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#1154961 - 07/07/19 01:43 PM STAND UP. Vic  
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Just finished this one. I was one of them that stood in the back row.
Not sure what the genre is. Maybe Americana or folk rock. Not sure.
Maybe you all will have different ideas like myself.

Here's the link: https://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold/stand-up

Stand Up © 2019 Vic Arnold
V1
You made your choice. Took the back row.
Now you're drowning in that undertow.
Time to seize the day in every single way
Ch.
And stand up. Stand up.
This ain't no time to lay down.
V2
You watch it all... from your safe place
Run away .... hide your face
No one ever sees the person you could be
Ch.
So stand up. Stand up.
This ain't no time to lay down.
Inst.
Br.
Makes no difference who they are.
What they say.
Words can never kill you.
Ch.
So stand up. Stand up.
This ain't no time to lay down.

This is war. This is war.
So stand up. Stand up. Stand up.


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1154965 - 07/07/19 03:39 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Stand Up has a quality, an aura about it, enhanced by that unique vocal you personify, Vic. The genre is pure Vic... but Americana, Folk or Alt. Country all work well. Great fiddle in the middle break and the banjo I believe I heard was not over-stated. Enjoyed, my talented friend.

#1154967 - 07/07/19 04:00 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Vic,

I try to stay away from the "folk-rock" category (even when it fits) cuz it's considered 70s and unhip, whereas Americana covers the same territory but carries less negative baggage. Though try asking 10 people exactly what "Americana" is, and you'll get 10 different responses.

I love this lyric. You tread a fine line and find the perfect words--this is a case where a little vagueness works to your advantage--and it works to make a strongly charged statement without being offensive, yet might help tip the scale with some folks who've used their silence like a shield when they actually had something important to say, to make a difference like that. You did it without making anyone ashamed of being a little cowardly, just strongly inferred that maybe NOW..maybe in these times we're living, it might be time to speak up..and that speaks to me greatly..I may get your lyric a tad different than you intended, but I'm sure you are okay with that. In particualr I read "war" metaphorically, as in, you're saying that this is important stuff, so don't back down..

I thought musically it was nice and could imagine a version bumped to a faster tempo and in a slightly higher key, making you "go for it" with the higher notes, which would bring even more passion into your lead vox.

Loved it. smile

Mike

Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 07/07/19 04:22 PM.

Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon)
from the song "Songs of Love"
from the album "Casanova" (1996)
#1154968 - 07/07/19 04:17 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Hi Dave.
First let me thank you for your always encouraging comments.
I get stuck on genres as there are so many so I don't tend to think of them when I write.
Whatever it comes out as initially is usually what I go with.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1154969 - 07/07/19 04:44 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Mike.
I thank you for the same reasons I gave Dave.

Yes, you have a point about "Folk Rock". I'll stick with "Americana".

You're spot on with the lyric's meaning.
Strange thing, just as I wrote it an ad came on TV with a sad looking young child thinking loudly to himself, "sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me".
The message was "Oh yes they will", but how does that help the child?.

Thanks again.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1154972 - 07/07/19 05:51 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Yep..... I could definitely get behind that smile

#1154974 - 07/07/19 06:37 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Good song, well delivered, Vic. I agree with Mike that the combination of a certain vagueness with a clear call to action works in its favor. The listener can project his own interpretation onto the reasons he should stand up - but you are definitely telling him that he needs to do so.

Also, like Mike, I wonder what this would be like at a slightly faster tempo and higher key. Not that it ain't good the way it is.

#1154976 - 07/07/19 08:06 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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What is the proper etiquette when it seems two writers are definitely on the same "wavelength" and have basically written the same song? smile

#1154978 - 07/08/19 06:26 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: JAPOV]  
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That makes two of us at least then, Tony.
Thanks.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1154979 - 07/08/19 06:40 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Gavin Sinclair]  
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Hi Gavin.
Thank you. I prefer readers to interpret a song in their own way so that seems to have worked ok.

As for the tempo and key, I did try it slightly faster and came to the conclusion it sounded a little too jolly (although just 5bpm may be ok) but maybe that's because I'm a bit of a doom merchant.
If I sang it in a higher key I couldn't hit the high notes in the backing vocals and processing with V Vocal or Melodyne would introduce Donald Duck to the band.

Thanks again for the comments.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1154982 - 07/08/19 09:31 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: JAPOV]  
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Beats me, Tony.
Are you talking of this song?

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1155001 - 07/08/19 05:21 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Originally Posted by Vicarn
Beats me, Tony.
Are you talking of this song?

Vic


I donít know how appropriate this is but, I really REALLY do like your song! lol........ smile

https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v4/player.cfm?songID=13898696

#1155015 - 07/09/19 07:50 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: JAPOV]  
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Hey Tony.
That's not bad at all.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1155016 - 07/09/19 08:19 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Great minds, right? smile

#1155030 - 07/09/19 10:40 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: JAPOV]  
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Modesty forbids.
blush


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1155059 - 07/09/19 11:25 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Powerful and meaningful song and damn the genre. Why do we label everything and file it under categories some will never bother to listen to??? This song can apply to anyone who has settled into a routine, become a silent majority, chosen to just be part of the crowd. Letting injustice go on all around them'
The Helen Keller Syndrome....I don't work like that and I won't go outl ike that.
Superb work Vic....

#1155061 - 07/09/19 11:51 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Originally Posted by Vicarn
Modesty forbids.
blush


I sincerely hope you donít believe I'm just trying to upstage you on this... I debated whether or not to start a new thread but I didnít want this to turn into a comparative/competitive thing..... I truly believe the concept is solid and should be explored...

#1155071 - 07/10/19 06:00 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: JAPOV]  
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Not at all. I was flattered.
I could see our lyrical thoughts were on the same track.
I couldn't make out all the lyrics but I particularly liked "Temperance is no excuse for complacency". Nice one.


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1155092 - 07/10/19 12:07 PM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: MFB III]  
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Hi there MFBIII.
I'm with you on genres. Those upload sites like Soundcloud, Soundclick etc., insist that you tick a genre in the little box.
Maybe next time I'll enter "Vicarna".

Thanks for the response.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1155117 - 07/11/19 05:00 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Hi Vic,


You're sounding good.


Calvin


http://www.soundclick.com/bands/0/calvinstewart

#1155130 - 07/11/19 10:31 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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Thanks Calvin.

Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold

#1155316 - 07/17/19 03:15 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Vicarn]  
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For some reason thought of Chris Rea when i heard this Vic.
Good solid intro, and another fine production and all round top notch song
Regards
John


We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars. Oscar Wilde
#1155322 - 07/17/19 06:23 AM Re: Stand Up. Vic [Re: Travis david]  
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Hi Travis.
I see you're back from dry land.
Yes. Sort of "Road to Hell" style about it. Not intentional but it worked out that way.

Thanks.
Vic


It's never too late? Yes it is, so do it now.

If, given time, a monkey can write the complete works of Shakespeare maybe there's hope for me.

http://store.cdbaby.com/cd/vicarnold2

http://www.soundclick.com/vicarnold

http://soundcloud.com/vic-arnold


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