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#1149984 - 01/12/19 08:52 AM Yellow Vest Bank Run  
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Hi Folks,

For those of you paying attention the French are planning a bank run today against the fiat currency system that impoverishes the worlds "little people" to the enrichment of the 1/100th of 1%. It's big topic and there's no way to bring you all up to speed in this post, so for those already somewhat paying attention, I have a concern that I haven't heard expressed by anyone.

I think the French people are being played. (Aren't we ALL ALWAYS being played by these elitist tools?). I think this bank run is an ends to a means as the entire yellow vest movement is also one big Psyop by the ruling class. It makes little people think they are in control when it is all just a big manipulation and an ends to the means of the ruling class. What does it mean? It means that Digital Currency is coming, whether you want it or not (and you should most certainly NOT want it) and stunts like this (and the entire "yellow vest" movement in general) may simply be a quick way to move people willingly towards that end. So if a few banks (or even one) comes under serious distress, (false or otherwise) they could use the subsequent (and understandable) panic by people with their savings and retirements to say "we're with the government, and we're here to help" and turn it into one more impetus to introducing digital currency and once that happens, it is all over folks. (Too big of a topic to discuss here, feel free to research concerns/abuses of all digital currencies).

Look, banks already do the following: You come in to get a loan for $1000 bucks. The bank's account only has $100 dollars of hard currency in it. But the bank says "sure, we'll loan you the $1000 dollars" and they take their "real" $100 dollars and create the other $900 digitally and give you a digital loan. (This happens already, and is a simplified math version to explain it). For you and me, we have to actually WORK for the $900, they just enter a keystroke because the banks control the currencies of the world and it's all just funny money entered by keystrokes anyway). But you and I have to do the actual work to earn it. This is how they already control us. But convert all this to digital only, and we don't even have the ability to take our "money" (which is really just paper they print at will already with nothing to back it) our in cash to have a representation of our value owed. Once we let these vampires convert us to digital currency, it is over, plain and simple, for our kids, grandkids and the generational debt slaves beyond. At that point, only two options exist for worldwide humanity: Burn it all down with massive wars killing uncountable numbers worldwide and resetting it all back to a modern era stone age where our fellow citizens are ill prepared to survive, OR simply accept our permanent world wide slave culture we will have condemned our kids to until the time when it all collapses, see above.

There's so much ugliness coming folks. Something has to give. Our government are run by lawless criminals of ALL parties (this was never a "left/right" issue, this has always been an elitist/peasant class issue). America is barely hanging on and as long as we keep fighting each other in the endless us versus them politics they keep force feeding us, along with the completely useless education our kids get making them ill suited to survive outside the manufactured system created to globally enslave us all. Much of the rest of the world has been conned into believing the USA will protect them from these wolves at our collective doors. Our bases all over the world can be used to protect, or enslave just as easily as any single "election" (which are often just large Psyops meant to make us THINK we have a real choice in these matters) can flip everything on its head whenever they want. There hasn't been a practical "results oriented" difference between any administration in decades or much longer. It's all war all the time. It's all censorship all the time. It's all "one law for us, another for all of you" all the time. It's all a sham.

So anytime something seems to be a light at the end of some tunnel for any given group of us, rest assured the opposite result is true.

That's just my opinion, I could be right.

Brian


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#1149987 - 01/12/19 10:00 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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I truly see your points Brian.
But I also see digital currency as inevitable.
The FED and it mammoth QE's out to the banks were digital. It seems that they typed in a number and pressed "send."

I don't understand the nature of currency. Never have. But it seems to come down to a belief in it's value relative to the total currency in circulation relative to the total goods and services out there. I don't know how digital will work out, but I think that we will get to see.

As to your original point. I don't think that the elites manipulate everything. I think that they manipulate a lot. I think that often, as in this case, they watch the rioting on the streets evolve, and then position themselves to the circumstance.

As for the French, they're national heritage is societal revolution. It's what they are most famous for. That and Napoleon who set it aside after he took power.I think that part of it is that they feel good seeing themselves as neo-bastille stormers. In so many other ways, they seem liberal to the point of acquiescence.


Disclaimer: I dunno what I'm talking about. I wrote it anyway.

#1149988 - 01/12/19 10:46 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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Eh, Well,
There are plenty things I could say but what seems evident to me is too many people want somebody else to fund their lifestyle. Ever notice somebody bitching that the government is not giving them enough? Well there I've said too much already.
All i can say is it's a helluva way to run a railroad, no? Geronimo!


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#1149989 - 01/12/19 11:06 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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I've been watching the "Yellow Vest" Incident (way more than that in France) with a bit of alarm... not because of the overall complaint of these people... but because of the lawlessness. Ghandi's peaceful method would have worked much better and brought about change... if change is really needed in France.

The disturbing thing... now this "idea" appears to be spreading to the UK. Let's hope they don't get into destroying or defacing monuments and disrupting traffic. Then, let's hope it does not migrate over here to "Russia Investigation Land" where the "Party of Haters" will embrace it.

The "digital currency" thing is going to end up being the scam that breaks the back of the international banking system. Bitcoin must be sent to oblivion while there is still time.

Thanks, Brian... for your insight and wisdom.

#1149991 - 01/12/19 11:40 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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In regards to banks, they continue to give people with poor credit credit cards, even people who owe 4,5,6, credit cards past. They absolutely know the person cant or wont pay it back but they issue it anyway. Why would they do this? Number one, they charge a fee...you want a card, pay us 80.00, and well give you a small line of credit. This way when the person doesn't pay the card off, they already have 80 bucks up front. Then they can sell the delinquent account to telemarketers and collection agencies, and sell your name to mailing lists for companies who have services that deal with that.. On top of it they have insurance for delinquent accounts and can file claims on them.

