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#1162418 - 03/26/20 12:43 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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The predictions (that I have seen) of death outcomes from this virus span scenarios from one that turns the corner in the next couple of weeks in most locations...to a prediction of 80,000 will die from it by the time its over.

My suggestion is to click this link to Johns Hopkins compilations.

Learn what it is telling you
Check it often
Believe it first and your favorite human being second..
conduct your personal life with caution.

The data is imperfect but less so than a politician or a media talking head.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

#1162419 - 03/26/20 02:01 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...new-yorks-coronavirus-outbreak-is-just-a

The death toll depends on our current response. This is a terrible time to push for social activity in the name of economic health..But as far as I'm concerned, the ones who insist on that are free to go right ahead without those of us who won't. Darwin made some very good points.

#1162420 - 03/26/20 02:18 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Mark Kaufman]  
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Originally Posted by Mark Kaufman
https://thehill.com/policy/healthca...new-yorks-coronavirus-outbreak-is-just-a

The death toll depends on our current response. This is a terrible time to push for social activity in the name of economic health..But as far as I'm concerned, the ones who insist on that are free to go right ahead without those of us who won't. Darwin made some very good points.


"The Hill?"

When I said in my prior post to believe stats from JHU before you put credence in "your favorite human" I had sources like The Hill in mind.
Sean Hannity is pushing some party-line crap that I consider callous and immoral. Basically trying to figure ways to persuade people to abandon mitigation prematurely. As if he had any idea of the actual realities involved. I'm sure that you agree.
I just watched a CNN interviewer grand stand and sensationalize an interview with over the top doomsday assumptions. Clearly trying to scare people as much as she can and bring the world to her.

Why? Because it's click bait.
If you want to be deceived then put credence in crap coming from political fire starters like "The Hill."

If you want some idea of reality look at the stats put out by Johns Hopkins.

#1162421 - 03/26/20 03:26 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Absolutely agree Martin. If you want medical information, you go to trusted scientific\academic sources. Any news source is inferior to a highly ranked university or clinic.

The absolute biggest problem IMO is that WWW is absolutely full of web sites putting out bad information.

I have a good friend who is otherwise very very smart....who pooh poohs this pandemic, calls it a big scam by big pharma, and says COVID deaths are insignificant in comparison to opiod deaths, car accidents etc. He also claims says there is a cure for cancer, but it is being witheld because it is cheap and would wreak havoc with the cancer industry, that hyperbaric chambers are a health panacea as are REIKI waves...it goes on and on. Every now and again I just have to tell him to STFU .

I've told him many a time now that well googled but not well read.

But people still believe the nonsense


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#1162422 - 03/26/20 07:26 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Wow we are seeing thousands of cases per day, ny has 37000, we got over 6 thousand, just the other day I typed 2900.

Hoboken medical center released a statement today that they have 6 days to get ventilators or they'll force doctors to decide who gets them.

All this talk about splitting respirators that sounds weird sharing a ventilator with another patient.

Trump did sign an emergency package for newjersey so well see how fast it helps.

Strange times, I walked passed a woman who had a carriage, I cut across the street to protect them and ease her possible fears.

I was rewarded with one of the dirtiest looks I've ever gotten. I did it for her not me.

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#1162423 - 03/26/20 10:24 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Expected rate of mortality is twelve million?? Preposterous fear mongering.


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#1162424 - 03/27/20 07:15 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Wrong. The death rate per million is 3.8%, do the figures.

cheers, niteshift

#1162425 - 03/27/20 07:33 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: niteshift]  
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Originally Posted by niteshift
Wrong. The death rate per million is 3.8%, do the figures.

cheers, niteshift


Correct for World stats. USA is around 1.4%. My home state is less than 1%. Of course, this is just from the available data. No way of knowing the real stats..

John smile

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#1162426 - 03/27/20 07:55 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Hey John, quite correct.

My quote was from Johns Hopkins who are only collecting verified data. The real rate is probably somewhat higher.

Stats here..... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Italy and Spain seem to have an exceptionally high kill rate. Mainly elder men. Not so good for me. I am somewhat older and have a small amount of Spanish blood. Bugger !

Stay safe guys , and please just be sensible.

cheers,, niteshift

#1162427 - 03/27/20 08:31 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
Originally Posted by niteshift
Wrong. The death rate per million is 3.8%, do the figures.

cheers, niteshift


Correct for World stats. USA is around 1.4%. My home state is less than 1%. Of course, this is just from the available data. No way of knowing the real stats..

