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#1162192 - 03/14/20 04:17 AM Edit: ALL Corona Virus Post MUST Go Here  
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In reply to Johns shoutout...
Surprising that no one started a coronavirus thread yet. (John's shoutout)

I think I have it John. The NEW big 'C'. Why do these things mostly have the letter 'C' at the front.

I went to the dentist 2 weeks ago and he put me on antibiotics for a week, prior to having a root canal job.

Then I went back on Wednesday last.

He did the root canal job, and cut off the top of a bad tooth and removed another. All it one session.

When the injections stopped working, the pain was worse than before I had the tooth done. So paracetamol is helping.

Anyway, 2 days after the dentist, I got a fever and became weak as hell. Then the coughing.

I decided to self isolate, and luckily my friends brought my essentials around, (leaving them on the doorstep).

Yesterday my temp was through the roof, and I went to bed and sweated like I was in a sauna.

I feel a lot better today, so hopefully if I had it, it was a mild version.

I have had colds and flu before, so know that this was different.

I think my sense of humor has kept me going.

God Bless to all

Roy

I know that it may not be needed, but I do think everyone should have a pre-arranged contact who will bring essentials should the need arise.

NOTE TO ALL: My Apologies To Roy for this Edit. I think it is important for people to be able to express their thoughts and feelings on this Pandemic somewhere and this seems to be where it has settled. Please do not post about it anywhere else. That way for those wishing to avoid the topic (not easy to do anywhere) they can simply NOT read this single post. Meanwhile all those wanting to engage have a place to do so.

There's a lot of misinformation on the Internet, not just from conspiracy theorists. It comes from "legitimate" sources as well. The WHO incorrectly stated that Human to Human transfer was not possible. The CDC incorrectly stated that Wearing a Mask would not help. (Now it is mandated, which is another issue entirely). Plenty of Governors, Senators, Representatives, Health Experts, President and Staff and others have also been wrong time and again. Lots of theories. Lots of opinions. Lots of Censorship. All I ask is no personal attacks. Argue your point, don't attack the individual. Thanks and stay safe. And sorry again to Roy for editing his post.

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#1162195 - 03/14/20 08:12 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Roy, sorry to hear about the ordeal you suffered. Sounds nasty. So far, here in Newfoundland there has been no reported cases but that will not last. So many people, especially in winter, will take vacations down south or in some warm country, so surely someone is going to bring it back with them. People are still going, even though they've been warned not to go by government and friends. But you know, it can't happen to me attitude prevails, and they go, but they are told they must go into isolation for 14 days after they return. Cruise ships with over 500 people are banned from landing here until after June. They will likely be banned from many ports, so what kind of vacation is that, just seeing ocean water for two weeks with land off in a distance, then having to go into quarantine for two more weeks. I heard on an open line type radio show last night where this couple had just returned from vacation and had to go into quarantine because her husband had the symptoms of the virus, and she was thinking she might have to cancel their family vacation planned for spring break. People have too much money and too much time on their hands. They are on vacation much of the year, So much for preventing carbon pollution of the air to prevent global climate change. They say almost any hour there are a million people in the air going somewhere. Off seeing the world before they destroy it.

#1162199 - 03/14/20 01:35 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Here in Fiji, we are lucky that we are in an isolated place. No coronavirus.

Having said that, Fiji relies on tourism, and the cancellation rate has been 80% with hotel occupancy down to 20%. Cruise ships are being cancelled.

I just signed a lease for my restaurant/bar/jazz club. Great huh ? A new club with no guests. LOL

That's Ok. As a musician, I have played to empty rooms before, ( once with a little old lady and her dog ) I expect to take a hit for the next 4-6 months. It will pass, and hopefully we will resume normal programming in the near future. smile

cheers, niteshift

#1162206 - 03/14/20 06:31 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Hi, Roy. I'm glad you're feeling better. It sounds like you're one of the tens of millions who catch a seasonal ailment every year.

As for the world being destroyed by CLIMATE CHANGE, Spring is definitely in the air here in SE Az. We've had some rain, now it's time to get out and mow. We had a cold winter, but now birds are singin', buds are sprouting and it's getting to where we can sit out at night on the deck I built, drink coffee and watch the moon rise from the playa.