Alot of banks are just Spam in disguise.


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#1149993 - 01/12/19 11:48 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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Well,
If all else fails find that Merle Travis song DRY BREAD. It is posted
For all those Illegals at the Southern Border I suggest THE GOLD RUSH IS OVER by Hank Snow.
For all those in California that need new direction I suggest COW TOWN by Webb Pierce

A lot of money is now transmitted digitally today. However the cash still has to be moved manually from place to place how
i don't know. Gee I hope there are no slip ups!

There I've done my good deed for the day. Is this still a Music Board? Then write a Hit!


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#1149994 - 01/12/19 11:51 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Ray E. Strode]  
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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Well,
If all else fails find that Merle Travis song DRY BREAD. It is posted
For all those Illegals at the Southern Border I suggest THE GOLD RUSH IS OVER by Hank Snow.
For all those in California that need new direction I suggest COW TOWN by Webb Pierce

A lot of money is now transmitted digitally today. However the cash still has to be moved manually from place to place how
i don't know. Gee I hope there are no slip ups!

There I've done my good deed for the day. Is this still a Music Board? Then write a Hit!


Actually when money is digital, it often becomes abstract. Most digital money is never used. Like if a person has 100 k in the bank, how much of it are they going to actually use?

Well, since your not using it, well use it....

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#1150004 - 01/12/19 10:14 PM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Martin Lide]  
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Originally Posted by Martin Lide
I truly see your points Brian.
But I also see digital currency as inevitable.
The FED and it mammoth QE's out to the banks were digital. It seems that they typed in a number and pressed "send."

I don't understand the nature of currency. Never have. But it seems to come down to a belief in it's value relative to the total currency in circulation relative to the total goods and services out there. I don't know how digital will work out, but I think that we will get to see.

As to your original point. I don't think that the elites manipulate everything. I think that they manipulate a lot. I think that often, as in this case, they watch the rioting on the streets evolve, and then position themselves to the circumstance.

As for the French, they're national heritage is societal revolution. It's what they are most famous for. That and Napoleon who set it aside after he took power.I think that part of it is that they feel good seeing themselves as neo-bastille stormers. In so many other ways, they seem liberal to the point of acquiescence.


Disclaimer: I dunno what I'm talking about. I wrote it anyway.


The french middle and lower working classes can't survive month to month on the 1K Euro's they earn. Ever been to Paris? It would be hard to live on that even if you owned your home already and had no other debts let alone the reality of rents higher than that per month, food weekly costs for a family of 4 eating 80% of that even at Ramen Noodle levels, and don't think about using a car with $15 dollar (or more) gasoline and taxes out the ying yang. We've spent about 6 months in France, 4 of it in Paris and it's like living in NYC for the most part. Imagine living on 14K US a year in NYC. Yes, I know people do it, but they don't have to drive, and there's rent controls etc. to help. Paris, not so much. So these folks are desperate. And like most long time Union members in their 40's and 50's, they are realizing none of the money promised to them will be there when it is their turn, plus with plunging birthrates, the best case scenario is counting on immigration of low skill, low education, non French speaking people from an alien culture (usually Muslim in a still heavily Christian society) to support them with taxes in their elderly years so all those promised social services will be realized. It isn't happening. Meanwhile, what little money there is is being swallowed by those same immigrants daily. It's all of the above that is the cause of this desperation. Of course the French Gov is going ban protests (as in the USA) without a permit. Did anyone think we had freedom of speech and freedom to assemble in the USA? I hope not because we don't. Our rights have been eroding faster and faster since WWII. Only our second amendments stands between complete loss of whatever minimal rights we still have and they are zeroing in on those as we speak. And they'd be happy if people started using guns in protest because they'd send in the troops and use that to put the final nail in the coffin and take all the guns, kill all the resistors, terrorize the law abiding to let it happen and lock us down with all that Patriot Act BS which should have been opposed by all freedom loving Americans but at that time Bush had a ridiculous 80+% approval rating. The left/right animosity is designed to keep us all from looking at what they are up to and instead attack our friends and neighbors and all this SJW stuff is a big psyop to kill freedom of speech AND freedom of thought. They create new ways to vilify everyone every day. And they are coming for the left just as hard as the right lest anyone think otherwise. I have friends who are huge YouTubers on the left and the right who have been banned in the past year, some with larger viewership than any network news channel. Most of the channels pretending to be right or left are controlled opposition (I know this for a fact through first hand knowledge in several cases). When you've been around these folks for 30 years, you know their BS or you know others who do who share it with you).

It is some scary stuff going on. And I have been duped by people I trusted so I am hardly immune to falling for the propaganda as well. The ratio to actual truth versus propaganda and lies is sadly in the small minority and it is very hard to know what to believe or who to believe anymore.

Are we having fun yet... sigh...

Brian


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#1150005 - 01/12/19 10:40 PM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
I've been watching the "Yellow Vest" Incident (way more than that in France) with a bit of alarm... not because of the overall complaint of these people... but because of the lawlessness. Ghandi's peaceful method would have worked much better and brought about change... if change is really needed in France.

The disturbing thing... now this "idea" appears to be spreading to the UK. Let's hope they don't get into destroying or defacing monuments and disrupting traffic. Then, let's hope it does not migrate over here to "Russia Investigation Land" where the "Party of Haters" will embrace it.

The "digital currency" thing is going to end up being the scam that breaks the back of the international banking system. Bitcoin must be sent to oblivion while there is still time.

Thanks, Brian... for your insight and wisdom.