John smile


Good point. And that will be true throughout this.
However as someone said to me...Trust figures from Johns Hopkins. You cant rely on them to be completely accurate or completely consistent...but you can rely on their information gathering and methodologies to be consistent. And their public statements will be more of a narration than an attempt to snare attention.

#1162428 - 03/27/20 08:58 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Well said John. They just gather information the best they can and put out their available facts without comment.

cheers, niteshift

#1162429 - 03/27/20 10:45 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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You can't say the mortality rate is just 1% when it is clear that the expected rate is 4-5% from the aggregate numbers

That you have 1% now means that people are still waiting to die....your rate is a "spot rate"...where it is today. But you have to wait for this to run its course through the infected population before you can start putting any faith in your numbers.

Look at the numbers in 10 days or so...


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#1162431 - 03/27/20 11:12 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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My theory is, and everybody has a theory, is they are focusing on deaths and inflating it because they want to make sure they stop the spread so that the cost to hospitals doesn't explode.

The death rate is bad, even if the % is not because if there was no corona, none of the deaths would have happened.

But the death rate is not as significant as the cost and strain on the hospitals.

Just cause people aren't dying they are still suffering and still being treated, which could actually cause deaths to other people who bring have document other things.

The death rate has been a steady 1 to 1.5 % for while now. That's probably the rate. Even still nobody wants to be in that group, and nobody wants to be lying in icu sharing a ventilator with someone else.

Also nobody wants to be in a hospital if they don't need to. Both my parents went into the hospital in bad but not dire situations, and neither of them made it out. Pneumonia in the hospital kills probably as many people as it does having before you go in.

Plus super bugs that lurk in hospitals a rare form killed my dad, his immune system didnt even form antibodies to it, which means the bug can hide from the immune system.


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#1162432 - 03/27/20 11:17 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I think that region matters a lot in terms of projecting curves. In the city limits of Houston, Texas;

(fact) There are currently 69 confirmed cases.
(fact) There are 2.3 million people in the city limits.

That is not a disaster.

(presumption) In talking to health care professionals that I know personally there are many more wards filled with PRESUMPTIVE but UNTESTED cases.
(presumption) There are people walking around right now who feel fine but carry the virus.
(presumption) those people and others who dont observe mitigation will infect more.

For me...the focus becomes what I think of the PRESUMPTIVE numbers.
Before this virus runs its' course in my city...will the confirmed cases swell from 69 to several hundred? several thousand? several tens of thousands? several hundreds of thousands?


I don't know. The reported and reliable stats don't seem to be extended enough to conclude anything.
As testing kits become more available, hopefully good information will also. So I wait and watch.


For NYC or Omaha or NOLA...waiting and watching likely looks different.

My 2 cents. Worth what you paid for it.

#1162447 - 03/27/20 12:37 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I thought Trump was acting responsibly and was doing a good job, but this is not going to help him. His home state nonetheless

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-coronavirus-ventilators-new-york-state-030627060.html

#1162449 - 03/27/20 12:53 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Hey Fd,

I've been a pathologist for over 35 years. Trust Johns Hopkins and their figures.They are underestimated because they only rely on verified fact.

The course of this disease is on on exponentially upward trend.

Just do the right thing, and stay home. Wash your hands and practice social isolation.

cheers, niteshift.

#1162450 - 03/27/20 01:02 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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That's your occupation?

I usually get the Hopkins reports, which says it's about 1 to 1.5 %. Problem is
The Hopkins results are associated with politically slanted news reporting. One article citing Hopkins was from news max

I believe their numbers. I'm right here where it's happening, can't bs me. A lot of hospitals can't function.

I'm sure we shall overcome but it's amazing how nowadays no media left or right can be trusted.

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#1162451 - 03/27/20 01:15 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Fd here is the map they keep updated https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Currently 566,269 cases worldwide with 25,423 deaths...that is a rate of about 4.4% and 127,768 people have recovered....meaning there are still 400k + people working their way through it.

This 4+ percent is the rate the experts keep telling us about. Why would the US experience be any different?