Life is good and one perc to come from Wuhan Flu hysteria? Hollywood is shutting down production on its endless crap sequels and reboots.

Praise be to GRETA!!! wink


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#1162212 - 03/15/20 04:38 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Thanks for the comments folks,

I have slipped backwards a bit now, and am still in self isolation. So won't be answering individual comments.

A couple of thoughts that have passed through my mind as I have laid in my bed over the last week.

Even if this turns out NOT to be the pandemic as predicted by many, it is a wake up call to the world, because at some time a virus will come that will be frighteningly dangerous,
and then an orchestrated world plan will be needed.

Also in the past I have seen people with flu on buses or trains or even in the casualty of hospitals or doctors surgery's coughing the germs everywhere without even a tissue.

I used to hate taking my Helen (God Bless Her) for even an x-ray because she was more likely to end up with something else by the time it was done.

That seems to have changed now, peoples mindsets have changed, and not a moment too soon.

I have to say that I still have my sense of humor, so when I saw this clip, I did smile, although its more ironic than funny, but It is so true.

Its from a comedy spoof sitcom in the UK in the 1980s called 'Yes Prime Minister.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNjFIwRYEIo

God Bless to All

Roy


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#1162222 - 03/15/20 11:32 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Short video with everything you need to know about the coronavirus pandemic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hks6Nq7g6P4 Rated R

Best, John smile

#1162224 - 03/15/20 12:40 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Roy, I hope you feel better soon. Thank you for posting about your experience.

#1162225 - 03/15/20 01:38 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Here's what I know. An infinitesimally small percentage of people will contract it. Among those, a very small percent will die, mostly those who already have health problems. Same as other seasonal ailments.

Common sense preventives can curb it, same as other respiratory illnesses.

It originated in China.

The rest is media induced hysteria.


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1) Americana

2) Teenage Graceland

3) The Will to Be

4) Fort Mystery

5) Wheel Sea

6) My One True Love
#1162230 - 03/16/20 07:24 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Sometimes you have to use a sledge hammer where a tack hammer would do because people have no fear of tack hammers but they do respect sledge hammers.

#1162232 - 03/16/20 03:46 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I'm more interested in how Roy is doing than anything else.

#1162238 - 03/17/20 11:53 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I hope you're doing well, Roy!

This is the worst time in our shared history of the world to say stupid things about this particular pandemic. Not with everyone's lives at stake. It isn't like the seasonal flu at all. Common sense in the face of a new killer in town is not to feel knowledgeable and smug in your decision to disbelieve it through force of opinion. Here is just one of many pieces of better information, this one sent out from Shelby Health Department in Ohio, one of hundreds you can find as all municipalities scramble to change this kind of thinking:

WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, PLEASE READ:

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in his shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks...

#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks.

#1162239 - 03/17/20 12:26 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Interesting information, Mark. Thanks for sharing that.

Roy, I too hope you're doing OK.

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#1162240 - 03/17/20 12:43 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Thanks Mark! Finally someone answered my ongoing question. Where did you find this info Mark?

Best, John smile

#1162241 - 03/17/20 12:44 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Hi Donna! Hope things are better in the Lowlands Donna.

Hope you're feeling better Roy. Take care.

John smile

#1162242 - 03/17/20 12:49 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Hi John. smile Stay safe & well. We're in total lockdown over here.


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#1162243 - 03/17/20 01:50 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Get better soon Roy.

My prayers are for you making a full and speedy recovery.

No lockdown yet where I am located but hear this virus could hang around a while.

#1162246 - 03/18/20 01:03 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Mark Kaufman]  
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Originally Posted by Mark Kaufman
I hope you're doing well, Roy!

This is the worst time in our shared history of the world to say stupid things about this particular pandemic. Not with everyone's lives at stake. It isn't like the seasonal flu at all. Common sense in the face of a new killer in town is not to feel knowledgeable and smug in your decision to disbelieve it through force of opinion. Here is just one of many pieces of better information, this one sent out from Shelby Health Department in Ohio, one of hundreds you can find as all municipalities scramble to change this kind of thinking:

WHAT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, PLEASE READ:

Feeling confused as to why Coronavirus is a bigger deal than Seasonal flu? Here it is in a nutshell. I hope this helps. Feel free to share this to others who don’t understand...

