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This is complex. I needed to borrow high end headphones from a friend and play this on his professional equipment to appreciate the intricate nuances and syncopated additions. He suggests having this mastered to be enjoyable on phones and retail quality materials. Keep up the creativity.
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I suggest keep up the creativity as Perry mentioned. However, I think a melody is happening in the first layer while out of tune/key piano stabs ain't doin' it for me. Either you're avantgarde or your commercial; difficult to accomplish in one tune. I suggest you stick with melody....
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Hey Irwin,
It's not easy to critique abstract music as the art is designed for a special audience. I like it in general because it is interesting and does have a combination of pleasing melody contrasted with some dischordant chords--I'm going to offer my 2 cents and opinion on their use. I like their effects, and you see this method used in certain classical pieces, but used perhaps more sparsely to emphasize drama. I think they would be more effective if used in that more sparse manner so that they make their statements more of surprise than becoming repetitious and the norm of the music flow--this in turn (JMO) will empower them rather than making them so integral in the music flow and possibly tiring to the ear. Having said this, when delving into abstract or surreal art forms--there are no rigid rules. However, I think to keep one's interest, you need to minimize the spice whether it be a cool bridge within a song or abstract nuances in an modern art music piece. I love your creativity, and you have a real talent--no doubt about it, as there is organization here.
This is really cool, and I'm digging it, so my sugs are more polish, not serious nits or saying it needs changed as you may have a different perspective--just my 1st listen perspective and how "maybe" it could be improved, but this is "way cool!"
steady-eddie
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This is complex. I needed to borrow high end headphones from a friend and play this on his professional equipment to appreciate the intricate nuances and syncopated additions. He suggests having this mastered to be enjoyable on phones and retail quality materials. Keep up the creativity. Thanks Perry, I love creating music I will keep at it.Thanks for listening. Irwin P.S. I have never heard any of my songs from professional equipment (I am now wondering how it sounds)
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I suggest keep up the creativity as Perry mentioned. However, I think a melody is happening in the first layer while out of tune/key piano stabs ain't doin' it for me. Either you're avantgarde or your commercial; difficult to accomplish in one tune. I suggest you stick with melody.... Thank you very much for your comment and suggestion for I take them very seriously and will make changes as I listen back to this song form time to time. Thanks for listening. Irwin
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Yeah, i think without a context...what its being used for its hard to give feedback. It probably could be used in a movie sequence, where there are no lines and the viewer is just watching the screen as it plays. But without seeing that, its hard to know what would fit.
This is the kind of thing that needs a visual
not crazy about all of those dissonant chords, the piano chords may be too much.
But in a film or documentary, they would likely only use a snippet of it.
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Hey Irwin,
It's not easy to critique abstract music as the art is designed for a special audience. I like it in general because it is interesting and does have a combination of pleasing melody contrasted with some dischordant chords--I'm going to offer my 2 cents and opinion on their use. I like their effects, and you see this method used in certain classical pieces, but used perhaps more sparsely to emphasize drama. I think they would be more effective if used in that more sparse manner so that they make their statements more of surprise than becoming repetitious and the norm of the music flow--this in turn (JMO) will empower them rather than making them so integral in the music flow and possibly tiring to the ear. Having said this, when delving into abstract or surreal art forms--there are no rigid rules. However, I think to keep one's interest, you need to minimize the spice whether it be a cool bridge within a song or abstract nuances in an modern art music piece. I love your creativity, and you have a real talent--no doubt about it, as there is organization here.
This is really cool, and I'm digging it, so my sugs are more polish, not serious nits or saying it needs changed as you may have a different perspective--just my 1st listen perspective and how "maybe" it could be improved, but this is "way cool!"
steady-eddie Hi steady-eddie, I will keep your suggestions as I go on to composer other song for I would agree with you on most of the thing that you have made mention of. I have gotten a lot of helpful feedback here and this is just other one that I will always remember. I am hoping to pitch this song to one of the Music Libraries some day. Thank you for the reply I appreciate it so much. Irwin
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Yeah, i think without a context...what its being used for its hard to give feedback. It probably could be used in a movie sequence, where there are no lines and the viewer is just watching the screen as it plays. But without seeing that, its hard to know what would fit.
This is the kind of thing that needs a visual
not crazy about all of those dissonant chords, the piano chords may be too much.
But in a film or documentary, they would likely only use a snippet of it.
Fdemetrio, Thank very much for your comment. About using this song a movie sequence, I'll agree with you. About the piano chords i really over do a times I sure have to watch myself and control that. Irwin
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Yeah, i think without a context...what its being used for its hard to give feedback. It probably could be used in a movie sequence, where there are no lines and the viewer is just watching the screen as it plays. But without seeing that, its hard to know what would fit.
This is the kind of thing that needs a visual
not crazy about all of those dissonant chords, the piano chords may be too much.
But in a film or documentary, they would likely only use a snippet of it.
Fdemetrio, Thank very much for your comment. About using this song a movie sequence, I'll agree with you. About the piano chords i really over do a times I sure have to watch myself and control that. Irwin Irwin, You're the nicest guy I've ever seen on a forum, lol. Let me ask you, how do you write your music? Are you a musician? Are you doing the electronic thing and just using samples? My advice would be to listen to alot of music. Your favorite kind of stuff and listen to how they put together music. Its different than songwriting I know, but you could still learn alot by listening. Id also advise you try to learn an instrument, keyboard would be very useful to you. Keep plugging away!
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