Dave,

The sad thing is that most all the violence has been the police against peaceful people simply wearing a yellow vest and standing still in many cases. I have seen first hand video of police shooting a tear gas canister directly into a 65+ year old woman, who, once it landed on the ground at her feet spewing tear gas (with no one else around her at all she was standing in an open space and they hit her on purpose because she had helped someone else up just prior as she was walking who had ALSO been assaulted with tear gas shells) she kicked it away app. 4 feet and covered her face with her coat. The proceeded to rush her, all on camera, tackling her hard onto the ground, punching her while others tried to come to HER aid. They picked her up out of the pile and she tried to run away where a separate group of thug cops in riot gear screamed out to "get her" and proceeded to tackle and jump on top of her again. They were shooting rubber bullets at people's faces and hitting them, putting out eyes, killing one person that day, and these people weren't making noise, weren't marching, they were simply STANDING in the area they had been driven to by masses of riot cops into a small surrounded area. The only evidence of aggression was to pick up tear gas canisters shot at them and throwing them back half way towards where they came from. The cops caused/initiated 95% of all violence. And ironically, the scenes where people are busting windows etc. is NOT usually the yellow vests, but a combination of ANTIFA and in at least one case, off duty cops trying to frame it on Yellow Jackets. This was a first hand account I got from a JPF member on the ground and at the scene in Paris. They posted this info on social media and were immediately banned and deleted. (but they didn't get their music accounts thankfully so they didn't make the connection to their artist name which is better known in other countries than in Paris where they live).


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#1150006 - 01/12/19 10:44 PM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Fdemetrio]  
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
In regards to banks, they continue to give people with poor credit credit cards, even people who owe 4,5,6, credit cards past. They absolutely know the person cant or wont pay it back but they issue it anyway. Why would they do this? Number one, they charge a fee...you want a card, pay us 80.00, and well give you a small line of credit. This way when the person doesn't pay the card off, they already have 80 bucks up front. Then they can sell the delinquent account to telemarketers and collection agencies, and sell your name to mailing lists for companies who have services that deal with that.. On top of it they have insurance for delinquent accounts and can file claims on them.

Alot of banks are just Spam in disguise.



You are correct. Best thing I ever did in life was to pay off our cards (which was brutal to do at the time and meant going without everything just about for 2 years) but once I did, we started having TONS of money extra and we saved it up in a few years and paid cash for our new car. We have a few cards but we don't allow ourselves to EVER spend what we can't immediately pay back the same month. It's too hard to try and use cash only and more and more places won't even take cash which is really sad.


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#1150007 - 01/12/19 10:58 PM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Fdemetrio]  
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Well,
If all else fails find that Merle Travis song DRY BREAD. It is posted
For all those Illegals at the Southern Border I suggest THE GOLD RUSH IS OVER by Hank Snow.
For all those in California that need new direction I suggest COW TOWN by Webb Pierce

A lot of money is now transmitted digitally today. However the cash still has to be moved manually from place to place how
i don't know. Gee I hope there are no slip ups!

There I've done my good deed for the day. Is this still a Music Board? Then write a Hit!


Actually when money is digital, it often becomes abstract. Most digital money is never used. Like if a person has 100 k in the bank, how much of it are they going to actually use?

Well, since your not using it, well use it....


Well they used it long before you saved it. These banks have no money at all. It's all just lies and digits. And they all play along. And they know they are "too big to fail." We had an awesome family owned local bank chain in Indianapolis who were just fine when the "crises" happened in 2008. They were FORCED to close down or sell to Citibank, who were belly up and got trillions (that's the REAL number, not the billions they claimed) from taxpayers for free (yes, they lost it all due to lies and corruption and their punishment was all their debts were paid by the people whose money they lost AND they were HANDED all the small profitable local bank chains across the US as a bonus gift for destroying our kids futures). They were "nice" enough to keep the same employees, keep the same locations, just changed the names on the buildings and told the local family to f$#% off and take pennies on the dollar or get nothing, their choice. Our little bank tried hard to fight but they chose to save their employees jobs and get something back for their investors and heirs.


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Want to see some first hand Yellow Vest overage from today? Here's a reliable firsthand source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlGCtEtdHUQ

PS: It is disturbing and raw... you've been warned. By the way, they are claiming the explosion you witness just after it happened was a gas leak (as reported by Luke in a later video) and not a car bomb as he says in the video because he was there long before any authorities. You decide for yourself. He has lots of other coverage which I am catching up to, so visit his site on youtube at WeAreChange channel. I've known these guys since 9/11. They do honest work and acknowledge and immediately correct any mistakes they make.


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Brian

I don't see things exactly as you do.

In my view, globalization (which was inevitable) has brought about sudden and jarring change. One of the greatest impacts has been access to poverty level labor in far away places for large and not so large corporations. I don't think that countries should submit to globalization and merely tell their people that, "they lose", but the draw of poverty level wages is a hard thing to ignore and offset. I'm afraid that I see a lot of your concerns as a problem with no real solution. It appears to me that the money is not there to fix them.

And to make matters worse, humans are rapidly being replaced by algorithms and machines that can carry out the algorithms. I don't have any idea where that will go, but the human replacements will be coming on fast in the near future.

Martin

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Well Golly,
The more things change the more they are the same. After the Stock Market Crash of 1929 many Social Programs were put in place to prevent it from happening again. So it looks good on the surface. BUT, all the money that was supposed to help all us peasants, I am a peasant, has been spent to the tune of about 22 Trillion dollars now. Every social spending program is running out of money with I.O.U'S in the "Piggy Bank". I hear some people warned this was a bad idea. I think they were outvoted 10 to 1. About all you can do is roll with the punches, and grab what ever you can grab as the "Money" rolls by.