It has to do with RNA sequencing.... I.e. genetics.

Seasonal flu is an “all human virus”. The DNA/RNA chains that make up the virus are recognized by the human immune system. This means that your body has some immunity to it before it comes around each year... you get immunity two ways...through exposure to a virus, or by getting a flu shot.

Novel viruses, come from animals.... the WHO tracks novel viruses in animals, (sometimes for years watching for mutations). Usually these viruses only transfer from animal to animal (pigs in the case of H1N1) (birds in the case of the Spanish flu). But once, one of these animal viruses mutates, and starts to transfer from animals to humans... then it’s a problem, Why? Because we have no natural or acquired immunity.. the RNA sequencing of the genes inside the virus isn’t human, and the human immune system doesn’t recognize it so, we can’t fight it off.

Now.... sometimes, the mutation only allows transfer from animal to human, for years it’s only transmission is from an infected animal to a human before it finally mutates so that it can now transfer human to human... once that happens..we have a new contagion phase. And depending on the fashion of this new mutation, thats what decides how contagious, or how deadly it’s gonna be..

H1N1 was deadly....but it did not mutate in a way that was as deadly as the Spanish flu. It’s RNA was slower to mutate and it attacked its host differently, too.

Fast forward.

Now, here comes this Coronavirus... it existed in animals only, for nobody knows how long...but one day, at an animal market, in Wuhan China, in December 2019, it mutated and made the jump from animal to people. At first, only animals could give it to a person... But here is the scary part.... in just TWO WEEKS it mutated again and gained the ability to jump from human to human. Scientists call this quick ability, “slippery”

This Coronavirus, not being in any form a “human” virus (whereas we would all have some natural or acquired immunity). Took off like a rocket. And this was because, Humans have no known immunity...doctors have no known medicines for it.

And it just so happens that this particular mutated animal virus, changed itself in such a way the way that it causes great damage to human lungs..

That’s why Coronavirus is different from seasonal flu, or H1N1 or any other type of influenza.... this one is slippery. And it’s a lung eater...And, it’s already mutated AGAIN, so that we now have two strains to deal with, strain s, and strain L....which makes it twice as hard to develop a vaccine.

We really have no tools in our shed, with this. History has shown that fast and immediate closings of public places has helped in the past pandemics. Philadelphia and Baltimore were reluctant to close events in 1918 and they were the hardest hit in the US during the Spanish Flu.

Factoid: Henry VIII stayed in his room and allowed no one near him, till the Black Plague passed...(honestly...I understand him so much better now). Just like us, he had no tools in hi
s shed, except social isolation...

And let me end by saying....right now it’s hitting older folks harder... but this genome is so slippery...if it mutates again (and it will). Who is to say, what it will do next.

Be smart folks...

#flattenthecurve. Stay home folks.


Interesting read.

I see the points being made, with one unsubstantiated assumption: That this was 100% positively a case animal to human from an animal market place. That leap of "guess" is problematic for me. I could make a leap of "guess" that this is a weaponized virus from a weapons grade biology lab in the same city, released intentionally during the Chinese New Year EXACTLY when Chinese return from nearly every country in the world for the holiday and then head back out to all those places with a nasty bio weapon attached to each of them. And by hitting the airports firsts it multiplied how many directions it would go once those infected planes landed.

I put nothing past the red china communists. They welded people into their homes (and worse) to shut it down in their country. They have those powers. They also know the entire west, which get's their life saving medicine mostly (90% of some key drugs for the USA) from China are doubly hosed by this. Terrifyingly genius economic warfare on the rest of the world minus their buddies to the North in Russia who closed their borders almost day one and have very little exposure in their country. That leaves two villainous countries (plus N. Korea) to rise up faster than ever before against the west who will be fighting this for years if not permanently.

They are saying this is now a yearly illness just like Flu which is worse, more dangerous and should set back the entire West decades compared to China and Russia.

We shall see.

Meanwhile, the economic damage is already done. Massive job loss among the working poor and irrational behavior and suspension of Western beliefs like free travel, free mobility, free right to association, freedom on private property to gather and so on. And it could get much much worse than that. And we've learned once Govt.s grab a power, they never let go of it (see The Patriot Act signed by BOTH parties).