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#1162452 - 03/27/20 01:15 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Fdemetrio]  
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I thought Trump was acting responsibly and was doing a good job, but this is not going to help him. His home state nonetheless

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/trump-coronavirus-ventilators-new-york-state-030627060.html



Huffington Post is a far left propaganda rag set up to inflame the passions of a targeted group. Newsmax is a counterpart. Propaganda rags are the first tier of things to be ignored.
Maybe there is some truth to what they say, maybe not. But the propagandists on both sides have not called a truce in their turd tossing wars even though people are actually dying.
They are in it for themselves and advertising money.

As Rahm Emanuel said..."Never waste a good crisis."

#1162453 - 03/27/20 01:25 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Nobody has it worse than ny and it's just not 4%, it's not

I think its partly cause we also have the greatest medical resources I mean people come from all over the world to do surgery and see specialists.

So, other countries might have higher death rates than us.

Again, I'm not sure why the death rate is the be all and end all, high or low.

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#1162454 - 03/27/20 01:31 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I know Marty I don't trust huff po or newsmax, but he did say what he said. He doesn't believe new York needs it.

something like that doesn't need a source. He said it on Hannitys show. Hannity is another great honest American too...

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#1162457 - 03/27/20 03:08 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Fdemetrio]  
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I know Marty I don't trust huff po or newsmax, but he did say what he said. He doesn't believe new York needs it.

something like that doesn't need a source. He said it on Hannitys show. Hannity is another great honest American too...


Hannity is Trump's defacto press secretary. He is a propagandist and still screaming foul about this and that as if the game was still full on but merely changed stadiums.
I'm 67 and in good health, but if I were to find myself in a hospital bed with fluid on my lungs and increasing difficulty breathing, I wouldn't care about any of the politics. I would just want to survive.
I wish that all the fire starters would realize that fully.

I think Trump's admin is doing a good job at this. I think that Cuomo is doing a good job for his state. I hope that they both do even better jobs.

#1162459 - 03/27/20 04:19 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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According to Johns Hopkins, the US is now the hotspot of the world, and climbing rapidly. But we'll save big money at the mall this Easter.

#1162461 - 03/27/20 05:22 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I don't know if the admin is doing a good job or not. They were dealt a bad hand and seem to be getting their act together -- better late than never. Of course, what didn't help was the massive denial from trump and fox news during the early part of the virus outbreak. It does bother me that he continues to blame past administrations and the "fake news" for all his problems -- he has been in command for three years. But let's go back to the remarks that are on record (at least some of them).

Trump on coronavirus
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 13: "I am officially declaring a national emergency - two very big words."
March 13: ‘I Don’t Take Responsibility at All’


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#1162463 - 03/27/20 06:48 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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He had and still has a golden opportunity to virtually seal his next term. I mean Biden doesn't look coherent.

My guess is when it hits the next state like they think New Orleans could be the next epicenter, but they might not get the same support. I mean are they gonna sign billion dollar rescue plans for every state?

But I think he still has the chance to be a hero, or a zero. Time will tell

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Yeah yeah Kevin...

Trump responded initially very poorly, but when the virus made clear that it was a massive threat...he got mobilized and is doing pretty well at it.
Someone(s) else thinks so because his approval rating rose to a new high.

COV-FEFE
The meaning of that famous and nonsensical phrase is now revealing itself.. wink


But I tell you what...If slamming Trump makes your world feel better, have at it.

#1162466 - 03/27/20 07:36 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Fdemetrio]  
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
He hhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covfefe

But I think he still has the chance to be a hero, or a zero. Time will tell


For real.
The virus has to wind down and the economy has to wind up.

However, Biden is shaping up to be such a poor candidate, he could be Trump's wild card no matter what the circumstance.
Cuomo's star is rising in this. He is doing a good job for New York. The dems might try to talk Joe into stepping down for him. But that is per BS speculation.

Have a good weekend and mitigate. wink

#1162469 - 03/27/20 10:54 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Kevin Emmrich]  
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I don't know if the admin is doing a good job or not. They were dealt a bad hand and seem to be getting their act together -- better late than never. Of course, what didn't help was the massive denial from trump and fox news during the early part of the virus outbreak. It does bother me that he continues to blame past administrations and the "fake news" for all his problems -- he has been in command for three years. But let's go back to the remarks that are on record (at least some of them).

Trump on coronavirus
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 13: "I am officially declaring a national emergency - two very big words."
March 13: ‘I Don’t Take Responsibility at All’





Curious that you didn't cite the source for your Copy/Paste, Kevin.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213091481


Curious, indeed. Democratic Underground?


