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#1152529 - 04/08/19 05:52 PM W  
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#1152532 - 04/09/19 05:55 AM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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I listen to some sample of all twelve songs on an artist CD on the net and they all sounded the same. There was not a mixture of tempos, all were in the same tempo except for maybe one song, they had basically the same tune, same instruments and little if any story to the songs, and that was a country CD. It was boring.

#1152533 - 04/09/19 09:42 AM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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I think its simply that music is considered free, i dont think anybody buys anything any more. I recall Roger Daltry, one of the biggest rock icons of our times saying he wasnt going to release any new albums because nobody is buying them. So what chance does an indie have?

Most millenials have no idea what its like to have to buy music. They were born into a world where music being free was the norm. and once that Genie's out of the bottle it aint going back in. I can hear any song i want, even the most obscure song right now in 5 seconds for free.

Now, that MIGHT change if artists got away from singles and started making full length albums, and included stuff like a shot at a free ticket to a show, or a free back stage pass, etc, and if the albums were concept albums, where all the songs fit the whole, it might make sense to buy the whole thing in one shot. But with the focus on singles, why would you need the hear anything else, the hit single is all there is.

But in reality, as a fan of music, it couldnt be a better time for the LISTENER. I can only imagine if i had acces to every song ever made when I was in school. I had to use my paper route money to buy my absolute favorite music. So, i also couldnt hear 1% of what i can hear now, so it creates a bigger audience for artists, there's just no money in it.




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#1152541 - 04/09/19 10:55 AM R [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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#1152542 - 04/09/19 11:05 AM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Well,
It has been well known for some time that the Bigger Labels want the Artist to write their own songs because they don't want to pay the full Mechanical License or in some cases no mechanical fees whatsoever. Practically no Major Artists from the past wrote their own songs. Some of the biggest artists didn't write anything, Frank Sinatra, Elvis, Webb. So when everything sounds the same there is probably a reason for it.


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#1152612 - 04/11/19 04:40 PM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Anyone who has been paying attention to anything over the past few years is that millenials and ANYONE are not paying for music, and pretty much don't want to pay for ANYTHING. It's happening in all forms of entertainment, movies, television, all genres. They have DJ'S in pop, rock and hip hop that draw as many as some of the big bands or artists. Music is no longer in the FOREFRONT of people's attention. It is something in the background, and the BEATLES THEMSELVES could come out now and would not have the same impact on the culture they did in 64'. Life is to displaced and no one thing gets attention past a momentary flash in the viral universe.

You actually can't even judge modern music against the past. The eras have simply changed. Shorter attention spans, less dedication to any one song or artist. It's all fleeting and "just something else that's out there in this minute.:" And yes, we can all bemoan what we feel the lack of quality is, and there is plenty of truth in that, but the fact is that NOTHING is going to catch and keep the attention of the listeners of today or the future. And when you get endless supplies of anything, instantly, effortlessly, and for FREE, you are never going to have ratings, or money.

An unfortunate element of today's culture, but it is what it is.

#1152623 - 04/12/19 12:15 AM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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Originally Posted by Gary E. Andrews
I see this from Yahoo News. I haven't looked around to see if anybody else is carrying the story. Never trust one source.

QUOTE:
The ACM Awards hit an all-time low in the key adults 18-49 demographic with its 54th annual ceremony, broadcast on CBS Sunday night, which also pulled in the event’s lowest total-viewer tally in 12 years.The Reba McEntire-hosted awards show put up a 1.6 rating in the advertiser-coveted demo for the evening — its lowest on record — and brought in 9.903 million viewers, which is the smallest overall-eyeball count it’s hit since the 2007 ceremony posted 9.275 million.
The ACMs were also down 24 percent in the 18-49 range and 18 percent in total viewers vs. last year’s show.
However, the telecast’s Nielsen numbers still handed CBS first place in both measures for the evening.CBS was first in ratings with a 1.4 rating/7 share in the advertiser-coveted 18-49 demographic and in total viewers with an average of 9.8 million, according to preliminary numbers.
Read original story Ratings: ACM Awards on CBS Fall to All-Time Low in Key Demo At TheWrap.
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So, if I'm reading it right the 'market', the young people with money in their pockets for music, didn't tune in as fans. They may be buying product, streaming, downloads, hard copy CD's, vinyls. I don't know. They may be buying tickets. I don't know. But as 'fans', wanting to see their favorite singers/players in the Country Music biz, they tuned out.
Spring is here. It was awfully nice out in many places and, "Little Darlin', it's been a long, cold, lonely winter." Maybe they opted to just 'be' somewhere else.
There are "Fifty-seven channels and nothin' on," so maybe they watched the nothin' on some other channel.