Illness aside, we're screwed and life will never quite be the same in the best of scenarios. In the worst, there could be more dead from social unrest than the virus.

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#1162247 - 03/18/20 02:50 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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I hope you get feeling better Roy. One thing I learned from a fever episode months before the Covid19 outbreak is that if you are no longer in your twenties, a fever of 103.5 is a serious thing and you should seek medical health. I got scolded by our doctor for waiting till urgent care opened in the morning rather than going to the emergenys room at 2am.

Of course now, just going to the emergency room or urgent care can mean increased risk of catching the covid19 virus, so its a tougher decision. But please Roy call your doctor or medical advisor if the fever persists to see what they suggest.

This will be the year of trying to make good decisions between horrible choices.

Couch, please take it seriously. no need to be scared but plenty of reasons to be very cautious. this is real, especially for people our age. One hundred dead (up to 104 just s few minutes ago) is not a lot on the national scale, but it is doubling every week. check this post again on 3/24 and I predict it will be close to 200. check again 3/31 and it will probably be close to 400. 1000 by mid April. I hope i'm wrong, I really do.


It takes getting used to. I have literaly washed my hands more this month than in any 5 year span of my life.

and they closed Disneyland. There were signs that Disney Land might close. In the week before it closed, there were subtle changes to the rides that hinted of trouble ahead.
Little animatronic robot children in clothing from variolus countries, all singing "It's like small pox after all"

They moved the skeleton head of the pirates of the caribean, the one that says "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here". He is now over the arrival gate of the international portion of LAX.

The hippos and crocadiles on the jungle cruise were all wearing surgical masks. The river guide still was still yelling "look out" but he had a squirt bottle of purell instead of a gun. strange days indeed.


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#1162248 - 03/18/20 03:32 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Moosesong]  
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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
I'm more interested in how Roy is doing than anything else.

Thanks Gavin and I am improving, then slipping then improving and it gores on...


Originally Posted by Moosesong
I hope you get feeling better Roy. One thing I learned from a fever episode months before the Covid19 outbreak is that if you are no longer in your twenties, a fever of 103.5 is a serious thing and you should seek medical health. I got scolded by our doctor for waiting till urgent care opened in the morning rather than going to the emergenys room at 2am.
Thanks Moose.. appreciated

From my experience with this in the UK, the Doctors was a waste of time and refused to even speak to me with a call back.
The doctors receptionist just insisted that I call NHS 111and said that none of the doctors would take the time to call me.

When I called111, I waited 6 hours for them to answer then after listening to 20 recorded messages was told by a recording that I should just stay at home, and call 999 if I was to become seriously ill, and in fear of my life.

Luckily I have got through it. I tried to get food delivered from asda (Walmart) and was told that it was 3 weeks for home deliveries.

When I said that I needed some food and would have to come to the store, they said that I would be arrested if I did.
So much for the stores helping out.

Luckily my wonderful neighbor brought me some food around, and my local councilor arrived with a large bag of food, and a hot meal and also brought my other pills from the chemist. There are good people out there.

Testing doesn't exist any more in the UK. Even front line doctors can get tested when getting symptoms. There isn't enough testing kits.

My thanks to every one who has wished me well and I will keep this updated. I am so tired a lot of the time.

Please for all of your friends and families sake err on the side of caution in everything you do. There is no second chances.

Can anyone tell me 'how many times can I watch the same films before loosing my mind'?...lol

Speak later

God Bless to all

Roy




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#1162249 - 03/18/20 06:31 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Wow Roy! Thank goodness you made it through. Now you'll never know if you had the "C" or not. Take care...

Best, John smile

#1162250 - 03/18/20 06:42 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Originally Posted by Brian
I see the points being made, with one unsubstantiated assumption: That this was 100% positively a case animal to human from an animal market place. That leap of "guess" is problematic for me. I could make a leap of "guess" that this is a weaponized virus from a weapons grade biology lab in the same city, released intentionally during the Chinese New Year EXACTLY when Chinese return from nearly every country in the world for the holiday and then head back out to all those places with a nasty bio weapon attached to each of them. And by hitting the airports firsts it multiplied how many directions it would go once those infected planes landed.