How very subversive of you , comrade. smirk

#1162471 - 03/28/20 04:41 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Please stop the politics. This is a medical issue...... and it is VERY serious.

cheers, niteshift

#1162472 - 03/28/20 07:33 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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db90: I have never heard of the democraticunderground. Many sites are showing that same timeline of quotes. In the end, I don't care what the site is as long as the information is accurate. If the info was accurate and came from fox (which I check everyday) or rush, then I am not opposed to it. There is no doubt that all of those quotes are accurate and not taken out of context. Are you questioning the accuracy of any of those statements?
Here are his own words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvE9hCZ-jaU

niteshift: you are 100% correct, I will do my best to avoid falling into the "political trap" game.


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#1162482 - 03/28/20 10:33 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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The minute somebody says "this is media hyped, I don't believe it" it becomes political. The solution to the problem is very political, because the government is writing the check. When businesses are closed and people are laid off, it's very political.

Politics are inescapable, I'm surprised it did t happen sooner. I agree with Nite shift that it's not the time for bickering just because you !ean one way.

I'm in the middle on politics and this is no different. Trump has acted both responsibly and irresponsibly during this, so that's my thoughts on him.

But the political bullying guys cmon, at least argue about the politics of this situation, not politics in general.

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I came across some information this morning that I thought (possibly) helpful in understanding the pandemic.

Texas has a population of 29.9 million people and 1,950 total COVID cases.
New York (state) has a population of 19.54 million and 46,262 COVID cases

I'm not suggesting any conclusions to draw from that. I am certainly not saying Texas-good, NY-bad.

I am just putting it out there to consider as the pandemic progresses. The Federal govt has delegated a lot of authority to the states and your local decisions may be very different than somewhere else.. The threat to you may be very different and the road out of this may look very different.

The new case growth "rate" in the USA did appear to decelerate slightly, though one day is not a trend...and it is still a lot of new cases...but one can hope for a trend..

#1162488 - 03/28/20 11:51 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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This just in from CNN...Kathy Griffin blames Trump for death
of Game of Thrones direwolf...


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#1162489 - 03/28/20 11:56 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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There's possibly a lot of reasons for that difference.

The state of New York contains the city of New York. The city that never sleeps, it's the world city. The travel back and forth, the international connections, the hustle and bustle lifestyle. And much of life is sandwiched in
It's not unusual for one main drag to have hundreds of not thousand of people all walk in passed one another. Hundreds could be in the same corner waiting for a walk sign. Not unusual for hundreds of people to walk out of a skyscraper for lunch.

Hundreds and thousands riding busses, trains, cabs. I mean there is never a time when a large crowd is not present everywhere barring a snow storm. And flights every minute of the day.

And other cities in New York are similar.

In Texas you have many country areas and areas with not as much clustering. I'm sure Dallas and Houston are similar to new York city. But those other areas might skews the numbers verse reality

It's just not that surprising to me that the most relevant and travelled city In the world would have the biggest problem with a communicable disease.

I wouldn't expect other states to have this big of aproblem, but it's going there regardless.

And under normal curcumstances, there's no better hospital system to be In. If you need one...just not right now

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All true. NYC is an international city,

major port of entry with people passing through terminals to transfer on as well as enter the city.
Very heavy reliance on mass transit, subways and taxis and buses
Densely packed sidewalks
Every entertainment venue possible, stadiums and theaters.

All places where the virus can transmit through the air and deposit itself on handles, handrails , door knobs, chair seats and on and on.

Yet, the discrepancy between the number of cases in Houston and NYC is still staggering. More than I would have expected.

The bad news for NYC? It is built around that lifestyle. And as long as the virus lingers or worse, re-infects...the contagion could fire back up in the subways and sidewalks.
The bad news for all of us? The USA needs NYC to prosper.




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Even with the current lockdown in New Jersey the two most obvious places are still open. Grocery stores which is hilarious if they thought they wouldn't get hundreds of people in the store at once.

But also subways and trains are still open, atm machines with all those fingers on them, all that is still contributing to it. Good thing we don't have payphones any more.

And perhaps the biggest tragedy of all is I needed a hair cut two months ago, last get together people were getting on me about it, now I'll have to wait another month at least.

I'm starting to look like bono in that where the streets have no name video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GzZWSrr5wFI

Don't forget every grocery you buy could have been touched or sneezed on by somebody else.


