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#1164657 - 05/25/20 03:20 PM Single Song Agreement  
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Hi. I received a Single Song Agreement from Big Yellow Dog for my song "Bad Day Good" to be pitched to Lee Ann Womack. I can't afford to pay a lawyer to look this contract over. What do all you poor like me songwriters do???


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#1164658 - 05/25/20 03:26 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Originally Posted by Donna Dutchess
Hi. I received a Single Song Agreement from Big Yellow Dog for my song "Bad Day Good" to be pitched to Lee Ann Womack. I can't afford to pay a lawyer to look this contract over. What do all you poor like me songwriters do???


Without seeing your contract... if this is the company: http://www.bigyellowdogmusic.com/cuts/ - congratulations Donna!

Best, John smile

#1164662 - 05/25/20 04:38 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Hi Donna:

Congratulations on attracting some attention with your song. Does the contract limit exactly how long these folks have to pitch the song... and more importantly, is there a reversion clause?

John: That's a pretty glitzy web-site B-Y-D has established. If I were Donna, I would ask them for some success stories and get permission to get to talk to a few of their clients about how that relationship worked out.

Some would say, on the other side of the coin, how many opportunities arise these days. Lee Ann Womack is a "name" in the Biz but the odds are still pretty slim.

Best of luck, Donna. ----Dave

#1164664 - 05/25/20 05:02 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Humm,
According to their Web Site they don/t accept Outside Submissions. They are listed at 1313 16Th. Ave South, Nashville, Tnn. 37212. It's been a while since Lee Ann Womack released anything. Of course I haven't looked to see if she has a Web Site. A automatic Reversion of one to three years is most important. Good luck.


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#1164665 - 05/25/20 05:05 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Ray E. Strode]  
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They don't accept outside submissions. This contract is with Matt Lindsay who is with Big Yellow Dog.


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#1164666 - 05/25/20 05:08 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Dave Rice]  
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They have 3 years, then revision clause kicks in.


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#1164667 - 05/25/20 05:37 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Originally Posted by Donna Dutchess
They have 3 years, then revision clause kicks in.


That's reasonable Donna.

John smile

#1164673 - 05/26/20 06:25 AM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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A reversion clause, very important. Good luck and congratulations, at least you have a foot in the door to get heard.

#1164706 - 05/27/20 04:15 AM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Have you Registered the Song for Copyright? www.copyright.gov
Who 'owns' Publishing Royalties? At what percentage?
Who 'owns' Songwriting Royalties? At what percentage?
As the Songwriter you 'own' 100% of Publishing, and 100% of Songwriting.
The Publisher's incentive to pitch the Song is your 'assignment' of 'ownership' for Publishing Royalties, if any are earned, at some percentage agreed to by contract.
Is the Song title 'registered' with a Performance Rights Organization (PRO) meaning those 'owners' names are listed with the Song title for receipt of Royalties if any are earned when the PRO calculates it each quarter after it is 'cut' and 'released' to market?
The 'Reversion Clause' sets a date for when 'ownership' of Publishing Royalties, 'assigned' by the Songwriter(s) 'reverts' back to the Songwriter, freeing them to market the Song to another Publisher, and/or other artists. A specific date seems logical so there is no question of that deadline.
Having 'any' lawyer look the contract over might be beneficial. Entertainment law has nuances a lawyer who practices criminal law or commercial law may not be familiar with. But any lawyer might be better than no lawyer. While you're there you may want to talk about a Will, since your Intellectual Property, this Song, can be inherited by the persons designated in your Will. Ask about the fee to read through the contract, and to write a Will. See what you CAN afford.
Act quickly to keep the project moving forward.



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#1164715 - 05/27/20 11:43 AM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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I once had a lawyer read a single-song contract for me from a guy in Nashville. Best $200 I ever spent.

That being said, congrats to you Donna!