So what you are saying is that there is an equal chance that this is:
a) a novel virus -- mutates so it can jump from animal to human and then mutates again so it can jump human to human; or
b) a weaponized virus from the Chinese

While you always could be correct in your guesses, it mostly sounds like a whack-a-doo conspiracy theory that Alex Jones and his ilk are normally selling.


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#1162251 - 03/18/20 08:29 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Folks, don't take this virus lightly. If it is man made, and it could be, it could be the fulfillment of what Revelations chapter 6 verse 8 calls for when a fourth part of the earth (population) will be killed. Also Luke chapter 21 and Matthew chapter 24 describes what will happen in the last days. Are we in the last days, all the signs are there that Jesus said to watch for. No man can name the day or hour of Jesus' return to earth but we can know the signs. We can't know the signs if we don't read the bible where those signs are written. Right now, even the churches are closed, is this a fulfillment of the word that says " in the last days there will come a famine, not a famine for food, but a famine for the word". We will have a famine for food too, the locusts in Africa are destroying crops even now. War is an ongoing thing, the climate change that is talked about, the floods, the fires, the drouths, the earthquakes, the volcanoes, the storms, etc. I know, we've had all those things up through history, but as they get closer and closer together, like the birth pains of a woman, you know the time is nigh.

Just be ready. I know some of you think I am too religious, a prophet of doom, but I am only pointing you to the bible and what it says, some don't believe the bible is the word of God, don't even believe there is a God, that I can't do much about, you are free to believe or not believe, I am required to warn those marching toward destruction or else I can be held accountable. I've come to know many of you as friends ( internet friends) and I don't want you to be lost, especially if I didn't tell you the truth.

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Originally Posted by Everett
If it is man made, and it could be, it could be the fulfillment of what Revelations chapter 6 verse 8 ...

Uh, the "plague" doesn't have to be man-made, does it?

Everett: I think most bible readers stick the gospels, acts and the letters from Paul. The book of revelations is too mysterious to be understood by most/all folks.

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. "
End time prophets and book of revelation experts have been around for 2,000 years and they come and go. One day they will be right, but no one has been yet.


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#1162253 - 03/18/20 11:28 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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It's not RevelationS, It's Revelation. The only "sign" given in Matt. 24 is the sign of the Son of Man. Luke 21:8 says to avoid those saying "the time is at hand".

Deut 18:20-22 says false prophets should be put to death.

All those using the Bible to predict doom have been wrong.

I'm not a Bible thumper but I know what it says.

Roy, it sounds like you had the creeping crud and nothing more.

Everett, if the world is being destroyed where you're at, post a photo.

It's early Spring as usual where I am.


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Glad you made it through, Roy. I hope you find some new films to watch!

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My bro sends his regards and wishes you well Roy.

Best, John smile

#1162256 - 03/18/20 11:51 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: couchgrouch]  
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Roy, it sounds like you had the creeping crud and nothing more


I feel much better now that you have put my mind at ease Robert.

Unfortunately, at this time, if its a cold, or flu or corona you get tarred with the same brush. And if you don't self isolate, and get it wrong, you can cause others to become ill.

So whilst to some being laid up for 7 days with a fever and cough is just a creeping crud, I did err on the side of caution, and as there are no tests available to us commoners, I will never know if it was 1 or the other.

I did think it was worse than flu which in my 70 years, I have had a few times before.

God Bless to all

Roy

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#1162257 - 03/18/20 11:53 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Gavin Sinclair]  
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Glad you made it through, Roy. I hope you find some new films to watch!


Thanks Gavin and I will keep watching lol

God Bless

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#1162258 - 03/18/20 11:54 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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My bro sends his regards and wishes you well Roy.

Best, John smile


Thanks John, give him my regards as well.

God Bless

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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
Originally Posted by Everett
If it is man made, and it could be, it could be the fulfillment of what Revelations chapter 6 verse 8 ...

Uh, the "plague" doesn't have to be man-made, does it?

Everett: I think most bible readers stick the gospels, acts and the letters from Paul. The book of revelations is too mysterious to be understood by most/all folks.

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. "
End time prophets and book of revelation experts have been around for 2,000 years and they come and go. One day they will be right, but no one has been yet.


