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#1152533 - 04/09/19 10:42 AM
Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening?
[Re: Gary E. Andrews]
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Fdemetrio
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I think its simply that music is considered free, i dont think anybody buys anything any more. I recall Roger Daltry, one of the biggest rock icons of our times saying he wasnt going to release any new albums because nobody is buying them. So what chance does an indie have?
Most millenials have no idea what its like to have to buy music. They were born into a world where music being free was the norm. and once that Genie's out of the bottle it aint going back in. I can hear any song i want, even the most obscure song right now in 5 seconds for free.
Now, that MIGHT change if artists got away from singles and started making full length albums, and included stuff like a shot at a free ticket to a show, or a free back stage pass, etc, and if the albums were concept albums, where all the songs fit the whole, it might make sense to buy the whole thing in one shot. But with the focus on singles, why would you need the hear anything else, the hit single is all there is.
But in reality, as a fan of music, it couldnt be a better time for the LISTENER. I can only imagine if i had acces to every song ever made when I was in school. I had to use my paper route money to buy my absolute favorite music. So, i also couldnt hear 1% of what i can hear now, so it creates a bigger audience for artists, there's just no money in it.
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#1152542 - 04/09/19 12:05 PM
Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening?
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Ray E. Strode
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Well,
It has been well known for some time that the Bigger Labels want the Artist to write their own songs because they don't want to pay the full Mechanical License or in some cases no mechanical fees whatsoever. Practically no Major Artists from the past wrote their own songs. Some of the biggest artists didn't write anything, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Webb. So when everything sounds the same there is probably a reason for it.
Ray E. Strode
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#1152612 - 04/11/19 05:40 PM
Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening?
[Re: Gary E. Andrews]
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Marc Barnette
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Anyone who has been paying attention to anything over the past few years is that millenials and ANYONE are not paying for music, and pretty much don't want to pay for ANYTHING. It's happening in all forms of entertainment, movies, television, all genres. They have DJ'S in pop, rock and hip hop that draw as many as some of the big bands or artists. Music is no longer in the FOREFRONT of people's attention. It is something in the background, and the BEATLES THEMSELVES could come out now and would not have the same impact on the culture they did in 64'. Life is to displaced and no one thing gets attention past a momentary flash in the viral universe.
You actually can't even judge modern music against the past. The eras have simply changed. Shorter attention spans, less dedication to any one song or artist. It's all fleeting and "just something else that's out there in this minute.:" And yes, we can all bemoan what we feel the lack of quality is, and there is plenty of truth in that, but the fact is that NOTHING is going to catch and keep the attention of the listeners of today or the future. And when you get endless supplies of anything, instantly, effortlessly, and for FREE, you are never going to have ratings, or money.
An unfortunate element of today's culture, but it is what it is.
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#1152623 - 04/12/19 01:15 AM
Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening?
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Brian Austin Whitney
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I see this from Yahoo News. I haven't looked around to see if anybody else is carrying the story. Never trust one source.
QUOTE:
The ACM Awards hit an all-time low in the key adults 18-49 demographic with its 54th annual ceremony, broadcast on CBS Sunday night, which also pulled in the event’s lowest total-viewer tally in 12 years.The Reba McEntire-hosted awards show put up a 1.6 rating in the advertiser-coveted demo for the evening — its lowest on record — and brought in 9.903 million viewers, which is the smallest overall-eyeball count it’s hit since the 2007 ceremony posted 9.275 million.
The ACMs were also down 24 percent in the 18-49 range and 18 percent in total viewers vs. last year’s show.
However, the telecast’s Nielsen numbers still handed CBS first place in both measures for the evening.CBS was first in ratings with a 1.4 rating/7 share in the advertiser-coveted 18-49 demographic and in total viewers with an average of 9.8 million, according to preliminary numbers.
Read original story Ratings: ACM Awards on CBS Fall to All-Time Low in Key Demo At TheWrap.
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So, if I'm reading it right the 'market', the young people with money in their pockets for music, didn't tune in as fans. They may be buying product, streaming, downloads, hard copy CD's, vinyls. I don't know. They may be buying tickets. I don't know. But as 'fans', wanting to see their favorite singers/players in the Country Music biz, they tuned out.
Spring is here. It was awfully nice out in many places and, "Little Darlin', it's been a long, cold, lonely winter." Maybe they opted to just 'be' somewhere else.
There are "Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on," so maybe they watched the nothin' on some other channel.
But...maybe...just maybe...the music just isn't 'hooking' them. And so they're keeping their money in their pockets, or, horror of horrors, spending it elsewhere, terror of terrors, on some other genre of music.
I just wonder what the real reason is for 'staying away in droves'. You can bet lots of people for whom marketing country music is their profession, they're scratching their heads trying to get the wheels turning to figure out why, and planning what to do about it.
My advice: Make better music. Not that what they played last night wasn't any good. I couldn't hear the vocals well enough to get the words. But that may be just me. All music is hit and miss with audiences. But I think the doors are opening again. The Artist & Repertoire man/woman is coming out of the office, going out to venues, listening to music, trying to find authentic Songs by authentic Songwriters, trying to find new artists with a product those 18-49'ers will mine gold for. The competition is on. Everybody better step up their game or next year the story may be a rerun, 58 channels, and nothin' on.
People are tired of Awards shows that featured bought and paid for awards given to people who see it as a business plan and not art. They don't care about fake awards shows anymore. They've lost the truth of the viewers to see honest praise based on merit given to deserving material and not a stock bump move.
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#1152710 - 04/15/19 11:04 AM
Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening?
[Re: Michael LeBlanc]
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Fdemetrio
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if singles are what folks are looking for,then write 12 great singles and put them on an album,no filler,all killer.Don't get lazy. Most people dont even have one good single!!! My idea is/was to have concept albums, or at least musical pieces that intersect with tne next song, so that there is no track 1, track 2... easy to split up and put online alone, if three or four songs were all joined at the hip, then they would have to split the tracks and lose some of the music, or at least not get smooth seques. Im sure people who dont buy music probably dont care if the songs come broken in two or three, but some may
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 04/15/19 12:11 PM.
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