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From Joy Reid on MSNBC...NOLA mayor blames Trump for not warning him of Wuhan threat before Mardi Gras. So, in addition to traditional Mardi Gras transmissions of Herpes, Syphilis and Hepatitis, plus alcohol poisoning, heroin ODs and run of the mill homicides, NOLA must now deal with Mardi Gras revelers with flu-like symptoms...


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#1162512 - 03/29/20 02:21 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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When I think of Trumps wasted weeks of inaction in February, and Fox News calling it all a Democratic Hoax, I recall a rather embarrassing story about myself.

it was one or two months after I had started living on my own, One evening I noticed a few ants in and around the sugar bowl. There were no more than 15. Less than 0.00001 percent of the kitchen was ant infested. I was tired and decided it could wait till morning and went to sleep. As you might imagine, the next morning, there were a few thousand ants all over the kitchen. Was my decision dumb and lazy? yes it was. Just like Trumps early decisions on this crisis. All I can say in my defense is that unlike trump, I did not have any experts trying to convince me otherwise. and unlike trump, I did not claim to have no responsibility for the bad result of my slow reaction.

The tool in the shed that ignores the very smartest tools in the shed, is a truly dull tool indeed.

The above is what I am sure of. The below is merely my theory.

The descrepency between 1% and 4% mortality rate might be due to the care given to the most critical cases.

80% of the infected people will have no/mild/moderate symtoms. For those people covid19 will be no worse and often less severe than the ordinary flu. But the other 20 percent will need medical help.

Maybe the breakdown of that 20 percent is 16-3-1.
16% recover with doctor and possibly some hospital care.
3 percent can recover with ICU intensive care and ventilators.
1% had no chance at all.

It will in interesting/infuriating to see how many of the 3% survive with ventilators, or will some die for lack of ventilators and ICU units. Whose hands will their blood be on? Trump? Fox News? or just people that didn't take social distance seriously?


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#1162513 - 03/29/20 05:03 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: John Voorpostel]  
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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Couch, get with the program here. Just because Idris did not feel anything, or escaped relatively unscathed just means he is lucky given his age, health, and access to health care.

And it is NOT a media inspired panic at all. The real problem is that no one trusts Trump or his government except his loyal sycophants. Fox News was in lockstep with Trump in denying there was a problem...,.all this elapsed time allowed the virus to spread. But let's not throw blame. Lots of time for looking back later.

For now, we know there is a large outbreak in the US. Where it goes we will know only after the fact given the incubation period. People think they are well, but are infectious as hell and just keep passing it on.

So do as the health professionals tell you. Keep your distance from people and practice personal and proximal hygiene. Full stop




ALL the networks downplayed it well after grim reports were readily available on YouTube smuggled out of China. ALL OF THEM! Why is it people's opinions about this devolved into MORONIC Left/Right political paradigms? Either we start working TOGETHER and ignore the media war drums of division, or we all DIE TOGETHER.


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#1162514 - 03/29/20 05:47 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney

So do as the health professionals tell you. Keep your distance from people and practice personal and proximal hygiene. Full stop

Either we start working TOGETHER and ignore the media war drums of division, or we all DIE TOGETHER.


Well said Brian.

I am still in isolation as is most of London at this time. But have no symptoms.

There are still those who have no sense. I saw some 20 year olds in a group last night keeping their distance from each other, but 1 idiot with them was weaving close to them all and making contact with them.

At the supermarket yesterday, who are allowing the front line health health workers and us pensioners the first hour to shop on our own, some were trying to pretend they were health workers to jump the line....didn't work though.

I think keeping busy helps being alone at home. Personally I have a 3d printer and have been making masks for friends and family, and anyone else who needs one..

The original design was free on the net, and I modified and improved it.. I am also putting it on the web for others to download if they have a 3d printer.

2 versions shown below.

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I hope that you all keep safe and look after each other...

God Bless to all

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Well said Brian,

Let the MORONS debate the issue, whilst sensible people do the right thing.

cheers, niteshift

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Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Couch, get with the program here. Just because Idris did not feel anything, or escaped relatively unscathed just means he is lucky given his age, health, and access to health care.

And it is NOT a media inspired panic at all. The real problem is that no one trusts Trump or his government except his loyal sycophants. Fox News was in lockstep with Trump in denying there was a problem...,.all this elapsed time allowed the virus to spread. But let's not throw blame. Lots of time for looking back later.

