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#1145339 - 10/12/18 05:16 PM Music Modernization Act  
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Okay, it was passed. Now what does it actually mean in layman terms. Does that mean I'll be receiving a higher rate for streaming music? Does it affect TV royalties? Or is this just an add-on for the top artists? I see ASCAP is hailing it with a big hooray. So, it must be a good thing, right?

Confused as always, John smile

#1145343 - 10/12/18 07:46 PM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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Well John
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#1145362 - 10/13/18 09:31 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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I got my notice from ASCAP yesterday. You can bet the "fine print" will not make a songwriter's heart beat faster. Only those with money in the music biz are going to make money from this ill-gotten Ponzi scheme. I forgot to mention the politicians who are also "on the take." Six months ago, ASCAP was on the opposite side of the fence. Suddenly, they hired a new CEO and she flipped poor old dumb-assed Paul Williams in a New York minute.

May they all rot in Hell!

#1145363 - 10/13/18 10:21 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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I think you may be on to something Dave.

John smile

#1145381 - 10/15/18 01:40 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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Truth is they basically represent those with money David, and all the rest of

us carry on struggling, Streaming is basically a waste of time for the writers

of the songs who are not performers, I have taken songs off of You Tube

if more did the same it could help the struggling writers

You Tube is okay if you want to use it for publicity, providing you have something

that stirs the public's interest in going to see the act perform live , there is so much rubbish

on there its made it harder for any talented newcomers to compete.


One of the most important principles of songwriting is to remember that a good song is a partnership of many different components, all working together to produce a satisfying musical experience.

In that respect, song components are either enhancing or compromising their combined effects.
#1145390 - 10/15/18 08:49 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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Whazzat!
You mean I am not going to get rich now ! Uh, well, I did get an E-Mail from our favorite scammer today bragging about all their sucesses and inviting me to send some songs or just words if that's all I had. Last time they wanted to put one of my songs on a Comp Album headed for nowhere at $500.00 a Pop. I guess there is more than one way to make money in the Music Business Eh?


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#1145392 - 10/15/18 09:33 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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I suspect the best way to make money from music today for those of us without major label backing... is to gather up all our notebooks of lyrics and melodies, collect our CD's and self-sponsored albums and then sell them to the nearest power plant for fuel. LOL!

Someday I'll take the time to get out my microscope and begin to read all the fine print in the "Music Modernization Act." The fact that the fine print is there is evidence enough for me to surmise that some highly paid legal team from Booz-Allen and Hamilton (they know a great deal about music) has covered all the bases and "arses" of the culprits involved.

Okay, John and Ray... move over, my turn at the Hog Trough for my daily ration of slop. What a world!

#1145399 - 10/15/18 09:52 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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Hi Cheyenne:

No arguments from me. I've never used You Tube for anything except watching videos of topics that interest me. Putting my music on You Tube (old and ugly will not "play well" in Sheboygan) would cause people to head for the exits. Being a Dinosaur of sorts, I grew up in the era of Radio (with commercials) and that is how I got my "music fix." I could not afford to buy records on the meager "wages" earned from my newspaper route. By the time I was a Freshman at the University, the 45 record had come onto the scene and was more suitable to my limited budget.

Most folks don't understand a songwriter who has no aspirations of "stardom." I only want talented singers to "cover" my work. The "trick" is to get anyone in "The Biz" to listen to a home-baked MP3 or WAV file. I gave up mailing CD's a long time ago. I've even had a dozen demos created and the result (getting qualified listeners with the power to move it forward) was essentially the same. No joy in Mudville!

One of the surprising benefits of having written and recorded so many songs... I took an old "burner phone" and converted it to an MP3 Player by putting it into "airplane" mode. Now, when I have trouble falling asleep at night, I can listen to my entire catalogue... and sing myself to sleep. I can listen for hours and never hear the same song twice.

Other than that, song-writing has been fun. When it stops being entertaining to me, I'll find something more productive to do with my time. Who knows, maybe I'll invent the perpetual motion machine? LOL!

All the best,

----Dave

#1145407 - 10/15/18 10:57 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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One opinion...

Gordon Daniel said...

I've read the law word for word. The problem with the MMA is very obvious. It doesn't solve any of the old problems with compulsory licenses, it just creates new ones. To deny anyone the right to sue someone for damages is not American to start with. Further, to think that a panel will decide what is a fair market value is absurd. The powers that be will obviously stack the deck against song writers and small independent record labels in favor of the large music streaming services. Further, the songwriter has no option of saying, "No, I will not accept the rate set by the judges." Therefore, obviously there will be no "fair market value" since that is how fair market value is set.

John smile

#1145435 - 10/15/18 10:19 PM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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I still have not read the damn thing. If it quacks like a duck... has tons of fine print... and has every pseudo-music-politician begging songwriters to sign a petition without presenting any facts... not even a ten point summary... it is obviously wrong!

They've completely ignored all the agreements signed with other nations... so now, they are starting a campaign to "clean up that minor little detail." Folks, our nation is in deep moral trouble. The "Swamp" has begun leaking into NYC, Nashville and LA. West Mayberry is "safe" for the present... but I'm looking over my shoulder a great deal, lately... and whistling when I pass a Graveyard at night. Hail to the MMA... or should I have said, "To Hell with the MMA?"

#1145436 - 10/15/18 10:44 PM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: Dave Rice]  
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Originally Posted by Dave Rice
I got my notice from ASCAP yesterday. You can bet the "fine print" will not make a songwriter's heart beat faster. Only those with money in the music biz are going to make money from this ill-gotten Ponzi scheme. I forgot to mention the politicians who are also "on the take." Six months ago, ASCAP was on the opposite side of the fence. Suddenly, they hired a new CEO and she flipped poor old dumb-assed Paul Williams in a New York minute.

May they all rot in Hell!



I know Paul... (he's a close friend of my close friend). Sadly at the level in which they operate, mere mortals rarely factor in just like the rest of politics and BOTH parties. Just Plain Folks don't have a chance in that crowd. I would try to talk to him if I thought for a second it would do any good. But even if he wanted to help us, those with ACTUAL power aren't interested. There's the "illusion" of power and power. Then there's us. Fact.


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#1145444 - 10/16/18 09:00 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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...further confirming my suspicion that the "Music Biz" is beyond repair. Why not scrap everything and start over? But then, I suppose it does not matter... mankind will always prove they are mere mortals and stoop to the lowest level for their own gain.

At least, for the present, citizens here are still allowed to vote. Some seem to vote more than once since many judges have "ruled" that ID is not required.

Sorry for my negativity. I'm usually an optimistic sort.

#1145446 - 10/16/18 09:19 AM Re: Music Modernization Act [Re: John Lawrence Schick]  
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