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It's hard to believe Colin Kaepernick is still inspiring this stuff.

People still believe hes not playing because the NFL banned him. yet, it's the NFL that is allowing all the protesting.

But gee, what will i do if Maroon 5 wont play! Oh yeah, ill watch the game.

Still crunching numbers to see who im taking.

As fixed as the previous games obviously were, it's hard to be excited at all. It was ALWAYS going to be LA/Boston just like Baseball and they are hoping to get it back to Basketball as well with Lebron and his next All Star lineup against the Celtics. Painfully obvious. Small market teams just get hosed. I also think I have figured out how New England is doing it, but I am not going to "go there" here as we don't need the drama.

Well, I hate Tom Brady, but I respect him, clearly the best quarterback to ever put on a helmit. And at 41 years old...

Yeah, there were cheating incidents, but cheating has been a part of sports since it became a business, and probably before that. Im sure some of the Ancient Greeks had tricks up their sleeve to win that big Disc Hurling match.

In baseball they have been stealing signs forever, and then make noise about it when somebody gets caught. Players have been using roids and uppers forever.

Players have been using corked bats, and deflated balls forever.

Brady sees the field better than any QB i can think of barring Peyton Manning. And can find the open receiver better than anyone i ever saw.

He is 41 and playing better than young kids out there. There's no cheating to make a 41 year old man play like a pro bowler

Im sick on seeing him in the superbowl, 9 times in last 18 years. But i cant discount greatness. We wont see a QB like Brady for a long, long time

And if it were me, id want to be there every year too, and wouldn't care who hated me.

Bellichick is a Jerk no doubt about it, and a sore loser, but also one of the great coaches ever

But im leaning with the Rams here. Certainly worth the 3.5 points theyre getting.

They were lucky to be there with that blown call two weeks ago, but the Rams have a few indicators for me that they will win, but ill take the 3.5 points!

I played football in high school, graduating in 1972. My coach wanted to see at least three opposing team players carried off the field every game. He taught us all the injury causing tackles and how to hit areas of the body that would cause a starting player to have to be benched for a while to recover and be replaced by a lesser player. I played defense. The coach did not want to see any opposing player standing after the ball was snapped or there was hell to pay at practice and during review of game films. We were 10-0.

We were the first team to go 14-0 in Indiana history in high school and we only lost in regulation to the state champions of the other 3 years, twice in the playoffs (State Championship and Regionals) and once in the regular season. I think our 4 year record was 47-4. We lost twice my junior year to the State Champion in the reg season (we didn't have automatic playoffs back then, you had to earn it on the field) and lost once in overtime. All that said, our coach was also tough as nails, he was a scout for the NFL, is in the hall of fame for high school coaches etc. He taught us a lot, but he never once, nor anyone else on the staff, suggested we hurt anyone intentionally. He wanted us to "stick them" with a hard, uniform tackle. I actually got in trouble in the Semi-State championship game my senior year because I sacked and knocked out their starting QB (no penalty, clean hit) and then knocked out their back-up as well so they put a Freshman in and I said "okay, 3 for 3" really loud and got in trouble by the ref. He didn't flag me but probably should have as it was not appropriate. We were already up 48-0 and it was An immature thing to say to rub in what had to be traumatic for that team who were also undefeated but we just hammered them. We won the next week in the state championship 7-6 when we had (at that time) a historic passing team and the weather was 40+ mile and hour gusts and -3 degree temperatures. They would never have played that game in this day and age as they don't even let kids go to school in those temps and they play the championship games at Lucas Oil Stadium where the Colts play indoors now. The only time we'd get in trouble is if we had bad form or missed our assignments. I had a lot of individual and team success in football at all levels through college and got invited to try out for the Colts my Senior year in college (I would NOT have made the team and likely would have been sent home after the physicals and basic workout because I wasn't big enough, fast enough or strong enough for that level). That year they invited a lot of local college kids to a special tryout who had been successful and recommended by team coaches and scouts. I was way undersized in college so it was as good as I could do to have caught even minimal attention of the local pro team. This was late 80's and much had changed already from the early 70's Perry. I heard similar stories from the older guys who came around to our team who played in those era's and it sounded much the same.

The NFL today is a different game. Though they hit hard, the viciousness once needed to play the game is gone. Think 70's Steelers and Raiders.

Brian

The game has changed immensely. The main way is that the second the ball is in the air everybody is looking for a flag. Pass interference is called way too much, and that makes last weeks call against the Saints even worse, they cal PI for anything and they didnt call that?

You also cant hit like you used to. QB is off limits, but its all about the big contracts. Owners have millions invested in their players and they influence how the game is being played.

Very few teams use one running back any more, which used to be the norm. They only get half the workload for fear of injury and wearing down.

Back in the 70's, when I was just understanding football, them players were mean. Jack Lambert, Mean Joe Greene, Ronnie Lott. Before my time was Butkus and Nitsche

Also concussions. Back in the day, if you could guess how many fingers the trainer was holding up, you could go back in and play. Today a Doctor looks at you, and if he suspects something, you must pass a battery of tests on the sideline. If it goes further you need an MRi before they will clear you.