Most of man's troubles comes through the acts of man, no doubt urged on by the enemy, as will be in the end time, but also God's wrath will be poured out on those that oppose Him. If we were not suppose to read the book of Revelation, why does verse 3 say, blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. Sounds to me like we are suppose to read it, no doubt it is not an easy book to understand but it is there for us to read. Maybe as we see it coming about, we will understand it more clearly. God does not waste words and He is not the author of confusion, I doubt if John understood all he was given to write, nor did Daniel when he wrote what he was given to write, the book was to be sealed until the end time when we would understand it. There were many prophecies in the old testament about Jesus coming and dying for the sins of the world, but the Jews did not recognize Jesus as their Messiah when He came (many still don't), but when we read the old testament now, we can see it plainly. The first time I read the bible, I got very little out of it, because I read it mostly to be able to say I read the bible. The bible has to be studied, and the more you read it the more will be revealed to you. Seek and you shall find, knock and it will be opened unto you. The second coming of Jesus is promised in the bible, exactly when it will happen, no one knows, but the final count down couldn't start until the Jews returned to Israel, as they did in 1948, but they didn't gain Jerusalem until 1967, Jesus said that this generation shall not pass away until my return. People have been using this to try and figure out when He will return. It won't work, first, what is a generation, where do you start counting down from, 1948 or 1967. Was it the generation born then that live and average 70 years, Or is it the generation that see the final signs that He said to watch for. We don't know, but we who believe know that He is coming, and hopefully He will find us working and ready and looking for His coming.


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… Sounds to me like we are suppose to read it, no doubt it is not an easy book to understand but it is there for us to read. ...


Sorry, I did not mean DON'T read, of course it should be read. I've read it a few times, even went through the Left Behind series which takes everything literally (I think, it has been a while).
But for day to day living … it is not my go to book!


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#1162265 - 03/19/20 10:31 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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On Mark's explanation... Sent it to my bro - his reply: "Thanks. i'd have to read the rest (200+ pages?)...so far i partially agree w/this person except these things have mutated before (Ebola for ex) from animal to human from my understanding. What he hasn't brought up, which is critical (maybe the entire article does?) which would make his thoughts for me incomplete, is that there appears to be an HIV viral gene component inserted into this particular strain. If that turns out to be true, which i suspect is, then it was genetically engineered by humans.

Who penned this?""

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According to the Scripps Research Institute, the coronavirus was not engineered by humans.

https://www.siasat.com/coronavirus-not-man-made-has-natural-origin-scientists-1861368/


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#1162267 - 03/19/20 10:58 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
On Mark's explanation... Sent it to my bro - his reply: "Thanks. i'd have to read the rest (200+ pages?)...so far i partially agree w/this person except these things have mutated before (Ebola for ex) from animal to human from my understanding. What he hasn't brought up, which is critical (maybe the entire article does?) which would make his thoughts for me incomplete, is that there appears to be an HIV viral gene component inserted into this particular strain. If that turns out to be true, which i suspect is, then it was genetically engineered by humans.

Who penned this?""

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Hi John! It was a Facebook post from an Ohio city health department: https://shelbycityhealth.org/

Listen, no matter how or why Covid-19 originated, we are now in exactly the same position we were in in 1918, when the Spanish Flu swept through the planet. No matter how much technology we gain, plagues work the same way they've worked for centuries, and the response strategies are no different throughout the ages: sheltering in place is eventually the best way to reduce the death toll.

Roy just outlined his UK experience of how quickly we can get boxed out of all the help we always expect from our locality. In Italy, the hospitals are now overwhelmed, and the choices are made not to treat those over 80...who lives and who dies when you don't have enough equipment? It's a choice that must be made when the numbers blossom into catastrophic flower, as it is now doing in America. Two weeks from now look very grim.

Here's a message from Italy: https://www.newsweek.com/young-unaf...QKH0bCoYPMRuyTqfl5jM5TDujTMYJUih1feLCUt0

So listen to the chuckling deniers at your own peril...they're bluffing a weak hand when the cards are already on the table.

#1162268 - 03/19/20 11:14 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Some people change their behavior to avoid getting infected, some people change their behavior to avoid getting people infected, and some people won't change.

#1162270 - 03/19/20 07:32 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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The Wuhan Virus is the same as the Spanish Flu, except for the mortality rate. All Roy's experience taught me is that he probably didn't have it and he's doing fine.

