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#1155942 - 08/19/19 06:52 AM Copyright law  
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I have a question on copyright law. I'm no expert but I thought when a song is published for public consumption that the title of the song and the writer's name and copyright owner's name had to appear somewhere on the lyric/music sheet or overhead and on any saleable item like CD etc. Am I wrong or right.?

#1155949 - 08/19/19 10:21 AM Re: Copyright law [Re: Everett Adams]  
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To be sure you need to go to the U.S. Copyright Web Site and read thru what is posted. It is a simple thing to put the Copyright Symbol on a lyric sheet and in other places. If someone is going to cover or record an original song they probably would already know who the copyright owner was. The nice thing about the U.S. Copyright Law, you don't have to be a citizen to register your songs.

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#1155950 - 08/19/19 10:28 AM Re: Copyright law [Re: Everett Adams]  
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The copyright symbol is no longer required. It's optional.

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#1155951 - 08/19/19 04:19 PM Re: Copyright law [Re: Everett Adams]  
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This horse has a mouth: www.copyright.gov

Transitioning from Songwriting hobbyist, avocation, to Songwriting 'company', vocation, means it's time to study something about the commercial aspects of the 'biz'.

Copyright law is federal, so the .gov address can answer most of your questions and give you a place to study and know for yourself how the law works. I've even spoken with employees by phone to clarify obscure issues.

The more you know the more you can help your lawyer, if such need arises. Copyright law has nuances different from criminal or commercial law. Some lawyers specialize in each discipline, to the exclusion of others. Those specializing in Entertainment Law should know the nuances of that area. Almost any lawyer is better than none.

I recommend putting your copyright notice on any publication where you are giving 'access' to others. That term, 'access', is what you would have to prove in a federal courtroom to begin a complaint of 'infringement' on your 'intellectual property' (IP). How did the thief have access to steal your intellectual property?

Without formal document 'Registration' with the U. S. Register of Copyrights at the Library of Congress you cannot get on the docket in federal court, where federal copyright law is heard. Once you begin to 'do business', to engage contractually with someone to legally use your intellectual property...Let's capitalize "Intellectual Property"...they will want to know that you yourself have legal authority to control that property, to authorize by your signature their 'right' to 'copy' it and take it to market. If you don't, the deal comes to a screeching halt, until you do get the product Registered and can show them the document. Registration is effective the date the Registration application is received by the Register of Copyrights, but you may wait days, weeks, months for a document. I waited 84 days, once. With digitization they may be more electronically competent now to enable expediting your commercial need for documentation. I don't know. www.copyright.gov does know.

Even without formal Registration the notice that you claim your exclusive 'right' to 'copy' your intellectual property is a simple legal formality, giving those with access notice, that may prove invaluable in court, should infringement ever occur. We see daily how thieves with good lawyers get away with robbing people in numerous ways, so we know there are thieves afoot, at large, among us, watching for their opportunity. We buy gas caps that lock on our cars so we can keep the gas we paid for. We lock the doors of our cars and homes and garages and workplaces to keep the things we've bought, and our lives functioning in our bodies. Copyright claim is a 'lock' of sorts, even without the formal Registration that gives you two strong legs to stand on in court should anyone infringe on your right to copy your intellectual property.

It's easy. Why not do it? What advantage is there in NOT putting your copyright notice on your works, wherever you give 'access' to them? And, when things start happening on any given work, it's a good investment to go forward with Registration.

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#1155960 - 08/20/19 08:27 AM Re: Copyright law [Re: Everett Adams]  
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The reason I ask is, of late, in church, I notice on the overhead where the lyrics are shown, there is no title, no notice of copyright, no CCLI number of the song. There use to be. I even emailed CCLI to ask if there had been any change in requirement to show this information. They said there had been no change in policy. I took that to mean if it was required before, it was still required. I had occasion to visit another church and they had that info showing on their overhead. I guess I am going to have to ask my pastor why they are breaking the law if there is still a law to show this. I just like to know the title of the song and also the writer of said song. That way I can search for it on the net if I want to for any reason.

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