I don't know enough about the conditions in France to give an opinion, except it is probably a lot better that in Venezuela.
And remember, in the Navy a sailor isn't happy unless he is bitching about something. I think I'll leave it at that.


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Brian, you are right, the powers that be want a one world government so they can control everyone. What better way to control everyone than control our money. They already have most of the information on everyone through the internet. When a leader appears on the world scene with what appears to be the answer to the world's problems, governments will surrender their Sovereignty to that leader who will rule at least half the world. He will require people to swear allegiance to him and take a mark that shows you have sworn allegiance to him, without that mark you will not be able to buy or sell. It is happening faster than we want to believe.

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Saw an interesting TV Program tonight about how the Chinese are developing technology to aid educators in monitoring which students need help, which are excelling and those who are at the top near the genius level. The downside of all this, there are no constraints on privacy... they have no such laws to protect the general public... and this technology is being imported to the rest of the world under the guise of enhancing education at the classroom level. What Fools we are!

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Brian

I don't see things exactly as you do.

In my view, globalization (which was inevitable) has brought about sudden and jarring change. One of the greatest impacts has been access to poverty level labor in far away places for large and not so large corporations. I don't think that countries should submit to globalization and merely tell their people that, "they lose", but the draw of poverty level wages is a hard thing to ignore and offset. I'm afraid that I see a lot of your concerns as a problem with no real solution. It appears to me that the money is not there to fix them.

And to make matters worse, humans are rapidly being replaced by algorithms and machines that can carry out the algorithms. I don't have any idea where that will go, but the human replacements will be coming on fast in the near future.

Martin


I will give you a simple example of how a country (i.e. by decision of its CITIZENS, NOT their ELITE UN-ELECTED RULERS) can say NO to needless automation that will impoverish large portions of their citizens. Self Driving Trucks and Cars. Do we NEED them so people can spend even MORE time buried in their social media staring down into cell phones? I suggest no, we do not. Because when they introduce and then MANDATE them, (and they WILL MANDATE THEM so that you have no actual FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT, though they will claim the opposite is true, 3 in 4 non college educated jobs will be eliminated because currently in the USA, 3/4s of those jobs involved driving vehicles and the support jobs that back them up. People will scream "PROGRESS!!!" and I suggest if progress causes, as you have just stated above, INEVITABLE displacement of most people from making an honest living (meaning people who contribute their labor to society in exchange for a living wage which contrary to elitist views, people NEED in their lives) society faces a dystopian collapse (if we're LUCKY) or worse, a never ending, inescapable dystopian future where we become far worse off than anything Orwell could have had a nightmare about. Progress does not mean improved living by default. Otherwise life will become us all hooked to machines 100% of them time while the world around us is machinery doing all things for us and we're confined to inside our minds forever trapped inside that very hellish machine it is all leading to. So if I had a real say, I would ban automated work vehicles permanently until this same "progress" finds a solution to the problem of what our poor, uneducated, under educated and right now our biggest problem, ill educated college grads with useless degrees that prepare them for NOTHING REAL to do in the world?

My family lives in the middle of Amish folks who live without electricity and who have AMAZING quality of lives, fulfilling, meaningful, long lived, healthy (far healthier than the average non-Amish) and yes, they WILL allow use of modern medicine to save a child and for any adult who chooses to use it so they DO value life, but frankly as friends and family members die all around them in my "normie" life, I haven't seen one example of any of them dying from the stuff we die from. In nearly every case, deaths are at full term life by natural age related causes. Now, I am not suggesting we all become Amish, but I AM suggesting that "progress" for progress sake does not improve the lives of human beings by default. When AI continues to dominate human thinking, we all become reliant and dumb because of it. We used to be able to fix the devices/tools even toys etc. we used with our own hands. Now, we just toss it in the garbage and buy a new one. How does THAT make the world better? And what happens when we lose that overlord of progress and technology where everything around us is beyond our ability to control, alter or change unless it is all taken away and we devolve into hunter/gatherers and a hellish survival of the fittest nightmare?

That's just my opinion, I could be right.

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Years ago, I watched hapless fellow employees forced to wear "pagers" in order to be at their supervisor's "beck and call." I vowed to never allow myself to be "captured" by those things... and with the advent of "smart phones"... way too many folks are looking pretty dumb spending more than half their day staring into that thing, waiting for Mr. Right to call or discover them, not realizing they are being spied upon, tracked and counted... as our Government allows "Big Tech" outfits to dumb us down. Even worse, those damn things cost hundreds of dollars, are easily lost or stolen and still need constant re-charging. No thanks!

Globalization sucks! I don't want some yutz from Sumatra or Red China pulling my strings. We need to stop being puppets and retrieve our lives. Newspapers are dying, the TV news is so biased and slewed, we no longer get much in the way of world news unless we bother to dig deep... and even then, half or more is distorted.

Our Government is so "polarized" and controlled by oligarchies, we may never return to national sanity. When it takes millions to run for office... no matter how small, can we ever return to the system where a person goes to Washington (or their State Capitol) to serve a term or two and return home as a normal citizen. Probably not!

I think the Amish may have the right idea. Thanks, Brian. ----Dave

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I don't think that your post is wrong Brian. I think that it's likely correct or largely correct.
But, I don't see the cat going back in the bag, unless the economy collapses....which would be horrible for a different set of reasons.