How are Tom and Rita doing? Aside from their idiot son, they're fine. If you get the virus, and are under 70, you might be in for a rough two weeks, same as a bad bout of the flu, or other ailments.

If you're susceptible to media hysteria, you might be prone to run to an er for common symptoms, adding to overcrowding.

One lesson, indiscriminate immigration from certain nations might not be a great idea. Do they eat bat soup? Think about it.

Everette, Revelation primarily applied to Christians in the late first and early second centuries. Some of its symbols are fairly obvious. The seven hills are probably Rome. Much of it can be looked at in different ways.

The events of 1948 etc are nowhere mentioned therein and seeing it in the symbols requires some serious mental gymnastics. And the "generation" scriptures aren't found in Revelation. Most of those obviously applied to the first century.

Care must be exercised to avoid becoming those described in 2 Peter 3:16, twisting the scriprures to our own destruction.

Wash your hands, practice good hygiene and ignore 99% of the media. Except for Debra Messing...she's completely lucid.

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3) The Will to Be

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#1162271 - 03/19/20 07:38 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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There seems to be more at play than taking preventions or if there is the right shot. I have always been a germaphobe and will wash my hands after touching money and door handles. All there looks to be so far from the goverment is social isolation and so many people in one place. That is pretty grim.
There may be a shot that is given to people with what was used originally when they travel in the works for now. But what could happen with the pandemic seems pretty unavoidable. The thought of having to live without certain products (like toilet paper) like our ancestors. Perhaps there is an upside to that.
A lot of personal income will also be saved.


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Here's my prediction: within one month, US hospitals are going to be overwhelmed in a way you've never seen in your lifetime, by patients in real need, leading us to make hard choices about who gets life-saving treatment and who does not get life-saving treatment.

If I'm wrong, I'll come back and admit it, and I'll say I was hysterical. And if I'm right, I will wish I was not.

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Newly available data suggests it's ALREADY much, much worse. Bono has released a song about it...


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1) Americana

2) Teenage Graceland

3) The Will to Be

4) Fort Mystery

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#1162279 - 03/20/20 02:45 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Mark, this article from the NYT makes for interesting reading.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/20/...k&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage


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#1162281 - 03/21/20 07:21 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Interesting but scary read. A US blessing could become a curse. You are blessed with warm weather down South which draws many people from Northern climates to vacation on the beaches, to escape the winter for a few weeks or months. Especially the young college students when they get their March break. They head South to party on the beaches, they think they are invincible and are not afraid of the virus. Even being young with good immune systems, they can bring back the virus to their older love ones at home. Canada has imposed a 14 day isolation period on anyone entering Canada, even from the States. If this is not the big virus of end times ( I hope not) it may be just bad enough to wake us out of our slumber to be more prepared for the next pandemic.

I have not heard much from Russia or North Korea. Either they don't have much virus there or they are keeping it quiet.

#1162282 - 03/21/20 09:48 AM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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It was reasonable to dismiss this as another flu, a minor threat, media hyped, say, two weeks ago. Trump himself downplayed it early, and has since taken it very seriously. I suspected media hype as well.

Now? A national emergency has been called, and Trump has a trillion dollar plan in order. Which, who spends a trillion dollars for a simple flu? I'm in nj, right near the epicenter, New york.

Would you explain now, how all business are being shutdown, they are ordering hundreds of thousands of respirators, and tests, and opening testing centers in parking lots state wide.

One family in NJ lost 4 family members,in back to back days cause of corona virus.

Trump is planning on mailing checks to people for lost wages and work and to stimulate the economy.

True,not a big amount of people die, but that doesn't mean you want it, or want to test how deadly it can be. It can permanently damage the lungs. And who needs the flu AND, this at the same time.

I don't have as grim of an outlook as Mark does, but I wouldnt announce non belief in this virus

And why all this movement in society for something that is an overblown media show? We don't know what this virus can do yet. No sports, no concerts, no live tv, no movies, no eating out, no shopping. The Dow is down, unemployment is way up.

Be smart, and educate when you need to. We're dealing with an unknown.

Either way, believe it or not, we have a massive problem. Financially, socially and emotionally.