But...maybe...just maybe...the music just isn't 'hooking' them. And so they're keeping their money in their pockets, or, horror of horrors, spending it elsewhere, terror of terrors, on some other genre of music.

I just wonder what the real reason is for 'staying away in droves'. You can bet lots of people for whom marketing country music is their profession, they're scratching their heads trying to get the wheels turning to figure out why, and planning what to do about it.

My advice: Make better music. Not that what they played last night wasn't any good. I couldn't hear the vocals well enough to get the words. But that may be just me. All music is hit and miss with audiences. But I think the doors are opening again. The Artist & Repertoire man/woman is coming out of the office, going out to venues, listening to music, trying to find authentic Songs by authentic Songwriters, trying to find new artists with a product those 18-49'ers will mine gold for. The competition is on. Everybody better step up their game or next year the story may be a rerun, 58 channels, and nothin' on.


People are tired of Awards shows that featured bought and paid for awards given to people who see it as a business plan and not art. They don't care about fake awards shows anymore. They've lost the truth of the viewers to see honest praise based on merit given to deserving material and not a stock bump move.


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#1152650 - 04/13/19 06:52 AM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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I wonder what would happen if all music was banned every where for one year. Would people miss it? Would that search it out illegally like they did alcohol in the probation years. You never miss water until the well goes dry. You don't appreciate electricity until the power goes off. Will they crave new music the same way when it is not available?

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#1152709 - 04/15/19 09:55 AM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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if singles are what folks are looking for,then write 12 great singles and put them on an album,no filler,all killer.Don't get lazy.

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Originally Posted by Michael LeBlanc
if singles are what folks are looking for,then write 12 great singles and put them on an album,no filler,all killer.Don't get lazy.


Most people dont even have one good single!!!

My idea is/was to have concept albums, or at least musical pieces that intersect with tne next song, so that there is no track 1, track 2... easy to split up and put online alone, if three or four songs were all joined at the hip, then they would have to split the tracks and lose some of the music, or at least not get smooth seques.

Im sure people who dont buy music probably dont care if the songs come broken in two or three, but some may

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#1152811 - 04/19/19 10:27 PM Re: Who's got money for music, and isn't listening? [Re: Gary E. Andrews]  
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As far as I'm concerned, regarding the ACM awards... it ain't Reba's fault! Country is no longer country. I don't buy records, CD's (except for used ones in thrift stores) and streaming is pure manure. If I buy anything... I want a hard copy in my hot little hands to take home and play at my leisure. (Preferably a CD) I don't need some robot suggesting a playlist to me. I consider my "taste" in music unique to me... and until big brother requires me to listen to Elijah Cummings, Adam Schiff or Nancy numb-noodle as I face Mecca... they can all perform the Russian National Anthem by breaking wind in coordinated unison.

Apple sucks, Google isn't much better and that prescription radio service is snot warmed over.

I grew up in the era of Radio and we were free to listen to whatever we liked provided we endure a few commercials. Stations began to seek more audience by telling how many commercials would be played and when it would happen. LOL! The average play vs. commercial ratio at one time was three to one. My uncle used to own a radio station... and it was not affiliated with a collection of stations who played what they were told to play at the exact time required. We played whatever the public called in to request... during the genre hour associated with a particular radio show. So we grew up believing music was more or less free if we would endure a few commercials.

Money was tight but when the 45 record and players came out, they were much more affordable and I would buy this or that whenever my allowance or paper route earnings would allow me that luxury. One thing for sure, Daddy didn't provide me with money to waste on stuff he didn''t think would be good for my immature brain.

I read from the Neilson reports that RAP is the biggest seller/market these days. Not a real good reflection on our National Intellect. The music biz is headed downhill fast... and deservedly so.


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