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#1144436 - 09/04/18 04:36 AM Too Good To Be Forgot  
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I had a great childhood. We were very poor , but my mother still managed to raise three boys on her own. My best friends were two brothers, Robert Daub and David Daub. It only took me fifty years to write it, but this song is for my buddies and those times we shared.

http://frettie.com/track_detail/2017

#1144437 - 09/04/18 08:46 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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You know how to "stir old memories" my friend:

Fireflies in a Mason Jar... Hand Cranked Vanilla Ice Cream... Kick the Can... and all those simple things we found to entertain ourselves. The beauty of it all... being face to face with real kids. No cell phones... and only party-line telephones kids were never encouraged to even touch. LOL!

Knowing that we come from similar backgrounds in a region that seems to produce songwriters and singers of all stripes... this song is special. I enjoyed every line. Don't fret about waiting fifty years to write it. At least you got-R-done! ...and quite well, I might add. I'm certain the Daub brothers (if they are still earthbound) will enjoy it as much as I did.

Thanks for sharing, Marvin.

All the best, ----Dave

#1144438 - 09/04/18 09:00 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Yes,
Sometimes those memories from childhood will come back and work it's way into a song. I wrote a song entitled HERE IN THE COUNTRY SOME TIME BACK. It is about scenes from my early life. I can't believe it has been 20 years since I wrote it! You can listen to it on the Web Site under Rays Music at http://www.geocities.ws/fiverosesmusicgroup/.


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#1144474 - 09/06/18 05:16 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Thanks Dave and Ray! I appreciate your thoughts!

Best,
Marvin

#1144498 - 09/07/18 01:32 PM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Hey Marvin,
this song is really cool. I love those vocal harmonies. Very catchy. Great production work. This is country music at its best!

All the best
Robert


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#1144504 - 09/07/18 04:17 PM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Nice song. You have a good hook. I would try to find a way to use it more in the chorus.
Have fun,
Bob

#1144509 - 09/07/18 09:14 PM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Hey Marvin,

Great tune mate. A very "likeable" singable song. Gottta love those harmonies, nice job.

cheers, niteshift

#1144553 - 09/10/18 05:06 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Thanks Robert, Niteshift and Bob for listening and commenting. Yeah I love those Eagles sounding harmonies as well. Thanks again!

Marvin

#1144555 - 09/10/18 05:53 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Great song Marvin like the tempo as well

If you have the backing track , try another singer this ones

voice does not sell the song, The vocal needs to be more

mellow and laid back , to suit the emotion

Great Song

And the mere fact that you probably improved over the years like most

of us do, can often produce a quality song like this one

I Know a guy looking for this type of song , for a VINYL Album release



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One of the most important principles of songwriting is to remember that a good song is a partnership of many different components, all working together to produce a satisfying musical experience.

In that respect, song components are either enhancing or compromising their combined effects.
#1144556 - 09/10/18 07:22 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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As niteshift said..."A very likable song."

Ditto.

Martin

#1144576 - 09/10/18 06:23 PM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Very nice.

I agree with Cheyenne. The singer does a professional job, but a less generic voice would make a difference and give the song a personality. Not sure how much that matters, if it's a demo.

I am the last person who should weigh in on the art and science of pitching a song, but something occurs to me. I enjoyed it, so did Dave, Ray, Rob, Bob, Niteshift and Martin. I don't know the ages of all of these folks, but I'd bet they're all above the target demographic for most contemporary artists. Does nostalgia sell records (or downloads and streams), given the average age of those who actually pay for music, and would this fact affect the attractiveness of songs like this to those who view music as a business?

That's not in any way a criticism of the song or the recording, just something I wondered about as I listened.

#1144582 - 09/11/18 04:03 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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I was talking to a bunch of Publishers Recently

They all agreed that the job of matching a vocalist

to the song in question can have a very big influence

on whether the song even gets listened to right through:


Most are just looking for a reason to eject the song ;


Where as in this instance, the writer here is known by most of us

for the Above Average Quality of his songs, That is not so when your

songs are played to a bunch of strangers who , have been listening to

(in some instances ) the biggest pile of rubbish of the month)



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#1144588 - 09/11/18 04:51 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Thanks for listening and commenting Cheyenne, Martin and Gavin. Cheyenne and Martin you both make some very good points, and Cheyenne if you know an artist who might like to cut this song just have them get in touch. Thanks again to all of you!

Best always,
Marvin

#1144592 - 09/11/18 06:54 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Hi Everybody:

Can you actually believe what Gavin just said about most of us? A Geezer calling other Geezers, "Geezers!" LOL!

Cheyenne understands Music Marketing 312 (it changes daily) but there was a time when a Publisher would acquire the rights to the song, hire whomever he pleased to make the demo sound precisely the way he (or she) wanted and do all the pitching through networks acquired by years of experience. Not today! The market is derived from young Apple Bait whose listening habits are derived from Algorithms. (Sadly!) The poor Songwriter is expected to lift that barge and tote that bale!

What most of you don't know... Marvin has a man on the inside!

As Ray implies often... "Keep Writing, Gang! Your next HIT is just around the corner!"

All my best, ----Dave

#1144593 - 09/11/18 07:04 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Awww....thanks Dave! Perhaps Gavin is right, we are just old geezers, but I will always believe that good music is written for and from the heart. Keep on writing geezers!

Best,
Marvin

#1144594 - 09/11/18 07:17 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Originally Posted by Marvin Adcock
Awww....thanks Dave! Perhaps Gavin is right, we are just old geezers, but I will always believe that good music is written for and from the heart. Keep on writing geezers!

Best,
Marvin


Amen to that, Marvin! You can tell when something comes from the heart. A question I often ask myself when listening to songs here and at another forum I belong to is, "Why did he/she write this?." And leading on from that, "What does he/she want us to feel?" It could be joy, sadness, nostalgia, laughter, the urge to dance or to get up and change the world. It doesn't always have to be profound, but there has to be a purpose. If I can't answer those questions, I'm probably not going to be wild about the song, even if it's got the smoothest production. I can think of a few songs I've listened to here that are really well executed, but I still have no idea why they were written.

#1144595 - 09/11/18 09:28 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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I would say this song is very good and needs to be recorded and released. I have been listening to music since the early 50's. Good luck with it.


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#1144731 - 09/16/18 06:16 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Thanks Ray! I still hope that it gets recorded someday, but if not I'm still glad that I wrote it.

Marvin

#1144797 - 09/18/18 07:22 PM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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A little bit of nostalgic country that gave me an Eagles vibe, maybe the harmonies? Regardless, well done, Marvin.

Ricki

#1144805 - 09/19/18 04:58 AM Re: Too Good To Be Forgot [Re: Marvin Adcock]  
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Thanks for listening Ricki. I appreciate it!

Marvin


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