Martin

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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
Years ago, I watched hapless fellow employees forced to wear "pagers" in order to be at their supervisor's "beck and call." I vowed to never allow myself to be "captured" by those things... and with the advent of "smart phones"... way too many folks are looking pretty dumb spending more than half their day staring into that thing, waiting for Mr. Right to call or discover them, not realizing they are being spied upon, tracked and counted... as our Government allows "Big Tech" outfits to dumb us down. Even worse, those damn things cost hundreds of dollars, are easily lost or stolen and still need constant re-charging. No thanks!

Globalization sucks! I don't want some yutz from Sumatra or Red China pulling my strings. We need to stop being puppets and retrieve our lives. Newspapers are dying, the TV news is so biased and slewed, we no longer get much in the way of world news unless we bother to dig deep... and even then, half or more is distorted.

Our Government is so "polarized" and controlled by oligarchies, we may never return to national sanity. When it takes millions to run for office... no matter how small, can we ever return to the system where a person goes to Washington (or their State Capitol) to serve a term or two and return home as a normal citizen. Probably not!

I think the Amish may have the right idea. Thanks, Brian. ----Dave


Every job used to have a hiding place, lol. Now they just text you or in the past, page or walkie talkie you. And if you dont answer, guess what happens.

Technology is extremely helpful but very destructive at the same time

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Originally Posted by Martin Lide
I don't think that your post is wrong Brian. I think that it's likely correct or largely correct.
But, I don't see the cat going back in the bag, unless the economy collapses....which would be horrible for a different set of reasons.

Martin


Martin,

Oh, the economy WILL crash.. mark my words... and it will be 100% by design. AND it will result in very bloody wars and (if the elites get their way) a fissure in society among tribal lines in this case meaning left/right, racial, religious and hell in some cases even gender since the people being imported worldwide believe women are mere possessions to start with and raping, murdering, pedophilia and the like are ordained by their religion against both believers and non believers. Pedophilia is being push on US society non stop. Meat grown in a lab from stem cells are being pushed (research Incredible Meats). Their HQ in Silicon Valley is a windowless, sign less industrial building in an industrial park with one exception, right across the street is an out of place Planned Parenthood. Think I am making this up? Watch this: (This woman, from Canada I believe, is an amazing mind and researcher and she's exposed so many important issues, but as you'll see, this so sickened her, she just had to stop pursuing it. But this sickness is on its way to a White Castle restaurant near you if you live in the middle of American and other places: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhRKOfmyXy0

Look folks, we've been lied to our whole lives. Sure, most all sane people realize that the 24 hr news channels of all political bents spend much of their time lying (CNN, MSNBC, ALL NETWORK NEWS) or lying by omission (FoxNews) which is just as bad, but they have been lying in schools, in history resources, in economics, in science, in entertainment and literature our entire lives and before. They've always said that the winners write the history, and we've just accepted that nothing built on one lie followed by another and another throughout time equals honest history or an honest set of facts no matter how well you research. If all records are outright lies, imagine making sense in 50 years about ANYTHING written about or covered today? So why should we trust even the most basic and obvious things we've been told since we were kids? After all, now they are telling kids that they can determine sub 5 years old, if they are transgendered and can ask for and receive hormone blockers so they never develop, become sterile and prepare for a sex change (which ironically can't even be carried out because little kids don't develop normally and thus there's no "material" to convert to another gender in either direction later. (This is the SICK stuff that is already becoming law in countries like England where you can be arrested and lose your kids for child abuse if you come out against these practices. This is where we are. You don't have to be religious to see the evil we're surrounded by.

But Martin, are you suggesting that there's nothing we can do so we should just accept it all? If so, why should any of us bother to go on living? The hellish future guaranteed to our kids and grandkids is likely worse than any previous holocaust humans have created. When you have elitists openly calling for us to reduce our population by many many billions and where we see fertility rates plummeting in all western countries many thing due to a collective set of cultural and medicinal and toxic chemicals we eat, breath and which cover our food as it grows and all we hear is "keep pushing forward! PROGRESS... never ending PROGRESS!" but towards what exactly?

I shudder.

Brian


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We have a hamburger chain in Canada pushing a burger called "beyond meat", which is supposed to be plant based. I wonder if this is the same stuff that she was talking about. I tried one, it was not terrible but I would not buy another one. When man starts fooling with nature, he is going to take short cuts to make more profit, but what is he doing to man's bodies. There is a firm producing seed that grow plants that can stand against insects and weed sprays, so farmers can spray and kill the weeds without harming the plants, but this herbicide is absorbed into the fruit of these plants which either we eat directly or eat the animals that these plants are fed to. Either way we are getting it into our bodies. What is it doing to us in the short term or long term. If they want to bring the population of earth down, what better way can they do it than killing us off through our food or making us unable to have children. They've been using war for centuries to keep population in check, but war is getting too expensive,destructive and dangerous, Profit is not a dirty word but when it becomes the driving force at the expense of the lives of others, it can be very dirty.

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Originally Posted by Martin Lide
I don't think that your post is wrong Brian. I think that it's likely correct or largely correct.
But, I don't see the cat going back in the bag, unless the economy collapses....which would be horrible for a different set of reasons.

Martin



But Martin, are you suggesting that there's nothing we can do so we should just accept it all? If so, why should any of us bother to go on living? The hellish future guaranteed to our kids and grandkids is likely worse than any previous holocaust humans have created. When you have elitists openly calling for us to reduce our population by many many billions and where we see fertility rates plummeting in all western countries many thing due to a collective set of cultural and medicinal and toxic chemicals we eat, breath and which cover our food as it grows and all we hear is "keep pushing forward! PROGRESS... never ending PROGRESS!" but towards what exactly?

I shudder.