Players used to play hurt all the time, now they wont play if their toe nail hurts. Again. all about the Benjamins. A hurt player cant sign a big deal

The focus is on scoring and offense in general. The primadonna QB's, when defense used to be the way to win. Not any more, you have to be able to score, and score a lot, no matter how good your defense might be. The rules create higher scoring games.

But it's still a soap opera (on the field) that im interested in. it's that wonder of what will happen next, that makes people watch.

But the players today are hard to relate to, make too much money. I enjoy a player like Phillip Lindsay of Denver, a walk on for Denver this year, and he ended up making the pro bowl

THAT i love.

Starting in 8th grade through all of college, I got a concussion the first day of contact. All the symptoms that get players removed from games etc. happened to me. Back then you were told to suck it up and get back in there. I'd have such splitting headaches I wouldn't even be able to hear the coaches and the sunlight was blinding and I would go back to my room and fall asleep usually through to the next day's practice where I would feel better and wouldn't usually have those symptoms again the rest of the year. I used to dread day one of hitting and I recall doing drills half blinded and woozy those first days with splitting headaches and it just became something to endure. No one EVER discussed concussions, no one EVER cared that you were obviously in distress and now I (along with most people who played football for extended years beyond high school) wait and worry how much damage was done and how it will manifest itself.

Speaking strictly as "The best "bench-warmer" who ever played the game"... LOL! I spent six years of my life being a blocking dummy, a second-team B-Teamer... and the best joke teller at the back of the bus... whenever they would agree to let us travel with the squad... but now, IT AIN'T THE SAME GAME We Played!

Most of my friends were "All-State" Football and Basketball players. I was, simply put, a Klutz of the first magnitude. The "gear" we wore would cause an uproar from the Nanny State... all concerned about concussions... (and concussions are a cause for concern)... but nobody seems to give a rip about Boxers, Kick Boxers and Soccer Players and their concussions.

Our helmets were made of leather and a pre-cursor for plastic, without rubber-coated metal face guards and sanitation in the locker room was practically non-existent. Jock itch, Athlete's Foot and Ringworm were rampantly out of control. But it was our team and our town and it was a privilege to be allowed to participate... but a massive waste of time.

My advice to today's kids... "Find something to do productive and conducive to finding a career in life that will make you happy, allow you to earn a living for yourself and your family... and put down the Smart-Phone before it fries your brain and steals all your secrets.

Will I watch today's Big Game? Probably some... and I will cheer for Tom Brady and his team, hated almost as much as the New York Yankees. But I won't be watching the Half-Time Display of tasteless insanity.

You didn't miss anything, worst (by far) Super Bowl game ever, including the ones that were massive blow outs. At least in those there was some scoring. The Rams QB was HOPELESS and Brady, though he won, didn't do much to help. The QB's combined for no passing TDs and an interception. What a let down, especially after bad calls took the two most exciting teams in the league out in the previous round. Imagine how different a KC-NO game would have been!

Brian

Perhaps a "Runners-Up" Bowl would be another way for the NFL to recoup massive losses stemming from Goodell's mindless leadership.

On the bright side, the game last night was defensively brilliant... especially on the part of Wade Phillips.

So glad I missed the half-time disaster. Will they ever learn?

Maybe next year, they will eliminate all the hoopla and concentrate on the game. A marching band would do for a half-time show! I also commend Gladys Knight for her performance of the National Anthem. Didn't think much of the pre-emptive version of "America the Beautiful"... and it clearly confused some of the players who did not know if the Anthem had been put aside to prevent "kneelers."

Yeah, warbling wildly to any song is unpleasant, to a classic and easy to sing America the Beautiful is pretty lame. Gladys, well past her prime, treated the Anthem with respect, which you'd think anyone interested in singing would be smart enough to do.

It wasn't as defensively brilliant in my eyes as yours Dave. Brady played badly, and the Ram's QB was a joke. It was the weakest mutual QB play overall in Superbowl history, if not playoff history coming from both sides.

Brian

Well it was a crap superbowl from start to finish. Rams had so many opportunities to win it it wasnt funny. Pats were horrible Rams were just a little worse

All i can say is that both coaches hit the film room and figured out how to make it a no scoring game.

Overall it was extremely clean, few penalties,(that went NEs way) and one pick each. No fumbles, no blocked punts.

It was take it to the 50 and punt, Both punters were extraordinary, it went unnoticed but they pinned both teams inside the ten all game

Thats how low scoring games happen

Didnt see that coming, but the rams had every chance to win it. Its always Brady coming out on top though, it really is amazing.

As usual, I'm the contrarian. I like defensive games.

Both defenses anticipated the other teams plays and pretty well won every match-up on the field. That's hard to do in the NFL against elite offenses. The ability of the Rams to stop Brady for as long as they did was fascinating to me. The number of passes (both teams) that were broken up without a penalty was fascinating to me.

Gronk was smothered when he caught the go-ahead score. He slipped out to his right and damn if the ball wasn't surgically placed.

I thought that it was a great game. But...Brees should have been there. I don't think that NE could have shut him and his receivers down.

I thought that the half-time show was cringe worthy. When Levine ripped off his shirt like the female soccer star a few years ago, I felt embarrassed. I guess somebody liked it.

Martin

I like defense too but 95% of the time it doesnt exist any more.