Regards,

Bob

#1164728 - 05/27/20 05:34 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Have you Registered the Song for Copyright? www.copyright.gov YES, IT IS COPYRIGHTED.
Who 'owns' Publishing Royalties? At what percentage? PUBLISHER OWNS THE PUBLISHING
Who 'owns' Songwriting Royalties? At what percentage? 50%
As the Songwriter you 'own' 100% of Publishing, and 100% of Songwriting.
The Publisher's incentive to pitch the Song is your 'assignment' of 'ownership' for Publishing Royalties, if any are earned, at some percentage agreed to by contract.
Is the Song title 'registered' with a Performance Rights Organization (PRO) meaning those 'owners' names are listed with the Song title for receipt of Royalties if any are earned when the PRO calculates it each quarter after it is 'cut' and 'released' to market? YES
The 'Reversion Clause' sets a date for when 'ownership' of Publishing Royalties, 'assigned' by the Songwriter(s) 'reverts' back to the Songwriter, freeing them to market the Song to another Publisher, and/or other artists. A specific date seems logical so there is no question of that deadline.
Having 'any' lawyer look the contract over might be beneficial. Entertainment law has nuances a lawyer who practices criminal law or commercial law may not be familiar with. But any lawyer might be better than no lawyer. While you're there you may want to talk about a Will, since your Intellectual Property, this Song, can be inherited by the persons designated in your Will. Ask about the fee to read through the contract, and to write a Will. See what you CAN afford.
Act quickly to keep the project moving forward.

This contract is a standard contract. Revision clause: 3 years from date it was signed then all rights revert back to me. My hopes is that this will open doors for me. As you know: the doors in Nashville have always been locked up tight.


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#1164729 - 05/27/20 05:35 PM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Thank you everyone for your responses and help. I feel more comfortable moving forward with this.


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#1164921 - 06/02/20 08:10 AM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Donna,

With a single song contract, it is sort of you take or you don't. There is not a negotiation, and not really a lot to talk about. And being pitched, really is only getting a foot in the door, it's not knocking the door off the hinges. You should be proud that it got attention that someone wants to put it in writing that they are representing it, but don't get too wrapped up in it. Move on to other songs and things and if something happens, they will let you know.

The fact is that songs don't really earn much money any more. It is all about artist branding now, and even cuts on major label products, are not garanteed to earn anything. So it's more for "bragging rights" than anything. If it works out, hopefully they might ask you for more songs down the road and offer opportunities to write with and get to know their artists and writers.

It's not going to make or break a career. The contracts are very basic because for the most part, not a lot happens on these things. But again, it is a good sign that you have some attention. Make sure if they offer you an open door, you deliver product that is well written, well recorded, and gives them something to work with.

Congratulations and enjoy it, then move on to other things. When professional writers operate, they don't just stop when they get songs pitched or anything. They move on to other writing appointments, other songs, other realtionships. It is very routine for songs, even at the top of the pecking order, to take years or even decades for something tangible to happen. You've got it in the door, gotten a foot there, now you keep that in the back of your mind, and move on to other things.

MAB

#1164923 - 06/02/20 08:34 AM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Marc Barnette]  
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Thank you Marc. I agree with you 100%. You've taught me so much over the years and hope to meet you someday when all this craziness is over.


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#1164948 - 06/03/20 08:25 AM Re: Single Song Agreement [Re: Donna Dutchess]  
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Thanks Donna, It's so good to see you continuing along. And congratulations for getting some attention for your song. Toby Keith's company, Big Yellow Dog" have a lot of writers and songs to choose from so the fact that they gave you something tangible, in the form of an actual contract is a very good thing.

A lot about this business is easy to be caught up in and easy to get lost in. We feel like that next meeting, the next song, the next show, could be THE ONE that turns the corner on our careers, and well could be. But we are also in a business with a million intangibles, and most of the time, it is all hurry up and wait. Even getting cuts hopefully getting singles, getting something to radio or distribution, internet platforms, sometimes take FOREVER!!!!

As I said, getting songs signed and then pitched, sometimes will take months or even years before we actually hear something. Artists take a long time to do projects. Touring, publicity, usually take a long time, and of course now, with the current restrictions on our time and our audiences, often mean we are all in a holding period. There is activity going on, and more and more go digital and online, and that means of course, that it's easier to get lost with the millions of others on the net. So it's best to temper all that.

So the best thing to do is ALWAYS celebrate your victories, enjoy it, and be aware of it. Then you go to do other things. If something happens, there will be a long process to go through. You would get notices that it is being physically pitched, any response and then if someone is going to record it, you would be informed. But also remember that often getting recorded is not being released. They often will cut songs that don't end up being used. So don't get dissapointed, just understand it is the nature of things.

Good luck to you and continue on. Glad to hear you are still around.

MAB


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