Brian


I'm not suggesting acquiescence. I am not a fan of globalism and elites who decide everything based on profit. I think that such massive money hollows and darkens people's cores. They become too different and too focused on wealth and things.

But for most people throughout time, innovation and progress were interchangeable. I don't think that legislating how much innovation is allowable is a workable idea and I shudder to think who might be doing it. God forbid the politicians in Washington from deciding such.
I regard the Amish as a regressive curiosity, not something to pattern society after. And even they apparently head for a medical center when the choice is between dying and indulging modern medical science. Cynically speaking....the early 1800's get put on hold until whatever will keep them alive is obtained.

Certain Industries have always been displaced and made obsolete due to innovation. For the the first time in history machines that can think faster and more accurately than humans are going to make many humans obsolete, rather suddenly. What happens to all of those people? I don't know. It can't be good.

I don't know what you do about it. I don't think that you tell people not to innovate or to slow down innovating. The thought of some authority telling people not to innovate is chilling.

It's all a lot bigger than me. My only suggestion regarding this new phase in human history is to see how it actually unfolds and make adjustments as best possible. The people with the massive cash and technology are not going to stop making the thinking machines. I'm not sure that someone is on the right side of destiny to ask them to. It's confusing and uncertain.

Martin



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Well,
This subject is getting deep! Maybe too deep for even me! But, didn't the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz get a brain? Humm.


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Originally Posted by Martin Lide
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Originally Posted by Martin Lide
I don't think that your post is wrong Brian. I think that it's likely correct or largely correct.
But, I don't see the cat going back in the bag, unless the economy collapses....which would be horrible for a different set of reasons.

Martin



But Martin, are you suggesting that there's nothing we can do so we should just accept it all? If so, why should any of us bother to go on living? The hellish future guaranteed to our kids and grandkids is likely worse than any previous holocaust humans have created. When you have elitists openly calling for us to reduce our population by many many billions and where we see fertility rates plummeting in all western countries many thing due to a collective set of cultural and medicinal and toxic chemicals we eat, breath and which cover our food as it grows and all we hear is "keep pushing forward! PROGRESS... never ending PROGRESS!" but towards what exactly?

I shudder.

Brian




Certain Industries have always been displaced and made obsolete due to innovation. For the the first time in history machines that can think faster and more accurately than humans are going to make many humans obsolete, rather suddenly. What happens to all of those people? I don't know. It can't be good.


Martin




I have been saying this about music, songwriting, etc etc etc, with the usual defiance against my opinion. It's already happening in music and getting worse. With software that becomes your whole band, and plug and play recording and production techniques, it seems like a win for the creators. But this is just the tip of the iceberg, music will soon be something that humans no longer do.

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I often think about the relationship between privacy and cash, and the probability of a future of "un-hideable" money—where all transactions are recorded. It's hard to be a criminal without the concept of physical cash, something that can be held by one person and hidden away somewhere...it's hard to hide your electronic funds under the mattress, or bury them in the yard. It's hard to buy meth with a debit card.

I definitely fear the future of privacy...it's already nearly impossible to maintain, and our technological advances are doing more to invade privacy than to protect it. As much as everyone probably values their privacy, few are as concerned with the 4th Amendment as they are with sexier ones like the 2nd or the 14th.


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Originally Posted by Mark Kaufman
I often think about the relationship between privacy and cash, and the probability of a future of "un-hideable" money—where all transactions are recorded. It's hard to be a criminal without the concept of physical cash, something that can be held by one person and hidden away somewhere...it's hard to hide your electronic funds under the mattress, or bury them in the yard. It's hard to buy meth with a debit card.

I definitely fear the future of privacy...it's already nearly impossible to maintain, and our technological advances are doing more to invade privacy than to protect it. As much as everyone probably values their privacy, few are as concerned with the 4th Amendment as they are with sexier ones like the 2nd or the 14th.



I have been pondering the benefits of a cash free society for a long time. A drug dealer would not be able to accept credit cards, but they could still use legitimate businesses to offer the goods. "oh so you want one of THOSE" ok let me write it up....happens to be the same price"

And the real crime now takes place online with stolen credit cards and IDs

There is also new monetary system called bitcoin which is untraceable in some cases.

When there is a will theres a way. The best way to stop drug dealing, without border patrol and crime in general is to stop asking for it.

It's here because people want it. If nobody wants it, no business.

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DRUGS ????

Its here because its part of the brain washing that goes on

Nashville's sixties and seventies scene was probably worse

than it is today ; Nothing new , on a personal view I never understood

the need for it . Portugal has stopped it being a crime ? and the money

they have saved is phenomenal, Drug Dealers selling their Shite is now a

thing of the past; If you want it you can buy it legally and the proper stuff

People often buy it because its illegal , now its not a crime there has been

less trying to buy it; from even the legal outlets -- That's a fact, I get out there

a lot and I have seen it for myself


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One of the most important principles of songwriting is to remember that a good song is a partnership of many different components, all working together to produce a satisfying musical experience.

In that respect, song components are either enhancing or compromising their combined effects.
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I've never understood the seemingly human desire to "elevate" the mental state of one's being. Maybe I've had it too easy? Maybe I was brought up in the right environment? Maybe I'm not stupid? If I were in severe, unfaltering pain, I could understand a possible need... but the risk of becoming addicted to anything is of real concern to me. (I know, already addicted to song-writing... and the results are catastrophic! LOL!)

I can possibly understand the plight of the touring performer or musician who is forced to be deprived of normal eating and sleeping routines. Drugs might provide a boost... temporarily... until addiction settles in. Maybe the Good Lord is looking over my shoulder and rewarding me with "failure?"

