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#1152908 - 04/24/19 03:41 AM B  
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Last edited by Gary E. Andrews; 06/08/19 04:27 PM.

There will always be another song to be written. Someone will write it. Why not you? www.garyeandrews.com
#1152962 - 04/25/19 11:58 AM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Yeah, Gary:

I get the same dipshit propaganda from ASCAP on a daily basis during the week. Miles and miles of nothing but pure drivel from these pukes who are only in it for the money. My advice to anyone entering the "Music Arena"... don't bother with the big two. Do your own thing 'cause all these bozos want to do is raid Mom and Pop establishments and hit them up for money if they play music for their clients.

Support? Non-existent unless you are somebody with a massive following and a very large bankroll.

Then there is the constant bombardment about attending some "learn music" fest and let some other failure tell you about how to write songs and become a "star." No thanks. Big waste of time. I'm considering pulling my catalog registrations. You will learn a great deal more by just hanging around JPF... and make your own contributions with donations, your thoughts and your music... or just "lurk and learn"... it's free!

----Dave

#1152987 - 04/26/19 09:47 AM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Last edited by Gary E. Andrews; 06/08/19 08:05 AM.

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#1152999 - 04/26/19 04:26 PM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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"Yes, Performance Rights Organizations are only in it to handle collection of Royalties - Gary"

Yes, that's the reason they exist. I must say, they do a great job at collecting royalties and posting cue sheets. I have no complaints. And yes Dave, they expect the mom & pop establishments to pay for music. Mom & Pop are okay with paying for everything else, why not music? Though I may be a bit prejudiced.

John smile

#1153000 - 04/26/19 04:36 PM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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My "bitch" with ASCAP is that they keep changing the rules of the "game" and tend to follow the socialist line of politics. At one time, they had a massive A&R group, staff writers... and stipends for upcoming writers and artists. Not any more... and I understand that. The internet has bludgeoned many music organizations.

About six months ago, they began to support the "party line" favoring "streaming" which pays those at the bottom of the food chain significantly less than the old system. They also supported the Library of Congress' new Head Woman and extended copyright protection to a gazillion old, old songs that were about to be eligible for public domain. Being able to include a "freebie" PD song in an album was sometimes a real boon to the artist and his team, trying to reach the bottom rung. I had a couple picked out, recorded and ready for the date of copyright expiration. I had worked on some interesting arrangements to spice up these numbers and attempt to make them sound a bit more "today!"... but no, these Cretins had to go and pull the rug out from under us. Now, I can enjoy them in my living room or studio as an audience of one. Crap... that burned me to a crisp!

Back under the house... same game!

#1153001 - 04/26/19 05:45 PM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Yeah, where ever there's money, there's corruption. I'm still baffled how ASCAP knows where my music is being streamed.

Best, John smile

#1153012 - 04/26/19 11:34 PM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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I find that it helps to let off steam every now and then. My wounded ego quickly heals and it never dampens my desire to write that one song... vaulting me (through a cover by somebody with real talent) into the record books for my kids, grand-children and great-grand-children to be able to remember me by.

#1153025 - 04/27/19 10:43 AM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Yes Dave, letting off steam is always part of my therapy for patients. I kind of enjoy pushing them to their boiling points. And then a little further.

John smile

#1153035 - 04/27/19 11:19 PM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Panera's is the only consolation for my condition. Can you obtain an "out of asylum visit pass" for me, Dr. Schick?
I might even spring for one of their soup and salad "take outs" for you as a bribe! Now back to the Eleventh Concerto in B Flat Minor I've been working on for 15 years. It is beginning to take shape but the 500 piece orchestral arrangement is beginning to be a bit difficult. Fear not, genius will eventually prevail... and the world will be a better place. I shant register it with ASCAP, though. As a matter of fact, I'm looking at the Bolivian Pro Organization seriously. They could use a boost. Know anyone there?

#1153038 - 04/28/19 10:37 AM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Humm,
I may not remember for sure but I think the Copyright Law was changed because Disney was trying to protect their creations as someone was wanting to re-produce and sell them as they were now in public domain.A song may be used if a copyright owner refuses to issue a mechanical license. After a song is published, (Recorded and Released) anyone can record and release the song by obtaining a Compulsory License if the copyright owner refuses to issue a license from the Copyright Office. If that happens the person obtaining the license has to pay the full mechanical rate. So it's the law Dave, not ASCAP or other Pro's.


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#1153096 - 05/02/19 12:20 AM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Yeah, Gary:

I get the same dipshit propaganda from ASCAP on a daily basis during the week. Miles and miles of nothing but pure drivel from these pukes who are only in it for the money. My advice to anyone entering the "Music Arena"... don't bother with the big two. Do your own thing 'cause all these bozos want to do is raid Mom and Pop establishments and hit them up for money if they play music for their clients.

Support? Non-existent unless you are somebody with a massive following and a very large bankroll.

Then there is the constant bombardment about attending some "learn music" fest and let some other failure tell you about how to write songs and become a "star." No thanks. Big waste of time. I'm considering pulling my catalog registrations. You will learn a great deal more by just hanging around JPF... and make your own contributions with donations, your thoughts and your music... or just "lurk and learn"... it's free!

----Dave



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#1153097 - 05/02/19 12:40 AM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
"Yes, Performance Rights Organizations are only in it to handle collection of Royalties - Gary"

Yes, that's the reason they exist. I must say, they do a great job at collecting royalties and posting cue sheets. I have no complaints. And yes Dave, they expect the mom & pop establishments to pay for music. Mom & Pop are okay with paying for everything else, why not music? Though I may be a bit prejudiced.

John smile




John, everything you say is true but I think the reason hammering Mom and Pop's are an issue is that while doing that, they completely abdicate their responsibility to help ensure companies like Spotify and iTunes and Pandora play a fair rate to their members. Instead they play big boy politics which enrich executives and offer special "deals" to labels and publishers who get paid off with stock in the companies if they keep royalties down and the artists/writers (often one in the same) get HOSED because they do not get a piece of that stock share. So labels/publishers will cash in and keep that money once those companies become valuable on the raping of the people that PRO's are supposed to be watching out for (writers) and the same for the entities that are supposed to represent artists (like SoundExchange etc.) It is one big scam and it is all hidden behind the scenes and out of reach to those being wronged. Your rate should be at least 3-4 times higher than it is on just about everything used by tech companies like Spotify John. Pandora said if the rates didn't get cut from where they currently are that they would be put out of business within the year. That was many years ago. It's a scam and a disgrace. Just like the fact that inflation is much higher than the fudged numbers indicate and while they lie to us all we need to do is look to the cost of food at the grocery store to see the lie. Our prices have gone up nearly 50% in the past 3 years at the grocery and we eat pretty much the same pattern of food and have for decades.


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#1153112 - 05/02/19 07:40 PM Re: BMI: The Weekly. Mad Decent Publishing [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Sorry for the rant, Brian:

Not that I did not believe the message I delivered... I should have said it a little more politely. Thanks for understanding my frustration.

Regards, ----Dave


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