For now, we know there is a large outbreak in the US. Where it goes we will know only after the fact given the incubation period. People think they are well, but are infectious as hell and just keep passing it on.

So do as the health professionals tell you. Keep your distance from people and practice personal and proximal hygiene. Full stop




ALL the networks downplayed it well after grim reports were readily available on YouTube smuggled out of China. ALL OF THEM! Why is it people's opinions about this devolved into MORONIC Left/Right political paradigms? Either we start working TOGETHER and ignore the media war drums of division, or we all DIE TOGETHER.



Well that was obviously directed at me. My apologies for responding. I will take my moronic ass out of this conversation


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#1162527 - 03/29/20 11:07 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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No John he's not telling you to get lost.

The biggest denier of all was Trump, but he turned it around and dealt with it.

If you don't believe this is a problem send your assistance check back.

Also, don't blow it up so high just to expose our political system, cause you don't like it in the first place.

Deal with the problem, if you don't feel it's a danger to people, at least consider the cost and the shortage of medical resources.

They don't sign historic 2 trillion dollar relief packages for the flu, they obviously figured out it's not the flu, but an unknown threat.


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Like them or not, we have the cast of politicians in place that we have in place.
I can't remember a time in my entire life that made governors more important than this one
In more casual times, they made the news for gerrymandering.

50 governors and Pence and Trump are running the effort to keep people from dying.
We need them to cooperate fully and all do a good job.
I did not vote for my current mayor, but he is doing a very good job of keeping the fear down and constructive efforts moving. I wish him the best at this time.. I eagerly listen to what he has to say.

Beyond the virus is the economy and the ongoing (or not) livelihoods of millions of people. Trump was right when he said that bad economies cause suicides.

I hope that they all do the best job possible.


Ps. Wife just returned from grocery store. She wore a mask and gloves. Police met her going in and out. She was required to use sanitizer before touching a cart and required to use it when leaving the store.
Comforting to know.

We have a rental unit where we live. Our renter is a Pediatrics MD and her family. She is going on 2 week shifts at the med center hospital where she works. I think that she has to remain there for the entire fortnight. That is strident and hopefully overkill for Harris County but comforting to know that the people in charge are all-in.


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https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2020/0...pd-officer-to-die-from-covid-19-illness/

New York police are getting hit. This guy had asthma, but he was young. Can't quarantine everybody with a disease.

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Joe Diffie Country singer dies of covid19. I wasn't familiar with him but R.I.P.
https://news.yahoo.com/country-singer-joe-diffie-61-211142802.html

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If you go to JHU chart and look in the lower right at the "Daily Increase" graph.....you will see that the number of new cases for the last 4 days is between 18,100 and 19,400 new cases.
Four days does not insure a trend, but it does appear (to me) to be the first 4 day flattening of new cases on the chart.

Mitigation appears (to me) to be taking hold. I hope..

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Martin: That seems like a piece of good news to me: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html (Click on US and then in the lower right -- Daily Increase). That seems like a new option, I hadn't seen that before.

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#1162558 - 03/30/20 09:02 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Kevin

it looks like a possible firewall. Hopefully it holds. Even if it does not, at least the acceleration rate appears to have stuttered.

Many people have now been fearful and backing away (mitigating) from each other for about 2 weeks which is the upper length of the asymptomatic period for a carrier. One can hope that makes data collection at this time regarding the number of new cases reliable. There is a time lag to what we are seeing.

One other bit of potentially good news is that the FDA approved the use of the malaria drugs without clinical trials. If someone is laying in a bed, dying of pneumonia and only being kept alive by a ventilator ...that gives them another shot to take. If the malaria drug is effective, it could slow the death rate a lot.

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#1162562 - 03/30/20 10:19 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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In New Jersey and New York It's not slowing down in fact it's getting worse, worse in the amount of people diagnosed. Alot of that is due to the mass testing, but every day were getting two thousand people Diagnosed.

We also have to factor in that many are not abiding by the rules. NJ police have broken up several corona parties, some of which were catered and had djs, them people should be put in jail. Only they are letting low level offenders out of jail to control this. A nice 1000 fine might stop it, instead of breaking it up.

It appears the experts and scientists are getting preference and Trump is listening to them, which is a good tbing.

I mean some people won't even admit they were wrong about the epidemic.

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