed cliches really work where as if you went with something that only Irish people would understand you may lose the other audience that would get lost...
And that’s why cliches work many times, and we as writers always want to steer everyone away from them. but I want a lyric where I can understand what the heck is going on
great job
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Good point, Steve. If this is for an American audience, then Paddy and Murphy work as shorthand for Irish. If it's an Irish or even a British audience, then it might cause a slight rolling of the eyes and identify it as a song for "those bloody Yanks" LOL. Since there is such a sizeable Irish diaspora in America, it could work for either. In fact, it might work better for the American audience. There is a tendency among Irish Americans to view their own heritage and supposed character and patterns of behavior in stereotypical terms, such as the picture painted by this song. I should make it clear that I don't see those stereotypes as a weakness in the song. Now, if there was a leprechaun in the pub playing darts...
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Thanks Mike Z. Winks are essential.
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Hi Guys, A good fun song with lots of flavour. i can see the lassies clogging with their skirts flying now.
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Good Evening gentlemen ..
Yes, very Irish-sounding to these old ears. Loved the fiddle and the fun lyric. Thanks for a really nice listen ... enjoyed it a lot. Wishing both of you the very best. Be safe ...
Alan
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Thanks Mike appreciate your comments and the loan of your ears Regards John
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
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Hi Gavin. Thanks for your suggs. I take your point about the two Derrys but (according to a pal of mine from NI) whichever one I choose I'll be dammed depending on which side of the fence one's on. Therefore I decided to change it to County Kerry. Also, I changed Paddy to Dickie as it rhymes better with the next line but decided to keep Murphy to make him more loveable. :-)
Funny you should say if it was a London pub because that was the original line but it could be any pub frequented by Irish folk.
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Thank you Steve. Very true. There has to be something familiar there. Many US song lyrics have confused us Brits in the past but if we liked the song we usually looked up what they meant.
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It's pretty clear from the fact they're singing rebel songs that it would be Derry to them, but going with County Kerry seems like a great way to avoid the problem altogether and avoid the possibility of upsetting any died in the wool Unionist who happens to listen. Vic, do you know Midwest Radio in Ireland? They play this kind of Irish/Country crossover stuff a lot. My wife listens to it all the time. They might give this a spin.
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Well, singing rebel songs is something that tends to be sung anyway in local pubs. My pal isn't a nationalist but does them on occasion if he's asked and just for the hell of it.
I don't know Midwest Radio but I'll look into it. Thanks again for that.
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Thanks Alan. Glad you enjoyed it. Best wishes to you.
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Thanks for your help Gavin John
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
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Hi John. Thanks. Glad it got your feet twitching.
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Vic/John,
I never gave a thought to critique as I was being too entertained! made me thirsty for a beer as well, thanks!
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Hi Ed. I'm looking forward to one of those nights in the pub, if there are any pubs left by that time. Thanks for the comment.
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Hi Ed Good to see you around Thanks for comnents I'm staying clear of bars for a while, let's see if everything settles down first Regards John
We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
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Vic, and Travis,
This was a fun one! Love the effect you have going on in the background--gives it a great live feel. No suggestions from me . . . though I did listen to this some days back and thought switching "Paddy" to "Ritchie"--not because of any cliche concerns, but because it might better rhyme with "whiskey" and "itchy" . . . but you've already addressed that, and "Dickie' works just as well.
Great little tune, boys! Enjoyed it!
All my best,
Deej
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Thank you Deej, for your comment and for the listen.
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Well told story. Very pleasant and easy to listen to.
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Thanks Martin. A different tone for me so happy it worked ok.
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Enjoyed my listen. Irish to it's core. Humor, tempo and words.
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I t would be awesome if you happened into a Pub, on a stretch of road one night and this was going on!! couldn`t think of a better time.. good music and writing, and a great vibe it creates Lane
"Blessed are the words of truth and fiction, one might save you from the other...Vincent
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Thanks Lane. I was gigging in Ireland for about three months in the sixties sometimes touring with a very popular, crazy, hard drinking band called The Dubliners. I remember those wild and rare old times with great affection.
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