#1162286 - 03/21/20 04:06 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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No one knows which way this virus will jump. It might fizzle out or become one like the black plague. We are so mobile these day which takes the virus to all the world in a short time. It is better to be over cautious than careless. We can recover from the economic hit but if we lose millions of people in the mean time, it will make the economic hit even longer and harder to recover from, plus those we lose are gone forever. The young people have to wise up because they may be the ones to spread it to their love one. So far they don't seem to take it seriously, but younger people are now starting to die from it. It might mutate in the young and become its main target.

#1162301 - 03/22/20 02:43 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Millions of people?? This is hysterical nonsense.

In related news, Idris Elba just posted a video of himself rapping about having the virus.


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#1162303 - 03/22/20 03:34 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Couchgrouch, millions no, massive cost, massive toll in hospitals, the economy?


The number doesn't matter. We dont have enough money or space to treat everybody who gets it. It affects people giving birth, people having heart attacks, strokes, regular flu.

Layoffs,lockdowns. Why is this so funny to you? If you have any issues,you might not get treatment.

Maybe you aren't in a hot spot, but we're tallying 500 new cases everyday. We're do they all go? They are turning the Jacob javitz center into a make shift hospital.

But how do you know more than Trump and the cdc? I thought you loved Trump? Why are you laughing at him spending trillions seriously?

National debt? Good luck with that, draining the swamp?

I can't even bet a ballgame cause there are none.

It's bad, this just in.

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#1162304 - 03/22/20 06:46 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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This is no joke. It is a global pandemic. Yes, it will pass, but only if folks are sensible.

It's kill rate is over 4%, and rising. We do not have the medical resources to treat large numbers of critical patients.

Bunker down and be kind to your neighbours.

cheers, niteshift

#1162305 - 03/22/20 08:55 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Roy, how are you doing?

#1162306 - 03/22/20 09:05 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: niteshift]  
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Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
Roy, how are you doing?

Thanks Gavin. I am OK.

Originally Posted by niteshift
This is no joke. It is a global pandemic. Yes, it will pass, but only if folks are sensible.niteshift


My sentiments exactly. Having fully recovered from whatever I had, I then had the job of finding everyday essentials.

The stores are almost empty of stock due to stockpiling, although my local Asda (Walmart) thankfully allowed us over 70s to have the first hour of opening times to ourselves, and I am sorted for the next week. Albeit just essentials.

I could have over stocked on some essentials, but resisted it, as I think we are all in this together.

I saw the video of a front line nurse in the news and it turned me to tears. My daughter is a front line doctor who tells me that It is worse than we know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmSPOSGpAYs

It doesn't take much to imagine the virus mutating or another coming along where the survival rate and mortality rate are reversed and age will not be a consideration.

This may be a test run on how we as a human race react to such a thing, and while so many are making sacrifices, too may are IMO acting totally selfish.
I am OK now, but who knows the future.

God Bless to all

Roy


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#1162307 - 03/22/20 09:05 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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Idris Elba DID post a video of himself rapping. Rita Wilson just did, too. My post above was no joke. Bono is a joke.

The overwhelming majority of those who have died already had extreme health issues. Italy's average age is 80s and 90s.

I was in line outside a supermarket and people were baffled at the hysterical response. The damage to the economy is real so I'll cash my check and be grateful for it.

I've never said I loved Trump. At any time. I have grown to despise the media.

And I still think bat soup is a bad idea.

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Amazon Kindle books by Robert George you may enjoy:

1) Americana

2) Teenage Graceland

3) The Will to Be

4) Fort Mystery

5) Wheel Sea

6) My One True Love
#1162308 - 03/22/20 10:27 PM Re: In reply to John's shout out.. corona virus [Re: Roy Cooper]  
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CG, dying isn't the whole story. How bout being incapacitated for 14 days, how bout recovering but needing rescue inhalers and oxygen for rest of your life. This can be an overpowering illness for some, we don't know who it will be.

Anybody on arthritis meds, lupus meds, organ transplant meds can easily get and pass it on.

Why is so deadly to some and a nuisance to others we don't know. They think blood type makes some more prone

I agree people buying the entire grocery aisle is over reacting, and I think shows like walking dead influence some.

It's not that dismal, but it's one of the most depressing times for me I can think of. I've never seen society like this before.

To all stop over reacting, but also stop listening to rush limbaugh


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