If drugs were controlled by the Government, would the problem go away? Would addiction decrease? I'm guessing the politicians would screw things up worse than a fire-drill in the South Pole.

I wish I had the answers. My brother always said the problem would go away if the Government would "lace" about 50% of the drug supply with something that would cause instant death. Folks would think twice (I hope) before "shooting up" or whatever it is these poor fools do. (I know, what an insensitive thought... but he's no longer on this earth... and grew up when times were really tough.)

When compared with the liquor marketing model... maybe the state controlled dope store is the answer. I don't plan to be a customer nor an investor. My theory: If it's wrong... don't do it! (Yeah, sorta like BitCoin!)

Take all this "wisdom" to your local coffee shop (...but not Starbucks) and you might be allowed to use their rest-room. LOL!

Later, The Old Curmudgeon... ----Dave

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I don't do drugs. Don't even smoke pot. Did as a teen but stopped. Today's pot is supposed to be many times more potent than what I smoked.

I feel that there are a lot of people out there who don't do drugs because they are illegal and won't risk the jeopardy that pursuing something illegal brings. My fear is that many many of them would "come off the fence" and do legal drugs.

My personal experience with a couple of cocaine users in my distant past is that they don't ever really "maintain." They tear their lives apart along with the lives of offspring, relatives, friends, and anyone else touched.

My personal feelings... Drugs suck. If drugs are someone's "cause", that's very sad for them. If drugs were legalized, it would turbocharge the havoc that they already wreak. I'm against.

And I've heard the rationalizations having to do with booze. Here's my view on that....If you're walking down a sidewalk and find yourself having to fend off an unleashed pit bull, do you think to yourself..."well let's add a second pit bull."

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#1150107 - 01/17/19 12:03 PM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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Well to me, it's not hard at all to imagine why people do drugs. It's all over the place for starters. But why do they like drinking or smoking, or cheating on their wives, it's because it makes the brain feel good (the latter makes something else feel good too). The fact that we are sitting her conversing online and debating this is all part of our ancestors doing what felt good, and what was good for survival.

Why do people risk their livelihoods and reputations for an affair? And brilliant people to boot.

Feeling good is something everybody strives for, some people do it by eating right and exercise. Some do it by not eating right and not exercising. Some people do it by praying and going to church, some people do it by giving to charity and raising kids/sending them to college. Some people do it by creating music, art or just listening to music.

Others do it by more damaging means

It's all about the bottom line, how does this thing make me feel.

With drugs rarely does it begin with the hard drug. its usually as innocent as smoking your first cigarette or joint, or drinking your first beer. For most people thats enough naughtiness, but for others they want more. And how some people get terribly addicted and others dont has alot to do with genetics.

You take Crosby Stills and Nash for an example. They were all hippies, all abusers, all had money to buy whatever they wanted, but Crosby was the one who needed the liver transplant, and needed to go to prison, and had to rehab his whole life. Genetics decides alot of things. Most things actually. Genetics even decides if somebody will be evil. You cant just become evil as in Hitler or Stalin or a serial killer, you have to be born that way and wired that way.

But even the innocent can get wrapped in the drug spiral. Trying it for a first time, and then getting hooked fast.


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P.S. Legalizing Pot will do no good, because there will still be Coke and Heroin and Meth being sold, and you cant legalize those.

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#1150110 - 01/17/19 01:01 PM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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I guess I somehow sent us into a drug conversation...that's fine and well, but I'm not sharing, so get your own. grin

My point was not so much about drug purchases, but about ANY transaction we make with an expectation of privacy, like a garage sale or a craigslist purchase or even selling a crappy ukulele to your little sister for $10. In a cashless future, every change of hands is recorded somewhere, somehow...and that is something we've never done before. I wonder what it will be like. It doesn't sound great to me, but it kinda seems inevitable.

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Originally Posted by Mark Kaufman
I guess I somehow sent us into a drug conversation...that's fine and well, but I'm not sharing, so get your own. grin

My point was not so much about drug purchases, but about ANY transaction we make with an expectation of privacy, like a garage sale or a craigslist purchase or even selling a crappy ukulele to your little sister for $10. In a cashless future, every change of hands is recorded somewhere, somehow...and that is something we've never done before. I wonder what it will be like. It doesn't sound great to me, but it kinda seems inevitable.


I know, how will I be able to buy a new blow up doll without somebody knowing I bought it. Back in the day i could wear a rubber nose and a raincoat and go into a weird store to buy one. Ahh, but the good old days are gone lollllllll

I hear ya, I think what your saying is everything we do is traceable. Even for people not bothering anybody or committing crimes.

The new tech on the horizon is ATM'S that only your eye pattern or your finger print can access. I guess the criminals will just have to grab the guy and say ok, go over there and look into that camera, and give me all your money!

But the world is and will be in the hands of hackers. Let's hope they are from Jersey.....


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Pot is now legal in Canada but illegal pot is still available at a cheaper price, just like under the table cigarettes are available for less than legal cigarettes, after all the guy selling on the street don't have a storefront to pay for, or upkeep, or taxes. But now the "honest" citizen can buy and use and not feel guilty or fear the law. I don't use any of the poisons, legal or otherwise. I'm trying to keep my body healthy as long as I can, which is hard to do with all the poisons in our food, water and air. Governments don't want us living too long, if we do we will cost too much in pensions and hospital care.

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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
Pot is now legal in Canada but illegal pot is still available at a cheaper price, just like under the table cigarettes are available for less than legal cigarettes, after all the guy selling on the street don't have a storefront to pay for, or upkeep, or taxes. But now the "honest" citizen can buy and use and not feel guilty or fear the law. I don't use any of the poisons, legal or otherwise. I'm trying to keep my body healthy as long as I can, which is hard to do with all the poisons in our food, water and air. Governments don't want us living too long, if we do we will cost too much in pensions and hospital care.


That's what I've always read about Amsterdam and other places. Part of the sales job for legalized pot is that the bad guys who sell the illegal pot and other drugs will be completely undercut and will disappear along with all of their other misc criminal activities.
But they don't.

#1150129 - 01/18/19 11:31 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Everett Adams]  
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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
Pot is now legal in Canada but illegal pot is still available at a cheaper price, just like under the table cigarettes are available for less than legal cigarettes, after all the guy selling on the street don't have a storefront to pay for, or upkeep, or taxes. But now the "honest" citizen can buy and use and not feel guilty or fear the law. I don't use any of the poisons, legal or otherwise. I'm trying to keep my body healthy as long as I can, which is hard to do with all the poisons in our food, water and air. Governments don't want us living too long, if we do we will cost too much in pensions and hospital care.


Illegals can also get more potent strains that the gov wouldn't want to regulate. But cocaine and heroin will still be sold, so it solves nothing. It actually might create more business for illegals, because if somebody tries pot because of it being legal, they may like it in ways they never knew they did, and will go for harder stuff.

The state of New Hampshire in NJ, has en epidemic of heroin among high school kids, pot is so "so what" today.

They make heroin very potent and u dont even need to shoot it, you can snort or smoke it, which means more are willing to try it.

P.S. I dont believe governments dont want people to live longer, because they are people too, and have children.

It's all about money, and right now. The fast food industry is still thriving, America is the most obese country in the world.

The medical societies have warned many, and say that if we dont fix our obesity problem its going to bankrupt us.

So the focus is always on the dollar. Obesity costs billions of dollars every year.

Nature has plenty of ways to kill us anyway.




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#1150162 - 01/19/19 08:53 AM Re: Yellow Vest Bank Run [Re: Brian Austin Whitney]  
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I think governments take the attitude if we can't beat them, we'll join them. That way the governments will make money off the honest people, the dishonest you will have with you always and will not buy legally anyway, we have it is booze, cigarettes and drugs and just about anything else you can mention. The underground economy is almost as big as the aboveground economy. Some people will do anything to "beat" the government. Of course "we" are the government, we put them in office, we can take them out of office if they get too blatant in helping themselves to what ever they can get away with. It seems to be part of our nature to do what we are not suppose to do. Tell a child not to do something and most times they will do it when they get the chance. Adults are the same. We don't like being told what to do and what not to do. You're not the boss of me attitude.

We know pot will lead to greater use of harder drugs, but what can you do. If people are going to destroy themselves, they will, be it drugs, food, booze, whatever. There are people catching themselves on fire then jumping into water, there are even people blindfolding themselves and walking out into traffic, or even worst, driving blindfolded into traffic. Anything for a dare, excitement or plain crazy. Smuggling drugs and whatever into countries trying to beat the odds of being caught. Russian roulette anyone???

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Well Hecks Fire,
They used to say a Navy Ship is only as good as the people assigned to it. Same with Governments. Even tho things are running about as well as can be expected there is always somebody coming along that thinks they can do it better. Sound Familiar? Not sure if things have settled down in France or not. I never needed illegal drugs to get me by. I have too many other things to do to prop myself up on drugs.


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Eh FD,
They say Democracy, the one we have, is the worst form of Government there is, except for all the others. Don't try to understand it, you will just strain your brain. In the 1920's things were going very well in the country. So lots of people borrowed small amounts of money and invested it in the Stock Market. A great plan, right? So what happened? The Stock Market crashed. The best laid plans of Mice and Men, right? Go ahead, tell us how we can do better.


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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Eh FD,
They say Democracy, the one we have, is the worst form of Government there is, except for all the others. Don't try to understand it, you will just strain your brain. In the 1920's things were going very well in the country. So lots of people borrowed small amounts of money and invested it in the Stock Market. A great plan, right? So what happened? The Stock Market crashed. The best laid plans of Mice and Men, right? Go ahead, tell us how we can do better.



Well i deleted my previous post cause i didnt want to get all political. What i said was im neither a trump supporter nor a liberal, but how anybody can say the government is running about as well as can be expected....with a government shutdown, i dont quite get.

Ive read your posts talking about dems spending our money, Trump wants to spend our money too.

Is it because a republican is in office, thats all that matters?

Lots of people can do a better job than trump or anyone else weve had, but they will never get a vote

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Humm,
Well FD I wasn't talking about the current situation in Washington I was talking about things that have happened over many years. I guy I used to know used to tell the joke where someone couldn't afford their mortgage. It seems the mortgage and the insurance papers got to rubbing together, started a fire and the house burned down. In Astrology the Planet Uranus represents sudden upsets and breaks up the Status Quo. That is what is happening in France and a few other places. Sudden upsets.

Oh P.S. Trump is exactly what the country needs. Sudden upsets, you know.


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Originally Posted by Ray E. Strode
Humm,

Oh P.S. Trump is exactly what the country needs. Sudden upsets, you know.



No, no idea what u mean actually.

Ok, i didnt realize u werent talking about now. But maybe the thing is, regardless of what the state of the union is, repubs will see it one way, dems the other

If u ever want to laugh, watch CNN and then flip to Fox news, especially after a state of union address, you will say what the hell is the point, nobody agrees on a single thing

I think we need more than two versions of the truth. A guy could kill somebody and with spin, somebody will find him to be completely innocent.

In todays climate, its nearly impossible to get a fact, facts are just filtered through each side

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